The M1 Mac Mini was an impressive machine with one major caveat - Apple removed the 10 gigabit NIC. We thought it was because they couldn’t make it work. We thought wrong… Or did we? Check out the Apple Mac Mini M1: geni.us/jJPvr
@@GreenDachshund hmmm ja dat is waar. Nog niet eens over nagedacht. Ik heb trouwens wel het gevoel alsof je in Nederland minder snel internet hebt in vergelijking met Amerika bijvoorbeeld.
That flip at 0:53 was a nice touch, I really appreciate it! Great work Nicole, I liked it so much I actually looked at the credits so I don't have to write "whoever edited this" :D
That was incredible Nicole. Seriously one of the sickest ideas for an edit. Do you know how absurd it is to REWIND a video just to re-watch a particularly good edit?
I think the video rotate effect should have been the other way around to match the direction Linus rotated the box. Other than that, it was a cool trick!
It's super impressive in the real world, where you aren't staring at numbers. I have had it for a few months now, and sometimes it's not even funny how much faster it is than eiter my Mac Pro, or my desktop *gaming* PC. Even with the 8Gb RAM version that I have, Photoshop is stupidly faster than it's on my 32Gb i7-4790K Windows PC. After first launch, application start times are hilarious. Like, I've never seen Photoshop launch in a few seconds. The 8Gb is not even limiting with a dozen apps open at the same time, one of which is Google Chrome with 20+ tabs open. And some of them are still running *emulated*. Once every apps is Apple Silicon optimized, this thing is ridiculously fast in the real world.
@@phantomrider78 M2 is the successor to M1. M1X is just more high end M1 with more CPU and GPU cores. M2 is new architecture. I mean M1X will be very impressive, but it goes into devices most consumers just won't be buying (16 inch Macbook Pro likely going to be 2500+ dollars for the base model). Maybe M1X powered Mac mini would be more economical choice, will have to wait and see.
Being both a Linus and Apple fan, and seeing Linus be genuinely appreciative of an Apple product, is like seeing your best friends who hated each other actually enjoying time together
That wildly scrolling text might measurably affect performance. It might have been intentional, to induce usage of the display steam, but I often experienced printing introducing a bottleneck.
i want to know more about pci-e lanes and the other ways to access nvme drives. i thought i knew it but i actually know very little about what a pci-e lane is.
I believe their logic was to create a channel that would potentially appeal to the millions of Apple customers, rather than just a few thousand LTT viewers who also use Linux.
I've been so insanely impressed with my mac mini. The wife wanted a couch work station so we picked one up. It's been incredibly stable, very fast for normal word processing and light video/photo editing. It integrated with my Acronis backups on the home server. I'd recommend one to anyone who's apple based and wanted a decent desktop workstation that doesn't require massive horsepower.
The M1 has blown away so many of your outdated intel assumptions. And remember, this is their entry-level, bottom-line Apple Silicon SoC. The sky really is the limit.
Nothing better for everyone's favorites than one company knocking it out of the park. The bigger the jump the competition makes, the harder they work for their own.
Iiinteresting, finally some answers on what M1 is doing differently with memory/storage. So it's memory mapping the whole SSD directly, kind of like the PS5 idea which I speculated it may have shared.
The M1 Apple products are giving me early 2000’s feels like the G3 and G4 products did. I think Apple might be on the verge of something game changing (for their product stack at least)
M1 Mac Mini is a pretty good machine if you really want macOS on the desktop at an affordable price assuming you provide your own keyboard, mouse, and display. One of the best releases of Mac Mini in a very long time.
Is display stream compression a type of compression that doesn't compromise the image quality? Because I feel like one of the biggest consumers of mac products (besides software engineers) are design and video people that may need color accuracy.
Might not reveal anything, but it would be interesting to figure out the limits for the non 10-gig Mac Mini. Would each USB port get its own PCIE lane because why not?
Well, we know that the performance of the ports is the same between the two Mac Minis. Just that the 10-Gig version has a 10-gig port that has it's own connection that does not take away from the other ports. It's just an objective upgrade if you buy it and want that. Other than that, they are identical.
@@iamperplexed4695 Yes, specifically one with a pretty weird aspect ratio that comes close to 2:1 :D Edit: I think Linus mentioned somewhere that they film in 3:2 I think? It really leaves almost no dead space on my Pixel 3a as well which is nice
@@iamperplexed4695 Yeah that's fair, for most phones it's not an issue and it doesn't bother me on my 3a that much either, but since most people on RU-vid film 16:9, you will have noticeably substantial black bars on both sides. Not so much with LTT. :D
I'm keeping my 1 year old AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Hackintosh with a Vega 64 and my 2017 MacBook Pro until they prove me there are no design mistakes. The laptop is proof of design mistakes in first-green products: scissor keyboard had problems, screen cable had problems etc etc etc. Maybe when they release the M2X or M3 it'll be time for me to retire the Hackintosh and switch. I'm concerned with the laptop though. Maybe it won't last 4 more years. 😔
@@whateverrandomnumber For SURE don't buy any first-gen Apple product. I can think of a few examples and why they wouldn't have been a good choice: 1984 - 1st Gen Macintosh: too little RAM to do nearly anything (128k) 1987 - Macintosh II: Very ground-breaking, but quite expensive, and slower than models that would come out just one year or so later. 1999 - 1st Gen PowerMac G4: G4 slapped onto a G3 motherboard. IIRC, they called this the "oopsie!" model, or something like that. Very rushed. Not performant. 2006 - 1st Gen MacBook: Used the rather underpowered Core Duo. One year later, they used the Core 2 Duo, which had a lot more power. 2007 - 1st Gen iPhone: underpowered processor (fixed in iPhone 3GS), very slow 2G network. Only had iOS support up to iOS 3 2010 - 1st Gen iPad: Bulkier than all others, quickly lost iOS support.
@@RamLaska my 2017 MacBook Pro was supposed to have it's most grotesque problems fixed, since we had the 2016 to "test", right? Well so I thought. So nah, I'm gonna wait for the next gen of processors also.
You'd be surprised how similar the production costs are probably. You're not really paying for materials nowadays, more machine time and tooling, which doesn't scale linearly.
@@DJDiarrhea I generally get the eeks from modern manufacturing, they can pump out a few million DVD players for not much, yet a new remote for my car costs twice as much and contains a mere fraction of the tech and materials in the DVD player.
to summarize thunderbolt 3 port has its own bus at 40 Gbps. Thunderbolt Hub allows a single thunderbolt port to be shared with multiple devices. for example many USB devices can be connected at the same time and can operate at full speed USB 2.0: 480 MBps USB 3.0: 5 Gbps USB 3.1 Gen 1 SuperSpeed: 5 Gbps. USB 3.1 Gen 2 SuperSpeed +: 10 Gbps. USB 3.2 Gen 1 × 1 (compatible with USB-A and USB-B and USB-C): up to 5 Gbps . USB 3.2 Gen 2 × 1 (compatible with USB-A, USB-B and USB-C): up to 10 Gbps . USB 3.2 Gen 1 × 2 (with USB-C only): Up to 10 Gbps . USB 3.2 Gen 2×2 (with USB-C only): Up to 20 Gbps . interesting the irony isnt menitioned that Thunderbolt is the brand name of a hardware interface developed by Intel (in collaboration with Apple). A lot forget all the technologies that the partnership brought and this very video highlights rhe collaboration they did together to create the thunderbolt interface still used today even on the M1 (SoC) chips
LOL! At 1:04 "The only way to find out about them, is to have your performance drop, while in the middle of doing something," and RU-vid decides to stop playing buffer on me (spinning wheel)! I thought it was a joke they were doing at first! That would have been great!
I have the take a break feature on RU-vid turned on for every 15 minutes. Sometimes the video will pause and wait a sec before showing take a break. I get this all the time. It looks like someone is about to make a joke, or made a punchline and are letting the crickets chirp. Happens especially when I watch meme videos.
I was a pretty dedicated Pc user for very many years...Now I own an M1 MacBook Air. And I love it to bits. It's by far the snappiest and smoothest computer I've even owned. And all that performance with no fan noise is just surreal.
Interesting that they're interfacing the m1 directly with the flash instead of going through pcie. It totally makes sense though, the ipad doesn't need to connect to anything else other than what's inside the box, so using pcie to connect to the other devices would mean they'd need to build a pcie interface for the other devices as well, requiring more silicon and more expense. I'm guessing after they compiled macos for the ipad they realised they'll need pcie to connect external devices (sorry, I was literally born 30 seconds ago; what's you ess bee?), so they just dragged the pcie block onto their design in Baby's First Verilog, dragged the lines from the blocks to the i/o bus, hit cmd-c cmd-v a few times then pressed print and waited for the confirmation email from TSMC. The fact that you're not hitting any bottlenecks with the existing pcie lanes suggests they've got at least that much i/o capacity in their chip design (I mean within the chip itself, not to external devices - clearly they've hit their pcie lane limit with this mac mini). It'll really be telling if they don't have any more pcie lanes in their next chip. That will tell us everything we need to know about whether a new mac pro is coming any time soon thereafter.
I bought an M1 MacBook pro for audio production. It's actually pretty good; it'll be moreso when the software gets optimized. The lack of I/O is still a PIA, even with a single audio interface and a MIDI controller, though. You basically have to get a dongle if you want to plug the laptop in for power.
Have you ever just flat out not cared about a video and on top of that not fully understand the video but you want to learn so bad you just keep watching it, and then rewatch it to try and understand but still feel lost?
I saw errors in the terminal output about access denied writing to raw disks (/dev/rdiskx). If the test script directly writes into the disk (instead of into a file/folder on the mounted filesystem), this means you aren't actually writing to the SSDs. These errors may also cause the excessive CPU usage. Consider disabling SIP for this test.
Linus was the best hiring decision Anthony has ever made, look how it pays dividends on a regular basis. Shrewd management from the cool dude who runs LMG. Not that daft hippy ;) Haha sorry I was in Yvonne mode for a second there!
So I really had to wait for a Video from a PC Guy to finally know that M1 is capable of Display Stream Compression AND exactly show me the Speed! THANKS
The CPU increase with the missing drive is probably due to CPU being in "busy wait" ... that's were you have a loop/iteration with no tasks to schedule essentially eating itself alive scheduling its iterations ... this can happen with any CPU and OS scheduler and is down to the software (IE: in this instance, the bash script) ... usually if your loop/iteration doesn't have work to schedule during an iteration, you'd schedule a sleep to keep the CPU from "busy waiting"
I was about to move back to Windows PCs, until Apple introduced the M1. I bought a MacMini. At first, I had some issues, but they were solved by a new version of Big Sur. The M1 still doesn't perform at the level they announced on launching day, but it is an amazing chip. Now I can't wait for the 16" MacBook Pro to be updated and get one. There are things that are still better in other systems, Google Maps is way better than the Apple maps, and Microsoft OneDrive cloud is way better than iCloud, but I can use those services on a Mac, so there is no need to switch systems anymore.
Ok, so judging by a quick video glance at that HN thread, Apple implemented a solution that is so tightly integrated into the system that it's not even an "ssd", but maybe closer to raw flash storage just like smartphones. Damn, that's impressive. And it makes a world of sense. So many years making iPhones have taught Apple how to integrate hardware and software to the tightest way possible. ARM allows that by itself, but Apple has a lot of credit for its implementation. I'm surprised.
You guys should do a review and a video on what razer is doing with their Sneki Snek plushies and such and talk about what they are trying to achieve with that
What kind of Sabrent TB NVMe Enclosure was that and what chip was it using? Because according to what the manufacturer seems to state it is IMPOSSIBLE to reach the numbers shown in the video (TB3 SSD seq read speeds close to 40 Gbps). Even the newest Intel TB3 controller would still be limited to a x4 Gen 3 / "32 Gbps" PCIe connection, which is never exceeding 30 Gbps.
So, did you try writing and reading on the Network at the same time? The 10G nic SHOULD be capable of this. And that would need 2 PCIe lanes wouldn't it?
Bet the performance drain with the missing drive was mostly due to error output. We forget how expensive it can be to just dump things out to stdio as fast as possible.
