$699 Mac mini vs $1,000 PC: Which Is Faster? 

You should stop typing on your butterfly keyboard Macbook when writing the script ;P

@@spankjamer Butterfly keyboards really aren’t that bad to type on, I quite like the one on my 2015 12” MacBook

@@nathantaylor2026 agreed.. it never failed me either.. and i kinda like it more than the new magic keyboard i’m not sure whether it was the ACTUAL failure rate tht is high, or people just hate it becoz there’s lack of key travel.. most youtubers i watch all talk mostly on the travel instead of the failure

I had to replace mine (because the sleep sensor failed), but the palm rests are cheap on eBay and somewhat straight forward to do. I like the feel. The feel kinda like a no travel mechanical keyboard. Magics aren’t too bad though.

I like butterfly too, felt more 'Apple'ish. Kinda miss it on MacAir with scissor switches. I mean a Mac with an Apple chip and the butterfly would have been awesome.

Austin are you actually balding?

Quinn the apple sheep😂

@@david3n544 don't make him face the truth like that

@@david3n544 he probably is and it shouldn’t be a problem my guy. Most guys loose there hair it’s just a part of getting older and there’s no shame in that!

Hey guys, it's Austin!

What changed? Better finances?

@@rjbse That and my realisation that user experience is more important than raw specs.

Actually it's appear that very soon i'll become like you, start 2 years ago with ipad pro, now with macbook, and maybe soon with IPhone for the first time.

@@muath7962 I finally broke free last 2 years giving up my macbook then finally my iPhone for an S10+ never looking back. Got tired of paying so much for zero customization other than storage ram and screen sizes. I can finally tailor my PC exactly how i want it while not compromising on specs or performance. Doesn't impress me at all one bit apple's going to find ways to lock people more and more into their ecosystem and soon they're going to start bottlenecking their own M1s to get you to upgrade even though you don't need to.

@@michealpersicko9531 I hope you enjoy with it🌹, actually i'm a big fan for Samsung more than 6 years from s3 to current note 9, Samsung mobiles is AMAZING, but after 2 years you'll face problems that's lead you to hate your mobile, my phone note 9 has a great performance, but imagine only after 2 years the phone has no updates!! Only a few months come security update, so my flagship phone after 2 years is not able to update to android 11 and this is really disappointed.. i know the new phone will supported for 3 years of updates but still not good for 1000$ device.. And after more than 6 years with android, until now i'm not able to organize messy file system, every app you download it will mess up your file system.. yes until now i LOVE Samsung devices but mostly very soon i will convert to IPhone, and this doesn't mean iPhone is great more than Samsung, but the ecosystem is such a great thing that i will never have in android..

You weren’t already subbed??

@@carlaaronson9415 some people usually just watch casually and dont sub. I usually do that lol

@@bluebaconjake405 true. I know personally that it makes a smaller Yt channels day when you sub though.

@@carlaaronson9415 yep.

Hahaha FRIK!!1!!!!1

My intel cpu doesnt make half the heat my NVIDIA GPU makes!

@@ryanmalin well a GPU in general runs hotter, then a CPU. however, under load the GPU runs cooler in comparison.

but you'll be able to afford a heater with the difference in power consumption

So don't use m1

Have fun with that electricity bill lmao

Crak

Grémeer!

You kinda look like Derek ngl

Now change the logo!

It was loud, annoying and unnecessary....

I had to watch that intro twice. Nice.

@@ElZamo92 agree :D

Snazzy af boi

Not really as Intel still own for gaming and given the whole fact that recently Ryzen has had supply issues, price issues and chips turning up dead. Now problems with 500 mobos. Oooooft. I mean ignore the issues with SSD... Ahem.

Pepperidge Farm remembers it

@@razerow3391 As far as I can recall my 5900X bests the newest Intel chips in single core (I.e. gaming) performance, too. Granted they will probably take the lead back with 11th-gen chips.

@@razerow3391 I mean the SSD wear issue is that Apple set the swappiness value too high in macOS. That's like a tiny software update fix probably.

​@@razerow3391 Even with the SSD swap being high, it will probably still outlast the usefulness of the computer. It's not like it is a cheap SSD or HDD. Also the Dead Ryzen chips were only reported unusually high by one buyer in lower quantities which essentially could be a statistical anomaly (and seemingly so considering other retailers that have had much more stock only seem to have failure rates slightly higher than intels'). I am not sure what has been recently happening with x570 chipset and the usb ports, so I wont comment on that, but so far it looks to be a problem with pcie gen4 since they do work when switched to gen3. Also Intel is on their own 14nm which is much easier to get a hold of rather than TSMC's 7nm. Of course right now I recommend going intel for it's price for gaming. 10600k is $230 right now which is a pretty great price. For creatives, I'd have to recommend amd though. xP

so what song is it?

What did you find?

What's the song?

My Vibe by Waykap for those too lazy to open it themselves

@@wildcard3237 no need to be passive aggressive

Ok, thats kind of trippy that I paused to read the comments at that exact time.

Same haha

Mine arrives today, so excited to go fanless!

You know you can get a quiet PC if you want.

@@ajwasthere No shit, but you have to spend quite a bit of money on a quality case, heat sinks, and fans to make it really quiet. My Ryzen system cost nearly as much as my Macbook, but it still makes noise and generates a ton of heat.

@@vectors2final36 it does cost money to get a silent system but it's actually very easy nowadays. You dont need to buy fancy cases anymore. In order to get the most silent system you simply need an unobstructed case. Phanteks and lian li have some great budget options. You can buy a 5 pack of silent fans for next to nothing and you're good to go.

And a gen 1! Sort of.

The secret is not the chip, is the software. Apple can make sure that every transistor put inside there will be used by the system. On PC no matter how strong the IGP or other supporting hardware, will Windows make use of it? Will windows make RIGHT use of it? Windows struggles even to handle high core CPUs. No matter how good the SoCs AMD and Intel can make, they don't have Apple's software integrating and this hurts a lot. Something needs to be done to solve this.

@@deathdoor the M1 even performed better than Microsoft's own ARM processor when emulating Windows 10 for ARM

@@doiceslife8374 microsoft dont have own arm... apple on the other hand, owns multiple hardware companies, and only builds a handful of devices that they can pick and choose and customize to run their own software... inefficiencies in pcs comes from too much customization and generic hardware combinations... software cant be minimized as it needs to run on too many varieties of hardware for way too long... apple has luxury to expire and not support old hardware... also apple's strength is that they are highly specialized in mobile devices and has so much cash to afford best people in the market to choose at any price they want. they have too much cash to afford these... i very much doubt apple chose to be this power house but as a by product of their mobile consumer business, they almost completely ignore business customers now. they however now have a product that came out of years of frustrations (i doubt they planned it like this but financial power and pure frustration) they can if they are clever put stuff for business market too... be it workstations and servers... i dont know if they want to but their mobile consumer business is doing way too well for them to divert their attention to commercial business... i hope they dont, as microsoft did in the past with mobile markets...

yeah but is still not that good at least as far as laptops and especially because apple is marketed many times for work, and apple is still a shitty company in more ways than any other, if i changed laptop or computer once every 1 or 2 years sure only now with the M1 chip it could make sense to move to apple (lowest tiers, not if you do heavy work) but there is still so many things to take in consideration, that being said if i wanted a small computer for a living room the M1 mac mini is the best option, i was surprised with this video because is what i have thought since this came out, probably mostly because of how weak the competition is, and if the macbook air was $200 cheaper it would be a clear winner (even with apple's practices), which is a huge improvement from the previous one where a $500-$600 laptop beated the macbook air. Of course apple is gonna probably sell more with this than ever before but as far as people that know about computers it got very close to the line of it being good for the price but not quite yet.

I worry that at some point, the crypto miners will find the Mini to be a cost-effective tool, and run the price out of reach (and/or the inventory down to zero.)

That is haram

Love the profile pic bro 🏎 🏁

Whats the final form? 300 fps on 50W only?

How do you think I feel? XD I just ordered an M1 Mac mini and I'm excited beyond belief since it's the first 100% brand new Mac I've gotten for myself in 14 years!

@@ShiggitayMediaProductions I have had a M1 Mac mini for 4 months, I say you will love it

@@srikarvundavalli5934 Oooh yes. I love mine. It's a content creation powerhouse! It's what I got it for. I can do it just fine here on my Ryzen 9 3900X, but I prefer macOS over Linux/Windows. The M1 Mac mini fits the bill perfectly!

@@ShiggitayMediaProductions I wanted to get the Mac for the reliability. Before the Mac mini, I built a PC with Ryzen 5 2600 and it was having issues with random bsod, nvme drive randomly going undetected. Even before that I had a Pc with a PSU failure. So I got annoyed with Windows, sold my PC and jumped to MacOS since I was using iPhone and iPad anyway. It was a great choice haha, never had a crash in 4 months.

@@srikarvundavalli5934 Yeah my M1 mini is super reliable (also to note I'm a long Mac user, so that helped sway my decision to get one), but I found something that it can't do well, and it might be a software thing: I was trying to blur a serial number in my unboxing video of my mini (it's the newest video on my channel if you want to check it out) and I was trying to use DaVinci Resolve's tracking algorithm/feature. Each time I'd make an adjustment it would give me the spinning beachball of death. Maybe it's a weird version of Resolve? I don't know, but that's the only thing that gives my M1 beast any trouble. Editing/exporting etc is a slick experience (it takes no time at all to export a 13 minute project like my unboxing). I also got it for game console streaming (via capture card ofc) and I've done some test streams using OBS Studio and StreamLabs OBS for macOS (which are both running under Rosetta 2) and it was a decently smooth experience! I can't wait for both OBS apps to get their M1 native versions! My experience with it is nothing less than amazing! I'm glad I dropped the $1200 or so on it in the configuration I got!

i just did

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😯

It definitely is impressive but the initial start up cost would be costly for companies and so with switching over MDM systems so it will never happen

Apple has nothing like a windows domain system with group polices and centralized management.

i'm really interested to see what the supposed "m1x" will do.

Good call, I'd do the same too as it's likely a 16" Apple silicon machine will blow every other laptop away.

@@JCJW101 well no.

@@NonsensicalSpudz why do you think not? The lowest end slowest cheapest m1 macbook is trading blows with some of the highest end laptops now. Why wouldn't the upspecced 16 inch be the top?

@@cinialvespow1054 because there are certain tasks, that M1 can't do, because the technologies require AMD or NVIDIA for example, also M1X is and well be a fixed spec, it has a limit on the GPU end, but... it will definitely be a beast

Considering it's priced as a laptop these days it's rly not that impressive

@@abdulahad200 and due to iPadOS the tasks one can do is quite limited comparing to a laptop too

@@dickiewongtk True. You can get a lot more out of that SoC on the MacBook Air

@@dickiewongtk yeah that's true, iPadOS serverely limits the capabilities of the iPad, but for most general tasks, emails, writing, research, web browsing, etc etc, the iPad is perfectly fine and its power it's incredible. I recently bought an iPad pro M1 11", mostly for on the go photo editing but I recently tested editing a small video on it with Luma Fusion, throwing the heaviest footage my cameras can shoot, I use lumix gh5 and s5, so I shot some 4k 10bit 4-2-2 all-i 25fps footage at 400mbps, 4k 10bit 4-2-0 50fps at 200mbps and a few weaker versions, all in log. This sort of footage makes my razer 15 struggle when editing, especially when editing graded footage. The iPad handled the footage no problem at all, complete and smooth scrubbing, no hitching, no problem with colour grading applied as well completely seamless. Honestly I wouldn't be able to edit client work on it, nor would I want to do anything too complicated just due to the UI but I may shift any passion and personal videos on there. It was so much nicer, fun and easy to use in comparison with dealing with premiere pro and it's instability and I think a part of that is due to how simple iPadOS is. It's light on the system meaning programs and the power can be utilised much more efficiently.

I was thinking the same, however, I'm yet to run into any problem, and I'm running fairly complicated Cinema 4D projects.

@@aqhanis macmini good for vfx work ??

@@souravmeena6808 It's really not too bad. It's very well optimised for C4D. You can get away with far more than you'd expect, including some hefty physics calculations. AfterEffects is a whole another beast though as it isn't as well optimised.

I bought mine for 700euros slim laptop with intel, gtx 1650 and 120hz screen. M1 laptop cost 1.5k.

That’s cool, ryzen 4000 is great

@@racistpixel1017 what's that laptop name please I am trying to buy a nice laptop

@@ashithneethipudi5758 asus fx 571gt. There is different variants, so make sure you get with 120hz screen,i see now in my country, this laptop is at 650euros for limited time. laptop is fast and snappy, no heating or throttling issues as for now even on max load on both cpu and gpu. It comes with 500gb intel optane nvme ssd but 1 dim soldered ram and one dimm replacable. I managed to sqeese there 20gb ram and add extra crucial mx500 1tb ssd

I got the Macbook Air for £800 brand new. There are deals out there if you keep an eye out.

then all you will be missing are the games. ;)

@@marcelscherzer8385 yep lol macOS doesn’t have many games

Not to mention smartphone like battery standby time No windows laptop can you fully charge and leave it closed and not used for a week and more and come to it still running, like a smartphone

People that know how PCs work: HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Three letters. S. S. And D.

It's still overpriced but M1 is impressive

@@mathieul4303 cud u suggest me anything better in its class tho? its difficult....

@@razerow3391 didnt get u mate.. :/

@@mathieul4303 It's not overpriced if you are speaking about performance / $. Though Apple's design philosophy (make sure it's as hard as possible for the user to do anything outside what we allow) is rather dissapointing at that price point and on a "pro" machine. I don't want just the domination in performance the apple II had in comparison to PC's, I want the pro-consumer design as well. (Bring bacc the woz)

Yep, absolutely.

It already is!

These comment shows a huge lack understanding of why the M1 is even fast to begin with.. Intel obsolete??? Lol. Intel uses Monolithic Processor Design at 14nm. AMD uses Chiplet Design at 7nm. Apple is using System on a Chip Design with PoP (Package on a Package stacking) at 5nm. The first problem why Intel chips are slower than all others is because they're still on 14nm.. and you know what? They're doing pretty damn good at 14nm vs. 7nm. vs. 5nm! They have literally pushed 14nm to its limits. Further than any other company. Their chips will still have less latency than AMD chips because it doesn't have to deal with IPC latencies over the Infinity Fabric. However, Chiplet design is showing its colours with huge performance in SMT and pretty damn good performance in ST. Now that design is out of the way, let's see why Apple's M1 is fast and why it MIGHT be a setup for failure. The M1 chip uses SOC design with PoP. It means they actually take the CPU, DRAM, GPU, Cache, Neural Engine, etc (SOC).. and cram it in a vertical stack layout onto the same chip (PoP). They do not have the RAM far away from the CPU at all.. Not only that, but it's a UNIFIED MEMORY design (Apple's fancy word for Integrated Graphics with SAM (AMD).. aka Resizable BAR) so it means the GPU shares the same memory as the CPU and everything else. Actually, the CPU, GPU, Neural Engine, and any component that needs access to the memory & cache already has direct access to it. In other words, there is no need to transfer/upload something to the GPU when it already has access to it directly (this is one reason why their iGPU beats Intels). It is also RISC based instruction set, and the M1 is limited to a SINGLE THREAD PER CORE gives it a huge advantage in benchmarks whereas Hyper-Threading will cripple the Intel/AMD chips in a ST benchmark and blow away the M1 in an SMT benchmark. Do all of what Apple did at 5nm and you're beating the competition (temporarily). Now like I said, everything is literally on the same chip, and it's optimized as best as it can. They can possibly squeeze out a little bit more performance by re-arranging but it won't amount for much. What will amount to a boost in the next generation is when they go to the next MOSFET node 3nm process. But even then they're already squeezing out as much as they can out of this chip. So in terms of raw computing power, if Intel and AMD were on the 5nm process node, they'd destroy the M1.. After all Intel is still on 14nm and still doing quite well against both 7nm and 5nm competitors. There is one advantage Apple has though: They design both the OS and the hardware so they can make the OS highly optimized for that hardware. Windows can't do that as it runs on many different hardware configurations. Finally, the reason the Intel chips suffered so much in a Mac is because Apple's thermal design is terrible! They constantly pushed for the thinnest possible macs with no regards to anything else and down clocked every single Intel chip ever placed in a mac.. But oh well.. people will continue to lose upgradeability (every single thing is soldered together).. Apple already has to replace the entire motherboard for all M1's affected by the USB-C charging dock issue lol.. and now the SSD issue is even worse as you can't replace the SSD lol. But without truly understanding anything, you guys will swear by them. :l P.S. The M1 based computers still use Intel JHL8040R Thunderbolt 4 Retimer and Intel's thunderbolt technology (will be available in USB-4).. that makes Intel not "obsolete" ;)

@@FADHsquared did you watch Cold Fusion's video?

@@FADHsquared The paragraphs were explaining design of the chips.. 1. I'm not saying it's a good thing. They are already moving to TSMC's 5nm via outsourcing their Core-i3's to TSMC. They will be outsourcing the 3nm chips to TSMC in 2022 as well.. They are also going to 7nm in their own fab. So all I was saying is that they're doing quite well competing currently at 14nm lithography than people give them credit for. I was simply explaining the difference in speed and power and why the design of the M1 isn't going to help it in the upcoming releases vs. Intel && AMD. 2. What? How does "They've already squeezed out as much as they can with this chip" exactly translate to: "iPads and iPhones shouldn't keep improving".. Did I miss something here? 3. Ok.. you can literally say this for any chip on the market right now. Even AMD's 5800X, 5900X, 5950X chips use a lot of power. Even the Nvidia 3080 uses a lot of power. Yet Intel mobile processors do fine in Dell XPS laptops but not in a MacbookPro's which LEAKS Lithium Hexafluorophosphate from the Li-ion battery. Again, XPS and ASUS laptops and a bunch of others are doing just fine with Intel CPUs. You guys are forgetting Apple once ditched their own PPC instruction set (Power-PC) to go back to Intel lol.. The M1 isn't the first RISC based instruction set Apple has adopted. It also isn't the 1st PoP on SOC design either. I guess we'll all just have to wait for the next 2-3 generations of chips to see who comes out on top. ARM is going to be great for Mobile devices (Laptops, Phones, etc).. It already is. But it won't be "Desktop" quality any time soon.

@@FADHsquared I accept the cop out :)

you will also loose the PCI architecture if you exchange it against a SoC. desktops and servers have 1.5 TB RAM today - the 9000 euro mac studio model has 128. for me the main point about ARM is that if you run in the lower half of its CPU power, they are amazing energy savers.

Thanks!!

She will still cheat on you

@@Makta972 wtf dude, not cool.

@@Makta972 WTF is wrong with you?

Literally busted out laughing. In public. With my earbuds in.

synthetic benchmarks which were designed for x86 and were running on the mac through roseta translation layer. but still its beating out the ryzen is entirely on the basis of good design. not because of black magic

Arm is the the future man, it’s time for x86 to die

@@jacksonmyers1892 Doubtful, ARM is RISC-based and is good at only a few workloads. It is the future of mobile, but there will always be a need for brute force and a broader array of instruction sets which is where x86 shines

different frame rate.

This sounds likely. Also, nobody seem to notice all these benchmarks are done with cpus that run on ddr4 while the m1 employs ddr5 ram... It is clear to everybody, however, Intel and AMD have been sleeping for at least 10 years. If you have to use a apple product in order to have power efficiency, that is a problem... it does not even run Linux. Even more troublesome is the concept you need to have a very integrated system - a SOC - to achieve that. If that is the case, we could see the end of the modular pc concept and, make no mistake, a general and consistent rise in cost of ownership.

YOU ARE GRANTED A LONG, HEALTHY LIFE!

@@snazzy i actually wanted to die and so now what

@@zerotwo_.002 no please don't do that you are not allowed to die mate you are worth life please don't do that.

@@snazzy YAY

@@snazzy bro , sick intro

Same way I feel I want double or triple the graphics performance

Don't the last gen Intel-based Macs have actual thunderbolt and eGPU support?

IMO, eGPU support from Apple is likely dead....Apple is leaving behind "partnerships" with AMD etc.... the whole point of the new SoCs is the ability to be as independent as possible from the schedules and whims of other developers. Next Gen M-Series chips will be the final nail in the coffin for discreet graphic processors in mobile devices.

eGPUs are theoretically powerful but are bottlenecked by the connectors

I M1 has thunderbolt you can use PCIe devices per the USB-4 connections what it does not have is ARM64 AMD drivers but for other PCIe devices that it does have drivers for it works very well, network cards, etc.