I Think I'm Being Underpaid (Do You Agree with Dave's Response?)

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I Think I'm Being Underpaid (Do You Agree with Dave's Response?)
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@fred4987 3 года назад

That’s such an employer response...They just say that to protect themselves. Employers love suppressing workers discussing wages because it protects the employer...

@nicogoliath4902 6 месяцев назад

Agreed

@maskedninja6883 6 месяцев назад

@@nicogoliath4902when your on top your gonna be hated. My grandfather was a CEO of a lawnmower business Dixon Lawnmowers. You have got to set yourself up to succeed even if it means sacrificing things. We got the zero turn radius in the market. Be thankful for what you have and make it right. You got this.

@87knox 3 года назад

Ken is *WAY* out of line saying it's irresponsible to tell your coworkers how much you make. The only one who gains when you don't discuss compensation with your coworkers is the one who's writing the checks.

@mv7374 3 года назад

Yes! This is genuinely such an old school way of thinking. Just make sure you don't take it out on your coworker who was honest enough to give you the info on their salary.

@BernardBrunu1 3 года назад

Maybe the reason he said that is cuz it ruins ur relationship with ur coworker if u feel like he makes more money than u.

@DrThunder2004 3 года назад

@@BernardBrunu1 If that ruins your relationship with that coworker that is on you. They gave you the ammunition needed to get a raise from your boss, or maybe that person actually provides more value than you know, and it presents you with a chance to learn from them. either way it is not the coworkers fault or a negative.

@miguelmuniz5528 3 года назад

I think it's more from a religious standpoint. You were happy with your salary, but envy made you all of a sudden change your mind.

@lucuslopez6866 3 года назад

lol. So you think if your co worker got a raise you should be getting one too? if they get fired should you get fired too? I think its ok if coworkers want to share their salary. Issue is there are too many crybabies out there who think everyone should be getting the same pay.

@aquaticasmr184 3 года назад

I asked my job for more money And i brought more value compared to others who were paid more They said no i left I went somewhere else made 3 times the money

@gregcarlson8438 3 года назад

This is why men make more money than women

@DrogoBaggins987 3 года назад

That's how to do it. Well done.

@AxcelGamer97 3 года назад

@@gregcarlson8438 There are a whole lot of other factors that go into that. Far beyond the subject matter of this video.

@DrogoBaggins987 3 года назад

@@gregcarlson8438 This is one of many reasons men make more money than women. But remember that the whole 77 cents on the dollar thing is a lie. Men don't really make more for doing the same work and young women actually make more than young men. Men will jump to a better job without drama, men will work nights and weekends and overtime and be happy about it, men will work for fifty years without a break.

@gatewaysolo104 3 года назад

@@AxcelGamer97 oh yes it's because men hate women and want to see their own wives, daughters, sisters, etc. get unfairly compensated.

@dricedt 3 года назад

I'm not a fan of Ken changing his tune to be more in sync with Dave.

@nikeraikage5318 3 года назад

Its agree or shut up

@jeffwvu4602 3 года назад

They're not supposed to give conflicting advice.

@fmccloud 3 года назад

That’s why I call him a patsy. He’s Dave’s yes-man and will fall in line even though he knows Dave is wrong or has gone overboard. This also tells me that if Dave was actually in charge of raises at his company, there wouldn’t be any raises going on.

@chartuck 3 года назад

Ken is a leghumper. If Dave peed on the floor and told Ken to lick it up he would. It's truly pathetic.

@costco_pizza 3 года назад

@Severus Sneed Ken is in line (along with Hogan) to inherit the show after Dave retires. He needs to be a yes man for as long as possible so that he gets the job.

@GoldenVulpes 3 года назад

Nope, I think it's great that her co-workers shared this information. This is how people get paid for fairly. Employer get away with paying people less by hiding this information from us

@agisler87 3 года назад

Employers don't get away with it. Employees want the highest wage and employers want pay the least. I'm sure you always go with the highest price for your auto, home repairs etc.

@agisler87 3 года назад

@Severus Sneed Or maybe people that believe individuals are smart enough to make there own decisions.

@josargor8179 3 года назад

i've learned to always do what is best for me and to not mind other's business. i've been burnt too many times by trying to stick up for my coworkers. i ended up having to leave 2 companies because the workers and the supervisor i was defending them from turned on me once the boss got involved. everyone knew i was in the right but even employers know some times they have to play along.

@joshuadias2468 3 года назад

@Severus Sneed SIMPS?? you mean people who understand business. It's a simple deal made by two parties and accepted. If you want it to be reworked you need to state what changed. Clearly nothing changed with Maddy based on what was written.

@Sebastian-lv1dv 3 года назад

No, get your money's worth. If you think you bring more value to the company than what you are being compensated, then bring this issue up and back it up with data. If your employer does not think you are correct, find another job.

@DrogoBaggins987 3 года назад

That's the way to do it but it would be best to have another job already lined up.

@Sebastian-lv1dv 3 года назад

@@DrogoBaggins987 That would definitely help! Can use another offer as leverage to get a higher salary, too.

@DrogoBaggins987 3 года назад

@@Sebastian-lv1dv Maybe. Depends on the situation. You might not say anything about it. Knowing that you are in a position to just walk away will come through just like desperation and feeling trapped will come through as soon as you walk into your boss's office.

@joecookDE 3 года назад

@Arwyn Exactly!

@tucuruicomercioerepresenta2308 3 года назад

This is the right answer to become fired!

@NaNa-lt1po 3 года назад

As I always say to people, if you think you are worth more, get it confirmed with an offer from outside and start negotiating..

@melvingibson4525 3 года назад

In that case, they will use an immigrant to replace you.

@stevenlenard6948 3 года назад

@@melvingibson4525 in that case you take the other offer

@wesjimez2941 3 года назад

Exactly. Then you don't know until you have another offer. If you tell your employer you are worth more they will put a box on your desk, or tell you to find another job. Companies aren't interested in paying lower level employees more. They only take care of people at the top. Ever since 2008 every employer wants to hire the cheapest possible person to do the job.

@milofonbil 3 года назад

@@melvingibson4525 Please don't hate on real legal immigrants. They have a permanent residency visa (Green Card). Temporary workers are on H1B, L1, TR, etc visa. They're not immigrants and neither are "undocumented immigrants" (illegal aliens).

@Project-Masculinity 3 года назад

Beijing Biden will make sure all your jobs go to 🇨🇳, so no pay rise and bend over for your welfare cheque...

@thehALomolov2 3 года назад

1:10, it is not irresponsible to disclose incomes in the workplace. Keeping salary secret only empowers the company to underpay employees who undervalue their worth. Companies don't pay what you're worth, they pay whatever is the lowest they can get away with.

@thehALomolov2 3 года назад

It's great when you find a company that standardizes wages. My current job I gave a pay range when they hired me and they chose to pay me the maximum I asked for because it's their standard for my position despite the fact I didn't have industry experience. So I know some co-workers that started higher, but I'm not mad knowing I could have been making $5 less per hour if they took the low end of the range I gave them. I was willing to start off lower to get my foot in the door and gain experience. I'll save the negotiating for later. ( I'm pretty sure it's illegal for companies to ask for your current salary, but every interviewer has some way of trying to get an idea of what you're trying to get payed).

@Beatyofeet32 3 года назад

Which they should. I certainly don't plan to spend $60 for a video game, see it on sale for $30, and then decide to pay $60 anyways because I think it's worth that much. Why would anyone be expected to pay more than the other party freely chooses to accept? You might do so in some cases with a tip or something, but that's usually based on performance. The analogue to that is bonuses, not salary.

@SejoRelentless 2 года назад

So true and on point like a decimal. Greed is a disgusting disease spreading rapidly globally and the owners of companies use other humans as tools

@menumlor9365 3 года назад

Maddie: I feel like I'm being underpaid. Everyone: Don't we all?

@sarahscalpel561 3 года назад

Amen! everyone in this country US, is underpaid lol. Well everyone who brings value to the company they work for, everyone doing a great job. lol

@St4ked 3 года назад

i was working for $13 an hour job. found out some made more than me, so i quit. went and got a CDL and now make 4x more.

@tchrisou812 3 года назад

A or B?

@St4ked 3 года назад

@@tchrisou812 Class A go big or go home.

@tchrisou812 3 года назад

@@St4ked lol $52 hr hauling what?

@St4ked 3 года назад

@@tchrisou812 salary wise

@d.d.9472 3 года назад

@@St4ked Be careful out there!

@clayemenhiser 3 года назад

I disagree with both of them. It sounds to me like she's saying that she is paid less for doing MORE work and doing it BETTER. She should ask for raise, but she should not mention the other person's wage. Their response seems silly.

@harpjason208 3 года назад

As long as she ' clocks in'" for that wage, that IS what she is worth. She may be compensated more or less at a different company. Let her put out some resumes and let the free market decide. Or she can go public sector or union and let her wage be on par with all her other workers.

@clayemenhiser 3 года назад

@@harpjason208 She may have undervalued herself. There's nothing wrong with negotiating a higher wage after starting at a company.

@mph5896 3 года назад

Thats her opinion on how she perceives the situation. She may be 100% correct, a complete mess or somewhere in-between. She can ask for a raise, ultimately her employer has the final say. She also has the option of finding a new job.

@kristenwilliams9601 3 года назад

It also sounds like she’s very new to the job. Has the person she’s complaining about been there much longer than she has? We don’t know. Sounds like she might have unrealistic expectations as a newbie.

@clayemenhiser 3 года назад

@@kristenwilliams9601 It's certainly possible. My main point is that Dave and Ken's response was way over the top, and they didn't have that information either.

@foford2010 3 года назад

Making only $16 an hour with a BA towards a masters is sad. That's what I made while in college. Just find a better job that pays your worth.

@harpjason208 3 года назад

Your " worth" is what you accept. Not a penny more.

@gregcarlson8438 3 года назад

Depends what the BA is in. If we are talking women’s studies or music, then I would say she is lucky to make it. Engineering? Yeah that is underpaid.

@jarodsimmons2542 3 года назад

Same, I made 18/hr at age 19 out of high school.

@WolverineIncognito 3 года назад

I would say it is what someone is willing to pay you, and not a penny more.

@foford2010 3 года назад

@@gregcarlson8438 I agree with what you're saying. But the logic of spending tens of thousands of dollars to make just $16 an hr is not worth the effort. Music IMO doesn't require a degree to tell an audience you can make music. Practice, focus and talent is all one needs. Too many people getting BA with no value in the marketplace and later are the ones asking for loan forgiveness.

@SeanBaker 3 года назад

Oh, no. Talking about your compensation is not irresponsible. Employers just don't like it. I understand why, but oh well.

@gamelord12 3 года назад

Seriously. It's not irresponsible or irrelevant, which is why Glass Door exists. It can lead to problems if people (like perhaps this caller) feel that they're worth more than they're worth, but also having salary information of other people that you work with just allows you, the employee, to make more informed decisions about market value for that position. And employers hate for you to know your actual market value, because it weakens their negotiating power to pay people less.

@maam-yj8ph 3 года назад

It is irresponsible to provide information such as salary without proper context such as actual number of hours worked, field work experience, contributions to company profits, customer service reviews, network associations, and any benefits/retirement accounts or lack thereof. Benefits, continued education and transparency are great but they need to be actual benefits, education, and transparency. Prove your worth.

@joyaustin6581 3 года назад

I work with a woman who is paid less with more responsibility, functions as informal consultant across departments and has higher education, experience and training. Sometimes it’s just unfair. It’s bad leadership to pay problematic employees higher than those who are better at what they do. I don’t argue with my pay because I have no desire for extra responsibility and prefer to avoid limelight.

@rothbj1 3 года назад

I'm starting to think Ramsey Solutions may not exactly be a rosy place to work....

@Llama_vet 3 года назад

He happy to pay you standard until you prove yourself.

@avril14thlove 3 года назад

Check out the Glassdoor reviews - they're horrific.

@DrogoBaggins987 3 года назад

It's funny how people like Dave who like to say not to worry about what the guy next to you makes are the same people who will risk everything and work seven days a week to make more than the guy next to them. Something strange in the personality there.

@perotal 3 года назад

You are just starting ? lol

@05nautilus 3 года назад

@@Llama_vet so you are ok with a low ball salary until you “prove yourself”. Good luck with that! Because all business owners are just waiting for people to prove themselves so they can pay them more. I thought they were there to make money not overpay their employees.

@crohnsdisease5414 3 года назад

Dave always talks about how whoever has the most information in a negotiation wins, until you try to find out how much the people working next you make. Then, apparently, you're lazy and entitled.

@DrogoBaggins987 3 года назад

Good point. That's funny.

@valeriagomez2677 3 года назад

Yeah I think he's off base on this one. It's not being entitled. I think if she was upset they both made the same and she deserves more because of the Masters, then it's entitlement and a problem. But they're obviously paying her below market.

@Uncleamo42 3 года назад

@@valeriagomez2677 why did she accept it then? She didn't have this issue until she found out how much someone else makes.

@chezbrgr217 3 года назад

@@Uncleamo42 Maybe she didn’t realize she was accepting a job that paid less than her co-workers until she talked to them about it. The employer wouldn’t advertise that information ahead of time

@valeriagomez2677 3 года назад

@@Uncleamo42 exactly what Quinn Kealey said. She didn't know she was being paid below until she found out. Just because she accepted it doesn't mean she can't fight it. It does not make her entitled. Of course, she needs to be professional about it. But she has every right. If her employer won't pay her whats fair an extra $2, then she needs to find a new job.

@acepilot13 3 года назад

How is it irresponsible that her coworker disclosed their pay? Shouldn't we normalize these conversations?

@perotal 3 года назад

Exactly. People need to understand that not discussing compensation is playing the management and HR's game. Companies that can JUSTIFY their compensation policies should not be afraid of their employees discussing how much they make.

@zunedog31 3 года назад

Lol no. How many people will hear their coworker's salaries and handle it correctly?

@harpjason208 3 года назад

No, we should not " normalize" sharing your compensation package with co workers. Go work union if you want the same pay as your co worker. Otherwise, in a private sector, free market system, you are paid in line with what you provide.

@giantdad1661 3 года назад

Its actually illegal for employers to bar or discourage you from discussing your pay

@perotal 3 года назад

@@harpjason208 nobody is saying everyone should be paid the same. I don't see a problem when the company can show why someone is paid more because they bring more value.

@jwonz2054 3 года назад

It's not irresponsible to talk about pay in the work place. This is a worker's right in order to get fair pay.

@chezbrgr217 3 года назад

Love the show, but I’m a little disappointed with Dave’s take here. He doesn’t know enough about her story to know that she’s entitled. It may in fact be true that she is more valuable to her company than her co-worker and not being paid enough for it. For everyone’s sake, it would’ve been nice for them to trust her story here, and advise her on how to negotiate intelligently and openly with her employer over her value to the organization, because sometimes we all will have to do that.

@kevindudson2344 3 года назад

I remember my dad told me he had a job where he was supposed to train someone for them to receive a higher pay than him. He quit.

@mejsnarp 3 года назад

Happened to me. I was gone as soon as I landed a new job. How stupid is management that loses x years of experience for couple of grand. Good thing for me, as I now make more than 30k more.

@Fc9ers 3 года назад

Way more often than not youre gonna get a bigger raise by going to another company, honestly

@afinteresting8817 3 года назад

Dave's thinking keeps everyone down. People shouldnt be afraid to talk about their wages in the work place.

@bigd9040 3 года назад

Dave's afraid that his employees will start talking about how much they make lol 🤣

@BlueStreak706 3 года назад

Welcome to the favoritism world! I’ve seen this happen at every job I’ve been to, for 20 years. Focus on your own job and pay, if they don’t address it, then leave. Get a different job.

@Sonickrunch 3 года назад

You're company saw an opportunity to pay you less, because they are that kind of company. Move on and negotiate more pay at your next job.

@puertotexan 3 года назад

It's also possible that HE LIED about how much he is getting paid.

@jacobg8640 3 года назад

There's a ton of stuff we don't know if it even mattered. When did the person making $18 start? Maybe he's lazy because he's realized after 5 years and only getting $2 more that working much harder isn't worth it. Maybe he was hired before the pandemic and the employer didn't want to cut his salary. Go get another job and negotiate this time if it bothers you that much.

@lanceknuth5300 3 года назад

The longevity issue is what I honed in on. I have coworkers who can produce more work than I can, but despite being my equals they defer to me as I have been working where I do for five years. We make the same amount of money, but if somehow it was possible for this company to cut jobs 50% I am confident that I would still be employed.

@HWTMPH 3 года назад

Lol, what absolute trash advice. I love that equal pay for equal work exists where I live, and that my generation is big on being transparent with how much we make. It's such an old thought process to think: "Let your job underpay and exploit you, and stop whining! You are not entitled to an equal wage! You're lucky you even have the opportunity to create profit for your employer!"

@Summit900 3 года назад

You completely ignore 2 things about your "equal pay". 1. She could be lying to make herself look better. After all, she pointed out their education levels. And 2. We have NO idea how long the other coworker has been there. He could've been there for 5 years. We DO know that she hasn't even been there a year.

@Yetizod1 3 года назад

And define equal work. I've heard this line of BS around my office a few times over the years and one thing i've noticed, people really don't know what other people do. Just cause something looks like SIMILAR work doesn't mean it's the same. Two people sitting at a desk working on excel spreadsheets might not be producing the same thing. It might not have the same value, and one might require a much higher level of knowledge. But to someone who doesn't know what they're talking about they might say "those people both do data entry, they shoudl make the same". No it's not the same.

@HWTMPH 3 года назад

@@Yetizod1 We don't know exactly what this individual does for a living. But at the end of the day - two people fold the same clothes in the same store? Same pay. Two people fill out the same things on the same excel spreadsheet at the same company? Same pay. I agree, if one person is doing complex calculations in excel while one person is just filling in info, then sure, different pay. But I'm sure this individual must know what she does and what her co-worker does by now.

@HWTMPH 3 года назад

@@Summit900 I totally agree about the length of time... but we don't know that the co-worker started at $16 and worked their way up to $18, or if they just started at $18. If they started at $16 2 years ago and got a $1 increase each year, then that is considered equal pay, because she will also make $18 in 2 years. But if the co-worker started at $18 then I stand by the fact that this is a trash employer.

@Summit900 3 года назад

@@HWTMPH Which is why I implied we have NO context to make any sort of educated guess.

@dfizz313 3 года назад

You are only worth what you negotiate. 🤷🏾‍♂️

@kennyvspoverty 3 года назад

And that’s that if you took the low wage because you were afraid to express your value that’s your fault

@probablynot1368 3 года назад

It’s so very important to negotiate your pay. She worked part-time at this company, then they valued her enough to bring her on full-time. This was her opportunity to use her ‘value’ and ask for a few bucks more an hour. It is the job of HR and/or the Hiring Manager to bring on the best talent for the lowest wage they’ll accept. Folks, never accept the first offer. If they won’t budge on salary, then ask for a review of your performance and salary at 6 months in order to get that desired bump in pay, but you certainly must be prepared to demonstrate your value to your employer.

@larrisalewis8558 3 года назад

And to negotiate you need knowledge, that's why it's good she knows what everyone else makes, so she knows what the job is willing to pay.

@ethanquinn2449 3 года назад

Your master's degree is the equivalent to the associates degree until you use your knowledge to better the company and show your better!!!!

@DrogoBaggins987 3 года назад

I feel for her. I have been in similar situations. The harsh reality is that the only way to move up is to learn what you can in your current job and then find a better job. If your employer has been descent to you then give them the opportunity to keep you by giving you the raise that you think you deserve. If not then jump. Don't just job hop but don't be attached to a job so much that it holds you back. Always be looking for a better job and remember that if it isn't in writing it didn't happen.

@roxy8189 3 года назад

I agree. I found out a co-worker that I trained was making more than me, after only being there for two years. I was there for over ten years. I asked for a raise without mentioning about the co-worker making more. My boss told me that he couldn’t give me a raise. I found another job making six dollars more per hour so I gave my two weeks notice. Best decision I’ve ever made. Sometimes when you work for a long time at a place they take your hard work for granted.

@DrogoBaggins987 3 года назад

@@roxy8189 Sounds familiar. That is a heck of a raise.

@AMK544 3 года назад

NEVER stop looking for something better! My first job out of college (chemistry degree) I was making $17/hour. Wasnt happy with that so after a year I went to another company making $25/hour. Then after another year I had a great opportunity to go to an amazing company, doing exactly what I wanted to do making $37/hour. Job hopping is okay when it’s a vertical move and not just a bunch of lateral moves.

@DrogoBaggins987 3 года назад

@@AMK544 That's wonderful! I'm starting over at the bottom in a new field at 49 years old. I hope that the next few years go as well for me but it will probably take working two jobs for me to make that much per year.

@Zaerki 3 года назад

Did he just say it was irresponsible to discuss your pay? You should absolutely share information about your pay if you are comfortable with it.

@heypiggy 3 года назад

Dave owns a business: business owners DO NOT want employees discussing salary amongst one another. Which I think we should!

@Digitalknifeparty 3 года назад

Right! Transparency is key to reducing pay inequality. If this woman never found out how much her male counterpart was making and still did everything he suggests, her lifetime earnings would be impacted because she’s starting at a lower point. If I was her, I’ll keep it in the back of my mind that they’re willing to pay him $18/hr while continuing to work hard/better. When the time is right, I’d go to management asking for more than what he makes or getting a position that pays more.

@aqueen13 3 года назад

I totally agree! Talking pay and money should not be a taboo topic.

@kurtjames9487 3 года назад

Yeah, I remember when i first entered the workforce too and thought that everything should be openly discussed. Cute.

@aolvaar8792 3 года назад

I took a job for $80K/yr and was told Discussing my salary was a terminatable offence. After a few weeks, I found out my co-workers were making $40K/yr. Can you imagine if my co-workers found out. 6 months later they offered $120K/yr, not to leave. I left for reasons other than money.

@terrencedabney843 3 года назад

You know what I don't like? Someone changing their perspective because someone higher then them doesn't agree with their opinion. That guy totally changed.his look after Dave's opinion didn't match his.

@perotal 3 года назад

If you watch the show regularly this happens all the time. The only rare exceptions come from Rachel (his daughter). Either Dave goes first and all they do is nod in agreement and repeat the same thing he said, or they do a 180 when Dave talks after them and has a different opinion.

@terrencedabney843 3 года назад

@@perotal your totally right! They ALL do. It's just disappointing that people can't go. "Hey Dave, yeah I totally respect that point of view. Its just I strongly feel what I just said." I do have a vibe Dave's employees have to follow his view of things? Or maybe he tends to promote the employees that overly show their respect for his opinions. Crazy thing is, smart guy like Dave, he HAS to know they're being yes employees.

@Michael-vf2mw 3 года назад

@@terrencedabney843 That' is the story that you get from reading the glassdoor reviews, yes. It seems like termination is swift if you disagree too vocally with Dave.

@SadieFeinstein 3 года назад

Ken needs to stand firmly on what he believes- loved his approach. You can't help someone if you berate them first and then offer advice.

@chartuck 3 года назад

He can't. He's Dave's leghumper.

@pojack9979 3 года назад

Ken: I agree, you’re underpaid. Dave: Ken, you’re dumb. Ken: Dave, you are absolutely correct! I’m sorry for having a different opinion.

@chrisallison9151 3 года назад

"Thank you for your service" with that attitude, it sounds like you would rather have your employees be silent then voice their concerns to you

@theflightsimulationexperie6894 3 года назад

Yup exactly. The more I watch Dave’s show, the more I think he is a narcissistic deva in real life. Sure, give good advise on some topics but not all.

@CC-bm3wb 3 года назад

@@theflightsimulationexperie6894 That's true for most people (good advise on some topics, but not all). I agree, I don't think that's a good line to fire back with. $16 is not a lot, especially if you're raising a family. That being said, I agree it is probably in Maddie's best interest to find another job.

@joshuadias2468 3 года назад

I see what Dave is pointing out is that the offer was made and Maddy accepted. The only problem is that someone else got a better offer and that is the only reason to be upset. The other person could have negotiated better, the interview matters a lot.

@jeffsmith9420 3 года назад

Ramsey has a reputation for abusing his workers. One story involves him waving a loaded gun at them.

@CaseyBurnsInvesting 3 года назад

The nature of a business is underpaying your employees. Break free and take charge.

@tucuruicomercioerepresenta2308 3 года назад

What a BS. You know nothing.

@djpuplex 3 года назад

The co-worker could be lying. Also I know a lot of employers that would fire both employees for discussing compensation, no lie I've seen it in written policies.

@DebraJohnson 3 года назад

It’s against the law to fire two non-management employees for discussing wages.

@stevenlenard6948 3 года назад

@@DebraJohnson not if it's in the paperwork for non disclosure of payroll info

@NicolesBookishNook 3 года назад

@@stevenlenard6948 Nope, it's still illegal.

@random-nz7dy 3 года назад

@@stevenlenard6948 employers can discourage things that are technically legal like this. I get why employers don't want people talking about their wages. Depending on the nature of the business people's salaries could be varied for a number of reasons. Performance, tenure. And those differences may not always be age/tenure dependant so comparison can cause unhelpful complaining.

@xsvdudex 3 года назад

Dave likely underpays some of his employees, so his response makes sense.

@harpjason208 3 года назад

They can sell their abilities to any other company any time they like. He pays them exactly what they are worth, in HIS company..

@midwestrustwarrior 3 года назад

No. He pays them what they are worth gone are the times of paying everyone equally. Besides unions. Im in a union and there are people smarter than me and people not as smart and we all do the same job.

@avril14thlove 3 года назад

His pay is terrible, just look at the Glassdoor page for Ramsey Solutions.

@vyathaen 3 года назад

I disagree as well with what Dave said. It is the duty of the employer to compensate FAIRLY employees for they work and a good one will keep a track on that and reflect the pay based on performance, bad employer will use favoritism or other methods that are unfair imo.

@greencase 3 года назад

Need to find a bttr job.

@Yetizod1 3 года назад

It is not the duty of the employer to pay someone more for no reason. That's horseshit.

@agisler87 3 года назад

Fairly by who's standard? The employer and employee both agreed on what was fair. If at any point either disagrees then they can break the contract.

@vyathaen 3 года назад

@@agisler87 The agreement is very basic, it is exactly the reason why employers can go around it. If you start a job and in 6 months everyone gets double pay BUT YOU for doing the same work,how would you feel? yet technically,its not against the agreement

@agisler87 3 года назад

@@vyathaen What everyone else makes is none of my business. If they are getting paid more than good for them. And I would say good job to the employer for getting a good deal. I'm sure you always pay the higher price for auto, home repair etc?

@onyx9857 3 года назад

No co-host ever stands up to Dave.

@ademd7099 3 года назад

Because they will get fired. Look at their reviews on Glassdoor. They have a no gossip rule and if you talk about anything that is considered criticizing, they fire them.

@stanleyjavin4911 3 года назад

Earn as much as you can, invest as much as you can and save as much as you can. That’s why it’s advisable everyone has multiple streams of making passive income

@richwilson3767 3 года назад

That wasn’t her point. Listen to her again.

@usernameluis305 3 года назад

So what was her point

@MsDanceDiva234 3 года назад

It sounds like the girl deserved the equal pay for the same role

@kristenwilliams9601 3 года назад

We don’t know it’s for the exact same role. We also don’t know how long the other employee has been there. It sounds to me like she is relatively new to the company. In my experience, people also tend to value their contribution more highly and focus on the shortcomings of others.

@conman823 3 года назад

You’re making massive assumptions without knowing anything at all. Just the SJW “girls should make the same”. Why? Cause you have a clam?

@design401 3 года назад

So based on their view... Forget your degree and all that money and work you put in it.... SMH... This woman better not work for these two...

@usernameluis305 3 года назад

The money and work you put into your degree are utterly meaningless to employers

@mattnelson1268 3 года назад

This interaction tells you everything you need to know about working for Dave Ramsey.

@hottgamerman 3 года назад

Sounds pretty horrible and sexist

@brandonk1097 3 года назад

@@hottgamerman How does it seem sexist?

@hottgamerman 3 года назад

How is the women not entitled to the same pay as her male co-worker for doing the same thing?

@jay09884 3 года назад

@@hottgamerman You mean for claiming she does the same thing

@brandonk1097 3 года назад

@@hottgamerman First of all, it’s everything that she claimed. She might not be better than him than she thinks. Also, how much longer has he been there than her? She just went full time in August, that’s 4 months. What if the other guy has been there a couple years. Education doesn’t equal more money in the workplace. And the main comment was talking about working for Dave Ramsey, which you called “horrible and sexist.” Dave is right, nobody is entitled to certain pay because they think they deserve it.

@earthsteward9 3 года назад

Everyone with a job should spend 2-4 hours a week looking for a new job or side gig. It is better for the overall economy and makes it more competitive

@macabretraveler1689 3 года назад

Off of two paragraphs he jumps to the nastiest conclusion

@WrestlingRanter 3 года назад

Hey Dave Im usually happy to listen to your opinion and not have much to say about it. In this case i have to strongly disagree that she feels entitled. She was perfectly happy with 16 dollars an hour when she was working part time. She said she has been moved to full time which means more responsibility and more hours which should mean more pay. I don't blame her for being upset if everything she said is true. at the very least the company should re evaluate her pay because she can bring more value to the company. Does she need to approach this situation with humbleness and make certain that she is respectful absolutely. You are way off base in your opinion that she is acting as if she is entitled. Btw just incase you actually read this i am not just a keyboard warrior my name is Anthoy Squellati and i dare you to now call me out on your show in opposition to the opinion i have now expressed.

@pmeehan_3 3 года назад

I'm 52. I understand Dave's reply and the writers question. The younger generation wants more transparency. Dave's answer is his generations thinking on disclosing pay information with other co-workers or your boss.

@MiguelAngel-oh1ub 3 года назад

You’re never gonna make enough money comparing yourself to others. 😂 Imagine spending money on a degree to make 16/hr. I was making that as a 👨‍🍳 at ihop when I was 18. 🤦‍♂️

@LyonsArcade 3 года назад

This exact same thing happened to me at my first job when I was making minimum wage. I asked to talk to the manager, (at 16)... told him I was doing a good job and I wanted to make more money than the new people being hired off the street. he agreed with me, gave me a promotion, and a raise. I wouldn't have been able to do that, though, if I wasn't doing a good job.

@lkj0822g 3 года назад

After 40+ years in corporate America, and having participated on countless employment interview committees, I can tell you that after your first job, that degree has very little value. If I'm considering two candidates, one a former intern with a good work experience with me and a second candidate with a more exemplary academic background, I'm going with the intern. Degrees are merely a filter to get you past the first cut.

@agisler87 3 года назад

Pretty much. This is basically what Bryan callan says in his book The case against Education.

@xyzsame4081 3 года назад

The degree is not important to get the job but will be the pretext to NOT getting a raise or a promotion. Or they will hire a degree person from outside.

@trumanlittler1576 3 года назад

Why didn't they simply tell her to find another job?

@NomastiAfricanWarlord 3 года назад

Because Dave also underpays his employees lol. Would be awkward.

@shawnanapier845 3 года назад

I learned years ago that you aren't paid what you are worth, you are paid what you negotiate.

@aolvaar8792 3 года назад

If It's a Union job, pay is not negotiated

@esonon5210 3 года назад

@@aolvaar8792 Most people don't have union jobs so....

@aolvaar8792 3 года назад

@@esonon5210 Statement of fact, Did not state MOST jobs are Union, My Governmental job was non-negotiable The military is non-negotiable. The thread started with: you aren't paid what you are worth, you are paid what you negotiate.

@esonon5210 3 года назад

@@aolvaar8792 im not conflicting your point, im just pointing out that it doesn’t apply to most people.

@aolvaar8792 3 года назад

@@esonon5210 The thread started with: you aren't paid what you are worth, you are paid what you negotiate. I don't Think, that + 50% (most) can negotiate their starting salary.. I my case, most new employers pay me more than I accepted, (Several have said, if you don't want the extra money, give it to charity)

@dancer1 3 года назад

First

@avril14thlove 3 года назад

Ironic that Dave preaches that your income is your biggest wealth builder til he's blue in the face, and then tells this girl she's whiney and entitled for asking for $18 freaking dollars an hour. SMH...old-school, boomer, toxic mindsets on this show. You want great compensation? Come to the tech industry. Dave is the perfect example of 'keep your salary private', 'put your head down and work', underpaid, old-school corporate culture.

@garrett21 3 года назад

Jesus what a waste of time. She is obviously being underpaid or is underemployed for her education background. With a BA you shouldn’t be making $16/hour. It has nothing to do with her being entitled and everything to do with getting fair wages based on her background and what others in the industry are making.

@KVW22 2 года назад

Nope, wrong. You are entitled to more money when you provide more value to a company, and companies today don't care. Also, it is absolutely a good thing when coworkers talk about their pay. Companies today completely take advantage of people and under pay them.

@rajbeekie7124 3 года назад

Dave is WRONG. This case probably has nothing to do with entitlement. If this woman is bringing more value to the table she should be paid more than the other employee. It is all context. Assuming all things are relatively equal, the woman needs to approach management and discuss what she needs to do for the company in order to get to $20. or $25 an hour. Now, if she really believes she is worth higher pay to an organization she needs to find a place where her skills are values at the upper level. If she can't, then she will have to accept the $16. Pay is related to relevance in the market place. The more relevant the greater the pay. It is as simple as that.

@DGNG-dd3to Год назад

Dave is sooo wrong!!! The caller flat out said they have more responsibility than their coworker who makes a ton of mistakes. Was he even listening????

@lobocastillo7228 3 года назад

Strongly disagree with Dave’s statement. I have been fortunate to work at an environmental firm while finishing up a degree, and also being able to work along well with the environmental managers. Both environmental managers were very well knowledgeable about their work, yet one was underpaid due to him only having an associate’s degree. That manager would mention how having a bachelors degree can greatly assist you with negotiating a salary. It’s something mentioned in school as well. In my opinion, that environmental manager brought a lot to the company and picked up a major project before the previous manager retired. His work was quality work, providing as much detail, and yet was underpaid. Fortunately he was able to find a better job opportunity. That environmental manager built good relationships with our clients and they still call asking for him today. So I apologize, but I strongly disagree with the argument about bringing value to the company. Even if you do that, a company could still use some excuse to underpay you. And at that point, it is best to part ways with that company.

@Summit900 3 года назад

So you agree with Dave when he roughly said degrees don't matter, only the value you bring to the company matters. Because that's what you just said.

@Summit900 3 года назад

@@HermannTheGreat The lady NEVER said anything about going into a specialized field. You are using an exception as the rule.

@kylesizemore2751 3 года назад

In all walks of life you get not what you are "worth" but what you negotiate. If I'm an employer and I can hire a PHD for less than an associates then I'm going to do that. That doesn't make me evil or unfair, it makes me smart. Now if the PHD can explain to me in no uncertain terms that if I do not pay them what they have in mind as fair for their services they will leave, I am more inclined to pay up if I need them. If what they want is unreasonable, they can just go somewhere else. This isn't rocket science. Take care of yourself because no one is going to do it for you.

@davidchester429 3 года назад

Everyone is paid what they are worth. If they were worth more then they would do something about it and change their job etc. People should be encouraged to switch jobs more. Loyalty to a job is 100% for idiots

@CJ2345ish 3 года назад

You don't get raises based on value. That's a load of hog wash. You get paid as little as possible to do a job so the company can make money. I've rarely ever heard of a company just outright going up to someone and saying "Here's more money to keep doing the same thing". You either get recommended for promotion, have a discussion with them about your worth, or take on more responsibility. I agree with Dave's sentiment in one regard but the assumption that someone is more valuable because they make more isn't true either.

@gli17b 3 года назад

Have to be respectfully disagree. People don’t get paid fairly, companies would save money if they could. I have trained people and then discovered they were paid more than me at a lower title than I. It happens all the time when you stay somewhere too long. So by job hopping each time you can negotiate for more. So I quit that job (been there 6 years and calls the best in the team, of course they loved me, I was cheap and good) and I went somewhere else and got a 30 percent raise... a year later I went somewhere else and got another 20 percent raise. I would have never gotten the money I did if I stayed

@JenniferPriceSmith 3 года назад

Disagree with Dave

@ianrobinson476 3 года назад

Its crazy everything recommended was the opposite of the reality that i live in. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. A new position opened up at work, they hired outside of the company 2 times (even though i applied) they each lasted less then 6 months before quiting. finally hired me after working there for 8 years. And they paid me less then both of them because one had a degree i didn't have and the other was twice my age. Nether one had any experience in the position. After 3 years i finally was making as much as 1 of them. Finally after speaking up about it i got equal pay to the other guy. I only wish i had spoke up earlier. Dave gives employers to much credit.

@duhbghaill9306 3 года назад

You have a God-given duty to use the tools and gifts HE has given you, to the very best of your ability. If you find that you are no longer on the track that you should be at your work, I believe it is your responsibility to rise above and set yourself back on the upward path. If this means a meeting with your supervisor to discuss future plans and a possible raise, so be it. If this means refreshing your resume and reaching out to your outside contacts in your field, then that might be what is necessary here.

@Sara_The_Feral_Housewife 3 года назад

They are assuming the employer wants to compensate fairly. Alot of employers want to pay you as little as you're willing to accept. It might be worth asking what the pay raise scale is and have a conversation about it.

@Bursted15 3 года назад

How does your education not play a role in whether or not someone gets a job? There are literally millions of jobs that REQUIRE a college education. You can't even open the door without that piece of paper.

@bashfulbeautybelle 11 месяцев назад

Maddie definitely should go apply for other jobs and redetermine her value.

@justint1181 3 года назад

1:14 why is it irresponsible to be transparent with a co-worker on how much you make?

@ecole146 3 года назад

"You are not entitled to more value based on your freaking degrees" I hate to break it to you Dave, and I wish it weren't this way, but every mid-large business out there ABSOLUTELY values degrees more than experience in entry-level jobs.

@Mosesusorer 3 года назад

And to add to that, where you get your degree from matters too

@greencase 3 года назад

Once again the guest hosts are out of touch. Look how his tune changed when Dave spits the truth.

@tchrisou812 3 года назад

That is his boss

@Michael-vf2mw 3 года назад

Ken just doesn't have a spine. His initial reply was more helpful than Dave's.

@winstonsmith6204 3 года назад

As I was told recently no one is ever going to pay you what you think your worth. Start a business and make money

@Mosesusorer 3 года назад

Waaaayy easier said than done

@Andjun5174 3 года назад

@@Mosesusorer In a lot of case it is that easy

@Mosesusorer 3 года назад

@@Andjun5174 statistics prove otherwise, unfortunately

@Mosesusorer 3 года назад

@@Andjun5174 when you find out that in 2019 about 90% of startups failed you’d say otherwise. In looking at the data, it’s shown that only 30% of small businesses make it past the 10 year mark and less than 20% after 15 years, so I’ll let you draw your own conclusions from here...

@scorpionx7044 3 года назад

Dave makes a mistake by assuming that your value to the company will be reflected in your compensation, that's not true. I have seen many cases where the person's value has no correlation to their pay.

@TalksWithYeisie 3 года назад

I agree with Dave 100%

@TheTruthHurts6666 3 года назад

Actually I think we should be more open about how much we make. Not sure why everyone is so hush about things; it's only the employers who knows things are unfair, unable to take criticism, that will be upset when employees question their way of doing things.

@DrogoBaggins987 3 года назад

It is sort of funny that Dave asks all the callers how much they make but here he acts like it's something that should be kept a secret.

@Rogcui 3 года назад

Comparison is the thief of joy. I work at a tech company where half of my coworkers make 5x my pay because they got in early on stock options. It was tough when I found out but now I choose to focus on myself. If I didn’t know this I’d be perfectly happy making 6 figures. Dave is right on this one.

@lestatvamp8865 3 года назад

Dave Ramsey reminds me of Jim Ross 🤠

@erikgutierrez3613 3 года назад

Good ol JR! Lol THE TEXAS RATTLESNACK HITS THE STUNNER!!! BUHGAWWWD!!! HE'S AN ANIMAL!!!

@Bsfeeblegrind 3 года назад

I’ve been thinking who he reminded me of and you hit it perfectly

@SpeedfreakUK 3 года назад

He reminds me of Mark “Rip” Rippetoe but for money

@fmccloud 3 года назад

Why? Because they both have big mouths?

@dripbayless9671 3 года назад

There is nothing wrong with discussing wages with other coworkers.

@SLee-vj4px 3 года назад

as long as the folks can handle it

@lambfam5876 3 года назад

Dave is hilarious and he’s right

@fridafriday7565 3 года назад

Unless you’re like a doctor of some kind or a lawyer, then I don’t see how that can make you more qualified and/or give you more money A person studying under a doctor with 10+ years experience is going to get paid less because I that Doctor’s experience brings medical research to the table, New techniques on how to treat patients, etc. while the person studying under them is learning

@BreakfloorNerd 3 года назад

Watch Daves yes man completely change his opinion in seconds when Dave disagrees with him 😂😂

@DigitalHaze65536 3 года назад

Cringeworthy!

@bartvanriel6767 3 года назад

Maybe she is worth $25 an hour but they think she can keep working at $16 because she seems to be okay with it

@AaronHernandez-xv4qh 3 года назад

This is exactly the case. Was hired for a Financial analyst position but they needed/wanted a senior. They wanted to skimp out 30k and get cheaper labor.

@ttime5756 3 года назад

I would never work for 16 an hour with any kind of degree. Go find another job after a year or so.

@esonon5210 3 года назад

I'm glad someone said it.

@bellmattwebb 3 года назад

Irresponsible and let you know what they make in the workplace? How is that being irresponsible? There really needs to be more transparency in the workplace in my opinion. Also, be the change you want. I do love the parable of the laborers, my favorite.

@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 3 года назад

I want to know all the motha effin financial documents. Why is it I cannot be paid higher, profit margins, all that sheeet.

@mmoye8640 3 года назад

And that person could be lying to you about what they make. Also, I was in this situation. I found out that one person was making more than me and another person had more vacation time than me. I realized that I didn't fight for any additional money and didn't ask for more vacation time. So, I didn't blame anyone but me.

@austinbachurski7906 3 года назад

If people spent as much time as they waste worrying about what their coworkers are doing/getting on improving themselves and being the best at what they do, they'd climb a lot faster...

@perotal 3 года назад

Not in all corporations. Knowing what people in the same role make is mandatory to get an idea of your value in the marketplace

@austinbachurski7906 3 года назад

@Severus Sneed out of curiosity I'd like to know which of us you're talking about, lol.

@austinbachurski7906 3 года назад

@Severus Sneed so when I tell you that I'm a heavy equipment mechanic does that make you just wrong or wrong and stupid at the same time? I can't figure it out...

@JeroenV23 3 года назад

The company needs to have a good salary scheme in place, otherwise people who are valueable for the company are going to leave. So, leave, and make a new deal :) a diploma is a great indiction, but of course results are important no doubt. Thats my opinion.

@cathyosullivan718 3 года назад

I think many companies are unfair. I went through this situation when I was young at my first job. I worked there seven years. My manager tried to get me more money but my the higher ups would cry poverty. I found out everyone in my position was making another $10,000 then me. I told them I was resigning to finish graduate school. Magically they offered me the extra $10,000.00 to stay. I declined.

@MohammedAhmed-bc7zd 3 года назад

Grumpy old Dave.. 👨‍🦳

@sarrahconley3143 3 года назад

I just did my job really well and had a good attitude. I didn't think I would get promoted for a few years. So I just did my thing and focused on me. I was surprisingly promoted this year!

@Mosesusorer 3 года назад

Congratulations Sarrah!!

@sarrahconley3143 3 года назад

@@Mosesusorer Thanks! It's been my best year.

@nicolemorris1610 3 года назад

I work in government and the two of us in my office were started on salary meaning half days didn’t count against us. When the federal law changed Jan 2020 we went from salary to hourly and don’t get the benefits we were told we would get. Then we have other departments that make $10,000-$15,000 more than we do a year and we do half of their work for them. 🙄 there is no room for growth in this place as all the positions are “predetermined”. It’s safe to say, I’m not looking to retire here, but merely gain experience so I can take it else where.

@DougTechNews 3 года назад

A lot of companies you won't earn more unless you ask for it. Companies will often pay you less as long as you tolerate it. Dave is a business owner. His viewpoint is totally from that perspective.

@nikellnorris3417 3 года назад

I have personally seen people not negotiate their pay when offered a job while others did.its not that persons fault. That’s like if I have developed my own system to be more productive and someone else being upset about my work being completed before they finish there’s. I saw a quote I totally agree with. It read “ if you compete with others you can become bitter but if you compete with yourself you become better “

@xyzsame4081 3 года назад

Many people are not good in negotiating for themself - they may be good doing that for a charity or their company. And if the ability to be self-assertive and being a top negotiator is not part of the job descrption it does not hinder the inexperienced negotiator to bring value. Many people are people-pleaser. They can't negotiate, but they may be good for the company. Would be the task of management to bring some consistency into the issue.

@fransvanhofwegen7414 3 года назад

Does the bald guy hate people with degrees?

@Lawtlknguy18 3 года назад

If she does more work than the lazy co-worker, than she does bring more value to the organization. How else would you compare it? Also you're asking an employer (who is not your friend) this question. Ultimately you can only advocate for yourself. If Dave could charge his employees to work there, he probably would.

@DrThunder2004 3 года назад

That assumes she has all the facts. I had a coworker that was reported as lazy because they were leaving during the workday to run errands. turns out the reason she ran them during the day was because the mass spec was dying and she was rebooting it every 90 minutes ALL NIGHT LONG and sleeping in her car in the parking lot. The boss knew, the coworkers did not.

@hands3013 3 года назад

WOW, for the first time ever I am flabbergasted by their response. You can tell that these BUSINESS OWNERS got so defensive when she suggests questioning her compensation. This is the mentality that makes companies prohibit compensation talk in the work place. Why the lack of transparency? This is such an out of the loop response. If she brings more value and works harder she has every right to feel something is off. Either ask for a raise or leave. If nothing shady is going on then talk of compensation should NEVER be an issue.

@Michael-vf2mw 3 года назад

I'd put this all on Dave. Ken would probably agree with you, if he had a spine. (But then he wouldn't be working with Dave, so there's that).

@Summit900 3 года назад

Except we only see her side. 1. We don't know how long the coworker has been there. 2 She doesn't even know how the company values her as she hasn't said anything about an eval. 3. Most companies do a yearly eval and base raises and compensation off of that. She's only been there 9 months. So her raise may reflect that work when she gets her yearly eval. 4. We don't even know if she's telling the truth.

@emilybaking5836 3 года назад

So, how much does Ken make?? Thoughts?

@emilybaking5836 3 года назад

150k

@jenniferelkins 3 года назад

Their attitude toward employees sharing their salaries concerns me. Of course there are going to be a few people who cause problems with that info, but for the most part the only bad that can come of it is employers having to deal with people negotiating a fair salary. I don't think it's wrong for someone to work for a company for a few years, learn that the new hires are getting paid more than them, and use that information to leverage a raise. And I don't think any employer should be putting their employees in that position to begin with. They know they have to pay people a better starting wage as time goes on, so why don't they think they should raise the wages of current employees at the same rate? They're taking advantage. Now, in this particular case, this person took a job six months ago and the only reason they're not happy now is because the other guy gets more. That's not the same thing.