@@milesprowerpl97 Yes, a lot of developers and publishers are too lazy to change system requirements. Some new indie titles still mention Windows XP under their system requirements. Maybe they aren't aware Steam dropped support for XP and Vista after the end of 2018. Oddly, Steam Client's download page no longer lists the supported operating systems.
@@kennysboat4432 I always wondered what happened to that. I don't have a game in my Steam Library that requires being run in an older OS. If you do, what option does Valve give you to play them? Do you just have to crack it? Could you link me to a game that requires XP? I'm curious to take a look in the forums. Thank you :)
@@JoNarDLoLz do you have a good FPS config? my game freezes every 30 seconds. wait... forget it. it's not playable because of amount of aimbots anyway. in my last game there were 7 bots.
We got a summer cosmetic case, some medals and some bug fixes, and although a small update, I guess it's saying "hey, we're still here" so maybe we will get a proper update ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@armandox4873 thats normal, in an offline bot match not only do you need to fully load the map+event calculations yourself but your cpu has to do all the bot calculations, while in a server handles them separately so there is less stress on your machine. only thing about online is that you need to calculate the positioning/actions of enemies but thats more a translation where the other person's computer/the server does the main work.
Reminds me of the 200+ hours I sunk into Payday 2 at 10-20fps, before I actually had any proper understanding of computers. :P I eventually managed to butcher the visuals via the ini config, and to be sure the game looked horrible, but I was getting a constant 30-45 fps on a Pentium G640 with Intel HD 2000 graphics, so hey. I sunk another 200 hours into the game like that before I stopped playing.
I'm on your friends list on steam and when I saw you launching and playing TF2, one of my favourite games of all time, I figured you would be making a video about it. I didn't expect you to upload it so quickly though. Love the vids and I've been watching since the beginning
I love how it ran just fine around 4 years ago and now it somehow became even laggier despite literally no updates, Except medals and localization files
Dude idk if im tripping but back in 2014-2015 my pc ran tf2 without configs and all max at a comfortable 100fps constantly with like 200fps at all times with a fps config, nowadays i get 30-60fps almost at all times with mastercoms low config and dx level 8
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In 2014, I was able to play TF2 in a APU E1-1200 in 720p 45-60fps. After the Meet your match update, my notebook wasn't able to run well tf2 ever again.
in 2014 I played TF2 at ~30fps on a system with a Pentium N3530 and a system with a Pentium P6200. The P6200 got single digit framerates even at the lowest settings, the N3530 got around 30fps but was likely power and thermal throttling (thanks to the IHS sized heatsink on the N3530 with a indirect case fan)
Played this when it was released on "the Orange Box" waaay back when on an ATi Radeon X1950 Pro paired with a 2.8 Ghz non-Hyperthreaded P4 + 1GB DDR400. Ran decent at 1280x1024. I feel like the updates to the source engine have really taken their toll as it would be a slide show now. But back then the recommended specs were acceptable. I remember the performance of the Radeon 9000/X1000 series being vastly superior in Source engined games to the nVidia 5000/6000/7000 series that was available, most likely due to drivers
@@clown8444 go to advanced settings I think it's the 3rd option to switch weapons faster For fov in the console type fov_desired 90 For min models start typing tf_use And one of the options would be the minmode one Set it from 0 to 1
RGiHD: Installs windows on Pentium 4 Pentium: W.w....what are you doing? RGiHD: Starts TF2 Pentium: Dude... seriously, stop playing around, what do you want? I'll do anything. Please!
If you do make a video on how to optimize this game, I very strongly recommend using mastercomfig. I've been using it for years and it greatly improves my fps, eliminates almost all stuttering, and even improves tf2's network settings. It's a must-have for this type of video. Just make sure you read the mastercomfig docs to look at how to set custom launch options and stuff. Also, from a gameplay standpoint, I would suggest going into "Advanced Options" and tweaking some settings in there. This won't improve FPS, but there are a ton of quality of life improvements in there that aren't enabled by default (for some reason). Some of these include Fast Weapon Switch, a lot of the class specific options, Minimize Viewmodels, Viewmodel FOV, FOV, Medic Auto-Call, etc. Also, if you ever find that you're running into a lot of hackers in Casual, I would recommend playing on creators.tf servers. They have no hackers and there are a ton of balance chances, custom/reqorked weapons, custom cosmetics, and even a full-blown Contract system.
Just FYI, TF2 has a built-in benchmark function. You can either record your own gameplay to benchmark, or use an already created demo file. docs.mastercomfig.com/en/latest/benchmarks/ Also, FPS configs help massively on low end hardware. I suggest trying mastercomfig low preset with the low memory addon.
I love how while other channels are comparing 10c/12c/16c/ CPUs, when you get to RGIHD the comparison is between 1c/2c/4c CPUs, something more realistic for gamers 😁
For modern games it's not really much of a comparison. A P4 won't run anything modern, neither will a Pentium D. Core 2 Duo vs Core 2 Quad is a bit more interesting, but the conclusion will be that the Quad can run a lot of games the Duo can't and both can't run some modern games due to missing instruction sets.
This gave me nostalgia, never forgetting the days of opening the pentium laptop my father gave me in the night and playing this game with this kind of settings
Yet on 1080p max settings with R5 1600x, RX 570 and 16GB RAM It sometimes go lower than 60 FPS but other times It goes over 300 fps Man the optimization
Tf2s optimization has been fucked ever since meet your match dropped where i thought it couldn't get worse but then they dropped jungle inferno and they managed to make the game run worse than most newer titles on some pcs, i can literally run doom eternal at a comfortable 150fps at all times but tf2 i can barely get 70 fps with configs
Are you running it on a 32 bit OS? just thinking that the CPU released when XP was the OS of choice - be interesting to see if it runs the game better with either 32 bit Windows 7 or XP.
@@BillyBoy444 You are not wrong, on ultra low end PC's the 32 bits windows perform better, and yes probably would be better see how it does on Windows XP, also it would be interesting a comparison between the first version and the lastest, because on a low end pc (Intel Celeron 847 and 2 gigabytes of RAM) I downloaded a really old version of Cs Go and it runs like 25-40 fps with 9 bots, it's somehow playable but the lastest version is 100% unplayable.
@@luislourz Except, Steam no longer runs on Windows XP. You might be able to download it via SteamCMD, however, because of no Steam support, I cannot guarantee the game will properly run on Windows XP if at all.
Though not a direct comparison because of different build but using a lightweight Linux distro might also do the job, Lubuntu I use is even lighter than Xp and Vista so you need to weight it down a bit to compare them.
want to play this today the modern way but lack the gpu ? grab yourself something like gtx 770 for less than 50€ crank up the highest settings at 4k done.
I love TF2 so much! I've been playing TF2 since 2012 and my PC sucked balls. So, I made a new PC literally yesterday with a GTX 1650 super, which is an overkill for TF2 but I wanted a good GPU so I don't have any issues later in the future. I get 180-210 fps on 1080p max settings.
I have a pair of Pentium 4 640 & FX 5900 Ultra as my retro XP game machine! That's actually nice to see these two 'disappointments' work together quite decently.
also i saw you calling people poor, and acting like a spoiled little bich, youre probabily poor and you are so insecure about yourself that you have to attack random people
Your recommendation of at least 2 cores is right, most chromebooks running crouton can run this game at 30+ fps on all low with mastercomfig (low present), and a flat texturepack. Although most 2GB models will struggle with even hitting 15, but anything better than 2GB will be fine.
I was looking at the minimum specs for fun because I was looking for games to potentially install and play on my 2U server because my main pc doesn't have a lot of hard drive space left. When I saw how low the minimum requirements were I had to look up if someone had tried to play the game with those specs. But, since it is a server, it doesn't have any audio ports. So, not only would I have to get a cheap GPU, I would need to install a sound card too. It would probably be cheaper to just buy a new hard drive, but it would be kinda cool to have a server that can run lighter games.
low the graphics a bit. Also i assume you are using Crimson driver (16.2.x) or Catalyst 15.7.1. Which of them you are using? Dota 2 for example (which also use Source engine) runs better with Crimson.
If I recall correctly, as stated on one of the dev teams on the Developer Commentary they put the particles on-load onto the CPU rather than on the GPU to decrease GPU load (since as they stated that the CPU's on that day was powerful enough to do it.) Tho, correct me if I'm wrong. Also that TF2 runs at DX9 (9.5) which caps at 2 cores and 4 threads max and relies A LOT on Single Core Performance, it's even worse on how bloated the game is with 1000+ hats, with tons of unusual effects. There are mods tho that disables hats/unusual hats to improve performance. CSGO is one of them also, since how bloated that game is, I remembered hitting 400fps around 2013/2014 era of CSGO, but now I can only hit 150/230fps which is a big reduction. This could be just a engine limitation on how much it can handle. That's why many, I mean many (including B4nny, a professional TF2 player with a beastly rig) still plays on a low cfg file since without the graphics cfg, it gives him huge fps drops. A tip if you really want TF2 to run smoothly, there are configs out there that disables some graphical effects that reduces load onto the CPU (Shadows, View Distance reduction) without destroying the look of the game. You can also try overclocking your CPU (most likely your 1st core) or you can try running TF2 at DX8 (which not only decreases GPU load but also decreases CPU load, probably disables many graphics settings that puts more load onto the CPU.) If your TF2 runs smoothly without any of these configs then your PC is one of the rare species that it can do it. Many mid range to high end systems STRUGGLES to hit 60fps without any config edit.
@@Loundsify Time flies huh? Used to have a GTX 480, 4GB DDR2 and a Q6600 on a Windows XP machine and ran TF2 like butter. Now with a RTX 2080ti and Ryzen 3600 and it runs like crap without any configs lmao. I really wished VALVe's TF2 Team department have some sort of optimization team.
@@moxie3337 it's more that they just keep updating the game. Before they added hats and other stuff the game was pretty solid even on older graphics cards. It's the same with CSGO that game used to run at about 200fps on my 7870XT and then by 2017 it was running about 80fps with drops into the 20s.
Pentium 4 was already at release a crap of a CPU, Athlon 64 AMDs were much cheaper and overclocked better, resulting in the same or better performance, for even less power consumption
I got an AMD 3600X and a GTX 2070 Super, 16 GB RAM. I play on the highest possible settings (community "cinematic" config), 1080p, and with Ambient Occlusion enabled in the Nvidia Control Panel. I get over 100fps most of the time, but on particularly unoptimized maps such as Suijin or Lazarus it can go down to 70 fps. There's also areas in optimized maps where I can get up to 300 fps (my maximum as set in the game) so it really is all over the place and a lot depends on the map itself. Some things to consider: It has been demonstrated time and again that TF2 relies heavily on CPU clockspeed, and mine is sitting at 4.2 Ghz as of now. TF2 doesn't make good use of multicore processing. The benefit pretty much caps out at two cores. I see no noteworthy difference in performance with anything between two and 12 threads dedicated to TF2. Cinematic config, high settings, medium settings, low settings... doesn't matter what I pick, it has an utterly negligible effect on my framerate and the CPU clearly is the bottleneck. It even seems some of the low settings are designed to offload to the CPU so modern PCs probably should use high settings to get more fps, crazy as that seems. There's some particular settings, some of which only accessible through the console that really help save your fps as they are probably CPU bound: Disable dynamic player shadows, disable the 3D character HUD, and disable the colored team outlines and objective outlines that glow through walls. Those things really hog your fps. Disabling audio enhancements also gives a slight boost to your fps. That means sound will be purely directional and merely louder or quiter depending on distance. No effects like echo or reverb. Disabling ragdolls, ragdoll physics, and gibs also gives a fair boost, but it means players will just fade out on death. There's also the "nohat" mod that you can try which is one of the few mods that work even on "sv_pure" servers. This will disable all cosmetics, so there's less stuff to render.
Back in the day I used to play this and L4D2 very nicely on my old Pentium D 820 family computer that I chucked a 1 gb GT220 and some more ram in. It was cheap and dirty but it got the job done.
I remember playing this game when it was considered demanding for some PC's and people would install custom ultra-low settings configs that made it look like an N64 game.
The very first day I got my computer back in Christmas of 2016 this was the first game I played, I played the crap out of it but don't play it as much anymore because my now three year old PC which was never entirely meant for gaming didn't respond to well to the updates, I'm building a new computer so i'll play a lot more when I build the new computer.
Nice video! I ran this game a few years ago with a Pentium 4 system and 7100 GS. But now, oh man it's different. This year it was worse i think I didn't had my fps on but i felt it. Even though i used config and dx8. Man this gpu is really weak.
So I play Team Fortress 2 with a Lenovo 320 laptop, which utilizes 8GB RAM and an AMD A12-9720P processor with integrated Radeon R7 graphics. The laptop costed about $330 and isn't powerful enough to efficiently run demanding games like Planet Coaster or Just Cause 4, but it can run Team Fortress 2 in 1024x768 resolution with 60fps or higher (all graphics set to lowest)
While these requirements need an update right now (or, honestly, an update every 2 or so years since release), they were quite generous back then - I had single core Athlon XP 2800+, 512MB DDR1 RAM and Radeon 9550, ie barely higher than minimum requirements. That didn't stop it from achieving 50+ fps @ 1024x768 prior to Sniper vs. Spy update in 2009, with even better results on DX8!
my fave hardware youtuber playing my fave game? HELL YEA! also i get 200fps at the best of times at highest settings but this game will still drag you down to a crawl at times.
I have nothing to add, I just want to say its so rare to see people talk about this game now a days outside of a specific circle that seeing one of my favorite ytbers talk about it even in a bad light like this makes me feel all giddy inside.
What you will find is that when this came out, it would have most probably been run on Windows XP (virtually no-one used Vista most people opting to uninstall it and run XP in its place) so if you are using windows 7 (bearing in mind windows 7 wasn't released until 2009) that will tank your performance because the CPU will not be able to keep up with that, 1GB of RAM was adequate for most things on a Windows XP PC I recall running around 2GB until 2005-ish when XP-64 came out to support the full 4GB+ needless to say I reckon performance would improve with the age appropriate operating system.
I remember back when this first came out running it with no problem on my Athlon xp 3000+, 1gb ram, and I'm not entirely sure if I still had my 9800pro or if I had upgraded to the 7800gs at that point (I'm fairly certain I had upgraded a couple months prior to tf2 release) Seems like a lot of source games over the years have drifted from their original minimum requirements with the various updates
