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I Tried Out The NEWLY Reworked Roadhog In Overwatch 2 

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@Adelemphii
@Adelemphii 7 месяцев назад
The people who say you can't 1-shot anymore are wrong, you still can. It's just far more difficult to do with just hook + shot. I find it's easier to 1-shot a reaper than a cass, due to how reaper's head hitbox isn't shrouded by shoulders. You basically need to land most if not all of your pellets to headshot.
@turtle7288
@turtle7288 7 месяцев назад
I just place my trap in front of me then hook them into it, works for the most part
@skarloeythomas5172
@skarloeythomas5172 7 месяцев назад
But this isn’t true either, not from my hours testing in the workshop. Reaper and Mei are easier to shoot down, but you can’t get the 250 HP one tap when hooked within 4m, unless it’s a 1m hook. Crits multiplier nerf is responsible. One shots on Solider, Ana, and Baptiste from long hooks have become impossible to me, whilst McCree and Symmetra have become more frequent.
@connordavis5847
@connordavis5847 7 месяцев назад
​@turtle7288 The trap one shot is significantly easier. I dont play hog (
@Chr0n0s38
@Chr0n0s38 7 месяцев назад
​@@connordavis5847And honestly it's as much a problem as old one shot. It's not like Hog uses hook off CD all the time.
@Wombat.Combat.
@Wombat.Combat. 7 месяцев назад
Felt easier to one shot now then it did before for me
@psycoskunk9145
@psycoskunk9145 7 месяцев назад
For those who’re curious, characters like Junkrat and Lifeweaver are still vulnerable to the One-Shot hook combo due to their larger hitboxes (or in Junkrat’s case, his head hitbox), so it’s still possible. Ironically, the trap makes it so you can Two-Shot people instead just by yoinking them into the trap, popping them up and just shooting them in the air. Sooooo.... Roadhog hasn’t really changed all that much, to be honest. He can sustain himself a bit better, but his counters still counter him.
@skarloeythomas5172
@skarloeythomas5172 7 месяцев назад
There’s nothing ironical about that. It’s still a one shot, dragging an enemy over the trap and a single blast from the gun kills them. No one should hook onto the trap and wait for the knock up to then shoot.
@psycoskunk9145
@psycoskunk9145 7 месяцев назад
@@skarloeythomas5172 Unless you wanna be cool, like me.... 😯
@juveintheusa6261
@juveintheusa6261 7 месяцев назад
Tbf his counters aren’t as strong bc his healing can’t just be all out countered and stopped like before, it just comes back after 1 second if it’s cancelled. And he has some CC of his own to fight back against some of them.
@stevebob2941
@stevebob2941 7 месяцев назад
No they arent. this is the same cope people had back when they nerfed him last time you cant one shot anymore not reliably
@temmlygaming5509
@temmlygaming5509 7 месяцев назад
​@@stevebob2941if you pull someone into the trap and then do the combo you can get 1 shot combos off on people
@rocketpajamas6969
@rocketpajamas6969 7 месяцев назад
My big thing is that Pigpen feels like a nothing ability sometimes The only time that it feels impactful is if I’m hooking someone directly into it, feel like it should have a bigger activation radius so that you can use it more to potentially give your backline some extra protection Breather feels like the most impactful change to Hog of this entire update
@FlamingFox911
@FlamingFox911 7 месяцев назад
Just wait till they slap the hindered status effect onto that trap.
@darkcat6530
@darkcat6530 7 месяцев назад
I think thats the point of the trap to hook people into it to one shot them
@timbombadil4046
@timbombadil4046 7 месяцев назад
Let it be activated manually too. Then it has denial utility as well.
@atsukana1704
@atsukana1704 7 месяцев назад
Ya it looks like it should make him less annoying to deal with for certain characters and better for the hog player overall especially with skill expression. Pigpen does nothing though lol
@atsukana1704
@atsukana1704 7 месяцев назад
@@darkcat6530ya except with good supports that won’t happen most of the time. I don’t think flats got a one shot the entire game (they were always already weakened or he had a damage buff)
@-Nightingale
@-Nightingale 7 месяцев назад
As a Reaper player, he feels the exact same.
@iambutahumblerat8443
@iambutahumblerat8443 7 месяцев назад
bro same the foodchain is maintained
@orangescore5148
@orangescore5148 7 месяцев назад
@@iambutahumblerat8443as it should be
@rickytheraccoon6102
@rickytheraccoon6102 7 месяцев назад
One tip I would say is there are a lot of times I'm seeing where you kinda forget to move trap or use it at all, I was finding that generally you want to grt into the habit of just trying to throw it whenever you get a hook, it really is just a throw it if you can
@thequietman9820
@thequietman9820 7 месяцев назад
Yup! I've seen some RU-vidrs not get that idea or kinda forget to use it whenever because it goes on cool down while the other trap is down
@MattNotFat
@MattNotFat 7 месяцев назад
I really like the combination of primary and secondary fire. Pigpen is a nice addition too. There's actually a lot of ways to use it if you get creative. The self healing working like bastion's self repair is nice, but it feels like it doesn't do enough to keep him up if a fight when compared to other tanks. It also doesn't help that it takes 12 seconds to fully recharge, but I found that taking shorter puffs helps with that.
@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty
@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty 7 месяцев назад
I feel weird about Hog having a trap, but fingers crossed it isn't too crazy.
@battlericky17
@battlericky17 7 месяцев назад
Definitely feels like im suffering from the exact same shit that only picking another hero will fix. Lol
@Fitzness1
@Fitzness1 7 месяцев назад
Yeah it’s not he’s still shit
@Spectral901
@Spectral901 7 месяцев назад
This is going to be an interesting rework to try out
@JayRM_
@JayRM_ 7 месяцев назад
I've been treating it like a junk trap (or how I use junk traps) + setting up pulls. It's been working very well for me. I also tend to drop it on myself when I'm getting pushed to hold an advantage.
@humphrey261
@humphrey261 7 месяцев назад
the rework shouldve been they bring back the oneshot, but he has new passive called "heartattack" where you can randomly die anysecond by chance
@mangodxwns
@mangodxwns 7 месяцев назад
LMAO WTF
@antimatter175
@antimatter175 7 месяцев назад
As a vet hog main I will forever miss his alt fire
@iammuffin2030
@iammuffin2030 7 месяцев назад
I feel like I actually like the changes. The one shot is still possible but is far easier if you do it onto the pig pen, which if you put it through a door to your side or something so the enemy can’t destroy it then it gives you a use for the turn 90 degree hook technique, cause you can yank them away onto the pen and even if they’re tanky and you don’t get the one shot they’re separated from their team and slowed in front of you, it seems like it’s meant to put emphasis on thinking through your gameplay a bit more instead of just unga bunga one shot
@stevebob2941
@stevebob2941 7 месяцев назад
LOL the cope hes trash
@nathengriffiths-holland7038
@nathengriffiths-holland7038 7 месяцев назад
I’ve used this strat to deal with mercys my teammates can’t kill or any targets my team mates can’t deal with. I’m a terrible sniper and so are my friends so this is kinda the way we kill mercy phara
@questionable_live
@questionable_live 7 месяцев назад
I think they should have used the right click animation for left click I always liked it better. Also take a breather is actually shit it needs to be like 35% or 40% dmg reduction if the recharge time is gonna be that slow
@SuccubiSage
@SuccubiSage 7 месяцев назад
Honestly, having played against him in a few matches, it feels way more competitive now. Not just getting hooked = death, but can still do a significant amount of damage if played well.
@abnerpinker7849
@abnerpinker7849 7 месяцев назад
I love how all lf the top 100 players who ive seen really struggle with this new hog, their brain just betrays them with muscle memory
@kptlt.phillipthomsen5973
@kptlt.phillipthomsen5973 7 месяцев назад
I'll mostly miss the right click because it sounded cool as hell
@Shiny_J
@Shiny_J 7 месяцев назад
What I love doing with PigPen is laying it, hooking someone into it like you did, then just spray them... So much fun lol
@swallux8941
@swallux8941 7 месяцев назад
The reason the pigpen deals less damage of they're hooked into it is bc when it launches them in the air, they miss about a second of the damage compared to being next to it.
@plow9719
@plow9719 7 месяцев назад
I have gotten used to right clicking b4 I throw my hook out as part of my combo to confirm kills, new hog shotgun just makes it easier and more consistent to get that pre hook poke in.
@Aqualightnin
@Aqualightnin 7 месяцев назад
bind both left AND right click to shoot for hog, then put the heal back on its old e button, then put the trap literally anywhere else that you like. it'll help if you're stuck messing up from old muscle memory.
@TenThousandAnts
@TenThousandAnts 7 месяцев назад
Yet having e be a held ability doesn’t allow for someone to walk right since their index is on e instead of d
@RiderZer0
@RiderZer0 7 месяцев назад
Yesterday was a nightmare for ranked. Every hog was completely ineffective. No one knew how to play the rework, but just decided to jump straight into comp to figure it out.
@averagefan2397
@averagefan2397 7 месяцев назад
he deals so much damage it's insane they just made his damage output more consistent but the one shot combos isn't all gone
@Hunter-ys9ew
@Hunter-ys9ew 7 месяцев назад
Here’s the one shot tech. 1:place the trap down 2:hook them into the trap 3:left click 4:they dead
@peterdelfino7327
@peterdelfino7327 7 месяцев назад
when i use pig pen i use it was more actively and off cooldown the burst damage and aoe is a lot more than you think. i especially try and focus hooking people onto it making it more of an active use ability rather than a trap u sit and wait for people to step on
@sozulonsoz3716
@sozulonsoz3716 7 месяцев назад
5:36 "it feels soo weiiird" while he misses hook, shoots his own cover and then keeps huffing all his heal while naded lol
@giomarrodriguez2810
@giomarrodriguez2810 7 месяцев назад
The cartwheels are my favorite change 😂😂😂
@cmattss4
@cmattss4 7 месяцев назад
Spacing the right click shots was one of my favorite parts of playing hog 😢
@Konyyaan
@Konyyaan 7 месяцев назад
Pulling people into the traps is funny and works sometimes
@A_Weed_Naturally
@A_Weed_Naturally 7 месяцев назад
I enjoy being able to top off without wasting the whole cooldown
@Emma.Lily69
@Emma.Lily69 7 месяцев назад
It seems like poking is worse in that 3 meters right after the old right click used to burst but is far more reliable for shorter and much longer distances now
@questionable_live
@questionable_live 7 месяцев назад
but its better in that weird 3 to 2 meter distance where right click and left click were both not effective
@CaillymBG
@CaillymBG 7 месяцев назад
The tech to one shot is walk back while you hook then walk forward. It brings them closer, hit the head and melee
@user-yz9fq5kh7c
@user-yz9fq5kh7c 3 месяца назад
The ones shots feel so much more rewarding now with the trap
@tonyolsson3880
@tonyolsson3880 7 месяцев назад
What cix found out is you want to pull them past the cc which gets you a lot of dam. Also he found out that you can shoot right after ult if you time the heals, you can time it just right to have no animation.
@kanadaisangel6195
@kanadaisangel6195 7 месяцев назад
I want the animation from hogs left click back
@oxerrt
@oxerrt 7 месяцев назад
i find jumping and moving forward as i hit the hook can make the one shot easier but its def harder to do (whitch is probably a good thing in all honesty)
@Pepsi_Dog_
@Pepsi_Dog_ 7 месяцев назад
I love flat's videos, cause he smart!
@felwinterslie5902
@felwinterslie5902 7 месяцев назад
Yeah dude I heard what you said about the left click at range i main hog and even with the left click being better at range now it just feels wrong im also used to hearing the different noise from the old alt fire
@randomationstudios24x68
@randomationstudios24x68 7 месяцев назад
I think something they can do to give back secondary fire is to let you charge up the primary fire and then let go to shoot it which will do what secondary fire did.
@ROBAKABIGPAPA
@ROBAKABIGPAPA 7 месяцев назад
I thought it was having a stroke when I started hearing multiple voices
@SM-ok3sz
@SM-ok3sz 7 месяцев назад
3:28 Soldier isn’t on the ground, he’s on a platform. That’s why he seems as tall as hog. That also might be why the hook+trap combo wasn’t working as expected.
@pcdeadman1832
@pcdeadman1832 7 месяцев назад
I think his trap is bugged with that boop that sends them out of the range of the trap. Also yes I noticed Hog is shorter now as well, when you have two hogs in the match its really obvious he is shorter now for some reason
@astratheprotogen1802
@astratheprotogen1802 7 месяцев назад
ik it’s not super applicable all the time in game but the hog one shot can still be done when it’s paired with the pig pen
@Steamaroon
@Steamaroon 7 месяцев назад
For the first part with the pigpen and the ai tracer she wasn’t dying sometimes because she was actually landing on top of the centerpiece. I’m guessing the damage is related to the proximity to the wires themselves, not the center. When the tracer landed on the top it shot her up a bit and raised the distance just enough to take a couple less damage and be able to just survive a hook afterwards. Very unlikely that would happen in real game tho and it’s only a difference of like 10 damage so I don’t think it needs changed
@jamesharding7536
@jamesharding7536 7 месяцев назад
No it's just a bug, the trap doesn't do 1-tick of it's damage. She should take 150dmg from the wires. But when she gets the little upwards boop, she doesn't take damage then because the trap is supposed to be electrifying the terrain - she's in the air. I hate the little boop upwards, it's totally meaningless aside from messing up your own and your team's shots.
@GiveMeTheRice
@GiveMeTheRice 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, he said that
@funionsflagons7844
@funionsflagons7844 7 месяцев назад
could you do a click to hold setting and just burn all the heal with E?
@falnere5711
@falnere5711 7 месяцев назад
Me and a friends tested the junkrat trap with roadhog trap and hook is an easy one shot. it is disgusting how funny it is.
@skyjr13
@skyjr13 7 месяцев назад
I swapped take a breather and hook. So my hook is right click now and that has been working a bit better.
@Ardent-_-Jitsu
@Ardent-_-Jitsu 3 месяца назад
I simply changed the key binds back to reflect the heal being E and my left klick throws out the zappy thingydoodle. I absolutely could not migrate to pressing left klick to heal, not after years of hitting E under stress...haha!
@spicymeatballs2thespicening
@spicymeatballs2thespicening 7 месяцев назад
1:23 lmao why have I never heard that "DIE." hog voice line
@drkatz1192
@drkatz1192 7 месяцев назад
Once you get used to using Right click to Heal, and don’t accidentally click E (I was doing the same thing). Hooking people into pig pens feels great too. Once you adjust, I promise you this new Hog feels great! Way more flexible, and strong!
@S1erra107
@S1erra107 7 месяцев назад
I have a mouse with side buttons, so I can remap breather to that without struggling to move, and it very much helps
@Its_me_Stolas
@Its_me_Stolas 7 месяцев назад
Bro went from shrapnel to slugs, of course it feels wierd to left click from such range
@marcusbullock2753
@marcusbullock2753 7 месяцев назад
Still need time to think about fidget spinner hog attacks.
@deadmentellnotails114
@deadmentellnotails114 7 месяцев назад
Blizzard logic instead of rockstar logic
@ocomolinaehain1795
@ocomolinaehain1795 7 месяцев назад
Random thought, but what if they kinda reverted the shotgun change, but still kept it as only one click? Like; hog does a left click, then the normal shot comes out and the old right click comes out just after
@theblueone_14
@theblueone_14 7 месяцев назад
Here’s my take on another way to use pigpen. Since it has a slow it allows for easier hooks
@michaeldavies2019
@michaeldavies2019 7 месяцев назад
I feel like I’ll want to swap the controls for hook and breather now, just makes more sense to me
@dhabu9017
@dhabu9017 7 месяцев назад
Yup, did that my first game on him.
@questionable_live
@questionable_live 7 месяцев назад
only reason I'm used to it is because of old Bastion
@inconsideratebox3000
@inconsideratebox3000 7 месяцев назад
Hog feels more focused now. Pre-rework Hog was sorta running around with no clear impact until you hook and kill a guy, which made you feel useless until you did that. Played Hog a lot and unironically wallowed in pity thinking I was a burden to my team with no utility besides hook. This wasn't an issue until OW2. OW1 Hog was more like a brute DPS so he had unique identity there, but after OW2, his lack of depth became way more obvious. Made him play rather stale as a solo tank since all he did was kill people, much like DPS. He had no way to help Support, which is very unique in a bad way since he had nothing to make up for it. Now he kinda does. This rework creates a clear gameplan now that you have the trap to play around. He feels even more like a bully tank which fits his character. Pull baddies into a room with good trap placement and they'll have a fatass and a trap between them and a fulfilling future. Seems very demoralizing, which is such Roadhog thing to do. Also, I'd like a way to manually activate trap so you can create some uniquely yucky situations. Would be an easy way to push the skill ceiling a bit higher. I kinda wished Whole Hog was reworked since it never synergized with Hog since day one, but alas, it didn't happen. Stings but it's whatever.
@daXstoRM5
@daXstoRM5 7 месяцев назад
honestly an idea for the mine could be, on activation, it does 60 dmg, and a stronger lucio boop in every direction away from the center. that with a bigger radius and shorter cooldown sounds interesting
@nathanlaleff4273
@nathanlaleff4273 7 месяцев назад
I feel like that would be too close to Junkrat's mine though.
@plazmafoxx
@plazmafoxx 7 месяцев назад
putting pigpen inside of a mauga ult would go crazy
@seanyeeets4675
@seanyeeets4675 7 месяцев назад
I played hog like twice before his rework and even it felt weird to me
@Markquis62154
@Markquis62154 7 месяцев назад
Like how Flats just now figuring out the camera for heros is at their bellybutton rather than their head
@Greg_Rock
@Greg_Rock 7 месяцев назад
They replaced Roadhog's Sandvich with the Dalokohs Bar.
@gunsandgamingus
@gunsandgamingus 7 месяцев назад
Imo new hog is still a sleeper pick if you use the trap more proactively and even as a tool to push
@Fitzness1
@Fitzness1 7 месяцев назад
Have fun getting insta countered and cc-ed to hell he’s definitely a sleeper bc he’s gonna be on the ground half the fight
@kurokubushi
@kurokubushi 7 месяцев назад
I had to put the the abilities on their old commands, and just put the new one on right click.
@YukiKi7sune
@YukiKi7sune 7 месяцев назад
I think it‘s Hook - Right click, Pig pen - E, and Healing shift.
@theoneaboveall9930
@theoneaboveall9930 7 месяцев назад
As a roadhog main it's gonna take me a while to get used to not having a right click, but I do like the trap.
@MythicMint
@MythicMint 7 месяцев назад
I still don't see how this makes hog into more of a team player.
@nonipplenoah6179
@nonipplenoah6179 7 месяцев назад
lmao the amount of times i have tried to right click someone from range and just wasted my puff took me at least 5 hours to get it down
@ther3dk1n9games6
@ther3dk1n9games6 7 месяцев назад
Swap binds so its, hook on right click. Breather on E and trap on shift. It makes a MASSIVE DIFFERENCE.
@miguelamorante
@miguelamorante 7 месяцев назад
The face when he finds a bug😂
@Transgenic86
@Transgenic86 7 месяцев назад
Imma change my bindings to be: [Right click] Hook, [Side mouse button] Heal, [E] Pig pen. Then, I can move around and heal. Also, right click to hook makes A TON OF SENSE.
@Artist____
@Artist____ 7 месяцев назад
Unfortunately hog is still hard gatekept by antinade. It may not be as bad as people play and learn the new rebreather. but I find being an ana main, throwing my antinade on cooldown means a dead hog.
@SuperSilver7591
@SuperSilver7591 7 месяцев назад
After YEARS of alt firing from range with hog it just feels so wrong now to use primary fire
@calilycan3213
@calilycan3213 7 месяцев назад
Pig pen being ram vortex but better is kinda funny ngl
@Koptland
@Koptland 7 месяцев назад
I changed my controls so heal is the same thing, I kept throwing my mine when I was about to die. Fun fact, that issue killed me about 12 times.
@bhilt6304
@bhilt6304 7 месяцев назад
one shot hook is easy but just you have to get close enough like to his nose and then shot and quick mele
@days1182
@days1182 7 месяцев назад
When i first say it i tough the pig pen icon was the troll emoji
@jkattaura
@jkattaura 7 месяцев назад
Feel like it would be pretty cool if Roadhog could grapple friendly's
@spicymeatballs2thespicening
@spicymeatballs2thespicening 7 месяцев назад
Hogweaver 💀
@xRawrBawr
@xRawrBawr 7 месяцев назад
Make tank passive apply to anti effects
@ztormur6504
@ztormur6504 7 месяцев назад
its a great rework in my opinion. nice and flowing kit. he could use a little more tankiness though.
@vultrexz
@vultrexz 7 месяцев назад
Flats could do a Roadhog cosplay
@Timotheuster
@Timotheuster 7 месяцев назад
They should like, make the teams 6v6, and have a second tank so you can have like an off tank
@Diren_7
@Diren_7 7 месяцев назад
What if they also reduced tank hp slightly, bring back 6v6 and tank synergies 🦍
@Timotheuster
@Timotheuster 7 месяцев назад
@@Diren_7 We should tell Blizzard, I'm sure they'd listen
@tonympal
@tonympal 7 месяцев назад
From the bright side at least they didn’t make hook a movement ability…
@marzman4
@marzman4 7 месяцев назад
They need to up the heal value tbh
@Desam.
@Desam. 7 месяцев назад
why is right click removed as if we had an issue with it
@geerakindeathrider5693
@geerakindeathrider5693 7 месяцев назад
I think hog needs his 50% damage reduction back as he’s to squishy to survive on the front line and it’s still really hard to make space as hog with the 50% reduction he could face tank stuff and actually be a tank and take space
@DrBird-kp5wd
@DrBird-kp5wd 7 месяцев назад
This is the rework they've spent like 4 seasons working on guys 💀
@skydive-lr5yy
@skydive-lr5yy 7 месяцев назад
Hook, 90% shot, throw trap to make follow up shot easier
@dennydude
@dennydude 7 месяцев назад
I am impressed with the rework. It feels like the OW team has some idea of what they are doing.
@rileysheehan943
@rileysheehan943 7 месяцев назад
I don't think i've seen a rework actually lower the skill ceiling before
@davidnewhart2533
@davidnewhart2533 7 месяцев назад
His shotgun feels more like a magnum. Definitely need more accuracy in shots.
@Its_me_Stolas
@Its_me_Stolas 7 месяцев назад
Sniper hog is real
@Ninj4Fox2020
@Ninj4Fox2020 7 месяцев назад
I thing the hog one shot is still possible, I watched Cyx video earlier and he pulled it off pretty consistently, the pig pen makes it far more easier though.
@millertime-7999
@millertime-7999 7 месяцев назад
I love you and your vid’s 🥺🥺
@lostspider343
@lostspider343 7 месяцев назад
feel like the trap is a bit underwhelming however, he's bettr at bein a consistent threat in fights cause of the heal rework
@mattevans4377
@mattevans4377 7 месяцев назад
What I'd say is, old Hog either did ALL the damage, or zero damage, this Hog is much more consistent.
@stock6600
@stock6600 7 месяцев назад
Damn, that Mei tried really hard to sabotage you XD
@posermatt1293
@posermatt1293 7 месяцев назад
you can one shot with a trap and hook combo
@UsawaFitness
@UsawaFitness 7 месяцев назад
I hate how he drinks with the right click
@TangleHamain
@TangleHamain 7 месяцев назад
You can one shot combo with the Pig Pen though. Aka, he is still the exact same nightmare..
@spicymeatballs2thespicening
@spicymeatballs2thespicening 7 месяцев назад
Overwatch players when roadhog has an ability that can actually kill with proper setup:
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