Had an art teacher in high school she told me " art is not the finished product its the process that person took to achieve the final product." That has stuck with me all my life i hope someone else find it just as helpful and inspiring 😊
@@floridflesh But making money is the ONLY part that is affected by AI. For anyone doing art for "greater goals" makes ZERO difference how much AI there is around!
@ReblazeGaming it's a game guide for a video game that doesn't exist. Think like old school Prima guides with enemy stats, secret weapons, level descriptions. All with a dark, hopeless, desolate feeling.
I think what makes these paintings or this type of art very comforting is that the characters appear to be so free they are doing whatever they want. They’re not tied to anything like our modern life as they’re just running around in beautiful castles and amazing nature. we all wish we could be free sometimes.
i like the kinda point of view that reminds us that the older artists that get talked about so much are just regular human real world artists too, just like artists nowadays except.. back then. like putting it into a realistic perspective of theyre not gods, they arent the end all be all of artistry, nowhere near. they were talented artists of their time and thats not to be overlooked but the point is they were good at art, they understood it and spent much time becoming good at it and understanding it, just like anyone else can and even more freely today. it all seems like obvious stuff, but i do think its ignored sometimes or just not thought about as much as it should. i think a nice example of it is the pointing out that "if you think that the old masters wouldnt have used digital youre crazy. they used every tool they could that made the job easier." bringing things down to earth makes things so much nicer, almost comfier - for lack of a better word. such a nice thing to do to put things in perspective, especially when talking about times that have passed
Yeah thinking things deep really put things into perspective, it can get you a long way mentally and that changes how you act out when creating or anything really, JakeDontDraw is one of the most profound art content creators out there. Hopefully more artists gets inspired to learn about history, observing and utilizing different creative processes from many artists so that they fully express and fulfill their creative journey
Omg finally some appreciation for Serdar Yildiz's work on the bannerlord loading screens. such an underrated collection of pieces. I practically leapt up when I heard you mention them.
Dark fantasy (especially the images of knights at rest, hopeless, etc) I feel like really encapsulates what a lot of younger people may be feeling. I don't see myself as young anymore, (late 20s), but I see myself in those knights. It's a dark, strange and fantastical world out there. It can be really scary and sometimes you want nothing more than just to rest. Great video. I really enjoyed it.
23:40, argument against AI is not so much about it being bad and unlikable, it is just stolen art and ips, its a mashup of things, if you are seeing anything nice AI generated, its been taken from someone without them knowing. Some are more obvious than others. Using AI generated slope is immoral, you want be neutral for or against it is a different thing, but it being wrong is a fact.
I never really thought about the series of processes for art. I draw all of the time and have been for years, but I always got discouraged that I felt my artwork was never up to par. I see now it's that I was akways speed drawing or painting and not actually taking time to tumbnail, gather references, do studies... All of that will help.
You really explained what’s going on in my head during painting. I have the issue of subconscious doing each step correctly (or at least what works for me) but I always manage to forget or misremember what I should be doing by the next painting. I’ve been having trouble getting back into painting and even drawing everyday because of this, but I think I have so often been over complicating things. Thanks, can’t wait for the next parts.
Most of all the “Dark fantasy” art style is just Michael Whelan art style, I’ve seen some Ai art that is just the same as his work but with a slightly different lol
I must show you appreciation for showing us the ''Le Chevalier Aux Fleurs''. I love looking at art but I've never been left speechless and in utter awe by a singular painting before. It gave me quite a visceral reaction, i simply love it. thank you
Paintings of Knights in full plate armor in a gloomy chivalristic romantic atmosphere as they think about all the battles, titles while resting at a tree or open plains will never fail to catch my attention. It just resonates with me and I love it so much.
The problem with Ai is its creation, as it ripped off and stolen from tons and tons of artists without compensation and profits off their work to train tools, this is also causing photographers and other artists to completely remove their work from everywhere, fearing that someone will train an AI on their work and profit on top of their pieces and art its sad we cant even get directed to the artists they stole from to see where the images they generated come from, as that would make them liable to so much copyright lawsuits, they are a really shady and extremelly malitious business
@@JostDraws I don't understand this. People steal too by taking inspirations. What you basically do when you train an AI is you just make the AI look at a painting and study like a real human could do by just looking at a painting or a drawing. This is no different. Process might be faster because AI isn't as nuanced as human brain. In the end I think this is a stupid argument. Jake here literally did similar things as AI by having inspriations and looking at other art and even taking colours from other paintings. Like I said this is what really humans do. Yes, humans cannot mass produce similar stuff and it takes more time train as humans but this is literally same. As a final, let me ask this: Should Jake be componsating all the artists he "stole" from? Do you really think it make sense to componsate every individual for their work if used to train an AI? How would even logistics of it work? Since, humans also train themselves with other paintings should also humans componsate artist for looking at paintings of an artist?
@@somethingsomeone9678 It is EXTREMELLY different, do you learn by taking a imaginary picture of everything you have seen and merging it toguether? Or by visualizing the elements, breaking down the forms, and trying to understand how it works? Obviously you dont merge thousends of pictures from other people on your brain to create new ones, you come up with it by your own experiences, taste, etc. Also you should study on really how those image generation softweres were even made since you seem to have absolutely no clue. Ill say this but it is literally the biggest art theft in history, because the way they work is by USING art from everyone, then pretending noones specific art is in it so they dont have to pay copyrights, AI art is literally thousends of images converted to noise then back onto a picture, funny thing is, it would NOT exist without artists, photographers, etc. So PLEASE study what you are talking about before coming to such takes
@@JostDraws Your first half of the take is reasonable. I'd say AI is not making art like humans do but it literally imagines it and we see what it imagines. Second half of the take however, is really stupid. I've been watching computerphiles video on it, It is not what you say it is. I also can say that you also watched the video but didn't even finish it and took the beginning of explanation and how it started as the reality and you just accepted as such quickly and probably closed the video because it made your opinions valid. In the beginning of the video computerphile talks about training neural networks to denoise images. However, there is more to it and you took a part of it as the whole thing and even that is insane because if thats the whole thing, how can AI even generate images? It can't, and the fact that you probably took it as the whole explanation is crazy. Now, honestly I gotta do a rewatch and probably look other videos and also read some stuff about it to fully understand but from what I am getting every image they train these AI models are also fed with prompts and they are interpreted by language model (like ChatGPT) and this is becomes a part of it input. So, the neural network with maybe thousands of images learns what it is looking at and starting be able replicate that, thanks to denoising and it can literally get an image of a noise and a prompt and dream that thing in different situations and in different poses and also it can diffuse it with other ideas of things; which is that, not images itselves, it uses ideas and information of those images instead of those images itselves to create a rabbit frog as it does in video. There are certain things I don't understand in video like; he talks about also having neural network denoise images without prompt and also compare it to a to an image that was denoised with a prompt and amplify difference and feed it with prompt and noised image to train and I have no idea why that is a necessety, it appearently helps with making more clear images but I don't know. Like, I can be a dumb idiot and overthink things and miss small things but I don't think this is case now and because of that it is really low of you to tell me to have a knowledge about the subject I am making statements about when you are the one that don't know anything about it. before watching this video I knew it used neural networks and I knew it used prompts to tell what this is to train neural networks but I just wanted to be sure. Maybe you gotta make sure you know what you are talking about. Also, the last thing you said about AI wouldn't be able to do what it does without artists and photographers is a fact, yes but I don't think it contributes argument to AI being the "biggest art theft". It just learns like humans do, maybe it doesn't specifically learn how to do art like humans do but it learns what looks like what and with a prompt it imagines what it looks like and we see it imagines.
I think AI art is a misnomer because it’s really an amalgamation of millions of pieces of real art blended and spat out. Currently, AI does very little creation and does a lot of copying, sorting, mixing.
If you really look at it, human art and AI art is more similar than not. Human art always comes from inspiration from other images and art, copying bits of style and composition from other pieces. Try to train an artist without showing him art.
@@DemsW AI art misses the soul of human art. It doesn’t feel like it has feeling in my opinion. I don’t think AI art could ever compare to real, human art with meaning and thought put into it. Personally, I feel as though even a child’s drawing with crayons and stick figures has more beauty and meaning than a soulless machine generated copy of real works.
this channel has been a really big inspiration to me and has helped me put art in a different perspective, I love how insightful you are while still allowing yourself to be silly and goof. actual art goals
Jake, I love you! And the reason for it is because the extream amount of information you put into those videos! Your observational skill are incredible! The way you explain and elaborate on subjects and topics is deep and informative! Thank you for your input into the vast informative wave of the internet! Thank you for being here and teaching thouse things!
What you're looking at is mashed of real human artist work of art. What you are amazed by is a glimpse into the work of a master. AI just randomly put shit together to resemble whatever the fuck prompt the user add.
Couple things.. it needs to be more muted values. The rocks around the the subjects should be almost all black and dark grey. Honestly i think you should do a grayscale study with just black and white paint to really nail the values. I think that's what really sets dark fantasy apart from realism. Also it makes very little sense that he'd have a helmet but no armor. You don't block your vision if you're not even gonna protect your upper body. Just ditch the helmet and put the sword with tip buried in the ground and his hand on the pommel maybe even pinning the robe to the ground. Also i would try and make the robe either silky or very barely translucent so you can get a little bit more form in the shadows of the folds
The problem with Ai is its creation, as it ripped off and stolen from tons and tons of artists without compensation and profits off their work to train tools, this is also causing photographers and other artists to completely remove their work from everywhere, fearing that someone will train an AI on their work and profit on top of their pieces and art its sad we cant even get directed to the artists they stole from to see where the images they generated come from, as that would make them liable to so much copyright lawsuits, they are a really shady and extremelly malitious business
i love how you educate so much it makes me appreciate art more as you explain what’s nice about curtain artwork i also have a video idea, maybe. maybe try and recreate a piece you made 1 or 2 years ago? i would love to see you go into depth and how you’ve learned and looking back on your past mistakes
You said you started back in 2019 which is CRAZY because I started back in 2020, but you seem lightyears ahead of me LOL I'd love to hear how you got to the point you're at now. What'd you study, how you studied, how often you practiced, etc etc
Bro, you gave me so much hope. I always enjoyed drawing, but I didn't have enough motivation to keep on practicing. Now I'm 20 and I recently thought that it's to late for me to learn anything. If you started at 20 and got so good, than I can do so, aswell.
youre only 20 youre just out of your teen years give urself a break and do what u wanna do, if u wanna draw then draw, this comment makes you sound like a gen x’er
@@elliecochrane2288 I know but I have friends that finnished art highschool, that are drawing since they were kids and I feel like I wasted all this time and I'll never be as good
Definitely my new favorite RU-vidr I remember finding your channel and being pumped bc I was in desperate need of new art RU-vidrs. I watched a couple of your videos and then was stunned that you only had like 3k subscribers and like 5 videos. Watching your account grow was crazy! Good for you man for getting the recognition you deserve
I really wish people were more educated on how ai art programs work. The art only looks good because its stolen from real human arists. "Ai art" is a glorified photoshop. It takes several images and Frankensteins them together, then adds a smoothing over it to cover the seams. Ai is only as smart or skilled as the humans it replicates.
Kinda reminds me of Doja Cats cover art for paint the town red with the dark fantasy almost style and obviously the red cloak lol. I love this a lot it’s really great!
Me finally getting to use my art degree: The Old Masters absolutely used the tech available to them to save time or ‘cheat’. They used a pinhole projector the size of a room called a camera obscura so they could trace images directly. During the Mannerism period, they would purposefully elongate proportions and twist poses past where you can naturally pose to make it look more ‘graceful’. So it could be that the AI is pulling from that on the lady with the bloody fingers image.
Love how you take lil moments to describe the process and how “the masters” would absolutely use digital and other tools. I grew up loving art and drawing but it wasn’t till Highschool when I started using Photoshop in a class, and getting lost in the process. Cause it is hard, the teacher had us make a piece after she gave us a step by step tutorial and you get lost in the simplicity, until you truly start making your project with your own ideas and tools (that you can remember to use), and that’s when the art process will start to challenge you. Great video and work 🫶🏼
I'm a current art student and have always had a lot of anxiety surrounding my art making process. Don't get me wrong I love painting and the feeling of being in the zone but I just cannot help but compare myself to others and wish I was perfect all the time. Yet watching this video and hearing your words on the sketching process of old masters and knowing that I'm not alone in these feelings but also knowing it just takes time and practice even for others really helps me ❤ Thank you so much
I have been thinking about that red color for the last four minutes of the video, and at some point the color itself looks beautiful and brings that sence of dark fantasy and even nostalgia, but it also kinda draws too much attention, and i cant look at this painting without always getting my eye on that red cloth, so it distracts me from the central figure - the knight. I dont know what you should do about this color, because if you change it, it may not bring that sence anymore, but if you keep it like that, it is too different from the other colors in saturation, and if you change the surrounding colors, it may take out the style of dark fantasy. Im not criticizing or even suggesting anything, just writing, what i see, and what i was paying the most attention on this sketch.
I'm less inclined to like this trend because a single ai image from a program like midjourny uses comparable energy to charging a modern smart phone. Additionally, one of my fav frog species are now classed as officially extinct so I am very bitter rn.
the only problem I have with ai art is the ability to use it to do harm, and no I'm not referring to the argument about ai art theft or the like, but the fact that ai coming so far could lead to fraudulent photos of people or things, could you imagine if somebody got convicted of a crime they didn't commit because someone used ai to create some kind of false photo evidence!???? this stuff is lowkey scary
Hey Jake, you would probably get a lot from Daz 3D. You can pose realistic humans like little dolls for a good reference in the exact pose you want. I found it really useful for doing multiple figures especially.
jake can you please do a video about digital art portraits and go a little more in depth on how to sculpt the face plains and focus on shapes rather than details? i love your shorts you have on this topic and i find them really helpful
This is incredible I completely agree with so much of this. Also NOOOO I fell in love with the bottom left photoshop drawing, not the cherry red but the purple sky and the colours were lovely. But can’t wait to see what you end up doing
AI completely destroyed the amazing feeling of liking a certain genre of art then finding artists who make them and fall in love with their style. Good luck trying to describe a type of art and finding any human created art that someone made with their skill passion and love.
I'm an artist too, but a musician - producer for over 15 years. And i personally don't see a problem with AI. Quite the opposite: i use it A LOT to create music. Now i DO NOT create full songs (obviously), but AI is really, really good at creating samples, "sound-alikes" (creating things that sound as close as possible to another thing is litterally a branch in the music industry - think of that what you want....) and just... starting points. Before AI we, or at least most musicians i know, did the same thing with so called "happy-accident-generators" which was mostly: literally randomizing a lot of things. That too resulted in weird sounds, starting points and whatever else. It's kind of a "throwing sh*t agaisnt the wall and seeing what sticks". And those we craft (by hand) into fully fledged songs. AI does basically the same thing as randomizing stuff, but in a different way and is better at different things. That vastly extended our possibilities. Art has always been using things and crafting them into others - in a very abstract way sometimes. Woodcarving isn't invalidated just because the person carving it didn't grow the wood himself. Doesn't matter where it comes from, really. Completely irrelevant.
i think a lot of people here are confusing photo bashing with drawing in regards to ai. like ai essentially takes from the images it was feed the parts it want's and then bashes em together and tries to connect it. (that is why often hair or clothing will connect to diffrent backround elements.) a good recent example of ai art where you can clearly see it is with the pokemon tcg event where a person made multible accounts and spammed ai images. as an example there was a vaporion that was essentially directly put in from the og source. an artists can make things from things they know how to draw without needing to cut out and edit pieces of someone elses art
Good work, but I'm just a little lost on the red-robed figure. From the prelim sketches I thought it a standing figure with the cloth billowing around the knight, but then it's much too short for the raised ground level. By the later studies, for the cloak to drape the rocky ledge so significantly (& hug the contouring at that), the figures have to be seated back to back, but that would make the back figure's torso much too tall even before we consider the perspective distortions. It might be helpful to draw a quick side view of how these two figures are engaging depth-wise / on the same picture plane for some spatial clarity before returning to this frontal view.
