Input Based Matchmaking or Disable Aim Assist in Ranked. I was hoping the devs would push for gyro controllers and had a good opportunity to do so, but they like all the other devs seem to be no different and chose artificial aim over raw input.
I don't know how many videos I've had to say this on but the aim assist isn't the problem at all in this game, its the snap assist that happens when you ADS. Even your clips have you doing a quick ADS to lock on. It needs to be gone. Play a few games with the 1887 on controller and you'll see what I mean. The AA is a little strong but its a fair compromise for crossplay as long as the snap assist is gone. Honestly we just need MS to get their heads out of their asses and give us gyro controls so we can have that as a standard.
IMO controller and Mouse/KB players do not belong in the same lobby. Aimbot (aka aim assist) does not belong in a kb/m lobby. Everyone should have aim assist or noone should. They should make the crossplay toggle be based on Controller vs KB/M so if you are on PC with kb/m and turn off crossplay you also should not meet players on PC with a controller. COD WZ is broken the same way because of this where top players move from kb/m to controller to stand a chance. problem is that if you are very good at the game, you'll get even better if you get used to the controller with aim assist, and if you are bad at aiming with kb/m and controller - then aim assist will make you decent+ - so it's basically a cheat making you better than you otherwise would be at tracking targets - regardless of controller method.
Coming from doing both and mastering both I can you tell you right now you take away aim assist from controller players they will be absolutely useless. And it wouldn't even be fair. Mnk on the finals is much more optimized than controller. I do mnk but I can tell you right now the aim assist it no where near compared to games like apex or cod.
Skill floor is higher, ceiling lower, I thought this was the consensus? Any pc player with good aim will do better, escipecially at range, and will be able to respond faster to somoene behind. they should remove aim assist workin on stealth, also if somoene is rly close to you - like literrally touching you - can get wonky
very interessting video, would have been really cool if you included 1 or 2 rounds where you played on controller with AA turned off to really show the difference.
to top it all off you also have allegations against "70-80% of the top 500 ranked players" for using rewasd, a program which injects scripts into the game to allow mnk players to have aim assist and zero recoil 😁
Yeah I don't know about all that stuff, honestly it doesn't matter because the leaderboard isn't a competitive leaderboard at the moment, would be nice to see winrate in there too along with the stats, more of a respectable measure of skill in my opinion. (obviously I don't support that software but I'm talking about the leaderboard itself)
rewasd dosent inject scripts lol. its an interception and remapping. while its used by these guys to be scummy and abuse aim assist, it doesnt touch any of the games memory and its def not injecting anything lmao
Appreciate you, yeah I wanted to give a genuine view for everyone to show them that I actually spent time rather than just sat in my chair and gave an opinion ahah.
When you move back and forth the no recoil is basically built into the game. The thing most controller players are doing to achieve no recoil is to either have a controller with a small amount of stick drift or if they are using DS4 to run a Playstation controller on PC they enable whats called negative deadzone to artificially give them a slight amount of stick drift for no recoil. This is just straight up built into the game. You can then take it further with no recoil scripts as mentioned in other vids but its 90% already in the game just from movement. My biggest issue is when you give a huge portion of the playerbase this level of aim it makes every game feel extremely sweaty. You have to be absolutely sure you're not being watched whenever you peak, leave cover, or traverse which means you have to play very paranoid and stressed out. Even if you only talk about controller v controller gameplay this level of aim on nearly everyone is bad for the pacing of matches and bad for the weapon balance.
Thanks, that's what I was kinda trying to say about the "aiming with your feet" lol. Yeah the stick drift stuff was crazy, I heard that you could even activate it on Steam, I don't know I'd have to test it myself too, but you could probably even just get the stick drift stuff at a hardware level which Embark couldn't even detect anyways. Yeah I'm feeling a shift towards that already in my matches, I weirdly enough prefer solo queue right now, not sure why but either way when I'm queued as a duo or three, the lobbies lately have been pretty wild aim-wise. I'm finding that I have to be in cover way more and "think" smarter compared to the beta's I played.
Wow, thank you for explaining this. My group had the misfortune of queueing against that streamer shown at 0:34, and my immediate reaction when he killed me was "This dude is aimbotting.". We then looked up his stream and realized he was using a PS4 controller, however I noticed at one point when he was afk reading chat, that he was sliding along the ground extremely slowly. I thought this seemed strange and it seems you had my answer. Intentional simulated stick drift to make aim assist stronger. What a joke.
I like crossplay, but overtuned aim assist is lame from a competitive standpoint. An input based rank while still having crossplay would be interesting. My ego cares mostly about people on my input beating me.
Yeah I do think crossplay as a whole is a positive thing, I remember when I was younger, being able to play with my friends on Fortnite whilst they were on console (or even phone lol) was such a great tech progression. However, exactly from a ranked standpoint or competitive scene, I would like to see what Embark do decide with it, once they give the greenlight to heading towards a "competitive" future.
The main issue is not casual players but high level players with it and THE DB SHOTTY (screw that thing!), in a casual players hands they can be good, in a good/great players hands the advantage vs a good/great keyboard player is astronomical and hence why i think it needs to be addressed
@@elimgarak1127 I just seen this comment since I hadn't been on in a bit and the fact that I get a comment from Garak made my nostalgia peak hahaha I'm a huge Trekkie and he's my fav from DS9 I watch from tng to voyager at least once a year
The entire problem with AA is consistency. It is always the same. When you slack, the controller can generally help you out. There is zero down time on KBM. Every mistake is yours and you have nothing to "help" you track things the vast majority of MNK players struggle with. 0ms response time software improving your aim can't be balanced against raw input. It needs to go or they need to separate.
Yeah someone said to me that KBM players kinda have to practise their aim repeatedly but more importantly “stick at it” because it starts to fade away or something, whereas you said aim assist repeats that motion. I kinda see what they’re talking about I guess but “consistency” is a good point. Thanks for watching!
@@THiiXY Consistency through the day is more important. A controller guy can pull 12 hours and play near identically. The MNK player cannot. There's no handicap or backstop for the wrong input. AA literally doesn't need to be statistically better in any way to be unfair. You will never know when fatigue sets in with controller players and they'll win fights they very well might have not had any business winning. The only solution is to make it objectively worse than raw input, or leave them to play amongst themselves and lock the queue to one input. It's physically impossible to balance the two. Because they're not even close to the same hardware and only one has software.
i hate AA more than the avg player, but we would all honestly.... probably... be fine against the average console player. its PC players that switch to controller FOR the aim assist, specifically to rank up, that will inevitably plague gold and up. i couldnt play knowing the game was doing this for me. but alot of people really want that rank, and will put more time in to achieve max sweat than the bog standard console player.
Hmm yeah I heard about that and saw some videos, I think for me it would be really annoying and off-putting but for someone that doesn't have that much aiming experience, that would be WILD. I hope they have a solution soon...
I usually say while the aim assist on apex is strong it wont make or break you as a player but in The Finals theres a lot more moments where im like hmm that was pretty strong or felt like i snapped onto somebody
Hey man did you try it on console too? I’ve found it to be stronger on pc. On console there are latency issues with the Controller and the AA seems weak compared to other fps franchises.
Really? Damn that's actually interesting, I mean honestly I was mostly in lobbies with other PC players but it's of course a good point, I'll ask around to see if I can get a console for some extra testing, thanks!
Yeah that's another method too that I heard, although I feel like they can patch it quite easily right? Maybe I'm wrong and it's something of a concern, but I didn't want to install that software to give more of a "basic" take on it. If I get some official permission, I'll do another vid to test it out.
@@THiiXY all top players are using it and are in that discord which provides these things if u want to investigate it i found this out recently and heard about this & i belive it
I think even if they adjusted AA, if they made this game e-sports-ready a majority of competitive light players will be controller players since they will be mostly fighting close-quarters with spray weapons or shotguns. There does need to be some kind of adjustment to the snap-on aim assist though, coming from a controller player, having the game turn 180 to track a target for you is insane. The "normal" rotational AA isn't anything special tbh, it's about the same as other games and not as strong as COD imo. But the snap-on AA is OP especially in close range.
Once again your typical mnk player complaining about the top 10% of controller players lol. This is why controller players can never have a chance to go competitive mnk players always complaining about aim assist then show clips of good controller aimers lol. Just so the mnk community can call controller players trash huh. Every fps game is ruled by mnk players yall aim like that regularly. Just play the game and stop getting dif.😂
He was deleting people after 4 days of picking up a controller once he'd tweaked some settings. This is in no way, shape or form representative of the top 10% of the controller demographic. If someone can play like this after 4 days of picking up a controller - the top 10% of players who've used that input for years and have built good aim and game sense are going to know how to manipulate the aim assist software far more effectively. That's precisely the reason input based matchmaking needs to be an option and not forced. On console, everyone on controller is on an even playing field - you all have aim assist and the more experienced players in theory should outshine the more casual players. You can also disable crossplay and only play against other controller players. PC can't do that, as we'll be matched against other Steam users who can still plug their controller in. Someone on MnK simply cannot replicate what aim assist software does for a controller user. Feels pretty unfair to practice aiming consistently and work on mechanics in multiple games to have someone plug a controller in and be gifted inhuman snap on and tracking ability with a few days adjustment period and some setting tweaks. P.S - you mentioned that controller players never get a chance to go competitive? All you have to do is look at the Apex Legends pro scene as a case study. Most of the top players switched from MnK to controller because of aim assist and last time I checked, most teams have a minimum of two players on controller who act as the main fraggers. MnK is very much the minority in that game. Call of Duty is another example of a controller dominated e-sport. To put it simply, on the bad days AA can bridge the gaps. On the good days, AA simply enhances what you're capable of. On MnK - you're 100% responsible for every movement, misclick, overaiming, underaiming etc. No software to give you a helping hand when your shot is off by a few pixels. The two inputs both have their unique advantages, but surely at this point we need to recognise that they're never going to harmoniously co-exist and forcing the issue just causes frustration on both sides.
lol it’s funny because I was wondering if someone would be smart enough to bring that up. I agree with everything your saying but just how pc players avoid controller players, controllers players dose the same. My point was that pc play aim like that daily basis. I have played on controller for years and switched to pc because of the amount of freedom they have with aiming and movement. Playing in those lobbies are lame because all they do is play far and beam you, controller players are opposite. If you look up videos of controller players switching to mnk you will see the same results he’s is getting now they will have good aim and bad movement. It’s extremely easy to aim on mnk but no one talks bout that. also I pretty sure he was using some recoil exploit cause he didn’t have no recoil on his smg? Idk bro
@@isaiahagboola3348 Yeah, I agree that getting a basic level of competency with a mouse and keyboard is relatively intuitive - I'd also argue that it takes hours of practice to hone and refine your mechanical skills to truly competitive levels from there. I feel that controller definitely has an upper ceiling that takes time to achieve - but it's far more accessible for average players to compete with less time committed. Maybe I play too aggressively, I've never been one to sit back and play poke strategies. Either way, I feel like in these kinda games - sooner or later you're going to have to take close range fights to win games and that's where a rolla excels. The recoil exploit you mentioned is a mechanic called 'recoil smoothing' (apart from the first clip - think the guy got outed as a cheater based on some of the other comments on here). Apex has it too and it works identically in the Finals - if you counter strafe while you're tracking someone, most of the recoil is mitigated. There's a few videos floating around that'll explain the technique in detail if you haven't heard of it. That's why people can land relatively clean shots at range. Like you said before - all about using that movement as an advantage. I'm sure Noted put out a video that demonstrates how to do it - give it a watch, pretty game changing tbh. There's loads of other recoil smoothing content on RU-vid from Apex though - works in pretty much the same way if you want to check out a couple of videos brother.
@@motherdean7924 honestly I’m glad you guys shared your your honest opinions with out hate or being bias that all I want instead of everyone discriminating and calling people trash because they use one over the other. lol
Call of Duty is horrible as well. That aim assist if a build in aimbot. The whole crossplay is bad idea. Why not just play a lot and get skilled and become super good. So pitty every game come out people need a aimassist or help. shit generation gaming. Make better anit cheats software or no crosplay. I turn off crossplay and games are very different. When i played UT99 back in the day, people just good because we play a lot. There was aimbot but you see super good, and devs made anti cheat software so good. Almost never see it. Now its just turn on aimassist, go youtube, "pro player". Go to a lan tournament with clean windows and only The Finals. Half players will be shit. Same with Apex and COD. Just breaks a lot games. Great video mate, feel just dissaponted it has aimassist. I have crossplay off and just enjoy the game, it very fun.
wrong thumbnail, since it's actually M&K with aim assist that ruining the game. the aim assist with controller itself isn't the problem, controller+Cronus is another story but let's keep it relevant : it's M&K + REWASD + AHK script that's ruining the game.
Aim assist on a controller is fine. It's salty mouse and keyboard players that are exploiting it for pc use that are ruining it. A good PC player will outmatch a good controller player almost every time. There's no excuse for adding aim assist to the precise movement of a mouse. If people think aim assist for controller is that good, play on controller instead.
Aim assist reverses reality, makes an objectively worst input method better than the objectively better option. Its ruining fair play because you are not aiming yourself. Do you play fps with a driving wheel or a DPad? Why not?
Why does everyone moan about aim assist. When pc players can rebind every button. Use equipment without having to use the dumb wheel. Everyone knows M&K is better to aim and play with but you still find a way to moan about the on thing controller players get
They just completely fucked up this time. They killed the shotguns and the revolver. How can an automatic gun have “zoom snapping” and a semi automatic gun simply just dont have it?! Naaah they fucked up with the zoom snapping OFF for only SOME guns. Take it out of the game already then
Cross play is just dog, people hack on console but not nearly as much as pc players. Pc players are always complaining about this and that mean while you see them hopping about doing all these crazy movements techniques just straight dotting people. Get real
id be really interested if somehow someone can compare- a skilled mnk player uses controller for several games- and a skilled controller player uses mnk for several games- measure their accuracy %'s, kd/r, etc then have them switch back to their native inputs and measure again. If the controller player on mnk gets significantly worse, and the mnk player on controller gets significantly better it would be a clear cut case that controller is far too easy to succeed with. i feel like this day and age of comp fps, as an mnk player requires so much aim training and dedication- yet I have never met a controller player who practices (aimtraining) whatsoever. Now I know they exist, especially real pros with money to make and a title to behold- but the average controller demon doesn't aim train. Meanwhile on mnk- you HAVE TO do SOME FORM of aim training to remain consistent.
Yeah this is actually a really cool concept idea, and exactly that I think there are a lot of people out there specifically for MKB that really hone in and dedicate a portion of their day to aiming (training for example) I know they added it for controller but exactly that, not sure I have seen many of those players do the same. Thanks for watching!
It's the consistency that matters and that's the problem. You can play the exact same on controller for hours and hours. MNK you're going to have ups and downs throughout the day. A decline the longer you play.
Come on guys stop the nonsense. Of course aim assist has to be strong at least close range. How is someone with an analog supposed to fight someone with a mouse?? Theres no problem with AA. When i play mouse i do everything i do with a controller but better, faster and more precise. Just compare a good player on both inputs, there is not advantage for none of them. Its kinda fare this way. MSK way easier controlling recoil, 180 turns. You can put low sense and still manage to do a 180 fast, not on controller with a little thumbstick lol
MNK does not have any aim assist, and MNK players do not want to fight what feels like cheating. Controller does not have the same level of precision and control as MNK and thus needs aim assist to compete against MNK. This argument has existed since the dawn of these inputs and aim assist, both have valid points. The rational solution is to take these very different inputs and instead of considering them as equal and trying to make it so, separate them. Make controller players fight other controller players, make MNK players fight other MNK players. These inputs are very different from each other with their own distinct strength and weaknesses, no matter what is done it's not going to be fair for one side. Because if you make Aim Assist too strong, this favors Controller and MNK is at a net disadvantage. You make Aim Assist too weak and it favors MNK and Controller is at a net disadvantage. It's incredibly difficult to find a good middle ground here, so separation of the inputs is the best option to keep fairness for both sides.
all scum from the same pond, i give up on mutiplayer games, every match is sus at this point, funny how calm and balanced the game was when ps5 first banned the cronus, now every match is just someoe on kill streaks
Bro the problem ist that there are people's using a program which says the finals you play with controller but you play with mouse and keyboard 😂 so no recoil, aimlock, aimbot+ mouse and keyboard! And it's noch even banable right now.
yah. believe it or not it IS a problem that controller kids are able to allow software(aim assist) to do aim input for them in my ranked games. you can let the game play for you if you want, but stay out of my ranked games. this shit is called soft lock in counterstrike and you get banned. no, controller kids dont get software assists in CS(so they learn mnk, or lose. lol. weird...)
My real problem with aim asist is that its shouldnt existence gyro aiming is equal to mk. Microsoft is the reson its not a standard feature in all fps games. Wach the solarlight video.
What ruins the game is $2,500 pc players with macros and arm aim. Im really tired of pc players kbm players complaining. Just sell your gaming pc and buy 5 consoles. The kbm pc master race makes me sick to my stomach.
I don't know much about it but if you look at the video description, I time-stamped where I show the controller settings I'm using currently, hopefully that helps!
Fun thing i turn off crossplay bc there a mod that gives pc aim assist,no recoil and most pros using it and it shows on screen the controller buttons even when using a pc and the game thinks the pc player is from console and gives pc players aim assist and almost zero recoil and after i turned off crossplay the games were so much easier
Ye that's broken... Snap to head shot with limited recoil over any distance is a deal breaker. When you mitigate the need for skill with a crutch, it breaks the game by forcing everybody to use it or get left behind - becoming a game of "who has the better crutch(hack)"... Now high-level gamers use it and the lobbies at higher ranks become impossible, making them literally unkillable. (*not to mention the aim-assist and recoil-reduction plugin for pc, which puts this advantage on keyboard and mouse). AA should be nothing more than helping the cross hair track a fair distance AWAY from the target, but the skill of the gamer needs to bridge the gap to bulls eye, a weak attraction force and ONLY when the player is actively moving their cross hair to track the target, felt within the area of the cross hair... The lock must be able to be broken by the opponent with good movement skill and breaking line-of-sight, otherwise how can anyone justify trying dodge, dip, dive, duck & dodge when your head will be tracked regardless how well you move..? The game in it's current state, due to AA and recoil mitigation, lacks a honed edge in terms of tactical gun-play becoming a brute-force-sprint-around-regurgitate-bullets-in-a-perfect-straight-line-first-one-to-the-trigger-smash-smash kind of game... This game could be the next big e-sport, or just another quick high and short trip to the trash bin.
i found out yesterday people are using kbm config to use as controller and adding antirecoil into it as well --so basically cheating but not really or anyone cant say anything also from the person i found this out told me all top players are using this 70% and yesterday i watched my fav finals light creator playing and it seemed like aim assist on kbm he is top 20 in leaderboard - i havent gotten around to doing this but if not fixed soon who knows
It’s true. This game is ramping up with scripts just like apex did but at a much quicker rate.. damn shame. Shoutout the real shooters without scripts. If you’re using a recoil script you’re elephant shit tbh
Yeah that’s kinda crazy, I hope that Embark can work out a solution to this as that is an entirely different video topic itself, giving AA on KBM is wild for people who don’t have the best aim.
I play The Finals on Xbox Series-X and the Aim Assist isn't anywhere near as strong as what you've just showcased here. So it's obviously just a P.C issue then !?
Yeah I’m assuming so because you’d think that aim assist etc would carry over pretty much closely onto console but that doesn’t seem the case, thanks for letting me know!
the clips of you first starting out on controller are more telling than i think you understand. the aim assist is snapping on to targets and you were fighting it and pulling it off. it really just looks like a hard aim lock lol. edit. this is just soft lock lol. Im gonna go ahead and announce that The Finals controller players are what peak cope looks like. they think they are the ones playing the game lol?
Oooooo really? Damn I didn't think about it like that, I thought that it was just because my aim sens was so high but damn that's actually really cool, maybe you're right then I'll watch the clips back
Yeah I mean I don’t want it to be eradicated, I understand the need for AA etc but the fact I was day 4 and felt that was insane. I hear that it’s not as strong on console though too which is interesting.
On console is not THAT strong and as a console player I want the aim assist to be a aim assist, not a soft aim bot, I personally turn off the zoom snapping because I don't want the game aiming for me
Could’ve tested on multiple classes and not just light and playing close range. I don’t think playing fodder and not using multiple weapons at multiple ranges is a valid test. This was also only after tweaking your other settings not even really just aim assist. And as you can see most of Arkaiks kills weren’t all that crazy. It’s his mechanics
man idk what to tell you but I competed at a very high level in Halo 2/Halo 3. Additionally I was a top 100 player in Destiny 1 and aim assist on The Finals is SIGNIFICANTLY less sticky than in ANY competitive shooter that I've ever played. All of this complaining from MnK players about controller aim assist is INSANE to me. the recoil is way harder to manage in this game than in any fps I've ever played- yes I'll say it again.
dont care. ranked should be separated by input. you can let software do aim input for you while calling it competitive lol. just stay out of my ranked games please. im so ready to leave this cross platform games and go back to CS. ...i dont know if you this... but crossplay games like finals and apex wouldnt last without the PC market... and your fooling yourself if you think im the only one that feels this way.
@@DonaldPrizwan I think PC and Consoles should be segregated too. MNK has no way to keep up with aim assist and controller is nearly useless without it.
You can already disable crossplay Anyone who complains about console aa in the finals hasn't played against console players. They are significantly worse than pc players. I've played both and I'm nearly diamond
The problem with aim assist is that it is NOT YOU who is aiming. Some people are not getting it, it has nothing to with consoles or PC. Let me repeat again, the problem with aim assist is that it is NOT YOU who is aiming. One more time NOT YOU. Before replying, I suggest you reflect upon this truth, maybe sleep on it. Its just that people dont want to adopt the more accurate hardware. Imagine a world where people with using DPADS to aim, imagine them getting aim assist to beat joysticks. Do you see??
Agree so much I'm so sick of these controller players thinking they're so good at shooters when the game is aiming for them the whole time and they're delusional! Tell them to turn off aim assist and they won't just say "bro aim assist doesn't even do anything"
That is a great strong opinion. Advantages on both sides especially at range. Check out the player counts, the game just buried itself for casuals. Player counts are tanking small % of PC players play this game, embark now will generate zero revenue. Zero revenue bad updates, continually lose players. It’s a business and they aren’t big enough to get rid of most of the player base. I hope YOU enjoy aiming at the 2k players left playing in a month.
I actually wish DEVs would try to transition the unwashed controller peasants who are aim assist addicts to gyro controls. Gyro is the solution for controllers.
@@zabulonasselin4253 yeah that’s not going to work unless it’s in COD or Fortnite, need huge player bases. All I’m saying is from a business perspective this will bury them. Every top player game except maybe cs:go generates high dollars from controller players which is why aim assist is active in them.
What’s actually ruining FPS shooter games are M&K cry babies who want every advantage over controller players because they lack the necessary skill to compete agains a controller player.
Honestly as a console player I hate aim assist in the Finals, not because it's too strong but because it's too inconsistent. It's so impossible to get muscle memory of your aim when it seems as if aim slowdown is either none existent or the window around people is so small it might as well not exist. I hate the auto snapping into people and it shouldn't exist at all. I'd much rather they fix the normal aim assist so it feels more like CoD or Overwatch and completely get rid of the auto locking aspect entirely
so we should unplug our keyboards and just be OKAY with the game doing aim input for us? nah bro... to be completely honest, im too proud for that. i would feel absolutely silly knowing exactly just how much of the work software is doing for me. especially coming from mnk where every input must be done by hand... including all of my imperfect inputs.
I'm on console and play controller (obviously) and I've been on controller for my whole life and i played on my brother's pc in fortnite and I had the same if not better aim than controller with like 2 months of experience. In the finals I think if i could play on kbm, I would be better than what i am on controller rn even with aa. It's probably just cause i suck but aa is not as op as everyone says it is and recoil is a reason why i cant aim although, i have had some aa moments where i lock on but i don't think it's that op.
Yo thanks for your comment, and yeah I can agree with you there, that's why I said that I don't want controller players to be nerfed to the ground, just some "adjusting" if that makes sense, maybe the quick snappy stuff close range that I experienced, but I don't think it's the end of the world. Thanks for watching!
Yeah okay sorry this gameplay at the start is easily someone using a zero recoil script that isn't aim assist lmfao aim assist is good in this game for snapping to your target initially the tracking isn't like that and trying to perfectly match a recoil pattern on a controller is near impossible and this guys reticle doesn't move an inch. It's not aim assist that is the big problem.
When you get crouns zen so the aim asist is like this no ricoil i am play like 250 hours rank platinum and never shoot like this fcr the fcr ricoil go top all time from this range so this is no aim asist this cruns zen on man
And if this aim asist was that strong i was top 1 in the game this no aim assist this no ricoil players who i dont gona see ever in tornmunts world play only from home and think is good player and this players tall what need to game change so fun and the finals not dead game because is fun game not like all games right now
PC player here, I'm sorry but why is this a problem? ESports will probably be on PC, you can turn off cross-play, so just let those Console players have some fun
Hey Maksympatom! Turning off cross-play doesn't turn off PC crossplay as shown in the video, you're talking about input based matchmaking, which people are calling for adding. Also, I don't want to change anything about console players, all the video was for was showing myself (a KBM player) and my progress 4 days after using controller and talking about if it would kill fun in THE FINALS! I said that it wouldn't, but if they did decide to keep it in the game VS KBM players, it would need some adjusting :) Appreciate you watching! :)
Hey. Thank you for the clarification. And for the great video!) @@THiiXY So what does crossplay setting mean then? I thought it was making it so PC and console can't be in the same match. But PC players can still use the controller vs KBM players, am I right? If so - would adding another option to turn off matching KBM players with controller players be a solution?
No worries! And you're exactly right, crossplay disables Console and KBM players in matches together, but adding that option for "input" based also removes PC controller players if that makes sense :)
Keep in mind guys they nerfed it cause pc players were using controller emulators but still using kbm and Getting same hit rates as aimbot hackers lmfao
All credibility for M and K player crying their pathetic eyes out about aim assist goes out the window when you actually play at a high level again M and K and they basically have movement cheats. While firing the gun with a controller you also have to fight against the same recoil as everyone else and while doing this and trying to track cracked out 1000 sensitivity M and K players aim assist doesn’t do sh*t. Also the second this becomes some e sports pro game is the very second the game is ruined forever. Keep the game fun. Not for “pros” who suck the life out of every game they touch.
