I Think A Lot Of People Are Wrong About Targeted Redaction...

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Targeted Redaction is a hidden gem to me and it can be Targeted (HA) by craft. I fell in love with it for two main reasons. One of them has to do with the mid-range shakeup at the end of the month. I know where a lot of players find an issue with it and that is the 3rd column. I don't have that same issue with what I am doing with it. In this video, I talk about what is important and what to be thinking about when you craft it.
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@CoolGuyGames Год назад

I do like this one a lot and plan to use it going forward

@skeet3067 Год назад

this weapon feels good, a little worse since the patch a couple of weeks ago but I'm using it with explosive payload and well rounded. it feels great and it might be my favorite 120

@TJW-YT Год назад

Was this made before the change to recoil that makes it not feel as much like Spare anymore? Because I agreed, it FELT great. But since the change it’s not the same.

@BigBootyGod Год назад

Do a video about how underused arc titan cloud strike immortal load out is AND antaeus and conditional 👀

@JeighNeither Год назад

I'm with you, always liked it, even after collective action was nerfed.

@garrettdollar Год назад

Glad to see CG putting in the work and still reviewing Season of the Deep weapons in the twilight of the season. Thanks for the positive Destiny content!

@PlatinumAssassin Год назад

Definitely appreciate it even if my play time this season has waned as the season wraps up.

@iLLeeTx1 Год назад

This

@KingLeaps Год назад

I’m so glad someone else notices that it’s not terrible. I run it with void Titan because you’re already using your barricade all the time, which recharges your grenade, which you threw at an enemy, which also proks well rounded. Not to mention shoulder charge uses energy now, so you have easy access to the origin trait, which imo, the origin trait makes the gun feel like the best 120 in the game.

@julespaco Год назад

I've been taking advantage of Well-Rounded on Titan with Arbor Warden, as the barri-nade counts as a grenade when thrown, and your class ability cools down in the background while your barri-nade is proc/held which gives it great uptime. Can use it as extra WR trigger on any subclass but it really shines on Strand, as you get the benefit of a throwable barricade w/ a suspend lash, use grapple for best uptime on the grenade and easy to use frequently, and three melee charges for additional movement/another way to proc WR. Also, the Thread of Ascent aspect triggers from barri-nade as well, so you are constantly getting free reload for equipped weapon and bonus AE. I honestly have not tried it with Targeted Redaction yet, but plan to recraft and pair with Chappy (use rally cade to get the boost range, throw cade, suspend target, slide toward cade and map with slug SG).

@CreationsVibration Год назад

Igneous Hammer: "and I took that personally.."

@julespaco Год назад

@@CreationsVibration haha yeah IH Adept is and likely will always be the 120 GOAT

@Gr4veM1nd Год назад

Something I really like about the weapons this season are how they're the polar opposite damage type of the returning Gambit Prime weapons. The only exception is here with Targeted Redaction and Spare Rations, I think. It's a nice detail.

@iponce2 Год назад

I figured it was because the weapons are taken themed, so they all have darkness elements. Targeted redaction being the only light elemental weapon, but being void, added to this for me because void light used to be considered a taboo for guardians to use. By the time our player guardian came around in d1, the stigma was gone, but it's come up a few times still. That was my takeaway, at least

@drewjackson6403 Год назад

dont worry bungie didnt consider or think of any of thatt

@joshuaroman6479 Год назад

Weapon feel really is so important. All the best perks in the world are useless if the gun doesn't click with you. It's why I've never really understood the appeal of Bottom Dollar, but absolutely love Round Robin. Both great hand cannons, but it comes down to preference for me.

@WrathNebula321 Год назад

Targeted is one of my favorite void hand cannons with Outlaw + Destabilizing Rounds for PvE, especially on a Gyrfalcon Hunter, constant invis, even without Gyrfalcon's Volatile Rounds active, I had so much fun with it. And it might even be better with the changes coming next season, definitely looking forward to it.

@nicgara8781 Год назад

With destabilizing rounds, this turns into a mini void sunshot in pve against the weaker enemies.

@tyrantworm7392 Год назад

Yeah, I hate having to run destablising in PVE though, which feels necessary this season on lock. Last season we had the artifact to help us out as first season post wells, but in harder content uptime is generally lower than it was with wells. I just don't see a reason to be void over arc this season.

@fotis3v480 Год назад

Voidshot 😂

@nazarus1283 Год назад

@@tyrantworm7392void lock is and always will be a powerhouse in pve, but yeah arc this season is SPICEY with that DR while amped and the artifact mod that causes arc explosions on top of the ones you can already do

@qtipsy5707 Год назад

😎🤫

@mickwadbackwash340 Год назад

I feel so validated for coming to the Perfect Float/Explosive Payload conclusion on my own. It's easy to think of PF as a AE perk but anti flinch is pretty dope too

@RonaldMcJuicy Год назад

I wish this gun had Keep Away in the third slot. I'd probably never take the weapon off if it did.

@AceInTheSpade Год назад

I think shot swap and perfect float are underrated on this. People forget that Perfect float gives you a massive 35% flinch resistance increase just by being in combat for 6 seconds which could be great in 1v2 or 1v3 situations. Shotswap is basically free 100 handling giving 2 stacks per kill and goes up to 8 stacks so in theory you could keep it up en entire match since you only lose 1 stack per swap.

@humanactivated1017 Год назад

Thats too complicated to watch , its too much work ahooting and then counting shot swaps and stuff

@arty111 Год назад

Getaway artist. This gun on arclock is absolutely insane. Arc souls will clean up 2 shots from a 120 more often than not. You use amplified lightning ball (you’re already amped from getaway artist and now you have 210 damage on a melee ability) and just cycle all three abilities, keep an arc soul up, constantly have boosted stats. Definitely one of the best loadouts I’ve used in the last year

@treyrandall2983 Год назад

Steady hand? I got 80 range 80 stability and outlaw for reload... Feels like a dream.

@Trevoroxx Год назад

My current favourite hand cannon, been using it all season (and the taken shotgun in kinetic slot) with well rounded + keep away. I love the playstyle of the taken weapons that you blow your wad and then get a power increase (as opposed to feeling weak and waiting on abilities). Taken guns are so aggressive and i love thst playstyle.

@noobjnh Год назад

This roll got me my first lighthouse on Strand hunter. Absolutely smacks.

@vitor0tritto Год назад

Never got used to the Spare model or feel but I am making an effort to wrap my head around this one. Kinda love it even though I'm still missing a lot of shots. Feels like it there's a version of it that could pair greatly with Traveler's Chosen and your Verity's Magnetic Grenade build. Thanks for that, btw, mr.coolguy :)

@Zacharadus 10 месяцев назад

The Unsated Hunger origin trait has got to be one of my all-time favorites at this point. It's so easy to proc and it makes any gun that has it feel so stinkin' good.

@gryphon123456 Год назад

I have been using a true prophecy I had in my vault with Opening shot & timed payload. It has really surprised me how well it duals at range. Was playing on equinox and downing people I probably should have lost against. It flinches so much!

@xSoulShine Год назад

Unsated Hunger is such a strong weapon trait, especially on a 120 because it boost the worst drawbacks of the weapon. If this one could roll Keep Away + Explosive it would be my #1 pick.

@themortreport Год назад

I love this thing. As someone who's played regularly since D2's launch, this is the first hand cannon that felt right to me, even more so than my few adept Igneous Hammers. I do fell silly for being a grapple hunter a lot and not thinking about well rounded, it's usually just an instant shard perk to me

@sovokh6797 Год назад

I was theory crafting and came to the same conclusions, being able to cause massive flinch to your opponent via explosive payload while *you* get flinch resistance from perfect float just seems like a good deal, and back when igneous was still available, arguments were still made for bottom dollar in the fact of explosive payload!

@graysonbrooker3287 Год назад

Great video! Just something i noticed. When using d2 foundry you can select enhanced intrinsics instead of a masterwork to factor in the extra 2 stats from level 20, just incase you didn't know.

@Votrae Год назад

I love how you can find real value in atypical picks. I agree that this tidy frame and visual recoil feels great in 120 trim.. which is basically the opposite of Loud Lullaby/Round Robin.

@Splungus Год назад

I have a love/hate relationship with this gun. It took me several reshapes to find what worked for me and I found it frustrating to use at times. Then they nerfed its recoil because it was actually bugged, which made it harder to use the gun. I ultimately settled for a stability masterwork with fluted barrel since I was taking advantage of well rounded and keep away to buff my range up to about 90. My round robin has a similar split, so I guess I have a stat preference.

@GavinGGaming Год назад

Well rounded-Keep Away on a strand hunter feels soooo good

@TJW-YT Год назад

Slideshot/Iron Grip Steady Hand has higher raw stats than True Prophecy by the way. You can hit 75 in one and 65 in the other without even factoring in Slideshot.

@FrostReach66 Год назад

I’ve been using it and I love it. It feels really, really good, unlike a lot of 120s I’ve used. I know they “fixed” its recoil a bit ago, but to me it still feels great. Just get well rounded proced and you’re beaming. A play could be made for shot swap too. I personally use keep away but explosive payload may be the preferred option for a lot of people.

@deniswith1n Год назад

Love this gun. Even with my adept Igneous Hammers I got this past weekend I’m still loving this gun with well rounded and keep away, then when you get unsated hunger going it’s nasty.

@Jamesssssssssssssss Год назад

I have been jokingly calling it my crafted Bottom Dollar, E-Well Rounded and E-FocusFury are amazing together. Have close to 500 pvp kills on it already.

@EmilBork Год назад

Basically: "Hey PvPers, not everything has to be Igneous for it to be good". Great video CG.

@highfather8312 Год назад

I love this gun. I'm more PVE focused. But I run mine with destabilizing rounds and triple-tap. I pair it with a crafted regnant grenade launcher with repulsor brace and I can just tear through deep-dives, salvage, NF, Master LS, etc.. Grab a last wish and you're good-to-go. Lot's of survivability and big boom booms.

@Gearshifter09 Год назад

I run Outlaw and Keepaway on this thing and I absolutely adore it. I didn't even realize people didnt like it

@SpizzieNizzie Год назад

Strong way to abuse well-rounded as a perk is Arc Titan with knockout. Every knockout-empowered punch will give you a stack of well-rounded.

@the_jokers_wild Год назад

I crafted mine with well rounded and keep away to benefit from my stasis lock build and its so damn good. Fell back in love with 120s at the start of lightfall

@danperkins4781 Год назад

YEEES COOLGUY! We see legitimately eye to eye 1. Gun just *feels* amazing. This was slightly nerfed when they fixed its recoil pattern to that of a 120, but still good 2. Explosive Payload on a 120. It is good and primed to be better 3. The thing can be a stat MONSTER, and has multiple truly S-Tier Builds: -- Well Rounded Facade Grapple camp Spam Hunter. You have Well Rounded x2 up at all times, along with the grapple = handling fragment buff up at all times, Along with Flinch Resist and Woven Mail(!) at all times. This build is comically good. ESPECIALLY since I already love the FEEL of it! -- Ability Spam Void Hunter. This build focus around constantly keeping your abilities at zero to proc the origin trait. Buffs Stability and Handling at all times. It really feels good and theres a couple ways you can go about it. Dragons Shadow Invisibility spam is Really freaking good. Like REALLY GOOD! Theres also Gemini Jester + Perfect Float. The Jester proc makes it so easy to stay "in combat" for perfect float. Now you've got perfect float up a lot alongside the origin Trait. These are two S-Tier Builds. I have TWO Fully Crafted Targeted Redactions! The thing is a beast. And these were just quick summations. Each build could be a 8 minute video.

@ForTheViolence Год назад

I think you are right. People aren’t using this correctly. They think it’s just igneous hammer. But it’s more specialized than that.

@chloec4009 Год назад

I've crafted it but just not leveled it enough yet. It is also just satisfying to me having a gambit gun with a taken reskin, with a reckoning ornament, and a gambit memento on it.

@snailfail115 Год назад

No one mentions this, but the best thing about the spare model is that it's the most gun looking gun. It looks RIGHT.

@NuclearRizzicist Год назад

The Taken weapons are slept on, everyone looks at stats first and foremost and decides "oh, youtube will tell me if its worth it". Not sure why most people don't try something before passing judgment, glad to see youre covering these still.

@crabbypatty10fefrefe Год назад

I agree. I like this gun. I was using Explosive Payload at first but, Enhanced Keep Away feels so good.

@fatgoatee9006 Год назад

I historically hate handcannons. But this gun is just butter. The origin trait is what really does it for me. Been running well rounded and keep away. Just so solid.

@kitanat9944 Год назад

My personal favorite is my Chambered comp/Hammerforged, Accurized, Slideshot, EP, and Range MW. 60+ stability and 100+ range and reload on slides. So good, and I really hope they don’t powercreep Igneous Hammer. They’ve explicitly stated that they prefer to make stat monsters have more mediocre perks, but it’s hard to say with comp and trials weapons.

@NatMage Год назад

I've seen very little D2 content recently since I stopped playing mid-WQ but I just wanna say I really appreciate people like you still focusing on the fun and good things in the game

@failfurby Год назад

As a Hunter PvE main, I LOVE this Hand Cannon. It's purely a feel thing, I am aware. But, Gyrfalcon can make any Void weapon go BRRRRRRRR and Lucky Pants can do the same with any Hand Cannon. If Hand Cannons become PvE meta again, and frankly even if they are just ok, you will want to have this in your back pocket.

@chrisa4627 Год назад

That was me TheYesAndTheYall at around 2:05. I haven't watched as much d2tube recently but I always appreciated your even-handed style, cheers CoolGuy

@benf1851 Год назад

120 handcannons have always been my guilty pleasure weapons. Bottom Dollar, Igneous Hammar, True Prophecy, Round Robin, and even Duke mk 44. Loved and used then all even though they've almost always been outclassed by 140s.

@alexbarkf666 Год назад

Dang! I was in the last lobby on this vid. Definitely trying the targeted redaction next! Just crafted! Love your vids! Keep up the good work!

@DukeofHearl Год назад

@CoolGuyGames I agree. I built mine with well rounded and keep away and abuse it on my strand hunter. maybe the negative hate is that it is kind of niche in some ways, but where it fits, it feels really really good ESPECIALLY with the ornament.

@MaximumCarter Год назад

I listened to everyone about Redaction as well. Just picked one up with Destabilizing Rounds and I figured why not give it a shot since Destabilizing Rounds works well with my build. Turns out that I love it and yeah... it feels really good.

@Kon-910 Год назад

Everyone talked about Collective Action when the season dropped. I didn't even know it rolled with EP

@CrunchyMaggots Год назад

I'm 100% with you. It FEELS incredible to land shots. The low stats hurt so bad though, it's really apparent they wanted us to take advantage of the origin trait since it juices it, but it's so suffering without it that I find it hard to justify.

@GrizzleBearMAK Год назад

I'm not sold on 120 Hand Cannons as a whole right now. That nerf to their damage a while back seemed kinda unnecessary, then we got 120 scouts which have the same damage model but more range and DMT and Long Arm have better close range capabilities with Hip-fire perks. And with Warden's Law and the new archetype coming next season, they're gonna have the old pre-nerf 120 damage model. So we'll have 2 different weapon archetypes that do what 120 hand cannons do, but better.

@benvitek5421 Год назад

I overlooked this gun and am so sad I did. I just crafted it last week with well rounded and keep away. I can’t wait to get explosive payload. I’ve been running this with Solar ahamkara tripmine hunter and the loop makes this thing insane. Since you are constantly hitting people with grenades and melees, well-rounded is always active and you get grenade energy back to constantly keep it up. You use your dodge to immediately get max handling and reload. Then you’re out of abilities and it prok’s the origin trait to improve stability even more. It feels like an absolute stat freak with this build

@namelessgamer3168 Год назад

I absolutely love my outlaw, keep away redaction! Still leveling my crafted and might change it a little, but probably not much, just balancing stats better I'd imagine

@queencrimson4750 Год назад

I started in season of the deep and targeted redaction was one of the first weapons I masterworked just cause it looked cool, glad to know those resources weren't a total waste and I can use my masterworked shitroll until I can craft

@jonathanritco9861 Год назад

Had a blast with this weapon on strand. Well-rounded mixed with keep away you had godly range great stability and pretty snappy. 👍🏻

@theta-rx2 Год назад

Fully agree here, I'm probably gonna go for the well-rounded and EP combo since I do strand quite a bit, and all the void classes make plenty of use out of both grenade and melee (wombos, etc.). Its just a very satisfying weapon and people sometimes get too hung up on the ttk part, but like, there is more to weapons than that, and this is a great example.

@mangokin9506 Год назад

the well-rounded perk with strand hunter/arbor warden titan is amazing

@nZoot Год назад

I love it. I crafted one with well rounded, keep away for my warlocks ozy build since i always start an engagement with a nade

@fryler5865 Год назад

Okay, so last 2 days i gave this HC a shot. Im in love. I wasn't going to craft this. But it feels so damn good. Sometimes you gotta set Iggy down and try new things.

@chrisgourley3382 Год назад

This might be a decent replacement for my Rangefinder/Explosive True Prophecy once they decouple zoom.

@GloverGaming3 Год назад

Nice timing with this video. Xur currently has a True Prophecy with OF + EP. Just missing a good MW

@blvckreaper462 Год назад

I like it too. I like the feel of it period. As a 120 I deleted my gambit cannon after shooting this.

@Xenocide971 8 месяцев назад

Also finding out this pairs really well with a void Titan with no backup plans

@Data-AnalystSera Год назад

Huh! I was actually in the gameplay footage you showed at Endless Vale! That game was TIGHT. I enjoyed it though.

@weabolicious Год назад

The first bottom dollar I ever got was a rangefinder, explosive payload. This was back when 120 were very hot but even now with the rangefinder nerf it still slaps.

@Harry_Fullick Год назад

I love the accuracy boost keep away gives. It helps me land crits well beyond ranges I expect myself to. The day I get a 120 with keep away explosive payload it's staying permanently equipped.

@luimtegger Год назад

I got this and immediately fell in love with it at the beginning of the season. Call me crazy but even though I had the Outlaw/Destabilizing Rounds combo on my first drop I still crafted one anyway with that same combo. Never know when Bungie will will buff or nerf something so having a crafted version of this HC is a safe bet. For me at least. This weapon isn't for everyone and I can respect that.

@jspectre7975 Год назад

I crafted one to get the season kills done and have enjoyed it way more than I thought I would.

@landocalrissian3095 Год назад

2:26 Pure Poetry with Fragile Focus and Elemental Capacitor can hit 88 range with 70 stability. Sadly mine has Perpetual Motion instead of Fragile Focus

@punishedchad8733 Год назад

Explosive payload actually doesn't push out your range. You won't get an 'increase' in total bullet damage (bullet + explosion) UNTIL you reach your minimum damage range.

@wolex3124 Год назад

FYI someone heard the callout, Xur immediately dropped an Explosive Payload True Prophecy

@wizardofaus8457 Год назад

The roll I crafted, well rounded , Keep Away, Accursed and Fluted Barrel has been very enjoyable in crucible. Especially running Devouring Wizard. Give it a try

@Battou62 Год назад

This thing was nuts during the season with double firebolts and the 140 recoil.

@dontbeshady411 Год назад

That first column of perks is brutal.

@kaj413 Год назад

I agree with you, this hand cannon feels great to use. Not sure where the hate comes from, but sometimes it is just individual preference.

@thepurpdoesthework Год назад

All I got to say RIP the recoil change cuz that lightwieght frame recoil was BROKEN GOOD until they patched it. At first ppl were hating this thing and Im here like “MINE HAS 38 STABIL AND IT FEELS LIKE 60 WHAT IS HAPPENING?!?” After tho still feels good but I gotta add more stability to it tho. The spare rations ornament def makes the sight better and feel literally like a 120 spare.

@DuckButter81 Год назад

Well rounded, keep away makes this thing an absolute laser beam.

@pirate_duck4985 Год назад

I actually really like it! Using it in PVE mainly tbf. Smallbore, Steady Rounds, Enhanced Outlaw, Enhanced Destabilising Rounds & I'm pretty sure I went Range MW. It's a really fun HC in PVE, especially on Void Classes!

@notsure1858 Год назад

This roll has surprisingly become my favorite weapon of the season.

@pirate_duck4985 Год назад

@@notsure1858 IKR!! It fits It's roll perfectly & with Unstoppable HC too It's been rather helpful!

@solo_meta Год назад

Targeted Redaction was a miss for me this season, but that’s because I scored a 5/5 Bottom Dollar a few seasons ago. Fluted, Accurized, Range MW, Surplus, EP. 😁

@xLordxHades Год назад

I like this thing a lot. I went Fluted/Accurized/Well Rounded/Keep Away, handling masterwork (I can't stand clunky feeling 120s). The thing just feels great. Not the flashiest of perks, but it's a really solid PvP primary, and it looks amazing.

@J.Starkweather Год назад

You might like it now since Bungie adjusted it's recoil to match other 120s. Before it had the incorrect recoil. Either way I like this handcannon. So many options to play around with a Void build.

@v-7815 Год назад

I'm from the future. No explosive payload on Igenous

@Furinalover2736 Год назад

I love this hand canon and I use it with my void titan. I agree with it. I especially love the feel of it and I am just a hand canon lover.

@HeyJack-kl5yj Год назад

With this handcannon, before the recoil pattern change I hated it. After the fix I absolutely love it. Tried it out and had a ton of fun with it on void warlock.

@ryankueffler9457 Год назад

This is my favorite 120 hand cannon for PVE with the stabilizing rounds

@phoenixeffect-6080 Год назад

Targeted plus the helm that gives hunters constant woven is amazing I rarely lose a 1v1

@JH_x3 Год назад

I think it’s good, but I’d like it if Bungie to put more of the good perks on craftable weapons, and not put them in the same slot. For example, Keep Away and EP being in the same slot for this gun

@darkest_eclipse8271 Год назад

I’m not a big fan of hand cannons, but targeted redaction is the best aggressive hand cannon I got my hands on so far. I still love the feel of the precision frames

@martinlavare1938 Год назад

Just got destroyed in trials by it and could not believe it. Thanks Cool Guy!

@JustArthur1 Год назад

the first one i got was well rounded frenzy and that gun felt nuts to use in pve. can't wait for the handcannon buffs in that sandbox

@GOATHartt90 Год назад

This gun made me finally put down my Crafted Austringer. It did it before I even could craft Target. Now with a crafted PVP god roll, RIP Austringer. 120's are back on the menu boys!

@wolvenfire3780 Год назад

Keep away is my favorite perk and I love using on pulses and scouts. Bc this is a 120 it makes it work

@eliezerortizlevante1122 Год назад

After Collective Action murdered in PvP. I chose Destabilizing Rounds with the PvE aggressive HC buffs.

@jadennigel773 Год назад

I’ve been using a targeted redaction with outlaw and destabilizing rounds with gyrfalcon this season for PvE and it’s become my go to primary for void hunter

@mrcountersnipe8008 Год назад

How about Well Rounded with a CD Exotic, like Graviton? High Mobil, gaining invis and gaining that insane melee regen. Maybe Khepri's Sting or Caliban's? Even Spine of Ahamkara? High regen, high stats, etc. Sounds good.

@whatyousee3225 Год назад

i always say if there's an explosive payload on a 120, go for it! there's no better perk

@Tzarcastically Год назад

I’ve been using it since it came out. We’ll rounded and keep away. It’s the only 120 I like. The spare rations model is the supreme hc. Great irons, recoil whip of the gun is so easy to keep on target. I’ve seen a lot of videos talking shit about the gun but fr it’s probably the best

@willdouglas7572 Год назад

Glad someone else likes this gun! I've tried two rolls with it, Envious/Harmony and Perfect Float/Frenzy. Think I'll make a roll for my hunter with Well-rounded/EP, good thinking! Love the videos

@gabrieltorres6633 Год назад

Yeah pure poetry and bottom dollar have huge perk pools but dont forget you have chances increased with 2-3 extra perks in the last two slots.

@DefactoOverlord Год назад

for me Perfect Float+Keepaway is clear. Makes it so much more consistent and reload speed is big.

@Sesa1138 Год назад

I really like this hand cannon, was not impressed with the perk pool but once i tried it i love it! As a bottom dollar/igneous hammer/steady hand/round robin enjoyer i am glad this one exists!