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I-Team: Objection to new PT standard for future cops 

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By Randy Travis
Published January 27
FORSYTH, Ga. - This month, the state of Georgia began requiring all recruits pass a basic physical fitness test before entering the police academy.
The idea makes sense to a lot of people. But to one politically powerful law enforcement group in Georgia, it’s too much, too soon.
When a police department or sheriff’s office hires someone, they first have to go through training at one of the police academies around the state of Georgia, operated by the Georgia Public Safety Training Center or GPSTC.
But two years ago a pair of recruits died during academy training itself, including a Forsyth County deputy who suffered a heart attack on the first day.
Why some object to this new PT standard for future Georgia cops
"At that particular time, it became apparent," explained executive director Mike Ayers of the Peace Officer Standards and Training Council or POST. "We’ve got to do a little bit better, take a little more care screening who we’re allowing in."
Georgia instructors copied the physical agility course design with permission from their opposites in South Carolina. It involves a series of loops, jump, and hurdles plus the ability to drag a 175-pound dummy.
POST copied a physical training course design from South Carolina’s police academy.
The course involves a series of loops, jumps, and hurdles that must be completed within 2 minutes and 6 seconds. The standard is the same no matter the recruit’s age or sex.
"I don’t work out regularly, but I was in fact able to beat it," explained Ayers, 57. "I can tell you I didn’t want to jump back in line and run it right away again."
Before making it mandatory, last year GPSTC tested the new PT course on all cadets, with no punishment if they failed. The findings would wind up giving them new insight for future performance.
Of all the police recruits who would go on to fail other parts of the 11-week program - recruits who would muster out anyway - 74 percent had also failed the new PT entrance test. Turns out failing to finish in 2 minutes 6 seconds means you’re also not ready for the rest of course.
Last year all cadets attempted the new physical agility entrance exam, even though it wasn't yet mandatory. Of all the students who wound up failing other parts of the 11-week program, 73% had also failed the physical agility test.
The physical agility test became mandatory with their first class of 2021.
"No one quit the first week," said GPSTC executive director Chris Wigginton. "At the Academy, by this time we normally have several quit throughout the first day and week for a variety of reasons."
But just days after the new rule took effect, POST received a letter from the Georgia Sheriffs’ Association, asking that the new Physical Agility Test "be rescinded."
"I’m hearing a lot of people throughout the state are not able to get into the Academy due to the requirements at this time," explained Lumpkin County Sheriff Stacy Jarrard, past president of the association.
"We agree with the intent of the rules," he said. "We’re just asking for POST to be mindful of the sheriffs not being able to get a candidate at this time due to the way the nation looks at law enforcement. We just don’t have a lot of candidates."
Jerrard says he’s not worried about his office, but the smaller ones around the state.
Lumpkin County Sheriff Stacy Jarrard is the past president of the Georgia Sheriffs' Association.
He and other critics want POST to give recruits the entire 11 weeks to pass the PT test. A decision is expected at the next POST meeting in March.
But that idea seems to be getting a hard no.
"I think that would be fiscally irresponsible for me as a state agency when I told you that 74% of those individuals ended failing at a later point anyway," Wigginton said. "I think you’re just getting a better quality candidate with all these requirements."
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The Sheriff’s Association also objects to a new requirement every cadet pass a psychological test before starting basic training. They say paying for a psychologist is too expensive for small departments. POST says there are online assessment tools that they will accept that are far cheaper than paying a medical professional to administer the test in person.
As for the PT test, if a recruit does fail, they can come back in 30 days before the next class to try again. Of all the recruits who ran the course for this year’s first class, 4% failed.
Assuming that 4% still want a career in law enforcement, the first step is clear: get in shape and beat 2:06.

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Комментарии : 38   
@WanderingRationalist
@WanderingRationalist 3 года назад
All cops should be physically fit. Being a cop is stressful enough. You don’t want to burden your body more by being unhealthy.
@taylorsfishingchannel7259
@taylorsfishingchannel7259 2 года назад
This is not a hard course. I ran it to get in, I was one of the first sessions to have to run it to be allowed in. I passed with a 1:36 and not in the best shape I could be. I’m now in my 10th week of basic mandate and finish next week. If you are determined enough you can do it.
@PremiumFuelOnly
@PremiumFuelOnly 2 года назад
Most agencies have a physical entrance test thats harder than this. I think this is fair.
@brendawinters7064
@brendawinters7064 2 года назад
my son made it through the police academy the first time through and he turned 53 yrs old a week before graduation. He started a strenuous PT schedule months before he entered the academy so he was physically prepared. thats the way you do it!
@aminrucker6064
@aminrucker6064 2 года назад
Care to share?
@jasonstreamcast
@jasonstreamcast Год назад
@@aminrucker6064 Recommend running a 1 mile or 1 1/2 mile every day to build your cardio. Push ups to build your chest and arms. Sit ups for your core and of course doing squats to build up your leg muscles to help you run a bit longer.
@demos9836
@demos9836 3 года назад
Be in shape. Stop hiring people who are over weight, and or obese. If you can't take care of your self, then what good are? Sitting in a squad car eating donuts, and coffee.
@dodieodie498
@dodieodie498 2 года назад
If the big problem is that they can't find officers, maybe they could waive this for certain recruits who can be hired specifically for desk positions or for dispatch. I'm not sure how the employees are designated or how it's structured. Maybe hires could be acquired for positions that have minimal physical requirements, with the understanding that the individuals will enter into physical training and must pass the course before they enter in as full fledged arresting officers. I have to wonder.... are the police required to have physicals and pass these courses periodically and throughout their careers? I've seen some cops who I'm sure couldn't run that course, and even some who break out in a sweat walking from the patrol car to a driver's side window. Some who have guts that would rival Santa, and that look like their bellies would impede access to their sidearms. Some of them have been in law enforcement for years, but most I've known are small town officers.
@noahpatterson5667
@noahpatterson5667 2 месяца назад
If you take a first glance at the four south county cobb that just got hired he doesn't look healthy and then they wonder why they have heart attacks
@stephencarmichael5156
@stephencarmichael5156 2 года назад
At the same time many departments have a no foot chase policy in place. If they have policy that says don't foot chase than running around to 2min is not in line with what they are doing. 90% of the time they will spend sitting in a patrol car getting fat.
@dannypadron8277
@dannypadron8277 2 года назад
Im in law Enforcement…never lower the standards if you’re in this profession you owe it to the citizens to be in excellent shape. If you can’t live up to that, you’re just a liability at that point, work somewhere else
@humongousdingus7382
@humongousdingus7382 3 года назад
GREAT, KEEP DUMBING DOWN THE REQUIREMENTS & SEE WHO YOU GET!!!!!!!
@chapowiththesticks
@chapowiththesticks 2 года назад
They should take the marine corps CFT test its simple and quick pace. (Combat fitness test)
@lynnleigha580
@lynnleigha580 2 года назад
Are they not stretching first?
@arnoldsherrill6305
@arnoldsherrill6305 3 года назад
I don't understand that the military will post standards that they expect new recruits to pass prior to the start of basic training ., but we have law enforcement agencies that are reluctant to use a test that takes 2 minutes to assess whether or not candidates can pass a PFA? Prior to joining the academy classes OMG all of our service academies do this the first day. And you are told well in advance before the day you are scheduled for report what kind of physical shape you should be in and are actually giving advice in terms of what physical exercises to do to meet that standard. And we have law enforcement agencies who want a exemption from that type of testing. To be honest.... you should report to the academy in your best physical shape, not use the academy to get in shape
@hoodout16
@hoodout16 Год назад
The difference is, the military isn’t hurting for applicants.
@dogtop19
@dogtop19 9 месяцев назад
you also have all the way to the end to pass in boot camp. the first one you take is to see were you are at so you can work on it and pass the last one that counts.
@jpodell007
@jpodell007 Год назад
A gender neutral physical fitness test that was used by the Pennsylvania State Police to screen applicants for the Trooper position was the subject of a lawsuit for disparate impact sex discrimination filed by the Obama DOJ and the case was ultimately settled with the agency scrapping said standard. The case was called United States v. Pennsylvania and it was filed in the US District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania.
@Murph_gaming
@Murph_gaming 9 месяцев назад
I know Gwinnett used to require you to do so many pushups within a certain time, situps within a certain time and then you had to run a mile and a half. Seems that's all changed now with this new obstacle course.
@RobertJohnson-jk7xr
@RobertJohnson-jk7xr 2 года назад
What’s the issue, I took it after recovering from Covid literally 2 days after damn near died but I passed. It’s a good thing to have in place
@johnpenley
@johnpenley 3 года назад
Lowering the bar is always the answer.😑
@LEOGOATED
@LEOGOATED 2 года назад
One of the easiest fit test for LEOs around the country.
@dragonslayerornstein1242
@dragonslayerornstein1242 2 года назад
That is why you strive to get the MAXIMUM score, not the minimum.
@lynnleigha580
@lynnleigha580 2 года назад
They need to make EVERY officer do this, at least once a year, once hired they all get fat
@jpodell007
@jpodell007 Год назад
Illinois State Police and Texas Department of Public Safety have annual fitness testing for their sworn members if I remember correctly. Additionally, all officers and enlisted personnel who are military police have to pass physical fitness testing for their respective military branches.
@peanutcolada621
@peanutcolada621 Год назад
Wow..... They should take the Fair fax county agility test.. They would not last....
@jefftobe1097
@jefftobe1097 3 года назад
WHAT USE S A FAT LAZY COP? THERE IS NONE. THE TEST IS A GREAT IDEA!!!
@fin1964
@fin1964 7 месяцев назад
This is a disgrace. The police force is responsible for ensuring public safety, both in terms of protection and physical security. If they are unable to perform their duties, then they are unsuitable for their job. This poses a risk not only to the public but also to their fellow officers. It is imperative to establish a standard that all officers must adhere to.
@burningokane6320
@burningokane6320 2 года назад
They want to cancel a pt test to be a police officer? Is this real? Bruh
@noahpatterson5667
@noahpatterson5667 2 месяца назад
I grew up in gwinnett can i be a cop?
@muckfoot-4093
@muckfoot-4093 3 года назад
eat 30 long johns in 5 minutes
@dennishines9996
@dennishines9996 2 года назад
policing is a physical job if you can't do this find another job
@joezimmaro3630
@joezimmaro3630 Год назад
More then 50% of em are out of shape I’ve seen more beer belly’s then I’ve seen fit in shape looking cops year after year it’s because once your in your in and you don’t have to stay in shape smh
@RikodiusRex
@RikodiusRex Год назад
Let me tell you about Alpharetta. Only *one* girl passed recruit PT in the hiring test. I came in second place. You have to pass all the events. I was slower than the required time for the mile and a half but passed pushups pull ups and sprints. There were a LOT of women there. Oh, they made you run these runs on gravel. Nobody trains on gravel. I certainly didn't. I trained on asphalt or treadmills. The whole thing is designed to root out women. They don't want to hire them and I have never seen a cop need to run a 1.5 mile endurance run to catch a bad guy. The whole thing is dumb. If you can sprint you should be able to be fine. If you can complete the event you should be fine. The difference between the way a sprinters muscles work vs a endurance runner are way different. The whole thing is ridiculous that I got second place out of the females and that wasn't even good enough? Only ONE WOMAN was still a candidate and they said I could come back in 6 months. I have a dance background and worked out as my job. It was extremely depressing to train for months to have them waste my time.
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