Intel's Taped & Glued Arc A770 GPU: Tear-Down & Disassembly of Limited Edition Card

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In this video, we're tearing apart the brand new Intel Arc A770 16GB Limited Edition video card (it's not actually limited). All testing was conducted prior to the tear-down and the card, of course, still works. The A770 card is dressed-up with LEDs -- and they are nice -- but it uses a mixture of double-sided tape, glue, normal tape, and screws to hold it all together. This tear-down shows you how Intel built its new in-house board for the A770 GPU, but for the performance review & benchmarks, check out our other video on the channel.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Tearing Into Intel's A770 Card
03:45 - The First Step
05:04 - Just Yank Hard
09:05 - Did Ya Hear the Quality?
10:30 - BANG
11:52 - A LOT OF TAPE
14:27 - The Problem with the Backside Plate
16:24 - The PCB is Free
17:58 - Exterior Die Size A770 & More Glue
20:30 - Taking Apart the Shroud
23:45 - Insane Levels of Customization
25:30 - Conclusion
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@GamersNexus Год назад

Watch our Intel A750 GPU review: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-de51aJ33dMk.html Grab a GN Tear-Down Toolkit! store.gamersnexus.net/products/gamersnexus-tear-down-toolkit or a GN Large Modmat! store.gamersnexus.net/products/modmat-volt-large (both in stock & shipping at time of posting) Watch our Intel Arc A770 review & benchmarks: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nEvdrbxTtVo.html

@Lamiishere Год назад

Cringe Af

@SirPoppy Год назад

@@Lamiishere the only cringe thing is your non-existant father

@Keepskatin Год назад

Intel is a Beast, the performance of this card is Ace a1😵🪴

@CalvinJary Год назад

From the guys that brought you: AMD just glued together their chiplets comes: a truly glued together card

@lummoxicide1502 Год назад

Hey Steve, does your team have any plans to release a shorty set of the GN screwdriver kit

@incollectio Год назад

A screwless design with only 55-56 screws. Impressive.

@XtreeM_FaiL Год назад

It is also wireless.

@homelessEh Год назад

@@XtreeM_FaiL some one do the meme tictoc/yt short.. get an old busted videocard but take a Drill to it and screw like 30 Deck screws into it.. watch the intel sales pitch video of SCREWLESS design!! flash over to you holding your videocard thats literally got Deck screws all through it even take an old ide cable and screw screws all through the cable .. then look dissapointed at your Screw design videocard.. and fade out to you dreaming of a Screwless intel videocard.. then show the classic windows bluescreen as an ending lol

@lessthanlogical Год назад

Anything under 64 screws is practically no screws at all. This is a well known industry standard, yes?

@YiotisTheGnome Год назад

We should probably add another 1 or 2 on that number. 1 for Steve for going thru the whole process of tearing it down. And another for the poor person that has to put it back together. (probably Steve again).

@EwanMarshall Год назад

and multiple different kinds so you now must add factory processes to slow production to make sure the right ones go in the right place...

@Nesformers Год назад

We've gone from intel trowing shade at glued CPUs to Intel's glued together GPUs

@GamersNexus Год назад

That definitely should have been referenced in the video. Great point! haha

@enraversadi2903 Год назад

they deserve to get shit on for that.

@Rspsand07 Год назад

Intel locks down OC on their mobos and CPU tiers for no reason, so it's not really surprising they don't want you opening your GPU

@lilblackduc7312 Год назад

@@GamersNexus This approach to construction is why the Apollo 1 crew capsule burned. 👎🏿👎🏿

@frizzlefry1921 Год назад

Indubitably.

@Sypher474 Год назад

Honestly looks like a laptop engineering and manufacturing team were outsourced by Intel for this. Very similar elements in many machines I've disassembled

@tomaszzalewski4541 Год назад

Considering that this is Intel first serious try I propably wouldn't say outsourced more as they had to create the team from scrath. Remeber they mostly are making CPU's so their Graphics card looking similar is to be expected. Personally I m just happy that we finally have An RGB (AMD, Nvidia and Intel)

@deldarel Год назад

@@tomaszzalewski4541 None of this seems very in-house. The design looks classic business-casual Intel and in line with their new stock coolers, but the finish, materials, assembly and build quality feel very out of place for intel. I think the in-house design went as far as a 3D cad render. My guess is that they banked on board partners to take over. The founder edition is called 'limited edition'. They had to get these cards out or it'd be another chicken and egg problem. Nobody really bit other than Asrock.

@xynonners Год назад

@@deldareland acer Also, the LE moniker is exclusive to the A770, the A750 FE is not considered "LE."

@deldarel Год назад

@@xynonners my bad, I must have misunderstood it when someone said the FE is only made by Intel. Acer made one, which is barely available and terrible value. The only thing it does well is catch eyes. It's more a billboard that acer makes gpus now rather than a serious product

@momchilandonov 11 месяцев назад

@@xynonners Intel has A750 limited edition ;).

@Tyler-rs3wy Год назад

Watching you take that apart was stressful. I can only imagine what it's like assembling or servicing it. RMA/maintenance teams are going to love these cards.

@SlenderSmurf Год назад

Pretty sure this thing has more screws and cables than my laptop, and that was a small hell to replace the fans on

@EM83D Год назад

@@SlenderSmurf Some notebooks have the same hell but most of them offer quite easy fan replace without the need of full disassembly. This GPU looks neat but repairability is near zero.

@jayjaygolden5123 Год назад

"here you, a replacement rtx 3060. what do you mean, that wasnt your card? shhh shhh, its better this way, just pretend its okay and move on"

@danieloberhofer9035 8 месяцев назад

Coming back to this a year later makes you realize: They probably never repaired defective units anyway, because they're probably happy for every card they get out of a warehouse - even if it's just a replacement for a defective one.

@Nomanspie Год назад

Intel: "Check out our screwless design" GN: "this GPU is basically made of screws"

@JeanPiFresita Год назад

But what is really laughable is that not even all 65 screws are the same... there are up to 5 different types among all of them... wtf?????

@getsideways7257 Год назад

@@JeanPiFresita At least they didn't come up with custom heads...

@lop1652 Год назад

@@getsideways7257 Yea, at least they are not Apple bad.... Yet.

@getsideways7257 Год назад

@@lop1652 If they'll invest more into intricate design, we might see videos of even higher entertainment value once their next gen hits.

@getsideways7257 Год назад

@The13thRonin Well, people always ask for variety...

@wabash9000 Год назад

I work in engineering for a company that does small electronics manufacturing and our assemblers complain to engineering when we put 6 screws on a product. If we put 20 screws on a product, our whole manufacturing department would quit. If we put 55 on one product, they would probably find out where the engineers live and burn our houses down.

@Aereto Год назад

And if there's only tape and 0 screws, the Right to Repair enthusaists may hunt down the homes of those assemblers wanting to remove screws, seal tape the doors and windows, and gas them all in CS for 24 hours. emphasis on 24 hours because riot gas is not lethal unless you make them to be.

@Kirito14682 Год назад

They used glue and tape which means putting it back together is going to be so much fun. Any type of rma feels like it's better off just replacing the card

@thebrute0747 Год назад

Sounds about right. "TOOLS?! WE HAVE TO USE A SCREWDRIVER?! UGHHHHHH"

@bradonhoover3002 Год назад

But, hear me out, 55 screws *and* there's 8 extremely similar variants throughout the product decided almost randomly

@Kirito14682 Год назад

@@bradonhoover3002 It looks like they had random variety of screws, why else would they have different variants on the same location

@andrewperkovich8184 Год назад

when you took off that cheap backplate, i was like "why did they put that over?" it looks actually pretty nice with it off. watching this tear down gives me dell computer vibes with over use of plastic and weird engineer.

@staticallX Год назад

That's one cool LED board by Intel. It even has video card as an extra!

@in_sound_mind Год назад

I'm still amazed how comically large 4090 is.

@theideaofevil Год назад

It looks like an oversized novelty toy graphics card lmao

@Kubose Год назад

Craziest part is, that FE is one of the smaller 4090's, der8auer put up a comparison with the Aorus Master 4090 and it makes the FE look small somehow.

@tymandude1510 Год назад

It looks like a literal brick. I bet you could build a pretty structurally sound house of them!

@infernaldaedra Год назад

@@tymandude1510If you could run all the GPUs you would probably make the house a sauna lol

@luckyowl10 Год назад

Is it just me or it looks like A770 is about half as thicc as 4090

@sleeplessindefatigable6385 Год назад

I can see fan replacement procedures for these to consist of: 1: attack shroud with hacksaw. 2: strap noctua fans on with tape. 3: connect noctua fans to chassis header.

@UNSTOPABLE40XBOX Год назад

And i bet better temps

@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Год назад

Probably a more effective use of time.

@Jerevinan Год назад

Sounds like a future Dawid video.

@kevlarandchrome Год назад

@@Jerevinan It would have to be Noctua knock-offs from Ali Express though.

@gslidevideotester8592 Год назад

Doubly important since apparently the official driver has no fan control support.

@somesalmon5694 Год назад

Beautiful screwless design, very impressive!

@hebediahgoldbach3031 Год назад

Now show Paul Allens graphicscard.

@Lambda.Function Год назад

Let's see how much they improve in their next gen cards. Both in performance and build quality. I'm really hoping to see them competing with the mid range ATI and nvidia cards with solid quality, then we'll just have to worry about drivers.

@bornonthebattlefront4883 Год назад

Ehhh Don’t hold your breath There was a A780 that was supposed to come out that met the 3070 in performance It didn’t work Next gen Intel MIGHT come in 2024, and by that point, it’s gonna be competing against RDNA5 and RTX 6000 They would do good if they reach 4060 performance That’s if Intel doesn’t can Arc completely on desktop

@ocococococococococococococ3267 Год назад

@@bornonthebattlefront4883 in 2024 intel is gonna compete against rtx 50xx not 60xx

@lukerutledge1357 Год назад

bro actually called them ATI not AMD

@Lambda.Function Год назад

@@lukerutledge1357 IYKYK

@mokseee Год назад

@@lukerutledge1357 I'm just barely old enough to remember that I had one of the last ATI Cards in my first laptop

@Crftbt Год назад

7:24 love the screwless screws in the screwless design.

@vibonacci Год назад

This was not in the announced announcement of the announcement.

@GamersNexus Год назад

Screwless screws are pretty amazing. You don't even need to unscrew a screw to unscrew the screw.

@NPzed Год назад

@@GamersNexus We're screwed!

@zam1007 Год назад

@@GamersNexus Screwless screw, reminds me of my wife 😶

@charlesballiet7074 Год назад

the drivers had a few loose screws with so they overcompensated with the shroud design

@Mach141 Год назад

Love these tear down videos! These are not manufactured to be disassemble frequently, but listening to Steve whine and complain makes it all worthwhile!

@timhartherz5652 Год назад

If you ever need to replace a fan: Just break the old one out of the housing and hotglue a case fan to the front.

@oplefirem Год назад

Oddly brilliant

@joshbailey4124 Год назад

If whoever edits these thinks they've at some point used the "thanks Steve" clip too much, you haven't. Makes me laugh every time

@Lazaerus Год назад

I'm still trying to figure out who the guy is that stands up and goes "ow my knees... :("

@quieroverduras Год назад

@@Lazaerus Wendell from LEVELONETECHS is the guy with the sore knees

@shinjipyon Год назад

@@Lazaerus he’s from Level1Techs Been following him since Tek Syndicate days

@sewer56lol Год назад

Please, do not stop. It cracks me up everytime.

@ayuchanayuko Год назад

_Thank you papa_

@jaywhite15_AL Год назад

Your constant using of Intel's own presentation is top notch. 💯😂

@VladKov36 Год назад

20:24 haha

@_Sigfried_ Год назад

4:38 Perfectly cut drop. Whoever's editing this, Thanks. I personally love these little touches.

@geletrode Год назад

yeah i love these random little easter eggs in the GN videos. funny af too

@james9449 Год назад

Maybe it's an LTT advertisement hehe

@denkigundam Год назад

"Thanks Steve" never gets old. Always makes me chuckle. Always well placed. Keep up the good work, can't wait for the new shirt!

@Lethaltail Год назад

Ow, my knees!

@Ikxi Год назад

Thanks, Denki

@Zwettekop Год назад

Where the hell is that from?

@BBWahoo Год назад

Thank you papa *taps chest* Yeah... 🥰

@lukephillips5618 Год назад

@@Zwettekop Intel's presentation at Computex 2021. Here's the Gamer's Nexus video on it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OnNZ3hCjIvs.html

@bhijdasasdjhasdbjkdasbjkfasbjk Год назад

the 'Thanks Steve' cuts always make me laugh ; great vid as usual!

@TheJamie109 Год назад

Thank you for suffering through this for us steve. When I need to tear it down, your videos are so valuable, and will save me completely destroying it. It won't go back exactly the same though, which really dissapointed me.

@steves9260 Год назад

Laughed so hard at the Wendell cameo for a "Thanks Steve!". I swear it only gets funnier.

@TemporalOnline Год назад

Ow my knee!

@loamymtb Год назад

That one really took me by surprise haha

@Reyfox1 Год назад

It was leftover glue from AMD "gluing" their chips together...Intel got it at a great price.

@spankbuda7466 Год назад

Intel is finally sticking it to AMD.

@Fay7666 Год назад

No they're sticking it to their own GPUs.

@dra6o0n Год назад

@@spankbuda7466 "Sticking to AMD"

@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Год назад

@@dra6o0n lmao

@gavin5861 Год назад

I really like the look of these GPUs, they nailed the aesthetics, I hope they continue the look or other manufacturers make more GPUs this clean.

@armorgeddon Год назад

I'd rather look at the display signal it's outputting.

@willmaud2359 10 месяцев назад

@@armorgeddon Most GPUs have gaudy ornamentation, so simple designs fall in line with that.

@Drinkyoghurt Год назад

Question about the toolkit warranty: Does the warranty cover the heads wearing/stripping? That's my main concern with screwdrivers and the cheap ones usually don't last that long. With a 70-year warranty I'm seriously considering this.

@kevlarandchrome Год назад

Congratulations Intel, you managed to make modern car engineers look competent at design and ease of servicing.

@o_sagui6583 Год назад

God that's even more of a cursed thought when you consider that cars now have subscriptions for built in features like heated seats and stereo . . . We're fucking doomed and the cause is going to be wasted silicon

@kevlarandchrome Год назад

@@o_sagui6583 Most likely.

@RCmaniac667 Год назад

Let's not go that far lol

@mndlessdrwer Год назад

Nah, Ford still has them beat. I have to remove my bumper and the headlight housing itself just to change a light bulb. GPUs don't even have what should be considered "consumable" components, particularly when they go to the trouble of sourcing Cooler Master fans for their card. Short of Noctua, they're about as good as you can get in terms of sheer reliability. Really, the only thing that you might want to change before 5 years passes, since the fans aren't terribly likely to die before then, is the thermal paste, which is a less involved process now that we know you don't need to remove the screws holding down the little LED control PCB. use a plastic spudger to carefully lift the back panel, unscrew the handful of screws holding the back plate to the midplate and the GPU die to the cooler and pop it apart. Use a pair of pliers or forceps to unseat the connectors and you're good to go with replacing the thermal paste and pads.

@Dan-yk6sy Год назад

How many miles before you change the oil on your GPU?

@gothroachkinski754 Год назад

How are you guys so good with using the "Thanks Steve" footage without it ever getting old? I still laugh every time it comes up, you guys are masterful at finding the right moments to invoke it.

@konzo5942 Год назад

i know right, complete opposite of that emotional damage meme that got old and annoying so fast with other youtubers

@iamdopeasfcuk Год назад

they use it after steve says "thanks intel". it's not rocket science finding an area to place that footage in the vid.

@luckyowl10 Год назад

Thanks Papa is the new meme, it's priceless

@JayBlancVideos Год назад

If only there were some company with experience in graphics card manufacturing that suddenly had excess capacity in terms of their entire graphics card manufacturing not doing anything right now, then Intel could talk to them about manufacturing graphics cards.

@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart Год назад

But they'd need to actually deliver GPU dies to said company, without being late by a whole two quarters.

@austinmcelwaine6249 Год назад

@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart since when has intel been concerned about delaying a product?

@monzarace Год назад

would that be a certain company who has just announced that they dropped nvidia...?...

@breakingyourlegs Год назад

Yeah, if only such a company would exist...

@Frawt Год назад

@@monzarace Wow! Fuck having any subtlety in humour! Guys! lmao haha Is the company EVGA????????!?!?!?! xdxdxdxd No FUCKING SHIT IT'S THAT SAME COMPANY.

@sleeplesshollow4216 Год назад

Gamers Nexus you've become really funny lately good to see so much of your personality show through these latest videos.

@hsitko Год назад

Steve. I appreciate you. Thank you for this enjoyable content. Thank you for being thorough and detailed. Keep using your powers for awesome.

@wertywerrtyson5529 Год назад

I recently did a thermal repaste on a decade old card and I was amazed by how easy it was. I certainly used to be much easier to tear down cards.

@Fin4L6are Год назад

It's not used to be, it just depends on if the manufacturer wants to be user friendly

@shurin3126 Год назад

Nah you had utter nightmares in the past too, its just a matter of asshole design

@hrvstmn31 Год назад

@Michaels Carport Same, its was a 6950 by a company that I don't think even exists anymore. It was 4 or so screws and one connector for the fans.

@Knaeckebrotsaege Год назад

I repasted my old MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X (non-Ti) recently. Four screws and two plugs (logo LEDs and fans) to take the entire giant cooler off. Meanwhile I actually had to look up a fcking tutorial for my RX 6800...

@UD503J Год назад

Yep I did a fan replacement and repaste on an RX590 recently. Knocked about 6 degrees off a Timespy run, and about 10 off of ambient.

@johnsondeng Год назад

Never get tired of hearing Steve have an "Ohhh come on!!!" outburst in a tear-down video.

@monzarace Год назад

I think the funniest part is where Steve tries to pick up that top plate from the table. Well, at least it stuck to that... Cheers.

@justinl4281 Год назад

Love it.. exploring the disassembly..

@furballphillip Год назад

The editor had a field day with this video, I love it. 😂

@Joostinonline Год назад

As someone who frequently works on laptops, I feel for you. Also, a tip on taped stuff. Put it on wax paper. It prevents dust buildup and stops it from sticking to anything else.

@PDXCustomPCS Год назад

Hey I appreciate the tip. 19 years later, hate laptops still. I never once thought or read of this. Lol.

@Joostinonline Год назад

@cas curse Do you even do professional computer repair? That is so unbelievably impractical. People don't want to wait a month and be charged an extra $20 because a technician can't be bothered to properly reuse parts. It's also a huge waste. Yes, keep some double sided tape for strengthening things, but don't order replacements for everything when it isn't actually necessary.

@kiyoponnn Год назад

@@Joostinonline are you smoking crack? you should always have enough stock of the things you use the most for repairs, it's common sense 101

@raphaelambrosiuscosteau829 Год назад

@cas curseActually now that i read it again, your comment might be about fully replacing just adhesive itself with an "official" kit or whatever, if so this is mostly reasonable if you can keep these kits in stock on site. You are still being cringe about it though and keeping a stock of official adhesive replacement kits might be impossible for new models of "certain brands", because they don't allow you to keep anything in stock lol. But you can mostly disregard everything below if that's the case and you aren't actually replacing entire part if it is at all glued. Still, relax a little. My brother in christ, you aren't sending rockets to the space, you are repairing low grade consumer electronics, stop being uppity about it. If you are replacing any part that needs glue or tape, you either are an idiot or lying about what you do. What if the back of a perfectly fine phone screen is glued, gonna order a replcement too? Just take a blade and some alcohol, scrape the glue residue off and replace the adhesive with whatever's appropriate

@bigtitmaster Год назад

wow, didnt even think of that. thanks

@gamingmarcus Год назад

This for sure looks like the NUC engineers had a field day. They love those crazy elaborate designs.

@Gabu_ Год назад

Probably exactly what happened. "We have an entire division that's used to making small enclosures, right? Have them design it"

@Justchuck69 Год назад

You do realize that NUC is a separate company from Intel and part of the Intel Partner Alliance but they did make quite a few Ryzen based NUCs too! Some where under the Ruby name I think!

@prochizcz Год назад

@@Justchuck69 No, NUCs are specifficaly designed by intel and name NUC itself is trademarked by them, AMD alternatives exist but they are not and can't be called NUC. NUC alternatives for AMD are called mini pcs

@mndlessdrwer Год назад

Nobody likes crazy, elaborate designs more than smartphone engineers. They will use half a dozen flat-flex ribbon cables to shave half a millimeter off of the packaging size of the components compared to just building a larger PCB. They also love auxiliary PCBs more than any other industry, because it lets them move things around to wherever they have space left for it. And that's before we get to the last couple of generations of phones where the modern "sandwich PCB" has come into common use, where they basically use soldered connectors to bind two layers of PCB together with basically no gap between them so they can squeeze as much components into the most compact space possible. We should just be glad that Intel didn't hire smartphone PCB engineers for their GPUs. We should also probably be grateful that laptops haven't started to use those designs, because then they would be even less repairable.

@joshuac837 Год назад

I'm sure they would have an amazing get-together with BMW engineers lmao

@mattd1188 Год назад

55.5 screws is still 20 less than it takes to hold down the ROG laptop keyboards.

@awilliams1701 Год назад

You can literally see it. Thanks Steve! Thank you papa!

@blackraen Год назад

7:26 Thanks Steve never gets old. I need a GN "Thanks Steve" shirt.

@Silverhazey_ Год назад

Oh man, that “Thanks Steve!” Intel reply at 7:27 is golden please keep that clip in use, shit was hilariously timed.

@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Год назад

I like whenever they use it. The "ow my knees" is pretty good too.

@vlafvlaf5934 Год назад

Wysi

@Tommy-gc7us Год назад

Oh my god 727

@forestR1 Год назад

9:23 is even better XD

@AdnanCucak Год назад

I laughed so hard

@santinojoshuatorre1695 Год назад

good grief - this was such a pain to watch that I hope EVGA sees this and partners up with intel out of sheer pity,

@joemarais7683 Год назад

I don’t think they’d want to make video cards that have broken software that’ll result in tons of returns and rmas. But they’d be the perfect partner to produce red lined variants.

@lilblackduc7312 Год назад

EVGA probably knows, there's some things even a pro just can't fix?

@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Год назад

@@lilblackduc7312 EVGA probably knows a pro can fix anything. ...At a cost.

@JABelms Год назад

@@joemarais7683 Not the first time EVGA dealt with weird ass/half working products. My friend loved EVGA Classified shit that I was there trying to fix them as well

@robertt9825 Год назад

I like it when there's a new gn video because it means I can get some sleep

@zimmerman1031 Год назад

Nothing like being a new player in the game, and you not only do not innovate, you actually push things in the opposite direction for design. Well done Intel, showing us all how it's done.

@juanmassiosare9850 Год назад

When you get used to "competing" in a Quasi-Monopoly, these things happen.

@OpenLogicEFI Год назад

Love your work and I value your opinions in my purchases. I design PCB's for automotive use for a living. I can add a little insight to one part of this. That LED ring PCB isn't actually the worst idea from a design standpoint. It's extremally simple and you'd be surprised how cheap it would be to manufacture especially in bulk. I also bet it was designed in a few hours. Not allot of time or money in that specific part. The way it's attached on the other hand, I have to agree with you there. Small plastic clips on the housing, screws really anything but tape or glue.

@joshuasisson6816 Год назад

I design pcbs as well. They probably had the rings and edge boards done on the same panel. Given how thin they are I wouldn't expect the board to be much more than a dollar, if that. Low current as well and that drops the copper thickness down as well.

@nogravitas7585 Год назад

Yeah the fan circles 24:18 and led shroud pcb 24:00 fit neatly inside one another and the space inside each circle is enough for the ARC led pcb 13:11 and that other LED pcb 11:54 are all probably made in one piece so it isn't as wasteful as people would expect. The use of threaded inserts where "wood" screws into hollow plastic posts would've sufficed means this was designed by someone used to low volume production though.

@MrHaggyy Год назад

Heyoh, i build systems for automotive. And i really liked these LED-PCB's and they are really cheap if you consider all functions they do. What i don't like at all are those extra power PCB. You have a connector from a PCB, to a PCB to get to a PCB in on single unit ... just why. It's like 3-5 bucks and a punch of possible failures for nothing. Also casing any PCB in plastic was never a good idea ever ...but we tend to do it all the time ...

@joshuasisson6816 Год назад

@@MrHaggyy experience has a lot to do with it. If the engineer is unfamiliar with things, they'll be making accessory boards for everything. Also, mechanical constraints given by other departments. They'll decide a long wire is better than running a trace to a connector that can sandwich to another pcb removing the need for wires, and other similar ideas.

@ic3man5 Год назад

This video makes me feel better because even a company like Intel produces products like this when rushed. Cost and efficiency was bypassed for the launch date and I agree with that decision. They probably didn't account for the pressure AMD put on.

@ArmchairMagpie Год назад

Not to mention that many adhesives do not age well when constantly exposed to heat and are susceptible to dust as well.

@GL1TCH3D Год назад

The whole design felt like it was meant to be discarded after 2-3 years. Low cost, lots of tape and glue, hard to self-repair.

@Sentarry Год назад

@@GL1TCH3D Intel understood limited edition and it took it literally

@BigDrewski1000 Год назад

Most double sided tapes fall into that category sadly

@EM83D Год назад

Cars today are glued at many poinst. It only depends on the type/quality. Of course there is a high chance that even Intel used special, durable double sided tape, you as a user can't buy something so special so once you disassembled this card it is better to skip the backplate.

@Shendue Год назад

@@EM83D Yeah, that's why a bunch of stuff in the interiors of my car is falling apart. And that's not something that is put into an environment with components that run very hot inside.

@joecrak249 7 месяцев назад

I love the desine on this card I agree though it shouldn't be that hard to tear down and get into for a user to be able to preform maintenance for a longer life. this was a great video as are most from this channel happy I found it.

@mclovin9210 Год назад

"It's the totality of the contrivancy that drives those complaints" Never change mate. In German we say "ich bin mit der Gesamtsituation unzufrieden", and your wording captures that sentiment perfectly.

@ac3theartist225 Год назад

Definitely feels like the first version of a product. Curious what changes Battlemage will make.

@chrisdpratt Год назад

Likely none, since they've already finalized the design of that before they even sent Alchemist out for review.

@ac3theartist225 Год назад

@@chrisdpratt I don't think that's likely. I highly doubt that Steve (or any of the press) was the first to tell people at Intel about the issues re:manufacturing and thermals. They've probably known for a very long time.

@thursdaythought7201 Год назад

@@chrisdpratt They finalized the design of the cooler shroud? That makes no sense... they don't even have the full data on final power consumption at this point. You're full of shit.

@dennish9543 Год назад

Half the number of screws, twice the Powah!

@amunak_ Год назад

@@chrisdpratt They might have finalized the design of the chip itself and related stuff (like memory and power delivery) but the actual design of the boards, the PCBs, etc. should have enough time to finalize.

@madrazproductions5776 Год назад

You and this channel has resurrected the super nerd in me that i had sadly ran away from in my school years. Im so glad to have found this channel

@randomlyentertaining8287 Год назад

Never forget that the non-nerds need nerds to fix their expensive electronics XD

@MrPinguinzz Год назад

The screwless design is a reference to you never wanting to screw yourself opening it.

@NoWayNick Год назад

That teardown looked like a lot of work

@chrisvenning7571 Год назад

Part 2 please. I wanna see Steve put this back together. 😂

@NextEevolution Год назад

Hearing the tape separate as the thin metal backplate bends and the plastic clatter of the led strips reminded me of a Dawid Does Tech Stuff quote: "It's like taking a blade to a kitten's face."

@deadlift9360 Год назад

If it gets too hot it literally melts, amazing. truely a fluent designe!

@johnjames7332 10 месяцев назад

I'm impressed, pretty good engineering there. Steve typically overshoots with his sarcasm and wisdom but that's his shtick

@HAunderscoreVE Год назад

In this episode of ''Dissapointing Steve'', intel finds a way to make steve both dissapointed and angry.

@slaytronic Год назад

it's not his fault he is a drama queen it's just how he was born and raised

@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Год назад

@@slaytronic On the contrary he trained at many dojos and adventured around the world to hone those skills.

@soupwizard Год назад

27:12 I wonder if the card physical design complications were done for a $700 card since they were aiming for the performance and mining-era prices for 3070 cards; now that prices have dropped and the A7 performance is being positioned against the 3060 the amount of extra in the design isn't appropriate for the price it's being sold at today.

@fridaycaliforniaa236 Год назад

I laughed during the whole video. Thanks, steve =)

@chrisliddiard725 Год назад

All those screws are there to prevent this thing from resonating to the point of rattling at certain fan speeds. It will be interesting to see what those fan speeds look like and if the GPU remained quiet after reassembly. All those different screw sizes is sloppy though. And what's with the 8-pin & 6-pin connectors?

@ardeof Год назад

Shoutout to Steve for knowing the importance of prying at the connections via flathead (or some other device) rather than simply yanking the cable.

@mrbub8980 Год назад

Well this card's going to be fun to maintenance for some people.

@charleshines8523 Год назад

It is nice they tried to keep the cost down anyhow. Graphics cards don't always need to be expensive. They DO however need to last some expected time frame!!

@nov2263 Год назад

Had this card for 4 months now, and It performs VERY well. The only thing is that they've focused so much on DX12 that older games (some I must say as I've played DX11 & DX10 (and even games like GTA:SA) games that work perfectly good) might not perform very well, but then again I don't play much of these. The memory size is very nice to have, games do utilize it even if it doesn't max out on cards with less memory on the same settings, which speeds up rendering alot and gives more FPS. Never had thermal issues, and never planned on taking it apart.

@angerthosenear_yt Год назад

I can't imagine the build cost of this thing - those crazy PCBs and insane assembly.

@MrJamesonStyles Год назад

And they pass that cost onto us! The folks who they would really like to find enough cost competitive advantage with ARC to buy it instead of Nvidia or AMD, both of whom are launching much better cards soon in this price range. Botched. Kinda. Maybe Intel doesn't super care about making money on this generation.

@theSato Год назад

@@MrJamesonStyles ?? This is cost competitive in many ways, on DX12/modern games. $289 is a hell of a deal.

@LiveType Год назад

@@theSato Yep, just goes to show what crazy margins Nvidia targets. Intel is at basically zero margin for these cards.

@_--_--_ Год назад

@@theSato Not when comparing to a 6600xt, which is cheaper, and has good drivers, and is significantly faster in a lot of games.

@mikerzisu9508 Год назад

@@_--_--_ AMD fanboi detected. The Intel Arc is absolutely a strong competitor to AMD equivalents in every way... only exception is driver maturity which will improve quickly. ATI card drivers were absolute shit for quite a while when they first entered the market.

@japmuscle Год назад

Thanks Steve!

@mjc0961 Год назад

That gag at the start with the giant RTX card (probably 4090) in front was great 😂

@mjc0961 Год назад

Oh my god, "thank you papa" is going to be a new meme I can't 🤣

@Enakaji Год назад

Seeing just how complicated the teardown of this one was really makes me appreciate the way more servicable Design of the Gigabyte Gaming OC RX 6600 XT and PNY XLR8 3060ti on wich I did a deepclean and repaste a few weeks ago. On both you basically only had to remove the screws you could see on the Backplate to seperate the Cooler from the card and then like four to six additional screws to separate the Finstack from the Fanshroud. There really is no need to overcomplicate it like Intel did here with their Reference design.

@RealStuntPanda Год назад

I was so excited to hear the Intel Arc A770 was coming out... back in 2012.

@christiankrueger8048 Год назад

Thank you!

@EraYaN Год назад

The threaded inserts are one of the better ways to screw things into plastic. They can handle a surprisingly large load especially the ones for injection molding.

@RealLatinGeek Год назад

Also they're serviceable. You can get away with self-tapping screws into plastic if you only plan to put the thing together once.

@mr.equity1120 Год назад

Large Load 😂

@flyingrichie Год назад

Please never stop the quick cuts to "Thanks Steve"

@josephwimerYoYoYo Год назад

Pretty well made for an entry into the market! As much as I agree with your complaints about design, I'm VERY curious what can be done with board partners, future iterations, etc. Honestly the build quality seems on par with intel MB's I've worked with. Steve OF COURSE I want to see you water cool it! Heheh.

@gl_tonight 10 месяцев назад

I really would recommend using the two-step articlean. It does help emulsify the thermal paste and also treat the surfaces against flash oxidization. It's a diminishing returns thing for a single tear-down but it really is a boon for repeated builds. a couple drops do it. I've serviced dozens of servers with 30ml and have like 70% left.

@nommindymple6241 Год назад

If I remember correctly, you took apart one of their NUCs a while back and were really impressed with how good and intelligent the build was. I guess they didn't carry that process over to their GPUs. You'd think that a company trying to break into a well-established market dominated by another player (or two) would pay attention to best practices and things Steve has said in the past (Thanks, Steve!). Also, is there any reason to re-install that thin, aluminum plate you took off first? The card actually looks better without it and the open air ought to drop the temperature a bit.

@eclipsegst9419 Год назад

To be fair, these choices don't affect most consumers, who will never even repaste their card, and they had to cut costs when they realized they were competing with the 3060 not the 3070 I'm sure.

@Junya01 Год назад

@@eclipsegst9419 you're right. As a budget gamer looking to build my first PC soon with an Rx 6600, this Intel GPU may very well be a viable upgrade path for me, we'll have to see down the line

@eclipsegst9419 Год назад

@@Junya01 it's not much faster than the 6600, I would get one or the other. I myself am trying to debate between 6600xt and a770. I'm curious to see what kind of performance gains the first few driver updates bring. But, 6700xt is getting cheaper by the day too. I would love to help keep a 3rd competitor in the market though.

@KainYusanagi Год назад

Re: the plate, to prevent dust buildup maybe?

@Overloaded45 Год назад

for all we know the teams that worked on their NUCs are different and might not have anything to do with the ARC GPU teams. Its like that most of the time on these big companies.

@tyswid Год назад

I like the white table, especially with the dark card. Any plans for a "light mode" modmat, maybe not for full scale production but at least as a RU-vid piece

@GamersNexus Год назад

It's actually an entire lightbox! Haha, it illuminates and has RGB and everything. We do have ideas for future modmats!

@BBWahoo Год назад

@@GamersNexus I'd love to draw and fix up my sketches on that light box! Looks beautiful, just like you papa ❤

@bofast Год назад

I was not expecting load bearing tape on the fan assembly, but here we are

@MegaCazzam Год назад

“Thanks Steve ow my knees” had me rolling in laughter 😂

@thecomfyshirt Год назад

I’ve seen some truly baffling tear-downs on this channel. But this one… we’ll I wouldn’t say it takes the cake, but it’s certainly memorable. When I saw those custom PCBs for the LEDs… my lawd… Screwless indeed

@riven4121 Год назад

I would pay good money for a Steve uncensored video where he just goes off.

@xJAKEx117x Год назад

A screwless design with more screws than an entire assembled PC in some cases... Nice, thanks Intel, and thanks Steve, and thank you Gamers Nexus. Fun video as always.

@Sharkie1717 Год назад

Steve: "You see this thing?" Camera Focus: Aight. Im'ma head out.

@st0nedpenguin Год назад

Intel may be realizing that hiring the guy that tanked AMD's GPU division to run their new GPU division could not have been the best idea ever.

@hastyscorpion Год назад

How does anything in this video have any bearing on whether or not this piece so equipment functions well as a graphics card. You aren’t taking it on hikes. .01 percent of people are taking apart their graphics cards at any point in their life. That is way beyond an enthusiast thing to do. The conclusion at the end is so strained. The thing that actually matters is the price to performance ratio. And pretending like “too many 5 cent leds” hurts that is laughable.

@st0nedpenguin Год назад

@@hastyscorpion This is the teardown video. It is not a review.

@Bill_Falsename Год назад

@@hastyscorpion Because sometimes you have to get in to clean, to redo thermal paste, to replace borked and failing fans all to avoid shelling out better than half a weeks takehome pay just to keep playing the games that keep me sane.

@chankwanting Год назад

@@Bill_Falsename You're in the .01 percent Hastyscorpion mentioned because normal users aren't going to "get in to clean, to redo thermal paste, to ...".

@trickster562 Год назад

@@chankwanting I consider myself a normal user but I had to fix an issue with my old Asus 980 Strix where the fan had to be slightly adjusted because it was making contact with the fins. It was very easy to take apart and access the fans and remove those, and since it was open I went ahead and redid the paste. It doesn't take a .01 user to want to fix an issue that is as simple as a bent fan fin. I would also assume a normal user wouldn't want to replace an entire GPU just because of an issue as simple as that.

@TheNiteNinja19 Год назад

Repasting one of these in a year or two are going to be an absolute nightmare

@gueneal Год назад

Dropped the driver like a pro! Linus would be proud!

@GodlikeIridium Год назад

"Thanks Intel" Editor: Epic meme. Multiple times! Gives the editor a raise xD

@TalismanAirsoft Год назад

Thank you for the video papa! Also something worth mentioning... The RMA team is going to have ptsd dreams about tape and jst headers. Repair gate keeping via poor design accessibility is stupid on so many levels.

@caramelldansen2204 Год назад

That's the _workers'_ problem. As long as shareholders are happy, anything goes!

@GamerErman2001 Год назад

@@caramelldansen2204 Workers: Hey this design is pretty bad can you change it before production? Shareholders: Oh my! It needs more RGBs! Add this now!

@waade395 Год назад

For those that want to find the papa reference, it's at 9:30 in the intel keynote. And it's really weird

@angrymokyuu9475 Год назад

You're assuming they'll attempt repairs. This looks like the sort of thing where any replacements go into the bin. Internal repairability will probably be a concern only when designing the next gen if there's more failures than anticiptated.

@chrisliddiard725 Год назад

That nudge "Thank you pappa" - shows how well they understand their market. Intel's idea is that fathers buy GPUs for their Sons. When the truth is those sons and daughters buy GPUs for themselves.

@jtb3797 Год назад

a lot of double-sided tape like that, starts becoming unadered at higher temperatures commonly seen inside pcs. I'm curious as to how it's going to hold up over time

@PinkFZeppelin Год назад

Not if done properly. Cars have lots of adhesives. Entire body panels held on with them. My comma 3 is held up with 3m vhb and records temps up 70c as its in the windshield. Other users that live in hot climates have reported higher.

@noyfb4769 Год назад

@@PinkFZeppelin Well floyd and zep tapes hold up better than everything produced since, and the manufacturing process probably entailed everything BUT glue.

@Noah-lj2sg Год назад

cool table setup

@MikeysPsyche Год назад

I was not ready for the "Thank you Papa.... Yeah" lmfao

@JensTX Год назад

I gotta give intel credit where it's due, this is the first time I've seen Torx screws being used(structurally) in a GPU

@seculi7757 Год назад

It`s because only advanced people understand Torx.

@CSagan710 Год назад

Coming next: Gamebit screws!

@infernaldaedra Год назад

OEM GPUs would like to have a word lol

@MrMagichobo21 Год назад

@@infernaldaedra they're produced in such volume that the practical benefits of a torx type drive (longer tool life and tool can spin before it is at full depth) make it necessary, or at least worth the trouble to swap tools from whatever was already in the machines, due to economies of scale

@GamersNexus Год назад

NVIDIA and AMD both have used them for a few generations now.

@BoostedBill96 Год назад

Please never stop the “Thanks Steve” I laugh literally every time

@alanmoore78 Год назад

Incidentally, I searched that fan part number and got only one search result, the entire fan assemblies with both fans included for $39.14 on Aliexpress, listed as for A750 GPUs, so I assume then that same part is used for both A750 and A770 models.

@snipermerc Год назад

Hey Steve, suggestion on cleaning off thermal grease. Use Charcoal Lighter Fluid, it will actually melt the thermal grease, even if hardened and doesn't leave any residue. Works far better than isopropyl. Been using it for 25 years on puter builds.

@aeueeaia Год назад

1. love the hidden Intel card getting picked up from behind the 4090 2. nice desk top!!! Is that underlit glass? Love that

@yourapeeinguy8263 Год назад

well ya know, i think its super cool to see someone else gettin into the GPU scene. I hope they keep gettin better

@razorblade7108 Год назад

It won't take much effort getting better than that at least

@yourapeeinguy8263 Год назад

@@razorblade7108 lol, ouch. I mean at least they are being realistic with themselves and pricing it accordingly and being honest about its performance.