Hero Talents RANKED: The Best & Worst (TWW Beta) 

Good vid but i would suggest using youtube chapter feature. That would be great :) makes things more easy for ppl that look for infos to a specific class/spec/herotalent 😊

0:15 diabolist warlock 1:27 frostfire mage 2:38 voidweaver priest 4:05 templar paladin 5:24 scalecomando evoker 6:10 best moment 6:36 pack leader hunter 7:41 KotG druid 8:58 all rogues talents

I thought the whole point of hero talents is to lean into specific "fantasies"... They certainly knock it out the park with some specs... but some of them might as well Just be in the regular tree.

I dont play hunter, but i think a good change would be to buff your pet and give it a visual. so hunters would put some more thought into their pet selection if they transformed in different ways. Also boomie shouldnt spawn trees, they should spawn little moonkins that fire moonfire spells that absolutely nuke.

Just fyi on pack leader: not only is it absolutely horrible aesthetically, half the tree is horribly bugged and doesn’t work lol

aldrachi reaver is a big loser IMO. The class fantasy just isnt there ando also makes the rotation more complex wich isn very fun at all.

I agree i'm very disappointed to the rogue hero talents. Rogue has been my main at the start of every expansion i've played and seems like TWW is gonna be the first one where it's not.

I agree with all of these. The warlock, mage and priest (clothies!) Are my top 3 contenders. If dracthyr were not stuck in their draconic form i would like them so much more.

As a rogue main I have a suspicion in which category its hero specs will end up. 😭

as a rogue main, i totally agree. Every spec feels like unfinished and underwhelming.... nothing is going on, not a single exiting button to press, no visuals

Im bm hunter since Legion and seeing this dont suprise me at all. Hunters were always at the bottom when it comes fun to play. Our spells, visual gameplay was always poor even f spell ability icons r same copy paste and that says, tells something. I dont think we will get rework of it because they dont care about hunter and they never did care.

Diabolist warlock is the most fun version of demonoligist warlock and ive been a demo lock since vanilla. I greatly enjoy the diabolist tree

"Hammer of light" has no hammer. Only light😂😂😂

I am a warlock player and also more than happy with the diabolist tree, though one thing i should point out; The demons coming out from the hero talent only buffs/change some of your spells but dont change anytthing rotational wise.

As a life-long Hunter, I COMPLETELY agree with your section on Pack Leader. It's so irrelevant and meaningless.

as a main rogue OTP since classic, im so fking depressed. planning to play Survi hunt / WW monk and fuck it

Outlaw Rogue is horrible, its normal talent tree and gameplay isnt even fun on its own cant even be played properly without weakaura

It all seems very AOE so M+ looks what blizz are looking to grow even more next expansion.

3rd expac where rogue geta shafted. Time to change main. Retri here I come.

You may be the only content creator that is actually pronouncing Diabolist correctly. 👏🏼

Hunter, rogue, shaman, warrior are the loosers. No flair, no interesting talents nor visuals.

You mean... Dia-booolist 😄

6:10 LOL, another great video, thanks Vesp!

Blizzard helping hunters ... Yeah that'll happen.

He forgot Shaman just like Blizzard did lmfao

I still hate that people think BM hunter should be about summoning loads of pets, the point of a beast master was always having an insanely strong pet not swamping the field with weak pets, leave that to demonology warlock imp summoning. What BM hunter needed was for duel pet to become optional on the side but not integral to the spec and the focus to be on the pet getting more skills / damage / utility, have the hero talent tree for it be more like the old pet talent tree with abilities / buffs that work with / replace parts of the pets tool kit.

bald xdd

Some of these hero talents are so tame, it's like they were designed on napkins. At an airport. Wildstalker should be a Guardian-Resto combo, where popping out vines has little to do with the Feral tree.

I'm hoping diabolist afliction will be fun!!

As a rogue main i am deeply disappointed.

hmm, thought there were more than 8 classes Susge

Such a L for hunters… maybe they should stop spend the whole time on 2 classes ( mage warlock going through multiple iterations…) and spend more time on other classes…. Or better hire more devs Hunter is big disappointment not gonna play this expansion

as a shadow priest im am loveing voidwever

I've been watching various streamers and have been questioning whether these hero talents are really so super. Because the streamers rave about it as if it were some amazing discovery and evolve wow. In the end, I installed the beta. What was my disappointment when it turned out to be a baseline that could be added in the form of 3 additional talents in the current tree. And actually everything works on a passive basis without contributing anything to the game or rotation. I don't understand the hape. I am very disappointed.

What about warriors, dks, etc?

I watched the video and I don't agree with what you say about the hunter. Why is it a problem if the rotation does not change and it is easy to play with it? You say the bm hunter hero talent has become boring. Not everyone spends half of their life in front of wow, but still wants to relax and enjoy being able to produce high dps in a simple way.

So definitely not all since u showed 0 monk so here take my thumbs down

I just wish that some Hero Talent tree gave us a specc enhancement like Legion Shadow Priest used to work. That spec was so fun and I was incredibly sad when I returned only to find that they clipped the Shadow Priest's wings like that. Maybe one day

I've been a BM main for many expansions and while I appreciate the rework there just isn't enough "oomph" to Packleader. For the first time I'll be switching to Mage since you can never go wrong with Blizzards love child 😂

Dk and arcane mage got insane love Afflock and monks too Surprised they did not get mentionned (for healers prevo feels insane and almost all feel good)

tbh I like dark ranger and sentinel, pack leader needs a fix, but I hope it won't be an army of pets, game has enough pets as it is, pvp targetting is horrendus xD

Haven't seen the video, hopefully any dps warrior spec takes a w🙏

sub and sin rogues are deeply f***ed for TWW:/

First i think! Love your content man, keep it up

I honestly think hero talents should have none or almost none damage component to them, and should just lean in to fantasy/visual aspects of the class.

dh havoc not here so it sucks or?

Thx for good vids, almost nobody talks about Dh havoc, just complain about bad bad hero talent that it, any chance you going to make a video about it?

Cascade from priest look cool back there, idk why blizzard got rid of it :(

Any insights on Dark Ranger? I know you said hunters got shafted (lol) in general, but I haven't seen much anywhere on the Dark Ranger.

wich race is your lock? Mine is undead, and im thinking to level an orc quickly before TWW releases, it keeps haunting my mind lol

How can I upgrade the beta characters to lv 80? Do I have to lvl them up on my own or is there an instant upgrade? Thanks

Hearing the rogue feedback, sad. Do i come back still hmm

Treants for boomy should cast insect swarm and it should increase the damage of your dots or something

No love for monks?

Death Knight hero talents are not that good? I didn't saw them in the video at all

Im surprised you didn't mention Unholy dk's as well. They are so well made with both San'layan and Deathbringer. But your top I'm in big agreement with, Daibolist, voidweaver, and frostfire are amazing and well put together

I wanted to hear more about the druid specs. Gotta wait for the tier list i guess.

Oh, why you must put Rogue into thumbnail as worst? Why? 🤣🤣

Whats the name of your nameplates? There is a profile to it?

Hi, is it true that all existing characters will be deleted once we buy The War Within expansion and that you'll need to start fresh? Thank you.

with the rework the Survival ones are good now and make sense

Im pretty sure blizz will fix rogue, Druid etc. because they can’t leave it be how these talents are rn. If they don’t fix them… oh boy ima be a dk main again

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What nameplates addon are you using?

Anyone have any idea what nameplate addon this is? If it's plater, what profile is he using?

Actual jumpscare seeing someone else using my own name @ 06:45 It's not an original name by any means but it's disorienting enough that it's the only thing I took away from this video. o7

Slayer warrior is a very clear winner as well

Wow! What a fantastic video VesperalTV! Really useful for someone like me that doesn't have time to test all the hero talents for myself because of my job and Wife keeping me so busy! Speaking of I'm going to have to dip here while you're talking about Boomy but I'm gonna be maining rogue in TWW and I can't wait, I've only heard positive things about them on the beta so its gonna be a WOLLOP expansion as you would say! Hoping to see more content like this from you in the future!

Blizzard really hates Hunters

Spellslinger not being in the top 3 feels criminal at best, and catastrophically comical at worst 😅

Am I blind or did I miss DH?

How do WW monks feel?

Where is Havoc

Thoughts on Havoc Demon Hunter?? This was a great video!

no DH ?

Loved the video earned my sub 100%

what about DH? i didnt see it in the video

ty for this video , all in one video and a short one , like it alot! very informative

Really great breakdown! Thank you!

I gotta say it's sad hero talents are gunna exist. I mean look at this mess. You have warlock and Spriest getting these cool and pretty nice gameplay hero talents... and then you flip the coin and play Hunter/rogue/KotG druid and you just like dang these classes suck. also the balancing nightmare this will be in the long run of the game knowing blizzard some hero talents will just be brushed off to the side and never touched again after awhile. Its not even fun like blizzard is literally killing its player base by Meta defining certain classes and people who play the ones that arent meta or just got pooped on gameplay wise they just get benched until blizz decides its there time to shine which in wow shouldnt be the case! Every class should succeed and feel fun and playable. not just 5-6 classes feeling fun and the rest are sitting there wishing they could have the same enjoyment the meta classes are having. Games really starting to be unfun because if i wanna do anything i pretty much have to play meta and thats just boring constantly having to swap what class ill play season to season rather then playing the 1 class i think is the most fun and is the one i love to main. And yes i know you have the freedom to play what you want but the 2nd biggest issue is the community (well atleast if u are solo premading) will not allow you. If you are not a meta spec or ur class makes a key take 2 minutes longer they will decline you and you will have to que for hrs and hrs before finally someone decides to take you all because i want to play a non meta class that i love. why would i waste my time queing for hours when i could just swap to meta and be insta taken in like 5 minutes. so sure i could play my main but having shorter ques seems better in the long run then actually enjoying my class just so i can get the rewardies.

My first thought when i tested to Boomie talents was "wtf how is this even going to be good with so bad treants we have?" And oh boy was i right... I imagine this keep of the grove thingy would fit alot better with mist of pandaria version of treants where you had 3 charges of treants and they spammed Wrath when you summon them, and they would cast entangling roots on summon aswell. Thematically that made sense in my head, but this melee swinging long cooldown tre-ants with a taunt is just pure garbage and its not fun at all.

This is why its always funny when people recommend retail over Classic. Classic are finished expansions with good class gameplay and retail just ends up struggling every expansion and firing class-designers left and right because they have no idea what to do. Druid class dev left during DF beta and it was shit for so long. Like they genuinely just have no idea what to do with half the classes and if ur unlucky you're stuck with a shit class for a whole expansion. Why anyone would pay for that is mind boggling