It is a lot better with this !!! Man you're an awesome youtubeur you do some awesome content and you have so awesome ideas for the tracks so continue like this and I will continue following u ! Peace ! (Ho and turn 1 at paul ricard should be a 20° left corner so it's a heavy breaking zone, but it's just my thoughts gg Tommo !)
@Rugby Crave The F1 world championship started in 1950/51 but several countries (France, Germany, Italy, Monaco, Britain and possibly a few others) had held one -off Grands Prix pre-War.
Honestly, just deleting the chicane from the back straight at Paul Ricard would help, a lot. Teams would need to run less downforce for the whole lap too.
Either get rid of it which is possible, as the track is LITERALLY built for that area like abu Dhabi turn 4-5, or make it a very hard braking, monza turn 1 type.
The ramp for the Helix pedestrian bridge might also be in the way though. Alternatively as it's a street circuit perhaps we could rotate between different layouts/routes for each year of the Singapore GP, to make it more interesting
Just seen it on drive to survive and my tv doesn't cope well with all the stripes in the long panning shots. Thats why news readers don't wear stripey suits.
@@angeleko4241 Macau (political considerations aside) is bloody good as well, but not really a fair comparison, as it's nowhere near capable of hosting F1 races.
thats my home race, and ive been at the circuit, and i honestly think the part where the chicane area cant be removed cos the government wont remove the youth olympic park, and that area around there is a public road
That's what really pisses me off. There are so many different layouts to Yas Marina, the race is already a borefest why not experiment with said different layouts?
Wow, a few years later and we have: - Sochi and France removed from the kalender - Monaco and China the same as they work - Spain, Abu Dhabi and Singapore did nearly what you said. Amazing 🔥
- The returns of the French Grand Prix is looking impossible for me, even more impossible than the German Grand Prix. - Still waiting for the Monaco Grand Prix with track changed, while, for me, the Chinese Grand Prix not need change. - Glad to see the Spanish*, Abu Dhabi, and Singapore Grands Prix to became much more better. * = Only for moved to Madrid in 2026 due to politics reason in between Spanish and Catalan government.
Just make it a combination F1 race and triathlon. Start the swimming by having to escape your sinking car. It’s the last race of the season, you won’t need it after that anyway.
I born in Valencia, I live in Valencia, and I love F1 more than my life. I still thinking that The Valencia Street Circuit was better than Barcelona Catalunya. I know that they often are two boring races, but man, remember 2012, what an amazing race we hosted.
You kind of got your wish with Singapore with the bottom parts of the circuit turned into a straight, but it goes slightly opposite from what you considered initially.
I love Singapore. It's a great event to go attend. Just get rid of that stadium bit, make that a straight away and use the stadium for concerts, mega screens, interviews, etc.
Paul ricard is a circuit you hate, or love, (or a bit of the two) but having 167 tracks... They managed to use the worst? That's really an achievement, like you said at the start of the vid
@@stepladder3257 it's the organisers with the money not the country. It's a similar scenario in UAE theres a much better track in Dubai but the organisers want their track to be on the calendar
@@stepladder3257 Money has everything to do with it. Moscow Raceway is two hours away from Moscow, in the middle of nowhere. Russia is trying to turn Sochi into the South of France on the Black Sea, with skiing, glamorous shops, massive mansions, and a Grand Prix
Paul Ricard, yes. Sochi sucked until the rain came, Abu Dabi sucked until the safety car came, Spain sucked period, Monaco can't have a good race with F1 cars no matter how hard you try, Singapore and shanghai weren't even there
For Barcelona, you also need to change Turn 1. Its suppose to be a heavy braking zone à la Monza, but its still a fast corner. Or you can change turn 3 to make it a very sharp hairpin so that the dirty air problem associated with turn 3 isnt as egregious.
They could make the final corner at Shanghai a little rounder because it's a hard-to-judge corner and they could go faster which gives a better change of overtaking into turn 1.
Nice video as always, Tommo! My number 1 change to Monaco would be....race at Macau (it is a joke, but for me it is the best street track in the world :D Please remove the chicane on the long straight at Paul Ricard. GTWC does it for the endurance race and it is so much better. Same with Barcelona and Abu Dhabi like you said it: the track is already there. I cant understand, why they are still keeping the "boring versions" :/ My idea for a new video: Tracks, you want back. Maybe sorted by decades when they last raced on them like you did with your livery designs (maybe 2 videos). My favorites would be India and Kyalami :) But do whatever you want! I am looking forward to your future content :D All the best for you from Germany :)
France and russia produced exciting races this season thankfully. Let's see if UAE joins the party too with the new layout and moreover it may be the title-deciding race of this season.
My understanding about that chicane early on in Yas Marina is that it exists for spectator safety. Without that chicane the speeds are too high with no runoff between the corner and the grandstands. Ditching it would absolutely improve the circuit though.
3:45 I would remove the chicane in the middle of the straight and add the hard braking zone at the end of the straight. I like the decreasing radius corner that you killed.
Tommo you should not apologize, You are doing great job Great vids, it takes time! Well its good you will take more time for all the comets, Keep up the Great work you are doing! PS Great to hear you against Jimmer when you was playing Trackmania!
For those tracks that already have the changes in the form of slip roads, I wonder if an e-sports simulation can be held to see if these changes make things more interesting!
Thanks for taking the time to Really think about Monaco. I hate racing it in games but like you, what could ya change? But that little roundabout could make things happen. Well thought Tommo.
Problem with altering Yas Marina is all the buildings. Can't change many parts of it because it's routing around a building. For removing that chicane into the hairpin, that works except now you have a big braking zone with no run-off (a big building & grandstand is right there). You can however also move that hairpin up 20 meters (closer to where the chicane currently is) with a curved exit onto the long straight. YM also has a bunch of off-camber turns, if the track was re-profiled so that these turns banked in instead of banking out, following would be a lot easier.
Honestly, most of these redesigns aren't great. Starting with France, the issue there is really dirty air before the Mistral Straight. That problem should be sorted with the 2022 cars though, as the dirty air will be greatly reduced. Beausset has been ruined as well, being a brilliant fast corner where cars can go side-by-side if they get out of signes together. The final sector definitely has potential, but that chicane looks very awkward, and would just let gaps increase onto the pit straight. Sochi would not really work for the T7-T9 section, as the dirty air through 7 will kill any passing opportunity into 8. Turn 8 is also a nice corner, and the flow there is ruined. Bypassing the 15-16 chicane is a big improvement, and the last two corners are improved, although the space taken up might mean that it is impossible. The pit entry could be improved with this last corner, with potentially an 80kph speed limit, which decreases the pit delta. Abu Dhabi's chicane before the hairpin has to exist, for safety. If the drivers did just skip it, the FIA would DQ them, or just not sanction the event. The new section at the harbour could work, but the issue there would be runoff, as the facilities there would restrict what could be done. Spain's big issue is dirty air, so bypassing the chicane is a big no. There is a reason that F1 stopped using the chicane. The dirty air through the final corner would be a lot worse without the chicane, so passing would be a lot harder, as the following car can't carry enough speed to be close down the straight. The tighter new turn in S2 would give a passing place, but looks too tight to race well. Monaco's change is one that I do like, and it could work well. Moving nouvelle back could help as well, if a new area is built just like the existing chicane. Singapore's arena section (T16-19) will be torn down in a year or two iirc, so there could be a straight between the current T16 and 19. The final corner would require a lot of building work, especially as it requires a lot more runoff than the current corner. China's redesign could work very well, but the racing there can be very good already, so it doesn't really need to change.
I remember hearing that the reason they had to add that horrible chicane in Abu Dhabi is that they didn't have enough runoff compared to the amount of speed they would carry into that corner or something.
2:16 My suggestion it is that Formula One should race at the streets of Paris and MotoGP making its debut at Circuit de Paul Ricard for the French Grand Prix
@@CIinbox How would you fix it? Imo, the track flow is brilliant. The only change I would make is to go straight on at the small right kink before Rivazza and then make Rivazza a tight hairpin and then have it open up like Parabolica (@Monza). However, this would reduce the chance of an overtake at Variante Bassa, although we could create a "new" Variante Bassa by switching the side of the pit boxes and reversing the direction of the chicane, also removing the small right kink that proceeds Variante Bassa. I thought of placing it after the start line, but there is a restaurant there and Italian's love their food, so I wouldn't want to remove it. Saying that though, I would absolutely YEET the ice skating arena at Sochi, cos, who really actually cares about ice skating.
Yes it is exciting. But at the hint of an overtaking move some drivers just take the escape route or we have racing incidents (Stroll-Norris). Its really difficult to go side by side at that speed and angle. Maybe widening the corner like turn one in Portugal?
It seems to me like the only way they could "Fix" Monaco is by making the event a staggered start time trial. If nobody can overtake, eliminate position as the winning factor. If an overtake happens, all it does is gain time.
Hi tommo im a Singaporean here...just wanna add that the grandstand at turn 18-21 (part that u want it to be removed to make long straight to the last corner) is going to be demolished soon to construct a venue called NS Square which will be done at around 2025 so the circuit layout is up in the air for the future. As for that youth olympic park theres a highway and a big bridge that starts from the road beside it so it cant just be demolished and make the track go through there. Cheers :)
Monaco is the only track that would work in reverse. People say you can't run in reverse because there is no run off, but in Monaco there is no run off either way
Damit, you put two of my favourites. Singapore and Sochi. I would like to see the Singapore sling back tho and the removal of that off camber chicane at Sochi, but they’re very satisfying tracks to drive.(at least on the f1 game) Also the original intention was to not have that chicane at Yas Marina but the stand behind it meant that they couldn’t get the runoff needed.
@@TommoMcCluskey i hate to watch Sochi gp, but on an F1 game it is really good to drive on. On the other hand, I absolutly hate do drive in China and (of course) Spain and 3rd sector in France
The final sector at Spain used to be like that. It meant that cars were front aero limited coming on to the pit straight and couldn’t really follow. You did correctly assess the main issue with the track though, the teams test there. They have the data so optimized that it’s basically a procession.
@@eggselent9814 What do you want to expect on a track that looks more like a maze than a "race" track. No wonder why ppl describe it as; "just a bigger version of a Formula E track."
Good video idea: Tommo’s perfect 23 race calendar. So you replace the boring tracks to what you think should be on the calendar (mugello,kyalami etc) to make up the perfect track season.
Tommo, can't _believe_ you didn't fix Sochi turn one two complex You didn't remove the chicane in the Paul Richard straight You added MORE chicanes to Sochi and Paul Richard. You didn't fix turn one two in Barcelona
you did well with these but i would suggest obviously you weren't accounting for barriers but at the nouvelle chicane pushing the first barrier on the left back a tiny bit or round it off and the same with the other barrier at the end of the corner on the left
Great video, but tbh I don't think that the reason for boring races at Paul Ricard an Shanghai is due to lack of overtaking spots. It's probably because it is too easy to overtake on those circuits and the huge runoff areas.