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I wasn't impressed with Max's antics in Austria. The squeeze was penalty worthy, and the moving under the brakes was probably over the line.
But, the worst transgression of all, was something I've barely seen talked about...
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@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 3 месяца назад
5 points for whoever correctly identifies how many times I say "live to fight another day".
@rayweir3490
@rayweir3490 3 месяца назад
7 ( I've just said a random number )
@dido5317
@dido5317 3 месяца назад
6?
@ZTPlays-zb6jp
@ZTPlays-zb6jp 3 месяца назад
5!!
@denmlastankovic
@denmlastankovic 3 месяца назад
I think it's "only" 7 times in span of like 3mins. Thought you would get it to 8 in the end but you've changed it to "They would carry on." :D
@agent_bedrock5844
@agent_bedrock5844 3 месяца назад
@@rayweir3490 it's like 18
@danka814
@danka814 3 месяца назад
The real crime is Perez not being there to capitalize. Oscar was there, even if he didnt win.
@denmlastankovic
@denmlastankovic 3 месяца назад
And that's the problem many times in the past he would be there to capitalize but clearly now he can't do it. Couldn't deal with the Niko with fresher tyres ffs.
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 3 месяца назад
Sorry but I can't talk about that because I'll just be accused of anti Checo bias.
@kpstad
@kpstad 3 месяца назад
@@TommoMcCluskeyhad a hole in his side pod all race
@Loffacius_XVI
@Loffacius_XVI 3 месяца назад
@@TommoMcCluskey Talk what you want to talk about, people will always have an opinion
@joshualamp2438
@joshualamp2438 3 месяца назад
@@TommoMcCluskeywhen he’s 8th in the standings with 5 races left they won’t have much to say.
@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT
@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT 3 месяца назад
It’s nice that we have 4 teams competing now - Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren and Max Verstappen.
@tyranus1111
@tyranus1111 3 месяца назад
Hey man... perez is really good.... at selling shirts to mexican fans
@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT
@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT 3 месяца назад
@@tyranus1111 Mexican Minister of Defense = ❌ Mexican Minister of Sales = ✅
@mexicanopdb
@mexicanopdb 3 месяца назад
I hope Checo gets his anual win at Baku
@74_pelicans
@74_pelicans 3 месяца назад
I mean really, it's lando George Ferrari and Max
@TdotGooner.
@TdotGooner. 3 месяца назад
Max being 7 seconds ahead after 20 laps is competitive.
@psy4147
@psy4147 3 месяца назад
Love that thumbnail haha. Just seeing "NAUGHTY" with some moody side-eye from Max cracked me up for some reason
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 3 месяца назад
NAUGTEE
@vmn596
@vmn596 3 месяца назад
@@TommoMcCluskeyi can hear that in ur voice clearly 💀💀
@AverageJoeInOz
@AverageJoeInOz 3 месяца назад
@psy4147 the 'Zoolander' pout!
@dohtje5029
@dohtje5029 3 месяца назад
If you look at Max overtake on George in the sprint and at the end you see George completely switch lanes where Max had to move to the other side to overtake.. That's moving in the brake zone
@manarmsgaming9223
@manarmsgaming9223 3 месяца назад
Max and Lando bromance officially over 😄, F1 is BACK
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 3 месяца назад
Keep your uwu moments at home.
@ZTPlays-zb6jp
@ZTPlays-zb6jp 3 месяца назад
@@TommoMcCluskey hahaha!
@Dr01d1
@Dr01d1 3 месяца назад
Why? Only because you enjoy that? I remember Hakkinen and Schumacher being friends even when things went hart to hart on track! I think you mean to say Netflix is back?🙃
@Quazi-Moto
@Quazi-Moto 3 месяца назад
@@Dr01d1 hehe yeah, the Nutflex crew were creaming their pants.
@maxrichter9513
@maxrichter9513 3 месяца назад
2021 is back...
@jithu7573
@jithu7573 3 месяца назад
I mean you gotta defend your position. Hard but deserved penalty. Both were not doing clean racing. Although Max would have let Lando by if FIA had given the penalty early. Imo
@EntropicExergy
@EntropicExergy 3 месяца назад
Especially since a track limits penalty is easily concluded, no need to investigate for several laps, it's binary.
@quigglyz
@quigglyz 3 месяца назад
Lando was way dirtier and more desperate, but I'm happy it all happened. So much fun to watch.
@SmokeDatQuack
@SmokeDatQuack 3 месяца назад
Did max intend to drive Lando off there though? It looks to me that he knows he has a puncture and is trying to get off the racing line and then notices Lando is trying to over take and leaves extra space after. I think though whole issue with the drama here is there wouldn't be any if people outside of the cars didn't assume intent or what the drivers knew at the time. Racing is quick and decisions are made in an instant. Also, it was a small touch that had massive consequences. That move has been done time and time again at this track, but usually the outside driver gives room and goes wide (because there is tarmac to drive onto). If Lando did that, and done a switch-back there wouldn't be any drama here. Just like when Lando squeezed Max onto the grass last race off the start; there weren't any calls of dirty racing or how Lando needs to get a penalty or apologize, because Max took to the grass and held on to survive the rest of the race. It takes 2 to tango and I think everyone needs to just take a breath and stop being so reactionary. Also can we all stop putting our hand to our chest and acting like this is a bad thing. The craziest most chaotic year of racing we had was 2021 and it was amazing. This is exactly what this sport needs, more action, more wheel to wheel moments, some resulting in drivers losing out and some gaining. Entertainment is the name of the game and that was entertaining to me.
@BatMan-oe2gh
@BatMan-oe2gh 3 месяца назад
The straight after Turn 3 is quite long, so there was no real need to move over that quickly.
@egj1975
@egj1975 2 месяца назад
You are one of those that has a working brain. Well written and so true. And Lando has just said in an interview that "Max did not have to apologize cause he did nothing wrong"... they whole world goes crazy but the guy that was on the receiving end had no problem with it. As he said "I was upset after the race but then you have a look and get a different view". Max and Lando are fine and they both look forward to racing this weekend. Have a good day sir.
@trissyb
@trissyb 3 месяца назад
Drinking game idea: take a shot every time Tommo says ‘live to fight another day’ Result: Hammered
@back_hom3
@back_hom3 3 месяца назад
I'm a huge Lando fan, but I did sense a little desperation in moments. Same as with Max in his defense. They both made questionable moves, it just so happens one of Max's moves cost them both the race. Could have just as easily been Lando doing so on one of his dives inside. People have to remember, its much easier to judge from the other side of a monitor or tv screen. These guys are doing something most of us could never handle in these cars. It was exciting for sure, and yea technically it was Max's move that ended things, but as a Lando fan I don't hate the guy for it. Its exciting for the sport, and for the fans. Another side note, though the fan rivalry can be fun and passionate, it still should remain respectful the same as everyone is griping about with the drivers and how they drive. Doesn't really make sense to be unhinged and disrespectful towards others in a debate about which driver was more "unhinged and disrespectful" in the race ya know. Looking forward to next weekend for sure. Hope to see more tight battles there as well.
@johanfeenstra8778
@johanfeenstra8778 3 месяца назад
I will tel you this. Max needs lots of security at Silverstone. Lando in Zandvoort not, that is the differance between the Brits and the Dutch fans.
@vojtechnovacek7776
@vojtechnovacek7776 3 месяца назад
Very well written
@EntropicExergy
@EntropicExergy 3 месяца назад
@@johanfeenstra8778 There is a reason hooliganism was born in England. That says it all really.
@zachbishop5421
@zachbishop5421 3 месяца назад
It just seems like lando lacks a bit of composure in these situations since it's rather new for him to fight for wins a lot...if he can just stay a bit more calm he'll be a real challenge for the title .. I tend to think if lando just got as close as he could into turn 3 and then use the drs to pass into turn 4 and then you have the next 6 corners to build a gap for the next drs zone which I think lando could have done had he not sent those divebombs
@22_cloud
@22_cloud 3 месяца назад
@@johanfeenstra8778wouldnt it be the other way round 💀
@davidkrause7710
@davidkrause7710 3 месяца назад
Isn’t max just trying to get out of the way of the alpine?
@juggernaut316
@juggernaut316 3 месяца назад
yes. what was Lando thinking trying to pass on Max's right with a puncture?
@MajieB
@MajieB 3 месяца назад
@@juggernaut316 He wasn't that was his problem he was driving like an idiot just to get back as fast as possible which just made him eat up his floor instead. Meanwhile Max was still pretty damn calm.
@Lewythefly
@Lewythefly 3 месяца назад
Yes. And it's hard to steer when you are teetering on two wheels
@--DW
@--DW 3 месяца назад
He does cut Lando off a second time once Lando moves back to the left. Only Max will know but it looked bad.
@joshgordonmusic1
@joshgordonmusic1 3 месяца назад
No, clearly see max to overly defensive into turn 4 despite having the puncture 🤷‍♂️
@Louis-Souness
@Louis-Souness 3 месяца назад
What angered me most is that they gave Lando dotd instead of Hulk or Kmag, really made me laugh seeing him dotd.
@sound4117
@sound4117 3 месяца назад
Majority of f1 fans are hilarious, they couldn’t care less about actual racing.
@sleepypixie8828
@sleepypixie8828 3 месяца назад
Is dotd more important than max driving erratically? Nobody cares about that award
@EntropicExergy
@EntropicExergy 3 месяца назад
@@sleepypixie8828 Except Lando was the one driving erratically, until Max said enough is enough.
@Pricelessmile
@Pricelessmile 3 месяца назад
​@@EntropicExergyNo he wasn't
@EntropicExergy
@EntropicExergy 3 месяца назад
@@Pricelessmile Oh yes he was, why else did you think he got that penalty for track limits?
@sanaypatani
@sanaypatani 3 месяца назад
Initially I thought max was being petty when he crossed across the track and pushed lando in the grass but its also possible that he was just getting off the racing line because he had a puncture. Obviously he should have checked where lando was in his mirrors before doing so but I guess that happens with so much adrenaline flowing. The main thing is perez was still 17 seconds off max inspite of him getting a puncture and a 10 second penalty. I don't understand how that man got a 2 year contract extension.
@spookats1856
@spookats1856 3 месяца назад
Money. I guarantee it's just money. Well, that and publicity. He's the only Mexican driver, and as such, he brings a lot of attention from the Mexican racing scene. I promise you they're no longer keeping him on for his racing prowess lmao
@ikateeo
@ikateeo 3 месяца назад
don't quote me on this but apparently gasly was coming up the inside too, so max moved right off the racing line.
@harry4454
@harry4454 3 месяца назад
Checo had quite a big hole on his car
@stevepiccinnin1157
@stevepiccinnin1157 3 месяца назад
Man the guy gets a free pass.. from so many fans and pundits.. he’s always been that guy that crosses that line.. we just haven’t for well over year because the car has been so dominant.. i knew the old max would shine through eventually😂😂😂
@rzrpwr
@rzrpwr 3 месяца назад
He’s a merch selling machine to all of Mexico and all of South America
@Stappedllama
@Stappedllama 3 месяца назад
So last week it was all jokes and funny when Lando couldn’t get the tape measure out and ran max off but this week it’s the crime of the year?
@_aibohphobia_
@_aibohphobia_ 3 месяца назад
That's what I was actually thinking about. Max was literally ran off the road at the start of the race, but it was just called a racing incident, no-one to blame apparently and luckily no-one's race was seriously harmed. But Max gives the minimum space and as a result pushes Lando half a tire, not onto the grass like Lando did, but onto the red and white curb. Lando was getting desperate quickly and ran too close. He was making desperate mistakes breaking ahead of the final fiasco. I am a huge Lando fan but I don't think it is as clear-cut as a lot of commentators announced immediately like there hasn't been a precedence for this stuff, especially as recently as last race. Drivers like these guys always remember who ran them off the road and keep score in their heads. Max is an easy person to blame because he is so aggressive and successful. But both drivers were making minor mistakes under pressure and at some point you are going to make contact. I wish they could have battled to the end. I'm looking forward to the next season and a half because it's clearly going to be a banger period until the change of regulations!
@ever55
@ever55 3 месяца назад
​@@_aibohphobia_ someone just posted a side by side on r/formula1 of Sainz and Verstappen last year and Norris and Verstappen this year. Same place, same move, different results. Except Sainz squeezed Max completely off the track, half his car was over the curb and max left much more space. Yet, he is the villain now. I honestly believe that if Charles/Carlos was in Lando's position, there wouldn't have been contact. They might have even finished the move.
@EntropicExergy
@EntropicExergy 3 месяца назад
The double standards that come from british bias are obvious for the entire world to see. And yet they are too pigheaded on that little island to face those facts. It's really quite sad when you think about it. Oh, and Herbet being made a steward has not exactly helped this problem, quite the contrary.
@askeladden450
@askeladden450 3 месяца назад
Do you casuals know the difference between moving under braking and moving on the straight? Literally clueless.
@ever55
@ever55 3 месяца назад
@@askeladden450 lol, but he didn’t move under breaking. If you were such an expert, unlike us casuals, you would’ve seen that he didn’t.
@Dubiman42
@Dubiman42 3 месяца назад
The more I rewatched the battle, the more I think Lando lost any patience after first attempt, as a combined frustration of not winning in last few races. Would he had more experience of those battles, he had much higher chance of winning. Also they were really lacking straight speed
@bachvu3362
@bachvu3362 3 месяца назад
i think lando's thought was "he was being unfair, so i won't move over to live another lap, i'll bring you down with me", and then after that he just got out of the car, doesn't want to fight anymore even though he could score some valuable points. Maybe lando just wants people to clearly see max's moving under braking, which he was trying to point out several times before that incident but no one notice or any stewards taking any notes
@ma61king
@ma61king 3 месяца назад
Totally. All he had to do was remain calm, exercise some patience and pick his moment carefully. Even if he had made that overtake stick, it probably wouldn't have been enough when you take his inevitable penalty for track limits into account. Hell, if he'd kept it tidy he might have even been able to win from behind by letting Max get a time penalty and keeping within a few seconds of him.
@harry4454
@harry4454 3 месяца назад
@@bachvu3362his car had way more damage than verstappen. The right rear tyre tore and was hitting the car every revolution
@Vislow
@Vislow 3 месяца назад
His frustration was the way Max was driving, if anything. It's weird how people just know what someone else is thinking
@juggernaut316
@juggernaut316 3 месяца назад
the little move to the left by Max on their penultimate turn was when Lando had enough and lost all patience and the next corner he decided I'll just crash into him if he does it again.
@gabegraham9802
@gabegraham9802 3 месяца назад
In my mind max tried to get off the racing line after the puncture
@ISwearDownOnMeNansGrave
@ISwearDownOnMeNansGrave 3 месяца назад
Watch Max's on board then come back, dude looks in the mirror and turns hard right as Lando approaches.
@Arek-nb9pt
@Arek-nb9pt 3 месяца назад
I think you are right. Max tried to get out of the racing line. Lando might not have known his own tire had a puncture but he for sure must have seen Max's one. In this situation 19/20 drivers would overtake the limping car on the outside. Jumping to the inside was another erratic move from Lando. I think Lando is a great driver, but he has to learn the difference between unpredictable and reckless when fighting Max. Otherwise he will never be able to beat him on the track.
@stevenmontgomery1786
@stevenmontgomery1786 3 месяца назад
Peter Windsor’s analysis of this was spot on, Max didn’t move towards Lando - it’s a racing incident. This was such a small impact that we’ve seen countless times, and while it’s sad it resulted in both drivers losing the race and Lando DNFing that’s racing. When you have two drivers going to war for a win inevitably these incidents will occur. F1 social media are making this out to be WW3 😂
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 3 месяца назад
It’s a not a racing incident, it’s a result of Max moving his line under braking and causing a collision
@kyleolson8977
@kyleolson8977 3 месяца назад
@@Duval-In-The-Wall That's the problem. You are so sure Max moved his lin, but he didn't, and the data shows it. Despite what has been said and how it looks, Max didn't move left under breaking. Peter Windsor explains it.
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 3 месяца назад
@@kyleolson8977 Mate I watched it. Lando is on the outside, he’s there, Max moves left slightly and hits him. He’s been veering across for multiple laps so it didn’t surprise me Very obvious penalty for Max
@patrickwhite4449
@patrickwhite4449 3 месяца назад
⁠​⁠@@kyleolson8977saying “he didn’t move left” when he angles his car from the centre of the track towards the left side where lando was going and try and say “it’s not his fault” is crazy to me. He chose to squeeze lando and he paid for it. How does max go from the centre of the track to hitting lando who is as far left as he can go if max wasn’t moving to the left? Max screwed up and then acted like a child afterwards proving he hasn’t matured at all. The first race max had to actually fight for the win and he wrecks himself and the other driver.
@shu6037
@shu6037 3 месяца назад
@stevenmontgomery1786 you are an embarrasment
@Thu1111
@Thu1111 3 месяца назад
If you think the Max and Lando contact was Maxs fault you need to go to the hospital and get your brain checked. And also there have been dirtier drivers then Max, for example Schumacher, Senna, Prost, Hamilton, Alonso (And legit every driver in history that have dominated) that get praised for being dirty drivers while Max gets fucking hated by driving the same way as the drivers i named of. Like Lando is crying over racing.
@mamavswild
@mamavswild 3 месяца назад
One word: British (and their controlling of the narrative)
@Thestunningdoughnut
@Thestunningdoughnut 3 месяца назад
Wondering if max was just getting off the racing line exiting turn 3 rather than blocking Lando
@A2906-o8q
@A2906-o8q 3 месяца назад
I thought the same and so did Peter Windsor
@joncalder2477
@joncalder2477 3 месяца назад
Agree. The Alpine was coming through and Max obviously knew his car had a rear puncture. More phony spice mongering from the DTS DRAMAAHH!! crowd over a small racing incident?
@LiminalThoughts
@LiminalThoughts 3 месяца назад
Max used his mirrors for the aggressive defense in all the fighting with Lando. But the moment he got a puncture he didn't Lando alongside him? It's more believable that Max got frustrated and tried to not let Lando pass
@joshgordonmusic1
@joshgordonmusic1 3 месяца назад
Don’t think so, went defensive into turn 4 afterwards 🤷‍♂️
@44Andre
@44Andre 3 месяца назад
On his onboard camera he was looking at the right mirror, so no. He tried to squeeze again
@DenDave_
@DenDave_ 3 месяца назад
I dont really agree with the analysis on what happened after the contact. The way i see it Max was trying to get off the racing line and away from the Alpine and Lando. He knows he has the puncture but probably isnt aware of Lando's damage at that moment, he probably assumed Lando would pass on his left as a normal overtake would, so he just needs to get off the racing line. Lando in my opinion was being idiotic by driving like a madman while having damage, Max caused the colission but Lando destroyed his own floor and ended his owm race.
@Cheese-nw9qy
@Cheese-nw9qy 3 месяца назад
Totally agreed
@ThaCampinDutchman
@ThaCampinDutchman 3 месяца назад
Lommo take. Its clear Max went off the racing line to prevent further issues with fast cars. Why Norris decided to follow him in that direction and then some to put a move on is a mystery to me. By that point it was clear to him that he had a puncture, even his engineer came onto the radio by then to tell him. He should've just followed to the off-line part of the track and stay behind Max.
@alpd7638
@alpd7638 3 месяца назад
And by trying to get back to the pits faster than max, he shredded his tyre and damaged his car into a dnf.
@JoePCool14
@JoePCool14 3 месяца назад
As a Max fan, I am obliged to blame Lewis for this incident. Jokes aside, the margins were so fine out there. It was definitely a move too far, but they were both racing hard. Did Max know he had a puncture at that point? The tyre came off but sorta got itself back on for a few moments. Not saying it excused it but...
@Quazi-Moto
@Quazi-Moto 3 месяца назад
Clearly it wasn't optimal for anyone, but right after the race, Lando was acting like Max had killed his dog or something. Neither fella is free of blame. Lando could've (and in hindsight, should've) turned in behind Max, giving himself a better run out of T3. The overtake was there to be had.
@EskimoBob1337
@EskimoBob1337 3 месяца назад
So your saying he needs te drive on the racing line with 3 wheels? the last picture you even see them getting overtaken. Hes just going of the racing line cus hes on 3 wheels.
@mregbef1
@mregbef1 3 месяца назад
Speaking of “ living to fight another day” that happened a lot, especially in stages of 2021 Lewis bailing out of contact in Spain t1 Lewis following Max wide in Brazil Lewis bailing out going round the outside of Max in the sprint race in Silverstone Lewis bailing out in Jeddah All of these races Lewis won but would have crashed and lost if he did not bail out despite the fact all of them he had full right to place his car where he did. It seems Lando isn’t as patient yet but that driver iq is on its way
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 3 месяца назад
Good point well made.
@stevepiccinnin1157
@stevepiccinnin1157 3 месяца назад
Yeah thought he was impatient too.. he’ll learn from this as for Max,.. well,..he hasn’t learnt a thing😂
@patrickwhite4449
@patrickwhite4449 3 месяца назад
Lando gets blocked under breaking 3 or 4 laps in a row (sometimes multiple times in a lap) and then max wrecks lando and it’s landos fault?….. Wow.
@fizzyboy08
@fizzyboy08 3 месяца назад
But that’s the big issue with Max, and in some extent the rules. He knows he can keep racing with the “you yield or we crash” mentality because whatever punishment he gets cost the other driver more than him in the end of the day. This needs to be stamped out, and it’s making a mockery of the rules of the sport.
@EntropicExergy
@EntropicExergy 3 месяца назад
@@stevepiccinnin1157 Max has learnt plenty, Lando is the one who just doesn't seem to learn. Six years in the sport and not even able to do a proper overtake. Nah, you have got it all wrong. Let me guess, british? Would explain that bias of yours nicely.
@aidan_3385
@aidan_3385 3 месяца назад
Charles did the same thing in T3 back in 2022 to Max and nothing happened. Just saying😬😬
@alexanderrodley1287
@alexanderrodley1287 3 месяца назад
Yeah, the best example would be Vettel against Hamilton as Tommo showed in the video. We can see Vettel does the same action of moving under breaking and squeezing ham on the outside and he actually leaves less room than max did. But I also see how it can be considered Max fault. It just a tough one.
@aidan_3385
@aidan_3385 3 месяца назад
@@alexanderrodley1287 it’s just a racing inchident instead of one person’s fault
@nkmcfrln
@nkmcfrln 3 месяца назад
They just talked about it after the race.
@LDTOK-zs8oz
@LDTOK-zs8oz 3 месяца назад
This type of crash is in his DNA and Crashtappen is back.😢
@harry4454
@harry4454 3 месяца назад
Did Charles take himself and max out of the race? No
@xqs329
@xqs329 3 месяца назад
Lando dive bombing is not also getting talked about here. He didn't just wanna pass Max, he wanted to PASS Max with loads of aggression. He basically wanted to drag his nuts on his face to put the whole 'he is soft' behind like Russell said, and Max was not having any of that.
@EricBrown-w2p
@EricBrown-w2p 3 месяца назад
That’s just bs divebombing is allowed as long as it is done fairly which he did 4 times out of 5 one time Max had enough space to try to stay on the track (2019 for example Leclerc Austria) Lando realized divebombing wasn’t working and instead went for a switchback a completely logical and not a divebomb move and as soon as that happened Max turned into him (I think it was unintentional and maybe he didn’t see him) but lando had every right to room on the track which was not given and in my opinion Lando would have got him there with DRS
@EntropicExergy
@EntropicExergy 3 месяца назад
@@EricBrown-w2p If a divebomb is so bad you can't even slow down enough to make the turn, it certainly isn't. That's why he got track limits warnings and a penalty, though that penalty should have been given far sooner. But hey, Max still gained ten points on Lando, so the joke is on him and his poor driving.
@xqs329
@xqs329 3 месяца назад
@@EricBrown-w2p dive bombing might not be illegal per se but it does invoke what Max did.
@counterpress
@counterpress 3 месяца назад
Max dive bombed in 2021 multiple times and now his turned into a hypocrit by judging Lando for the same moves his pulled and let's not forget how many times Max would miss the Apex
@EntropicExergy
@EntropicExergy 3 месяца назад
@@counterpress Except Max did it right, since he always made the turn. He never got track limits warnings and penalty's. That's because Max is better.
@cjsawinski
@cjsawinski 3 месяца назад
This type of shit is exactly why I don’t have the same reverence for F1 that I did 20 years ago. It’s racing!!! Max did nothing wrong imo (yup not a popular opinion), sooo sick of this SOFT world lol.
@juggernaut316
@juggernaut316 3 месяца назад
Max was just getting off the racing line. Lando ruined his car trying to run full speed instead of driving slowly back to the pits like Max did.
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 3 месяца назад
Getting shoved off into the grass definitely didn’t help
@ThaCampinDutchman
@ThaCampinDutchman 3 месяца назад
@@Duval-In-The-Wall That was clearly self inflicted. Max moved off-line, why you then would follow him in that direction and THEN put a move on even further off-line is 100% on Lando himself.
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 3 месяца назад
@@ThaCampinDutchman Some people will really say anything to avoid blaming Max. He clearly wasn’t expecting him to cut across the track like that
@Verziroo
@Verziroo 3 месяца назад
@@ThaCampinDutchman”why would you then follow him”, wtf are you talking about? Lando chose the outside line because Max was defending the inside, and then Max veered left and caused the collision. No space for Lando. Put your bias aside and look at it logically.
@quigglyz
@quigglyz 3 месяца назад
@@Duval-In-The-Wall grow up
@ImInLoveWithBulla
@ImInLoveWithBulla 2 месяца назад
Everyone crying that Max is a dirty driver are the same ones who worship Schumi and Senna as gods, and most of them are too young to have seen them racing in their prime. They were dirty, underhanded sons of bitches. Great drivers, yes. But moving under braking? Screw that. They’d blatantly torpedo you in a potentially fatal crash in order to maintain their points lead.
@iLevente
@iLevente 3 месяца назад
The way I see it in the crash is Max wanted a little bit better exit and thought that Lando was goint to go to the kerbs, so he'll get a better exit. Still Max's fault tho. Can't deny that.
@NearioNL
@NearioNL 3 месяца назад
I think people are blowing this up, just because one of the 2 is british and the other is Max I think I saw Lando pushing max of track last race, no issues there as well Max is in the wrong, the penatly was correct - but nothing more then that, not worth any debate. Wasnt that big. Tbf "opening the corner" cq sqeezing like this, is one of the most normals things in F1. The thing after the crash though, where Max really blocked lando - that one I have an issue with. All the rest, really only the Englsih have an issue with
@F1_Continued
@F1_Continued 3 месяца назад
this is giving off strong lewis and rosberg vibes🤔
@darthconquerus
@darthconquerus 3 месяца назад
Everyone’s friends until there’s something to fight for
@F1_Continued
@F1_Continued 3 месяца назад
@@darthconquerus yeah exactly
@Elisabeth-ts4lb
@Elisabeth-ts4lb 2 месяца назад
Every single driver who was asked about Max today (15 of them) defended Max, and said Max didn’t do anything crazy. Many even saying he should not have been penalized. Your bias against him is appalling
@matiasbiondolillo5217
@matiasbiondolillo5217 3 месяца назад
The incident has gotten out of control because of the result and because it was at the lead, IMO. Sure Max was at fault, but 9 out of 10 times a touch like that ends with one of them going a bit wide and that's it, not with both cars getting a puncture. We see touches like that at every race, don't know why people act like Verstappen tried to kill Norris. 1- You could smell it was gonna happen, race control could just give Max a warning and you avoid the clash. Even Lando's penalty took so long and it was pretty straightforward. 2- Time for the FIA to start penalizing for the consequences, not the cause. It only leads to penalties with no real impact on the race... which leads to another off-track penalty so it can have an impact... what?
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 3 месяца назад
Time for the FIA to bring back the drive-through, if you crash into your competitor you should forfeit at least that much
@livefast-xc8lm
@livefast-xc8lm 3 месяца назад
Yea you’re really bias at this point… there are literal x f1 champions saying this wasn’t checked in the past most specifically 2021 but here’s tommo from social media saying it’s alright max. Such utter nonsense. Max has always been this way… you’re bias is showing
@cooperpires
@cooperpires 3 месяца назад
Ah man, these Lando Fanboys LOL, Lando has not the experience to fight Max yet, those divebombs just prove it, crazy drive from him
@biljancanin
@biljancanin 3 месяца назад
Max's trademark are divebombs and shoving others off the track. You never heard about Crashstappen? Nasty fella who can't drive clean...
@quigglyz
@quigglyz 3 месяца назад
Lando is too immature. Hasn't learned anything since Sochi.
@ajegelin
@ajegelin 3 месяца назад
People are acting like max killed lando. It is really being blown out of proportion. It was such a light touch with big consequences but it wasn’t nearly as dangerous as say what Hamilton did to max in Silverstone. The British bias is so tiresome. Will buxton going unhinged on the post race show shows it all too well.
@patrickwalsh1883
@patrickwalsh1883 3 месяца назад
Boy I look forward to the dedicated video on lando start in Spain, because you must be fair Tom
@VANITY80
@VANITY80 2 месяца назад
You’re an English paid influencer, you are told what to say. Your opinion has no relevance.
@dopy8418
@dopy8418 3 месяца назад
I Don’t like max but if you Make a deep dive ( a real one) on his penalty, with all the angles , you will see that he sees him at the very last moment and tried to avoid Norris. Your analysis is very shallow.
@Marcel-ct9wq
@Marcel-ct9wq 3 месяца назад
True, just before point of contact you can see Max looking left for a split second and turn right immediately. First time he saw him there
@BatMan-oe2gh
@BatMan-oe2gh 3 месяца назад
What? The overhead clearly shows Max squeezing Lando approaching the corner. He has moved from the middle of the track towards the left. He would have known Lando was there, the cars do have mirrors. Lando held his ground, but you can still see Lando has to move towards the white line to avoid Max. And then the stunt Max pulled after the corner was a joke. He should have copped a DQ for that. That could have caused Lando's puncture, and it could have easily caused Lando to spin out and hit the wall. The only shallow analysis is yours.
@alpd7638
@alpd7638 3 месяца назад
Squeezing happens all the time. You can see examples every race. You can see examples at that exact corner from this and previous years.ax didn't do anything unusual. And after the corner, he was clearly trying to get off the racing line and out the way of the Alpine
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 3 месяца назад
@@BatMan-oe2gh Look at the onboard, Max chose his line then applied the brake, Norris didn't have to put himself in that disappearing gap. Max also didn't pull a stunt after it, he got off the racing line, Lando is just unintelligent as af so he decided to overtake the guy on 3 tires on the right, literal first year of karting level mistake.
@BatMan-oe2gh
@BatMan-oe2gh 3 месяца назад
@@kristoffer3000 Look at the overhead. Max moved right first in the braking zone and then moved left across into Lando. The straight after Turn 3 is quite long, so Max could have stayed there longer before crossing, and then he stayed on the line into Turn 4. Jolyon Palmer gives a perfect example, and he drove in F1, so I will listen to him before any armchair commentor. And I believe Lando got the puncture when Max pushed him off the track onto the grass.
@keenan170
@keenan170 2 месяца назад
The way a racing incident has been over exaggerated is crazy😂 hard racing on the limit! What we like to see!
@Emulator833
@Emulator833 3 месяца назад
I think Max was just getting out of the racing line because he had a puncture and actually makes a correction towards left when he sees Lando but not sure maybe he was high on adrenaline and he thought he was still in the fight and needed to block Lando.
@Crippledfrenchfry
@Crippledfrenchfry 3 месяца назад
To me it actually looks like max is trying to get out of the way off of the racing line and Lando just decided to try to get around him on the wrong side
@tomsoyer5639
@tomsoyer5639 3 месяца назад
He had a puncture mate. For reference check Lando's onboard for how unstable a car with 3 wheels is.
@hydrasalesman9629
@hydrasalesman9629 3 месяца назад
Don't know if you knew, but Max also had a puncture.
@AtolaniOyewumi
@AtolaniOyewumi 3 месяца назад
tommo late night drop👀
@einezcrespo2107
@einezcrespo2107 3 месяца назад
We have to remember Max did those questionable moves in the past that caused the FIA to make rule about late breaking. Max didn't handle it like an adult after complaining to his engineer. Andrea Stella was correct that this wasn't handled very well when Max was racing against Lewis, Max hasn't changed one bit.
@mamavswild
@mamavswild 3 месяца назад
Good! and i hope your tears are nice and salty when the dutch national anthem plays at Silverstone!
@flamingburritto
@flamingburritto 3 месяца назад
I think max knows. In the post race interview he was very calm, and responded maturely. Let's see what happens in the future races.
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 3 месяца назад
He won’t learn, there will be more moving under braking and more incidents The stewards won’t do anything until there is a literal crash
@EntropicExergy
@EntropicExergy 3 месяца назад
@@Duval-In-The-Wall Lando won't learn, Max has learnt plenty already. Plus, gained ten points on Lando, so the joke is on Lando and his poor driving.
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 3 месяца назад
@@EntropicExergy Max has been making the same types of moves for 8 years now, he clearly hasn’t learned You are just anti-Lando, maybe because he had the temerity to actually try to race Max lol
@KKH3110
@KKH3110 3 месяца назад
@@Duval-In-The-Wall Learn what? Being a loser? Elite mentality is like that. He is making the same types of moves because it works. Next time he tries it, Lando will know for sure that he will be the one to make the choice, either crash or back up. You can keep the clean racing award.
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 3 месяца назад
@@KKH3110 Which is exactly my point. Max will not get penalized for that so he will keep doing it, and we will have more incidents I think we’ll start to see Norris race him the same way, because again, the stewards will not do anything until there is contact
@daphnelovesL
@daphnelovesL 3 месяца назад
And you did you see the Alpine behind Verstappen?
@rileyrolstone
@rileyrolstone 3 месяца назад
Genuine question, how do we even know that that was intentional on Max's part? A lot of people have raised the possibility that he could have been moving off the racing line with the puncture. I think a lot of people are making biased assumptions about intentionality and pretending they can read people's minds. Should Max be asked about pushing Lando onto the grass post-puncture?Of course. Could it have been intentional? Also yes. But I think there are also reasonable explanations for why he did that other than just being petty (like the Alpine at full race speed right behind them). But because it's Max I think people assume the worst automatically.
@Snaakie83
@Snaakie83 3 месяца назад
Yep, it's just British fangirls regurgitating whatever those miscreants at skysports scream.
@rileyrolstone
@rileyrolstone 3 месяца назад
@@Snaakie83 I've seen a lot of british pundits and journos talking about how Lando "should" have won this or that Max "robbed" Lando of a win. And it's like so many people have decided that because McLaren has the fastest car (and because Max has won so many races and Lando only one) that Lando is entitled to more. And that's just wild to me Yes, Lando *could* have won the race, but he didn't. If he had qualified pole or had gotten a better start from P2 he could maybe have pulled away instead of Max. Maybe he could have been the one to hold Max off or squeeze him into the wall like Barcelona but his start was poor and slow and he was on the backfoot. It's unfortunate but when racing Max Verstappen you have to be perfect to win, and he wasn't. It's not fair but we've seen it's the reality. (sorry for the rant!!!)
@nigeljones482
@nigeljones482 3 месяца назад
Stop with the backseat comments, this is racing and you were not driving, so please stop talking about what you do know.
@h077y
@h077y 2 месяца назад
There are rules for a reason. It makes a mockery out of the sport when a driver is consistently allowed to break said rules (and very dangerously so at that) and have zero repercussions
@cian69
@cian69 3 месяца назад
The attitude of Red Bull and Christian Horner is the biggest issue imo. They’re enabling his aggression by blaming everyone but him. He races hard and does go over the limit at times (as many drivers do), but it seems that he is immune to being called out into it by his team.
@aintcitrus6612
@aintcitrus6612 3 месяца назад
Bro every team is biased towards their drivers and will always say (in the moment) their driver is not at fault. Is it wrong? Probably, but still it's quite normal for every team to do that.
@tyranus1111
@tyranus1111 3 месяца назад
Christian horner is a james bond villan. Dont expect anything more.
@wazowski97
@wazowski97 3 месяца назад
Yeah obviously Red Bull will back him. Have you never played sports in your life? Unless you did something unforgivable your team will always back you
@ey1615
@ey1615 3 месяца назад
Nothing what Max did was overly aggressive or out of the ordinary this race. It's the opposite. Lando was the aggressive one. In Barcelona too. But Max bad I guess.
@arjenkersing
@arjenkersing 3 месяца назад
No team is calling out their own driver...
@tobycc3469
@tobycc3469 3 месяца назад
lando pushed max onto the grass at barcelona
@TheBismarck-th6sf
@TheBismarck-th6sf 3 месяца назад
Everyone forgets Lando shoving max onto the grass the race before this one, but it's apparently fine because no contact was made. F1 fans seem to go soft as soon as there's actual hard racing.
@htpr_ice2360
@htpr_ice2360 3 месяца назад
I just want to say that I had DRS George Russell, Oscar Piastri, Carlos Sainz AND Nico Hulkenberg in my fantasy. Thanks Lando and Max
@hecker2274
@hecker2274 3 месяца назад
Bro says max do better mate he hes doing better than you brotha hes earning millions unlike you making youtube videos 😂
@MatthiaGryffine
@MatthiaGryffine 3 месяца назад
So Max is back to his 2019 self?
@ryanpkk
@ryanpkk 3 месяца назад
you’re totally forgetting about lando just absolutely dive bombing several times.
@biljancanin
@biljancanin 3 месяца назад
But he can do that. That is allowed until you hit someone and he didn't. Max's whole career was divebombs, crashes and moving while breaking
@saquon25
@saquon25 3 месяца назад
Dive bombing is allowed. Max’s divebombs won him the title in 2021 yet he whines when its done on him.
@hamishcounsell5579
@hamishcounsell5579 3 месяца назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HItx9q4GLJs.html Lando was just giving Max a taste of his of own medicine
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 3 месяца назад
“Several” as in twice, and only once did he leave the track
@EntropicExergy
@EntropicExergy 3 месяца назад
@@biljancanin Not when you force the other guy and yourself off, like Lando was doing. Or did you think he got that penalty without an actual reason? Too bad the stewards were too slow with said penalty, that could have avoided all of this. When Max divebombed, he did it in such a way he could still make the turn and not leave the track. That is the difference between him and Lando, Max has the skills to do it right, Lando doesn't and it showed yesterday.
@krisz48
@krisz48 3 месяца назад
That squeeze was just unlucky. You could see that Max was already aiming to go off the line when he rejoined, because he saw that a faster car was approaching (Ocon I think). Also, when he noticed Norris coming, he instantly straightened his car out, to give him space.
@AdvaitChatterji
@AdvaitChatterji 3 месяца назад
While I agree Max was at fault for the eventual crash, they were both treading on thin ice for a bit there. Lando divebombing and forcing Max off and Max moving under braking, you could see the collision coming a mile away. I think the reactions are way out of proportion though, this isn't like Imola or Brazil against Lewis where it was deliberate and bad driving or a dirty manoeuvre on Max's part, he did leave Lando room but he made a mistake and they crashed. Overall, really gutted for Lando and I hope it won't be the end of the bromance and that we'll get to see some more battles on track especially like the ones we saw between Charles and Max in early 2022.
@EricBrown-w2p
@EricBrown-w2p 3 месяца назад
While I agree Lando was divebombing Max it’s allowed it’s racing and he did it perfectly fine except for one time where Max should have tried to make more of an effort to stay on track there was space to at least have one wheel but he just used the curbs to get even further and didn’t slow down. Lando was divebombing but it was clean except for one time where he had a slight lock up. Max did the same thing in 2019 and won the race against Leclerc it was the exact same maybe a little less room but Leclerc tried to stay on track. Max was completely at fault for the collision. Though I think Lando has every right to be mad (maybe not this mad) look at China this year Ric and Stroll he didn’t take the blame and it pissed him off. It is the exact same thing because Max is at fault and everyone knows it deep down (except for the people who actually hate Lando for winning now for some reason) but yeah I think Lando has the right to be upset Max is the one who won’t admit he is wrong.
@Quazi-Moto
@Quazi-Moto 3 месяца назад
Genuine question: How is Max's squeezing Lando any different (in principle) than Lando squeezing Max onto the grass at the beginning of the race in Spain?
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 3 месяца назад
Well you see Lando is British so it's not even close to similar actually. Max knows what he did when he chose to be born in the wrong country.
@Roguescienceguy
@Roguescienceguy 3 месяца назад
Watch the onboard. When he accelerated away with his flat he was steering to the left, but his car wanted to go right. That was the problem
@roastingminer6919
@roastingminer6919 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂
@JoePCool14
@JoePCool14 3 месяца назад
You mean it wanted to go right?
@C41N4
@C41N4 3 месяца назад
Max fans are worse than Horner… will always blame something else other than realize Max was wrong for what he did. 🤡 🤡
@74_pelicans
@74_pelicans 3 месяца назад
​@@JoePCool14no, that's the joke
@Roguescienceguy
@Roguescienceguy 3 месяца назад
@@JoePCool14 yeah, that. I got a bit carried away from explaining everyone with zero f1-knowledge that actually Max has been doing as much as humanly possible to not fight Lando. He has never been so clean and forgiving as against Lando until the crazy divebombes happened and that he couldn't anticipate, they touch and those new high rims are worthless compared to the old spec, both have a car that goes all over the place while they have to make sure they were both of the racingline. I hope that Lando will put Zak on mute and analyses everything with Andrea Stella. Max has been overly aggressive towards everyone and their grandma, but today he most definitely wasn't
@bobkeul7682
@bobkeul7682 Месяц назад
@TommoOnRU-vid A British talking about Max.... right... very plausible. Perhaps you should overhype Lewis... Btw if you did you homework.. check the year before with Leclerc...
@ArjanRV24
@ArjanRV24 3 месяца назад
Max did not push Lando off on purpose here imo. Max gets back on the track, is not accelerating as much and gets off the racing line. Lando is accelerating more and tries to get in front even with a puncture. Max is just minding his own business at this point imo.
@ArchEvil666
@ArchEvil666 3 месяца назад
It was possibly a 'heat of the moment' reaction from Max. Maybe in the moment Max blamed the contact on Lando and after he realized he got a puncture he became irritated, thinking 'You screwed up my race, I'm certainly not going to let you pass now!'. We've seen this behaviour in sim-races, whenever Max feels someone has wronged him he doesn't shy away from taking his revenge. I'm a big Max fan myself but I found this moment during the race questionable. This is just speculation from my part. For all we know he was simply moving away from the racing line. But I'm very interested in the aftermath. If they're indeed good friends, maybe they'll sit down together, watch and analyse the moment back together, then hopefully there'll be no hard feelings. Or we could have another Rosberg/Hamilton situation on our hands. Time will tell. The next races will definitely be interesting!
@RBenjo21
@RBenjo21 3 месяца назад
Martin Brundle said it live on commentary. “He still doesn’t want to let him through.”
@arjenkersing
@arjenkersing 3 месяца назад
Mate, he wants to get off the racing line. Calm you teets...
@lemarkexyz2931
@lemarkexyz2931 3 месяца назад
Ted : " welcome to the world of racing max verstappen"... Just some British dudes venting out their 2021 frustration 😂
@Verziroo
@Verziroo 3 месяца назад
@@arjenkersing”Wants to get off the racing line”, how convenient. Excuses for every possible scenario lol. If this was the other way around then you’d be out with the pitchforks.
@Crazycatman
@Crazycatman 3 месяца назад
@@Verzirooyou obliviously didn’t watch it? He has a puncture mate and he knew that. and there was a alpine comming at high speeds so he got off the race line to let him past. Why the hell was Lando even trying to pass him from that side.
@Evan102030
@Evan102030 2 месяца назад
All should listen to what Button said on Sky F1. Crybaby media just need villain for clickbait. Norris botched it himself more than Max did anything outside the rules. But he does use every trick in the book and Lando can't quite hang with Max in terms of racing IQ. Neither could Charles. We all know Verstappen is always on another level.
@AlicontradictsAle
@AlicontradictsAle 3 месяца назад
He's moving off the racing line to make way for the incoming Alpine, considering he had a puncture. It had nothing to do with pushing Lando off track.
@JohnKuhles1966
@JohnKuhles1966 3 месяца назад
Please ALL CALM DOWN and study Peter Windsor take on it ... He vindicated Max Verstappen perfectly! ... No Joke
@jiggy7108
@jiggy7108 3 месяца назад
5:20 Max didn't intentionally drive Lando off the road. He realized he had a puncture and then just veered off the racing line. Sure, a bit more awareness is needed but it was absolutely not intentional
@andrewborrelli1512
@andrewborrelli1512 3 месяца назад
nah Lando just as much to blame
@EricBrown-w2p
@EricBrown-w2p 3 месяца назад
No he ain’t the laps before for nothing to do with Max turning into him when he is going for a switchback and not divebombing in this instance. Lando was aggressive but fair for most of the divebombing that happened he had complete control which is good and should not be considered divebombing to me. When Lando locked up and forced Max off I think Max should have stayed much more closer to the curb and to the road he still had space to at least try to but instead left the track when there still was some space (look at 2019 it is basically the exact same thing but no one complained then) it’s close for that but overall Max is clearly to blame.
@SlyJordie
@SlyJordie 3 месяца назад
the double standards are palpable. why is Lando allowed to drive dirty but as soon as Max does it, everyone loses their mind?!
@alexpickering735
@alexpickering735 3 месяца назад
@@SlyJordie facts
@garythefishable
@garythefishable 3 месяца назад
Max is arguably a marked man for this stuff which is why people tend to get a bit more mad about it.
@zbreezy95
@zbreezy95 3 месяца назад
Go take a shower
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 3 месяца назад
If by "dirty driving" do you mean the dive bombs? If so, it's important to remember that IF Max was moving under braking, that will affect how efficiently Lando is able to stop his car.
@kingdodongo4126
@kingdodongo4126 3 месяца назад
????????? Have you seen F1 since 2015? You think Max being dirty is a new thing?
@BrianGuilfoos
@BrianGuilfoos 3 месяца назад
As a Norris fan, I was livid at this. Max has a clear puncture, and then forcing Lando off the track in this petulant move? Insane. I'm relatively new to F1, about 2 seasons in, and I now get why people are always so negative about Max lol. He's good, that's clear, but is this what he's like when he's being regularly challenged? (From what I understand when he was fighting Lewis, yes.)
@undergroundalienstudios56
@undergroundalienstudios56 3 месяца назад
100% Norris had been pushing Max wide and not leaving space, and just over a week ago Norris ran Max off the road too. I'm boreline 100% sure that this was Max just saying 'fine -- he gets away with it, and he wants to bully me around - I'll do the same. He picked the rules of engagement.' This is 100% a 'Norris can give it but can't take' it situation, and Norris feels entitled to push harder because he wants it more, hasn't always had a good car, etc. If you ask me, I think Max was being a jerk for giving Norris back a taste of his own medicine. That isn't how you treat people. But also, Norris has been doing the same stuff lap after lap and race after race and just gets away with it because we all want him to do well / we root for the underdog / we're tired of Max winning? Why can't you just have a consistent set of rules that apply to everyone on every lap? Regardless of whether they're champions or if they won 20 in a row. It shouldn't matter if it's last lap or championship deciding whatever. Rules are rules, and we have cameras and data now. Create a set of rules which are testable and reliable, then stick to them. If the current rules are too grey to be enforceable, then they're bad rules -- and if you let Norris get away with it for several races / laps in a row -- then you have to let Max get away with it too. Instead, they just penalized both of them after the fact. Fair enough. They both deserve it.
@VicCross
@VicCross 3 месяца назад
What are you on about? Are you seriously suggesting that after they collided, both cars being damaged that Max OR Lando are able to race out of that corner as if nothing happened? Lando should not have gone in so aggressively. Period. He knows that at THAT corner, the optimal line is to take it a little wider. He was BEHIND Max right up until he wasn't, which is right when they touched. You want to penalize Max for taking that wide line. Fair play. But you have to do that throughout the race and for anyone who takes that line. But you don't get to accuse a driver of purposefully causing contact by doing the same thing they had done many times around that corner. And you certainly can't suggest he purposely tried to push Lando off. Just silly. Also, did you make the same content about Lando in Spain? Because off the start, he actually DID push MAx into the grass LOL. Point being. Neither driver was being "naughty". They were both racing.
@joppedegroot5350
@joppedegroot5350 3 месяца назад
Racing incident. Max squeezed , lando had enough space to back off but didn't and choose to fight and then there was contact.
@glenntaylor9144
@glenntaylor9144 3 месяца назад
Lando’s tyres were on the curb, you can hardly say he had more space, especially when max pulled left and there were decelerating and needing to turn sharp right. The issue is solely Max. There is a lot more to come from this.
@williamvanderscheer4327
@williamvanderscheer4327 3 месяца назад
​@@glenntaylor9144 last year Max got squeezed in that corner by sainz harder than max squeezed Lando today. Max went much further over the kerb and Overtook. You cant honestly day there was no room for Lando to go wider
@schlumpy982
@schlumpy982 3 месяца назад
Squeezing someone off the track is illegal and counterintuitive to 'good racing'. There is no defensive skill involved in shutting the door. And similarly there is no amount of offensive skill that can counter this brain-dead tactic.
@mariusmihai1292
@mariusmihai1292 3 месяца назад
The denial….
@mariusmihai1292
@mariusmihai1292 3 месяца назад
@@williamvanderscheer4327is not about squeezing.
@aoife1122
@aoife1122 3 месяца назад
I'd say, "Stuka" Lando has brought this upon himself... after he bottled the start in Barcelona and forced Max on the grass he can't really complain about Max paying him back in kind, now, can he? And then pathetically whinging into the microphones that he may have a bit of respect for Max again if he only admits to being stupid? That'll be a cold day in hell. We should also question the role of Johnny Herbert and the other race stewards in this. Why did they leave the decision to penalize Norris for his blatant track limit violations (which got him back into DRS range in the first place) until after the race? They were quick to dish out time penalties or everything else yesterday. Had they saddled Norris with the obligatory 5-second penalty immediately it would have been a simple matter of "After you, sir" for Verstappen.
@Switll72
@Switll72 3 месяца назад
Funny how all the Brits came out of the woodwork again saying I told you so 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 This was nothing more than hard racing and they where both at fault for this. If the FIA did there bloody job and called Lando's (AKA The Torpedo) track limits 3 laps earlier this would not have happened, there was nothing to investigate he went off the track after a black and white flag end of story!!!. Meanwhile it took them one full lap to decide Max had a 10 sec penalty 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Also Max got off the racing line to let the drivers pass nothing Malicious from Max but as i said "THE BRITS ARE BACK AND MOANING AS PER USUAL" go look at on boards even Lando was like I'm not racing anymore Max is fighting me too hard 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 Even more funny is that Max doesn't give a F@ck what any of you think this is F1 if you cant take the heat stay out of the kitchen !!!!!!!!!!
@johanfeenstra8778
@johanfeenstra8778 3 месяца назад
FIA did not give Lando a penalty for entertainment reasons not because it was the right thing to do. So the Fia fucked it up again.
@Switll72
@Switll72 3 месяца назад
@@johanfeenstra8778 People are really "Snowflakes" Barcelona 2024 - Lando push Max on to the grass by half a car width .... Everybody says its just hard racing !!!! Austria 2024 - Lando drive into the back of Max on track after several questionable torpedo attempts ..... Everybody MAX is such a dirt driver !!!! If you really want to know what happened ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1aUP8Mz8Vkk.htmlsi=H8aslNkTQHO3TpJQ
@Switll72
@Switll72 3 месяца назад
@@johanfeenstra8778 People are really "Snowflakes" Barcelona 2024 - Lando push Max on to the grass by half a car width because Max takes avioding action.... Everybody says it's just hard racing !!!! Austria 2024 - Lando and Max touch briefly on track because Lando couldn't make 3 previous torpedo's work ..... Everybody MAX is such a dirty driver !!!! If you really want to know what happened ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1aUP8Mz8Vkk.htmlsi=H8aslNkTQHO3TpJQ
@GewoonGw
@GewoonGw 3 месяца назад
I believe pushing lando to the grass wasn't on purpose. He looked in the mirror to cross the track and then stays off-line to not hinder anyone else. Lando just happens to drive to the gap that was gonna close. I dont think that was deliberate. But max could have done it for sure...
@mustaphachedid6013
@mustaphachedid6013 3 месяца назад
Go to sleep Tommo, it’s 2am mate
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 3 месяца назад
Depends whether or not I'm in Engerlund
@angrysquid666
@angrysquid666 3 месяца назад
It's called competitive racing. The hate Max receives by uk fans, pundits and journos is absolutely Vile and Toxic as Fuck. They are driving the fastest cars in the world with milliseconds to make driver decisions. Most ppl who are criticizing Max have no racing experience at all. Coupled with the fact that 1 second F1 is boring and now it's getting fighty ppl are crying over it. It's pathetic. 😂😂
@joshualamp2438
@joshualamp2438 3 месяца назад
No one gave a shit when Lando forced Max off the track last week, that’s racing.
@renaldonel8897
@renaldonel8897 3 месяца назад
I agree with you,, after his Tyre blew, he shouldn't have push Lando off track,,, But last week at the start,,, Lando had pushed Max off the track onto the grass.. My point is,,, they all do stuff like this, Not just Max...Lando had about 10 laps left,,with new tyre's, he was to much of in a hurry to go pass Max...Lando went of track, he locked up few time's,, he was not thinking about the best place to drive pass Max..
@Tommage
@Tommage 3 месяца назад
Omg everyone needs to grow up, they're adults and racers with championship mentalities. Shit happens they will get over it
@Zeverinsen
@Zeverinsen 3 месяца назад
I think Lando didn't stray further into the curbs, because he genuinely thought Max would play fair and not push him off like that. His respect for Max probably made him think that there's no way Max would do him so dirty, and honestly, I agree because I was a bit shocked too. I think Max squeezed him out in purpose and intentionally tried to slow Lando down, but accidentally made him puncture. I'm not a Max fan, but I thought of him as a respectable driver...
@gundamzerostrike
@gundamzerostrike 3 месяца назад
Max is like Senna and Schumacher. He would rather crash than let someone steal his win. He is like that, he knows he's like that and he'll always be like that. He's gonna do it again. Norris needs to be very careful next time.
@CreedBratton2234
@CreedBratton2234 3 месяца назад
Braking for that corner starts just barely after the 100m board. If you watch the overhead crash clip back, Max is pointing at the apex well past that board. Around the 50m board, he changes course to the outside of the track, directly into the path of the Mclaren... However you look at it, that's moving under braking. Sure, Lando could've gone over the kerb a bit, but that rule is there not only for fair racing but also because it's bloody dangerous to do so. Max showed that complete disregard for his fellow racer's (and friend) safety lap after lap after lap. There's no excuse. Im a big fan of motoGP, and if you're found at fault for crashing out another rider, you receive a grid place penalty at the next race. 10 seconds, which doesn't even affect him in the end, is an insult.
@joshgee8714
@joshgee8714 3 месяца назад
More British bias.... blah blah tommo
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 3 месяца назад
A very intelligent well thought out rebuttal that Josh 👍
@joshgee8714
@joshgee8714 3 месяца назад
@@TommoMcCluskey thanks heaps
@asian_sammy2022
@asian_sammy2022 3 месяца назад
​@@TommoMcCluskeythe Brit bias is true.
@vitreo1363
@vitreo1363 3 месяца назад
@@TommoMcCluskey It's what happens when you normalize VER's behavior… now everyone thinks that anyone criticizing him for doing what he's always done must be "British bias".
@MG-tl1hy
@MG-tl1hy 3 месяца назад
verstappen fans talk like they're being persecuted lmao
@harryberman4320
@harryberman4320 3 месяца назад
There was more room for Lando than Lando gave Max in Spain... it was a strong fight, unfortunately it went awry. What I find amazing is the vitriol ... Lando needs to grow up and learn from this, Max has shown he is not a machine and makes mistakes. Lando also destroyed his own car.... he could have still scored some points. Other than that NEXT RACE.....
@swl0323
@swl0323 3 месяца назад
How Max let himself down? He extend the driver championship lead by 10points 😂
@HBee5
@HBee5 3 месяца назад
People reacting to this like it's WWIII 😂This was the tiniest touch which unfortunately ended with damage for both. I can't stand the F1 media and socials sometimes. It's just people storing up years of bias and hate waiting for one little incident to let it all out. In my opinion, Max didn't steer to left from his onboard, Lando came in fast with DRS, these things happen. Calm the fuck down everyone.
@luluofthelake
@luluofthelake 3 месяца назад
Where was all this outrage when Lando knowingly and willingly pushed Verstappen off track off the line at Spain? It feels like we're applying double standards because something something mad max something something 2021. It takes two to tango.
@christopherberry8519
@christopherberry8519 3 месяца назад
Max's Grandmother is getting a new set of balls. Would you rather they race or because of DRS - the car without DRS must yield? Many commentators are becoming expert at whining "it's not fair". Honestly, I can barely get my head around who is significantly alongside, leave enough room, take the racing line, leaving enough room for the racing line, car overtaking with a 5 second penalty. Trying to make it fair for everyone is not what racing is about. I'd take a point away from each team and driver that points their fingers at the opposition. We've finally got cars racing wheel to wheel and a whole bunch of people seem not to like it. maybe take up model train racing where the vehicles are stuck to rails. It limits overtaking but I guess it's fair...
@ImmaBeBored
@ImmaBeBored 3 месяца назад
It’s a racing incident. It was bound to happen from all those Lando Divebombs before the contact 😂
@jjc7317
@jjc7317 3 месяца назад
Fans look at the second incident between Norris and max through the eyes of people who drive a maximum of 80 maybe 90 mph on a motorway. F1 drivers can see and react to hazards much quicker than we can. Even if what max did wasn’t fair by trying to push Norris off, but Norris was doing the same thing into turn 3 a few times before. Nico did it to Lewis in 2016, and they both crashed, max knew lando would back out there. Lando tried to fight max with his own medicine and it just didn’t work out
@melissapetzer3560
@melissapetzer3560 3 месяца назад
100% agree. I dont know why nobody is talking about this. How he pushed him to the grass. Unacceptable. Bring back drive through penalties
@MartinRiggs1820
@MartinRiggs1820 3 месяца назад
Maybe F1 academy is more your speed? Aggressive racing is hard and fair.
@melissapetzer3560
@melissapetzer3560 3 месяца назад
@@MartinRiggs1820 okay Martin 😊
@inflatable2
@inflatable2 2 месяца назад
I think it started in Spain a week earlier when Lando pushed Max off into the grass at the start.. But I do not think any of these drivers have friends on track anyway when push comes to shove and they are racing for a championship.. Especially with Max, he's not there to make friends and/or to become popular, he's only there to win.. He's always said that and is as ruthless as needed to try and achieve that.. That's how you assert your dominance in this sport.. Senna, Schumacher, Alonso, Vettel, Hamilton, they've all done it.. We'll see how Lando handles the pressure in Silverstone and rest of the season.. It will be a big test, especially if it requires some close racing with Max again..
@Crosby69
@Crosby69 3 месяца назад
Lando’s engineer told him to slow down and not destroy the car, he said he dont care and destroyes the car. Probably needs to grow up.
@calebb7672
@calebb7672 3 месяца назад
Listen to the radio. No one said that.
@MartinRiggs1820
@MartinRiggs1820 3 месяца назад
@@calebb7672 I did and Lando is clearly unhinged.
@vitreo1363
@vitreo1363 3 месяца назад
Max apparently has a pass from the FIA to stay a 12 year old X-Box lobby gamer…
@alexander_strachan
@alexander_strachan 3 месяца назад
Could Max just have been trying to leave the racing line (as is basic practice after getting a puncture)? He might also have been looking in his other mirror for fast cars which, again, is perfectly sensible. If not, there are no excuses and I'd be disappointed with him - but it's worth bearing in mind. Also: why didn't Lando go the other way round Max? He saw him deviating to the inside, and had enough time to react.
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