5:40 Correct me if I’m wrong but KLM announces this on every flight while going trough the safety instructions, no matter who’s on board! So don’t take it too personal :)
@@Charlie4Aviationair France has more KLM shares then KLM has of Airfrance. Its a merge not a one way purchase. It explains why the group is based in Paris thougy
the reason your legroom on air france was tighter is cuz you were flying on their airbus a318 which is a very small plane and on your other flight on klm you were on their 737-800 which is bigger
Love the fact that you gave KLM another shot, i´m Dutch myself and i flew them once and i had a great experience with them, i also flew air France once, both comparable, also the wifi on air France was more expensive because KLM was for 2400 miles and for air France 3000 miles.
This is what happens when an ignorant average youtuber for the mass crowds makes a video on airlines, full of inaccuracies especially noticeable to someone like me (I am an expert in the aviation industry). KLM isn't a "rival" of AF in any way, they are actually very close competing partners and subsidiaries of the AF/KLM Group (of which Air France is the major airline). Also, the service onboard KLM isn't passive aggressive, as they announce that on all flights, and it's not about you. Even on my KLM flights they made the same announcements. The world doesn't revolve around you. Seats were better before (these are new and renovated). (Wi-Fi isn't even pricey). European security is generally amazing, it's not luck, just simply the norm. AND the Air France aircraft isn't older than the KLM one, and it's actually way better. Arrivederci.
@@ericjones7769 alright but like if i want to fly from paris to amsterdam and price is similar or doesnt matter, i still have to choose, this video makes it easier my friend.
Hey mate, KLM do that announcement on every flight. KLM crews are really good and always friendly. You must try Finnair Business Class on their new seat.
I havent flown either of these airlines but it was interesting to see how they compared to eachother! Also its nice seeing how lounges look since i never go lol😂😂
Here’s a fun fact: You flew on an Airbus A318 with Air France. It’s one of the most difficult planes to fly on as only 80 were built and only 10 remain in commercial service.
Not to worry KLM usually makes the announcement on filming/photos/recording. It wasn't targeted at you, no ill intent I assure you. Also, because of the extremely short flight between London and Amsterdam you only get the water and a snack. On flights that are a little longer (like the AF flight you took), KLM will also cater a sandwich and a variety of beverages.
KLM is probably the airline I've flown the most on, and I really like it. But earlier this year I was on my way home from Bologna, and I was going to Amsterdam because it was a connecting flight. When we were boarding we were told we had to go back into the airport because of an "issue". Then, 40 minutes later, we boarded again. When we were fully boarded, the pilot said that he "thought" one of the wheels didn't have any air left, so he called someone to check it. The person checking the wheel wasn't in the airport, so that took a long time. When they arrived, they said there was nothing wrong with it. So that was just a waste of time. I barely got my connecting flight. The pilot even had to say that the person travelling to ____ (Where I was going) had to leave first, so everybody that wasnt going to ____ had to sit down (nobody followed that rule). Oh, and I've also never experienced so much turbulence. The guy behind my seat was holding on my seat like he was about to die. Btw I managed to get on the connecting flight, I just had to run.
Being honest, the only way to compare 2 airlines, you should fly to the same destination, and If possible with the same aircraft. Such as AMS-DXB with KLM and DXB-CDG with AirFrance.
Hi, the KLM announcement about not filming or photographing other passengers or crew is a standard one since several years. I hear it every time I fly with them, and it is not directed personally.
Hi Eric, you’re pretty lucky to get a ride in an A318! It’s pretty rare these days, also that plane stopped producing around 10 years ago so maybe that’s why the legroom and seat isn’t that great.
as someone who flew with both airfrance and klm this year (DUB-AMS-NRT with KLM and HND-CDG-DUB with air france) klm is much much better. the service on the klm flights was the best I've ever had. the seats were comfy and the food was amazing. the layover and transfer was also quick and easy too and the staff were very helpful. The only thing airfrance did better was the ife
Nope! The AirFrance KLM Group owns both of them. The AF-KLM group is owned by AirFrance and KLM... AF doesn't own KLM since the AF-KLM group is owned by both! ;)
@@bioappelsapjeAF used to have more shares in KLM then KLM had in AF until the merge happend and both companies were 100% owned by the holding company. However ex-AF shareholders and France state has dominant shares in the group over ex-KLM SH and netherland state. Even if its legally innacurate to say AF owns KLM, AF is dominant in the merge
Yo dude! Been a fan for a long time now, and I loved this vid like always! I have a suggestion: Maybe next time you could show us the routes earlier on in the video? That way we know what the flight info is before you being on the plane. Thanks! ❤
KLM/AF is the same group. Actually KLM did a bit better in the past without AF, but those were also different times. I find the airplanes and interior of KLM to be comfortable but uninspiring. The good things about KLM are the service and the fact that they still hand out free drinks.
Also, you shoudl definitely check out the PUJ / MDPC lounge, it is kind of small but great quality, you could fly directly from there or from SDQ / MDSD with Iberia and Air Europa to Madrid. I have a trip to Spain due to some family member getting some medical treatment so we want to be there, we are currently jumping between these two. Great vid btw!!!!
When they said to not film any crew or passengers it wasn’t directed to you. They also said that on my KLM flight. It’s probably just what they have to say in the safety announcement.
KLM is also doing full drinks service if the flight is long enough (I guess like 1h minimum). On very short flights they only serve you water and chips
Also nice to know is that KLM is the oldest airline in the world operating under the same name since founding it in 1919. I have worked for KLM as a Flight Attendant and I think it is worth to mention that it is also the best employer I have ever worked for (so far). Even during COVID they handled it well. No one was forced to leave. People have left off course, but they left with a sum of money. Because a lot of elder employees left voluntarily, no one was laid off. The temporary contracts where however ended, but many returned after the pandemic with the same terms and conditions as before COVID. Before someone asks.. I have left without pay after COVID and only because I wanted to study and become a nurse and paramedic. Even then they handled everything wonderfully. It is a big airline with over 30K in employees and I have never have felt like a number. So not only nice for its patients! @klm #klm
I will say that Air France is better because I am French, they have a much more diversified fleet, Boeing, Airbus, Embraer and CRJ. and it offers more destination.
In Europe, you don't have to take your shoes or belts off during security unless you get double-inspected. And in LHR, they let you refill your bottle for free.
5:27 That ‘call-out’ was not aimed towards you. Reminding passengers to not film other passengers or crew is part of their standard safety instructions and applies on all flights. I can’t remember a single KLM-flight where they haven’t announced this. Its not always about you 😉
Flown on both recently for work - Service is better than the likes of BA or Easyjet, who I find as being comparable. On a longer flight from Schipol to Bristol on KLM, it was nice to be served a sandwich, crisp and drinks. Likewise, I flew from Lyon to Nuremberg with Air France and was only given pretzels and a drink. It just depends on how far your hop is. I had a 30L rucksack and steel toetector boots and had no issues in any of the two cases. For European short haul flights, it's a case of convenience. We regularly fly KLM out of Bristol since Schipol is well connected and saves the faff of having to get to LHR or LCY.
They didn’t got on the com to give you a sneaky attack for the camera, it’s standard procedure for KLM and they announce this every flight. I live in the Netherlands so I fly allot with KLM hahaha.
You could've flown into Turkish Airlines (amazing airline trust me), and like that, have an idea of how skyteam (AF and KLM) and start alliance (Turkish Airlines) are different. Was still a nice video :)
The comparison is a bit skewed because London to Amsterdam is an extra-EU & extra-Schengen flight, while Amsterdam to Paris is almost a domestic flight as it is intra-EU and intra-Schengen. Plus, certain drugs are allowed in the Netherlands, and the Paris Brussels Amsterdam corridor is considered high threat by authorities, so it's pretty normal for the security filter to be more thorough. Was the lounge Air France proper? Or KLM with an Air France sticker? The AMS CDG route is usually mostly used by people connecting on to intercontinental flights at either CDG or AMS rather than point to point travelers (there's the Eurostar, former Thalys high-speed train for that), so the route is essentially a bus of the sky where Air France, or KLM, put their basic cabins. It's usually where you can find the oldest cabins in the fleet, just like on the shuttle domestic network for Air France. (KLM doesn't have domestic flights, simply because there's no longer any domestic flights in the Netherlands). A more proper comparison would have been AMS LHR vs CDG LHR, as they both would have the same status, both departing from their home home hub airports. Testing Air France from AMS, which is KLM home base, is testing a bit of KLM too, as AF's cleaning crews and other services in AMS are in fact normally KLM's since they both are parent companies.
