@@Kenny-nq6lq No one needs to see it. If you downvote a video, it gets less recommendation and the uploader sees that people don't like his content. :) You can also unsubscribe.
@@sentient1640 Huge cap, the dislike ratio used to keep people safe from scams on RU-vid. They removed it because RU-vid Rewind got ratiod on its own platform. Also corporations like Rockstar Games where receiving huge amounts of dislikes for pushing GTA5 online for 11 years with no GTA6 announcement.
PSA: I had a pixel 3a xl at one point in time. The "Carrier unlocked" and "OEM unlocked" variants of this device are identical in terms of hardware. I even flashed over to the OEM firmware using the script from Google perfectly, and everything works as well. As long as you can get the bootloader to unlock and flash it. I figured this might help some people, as I completely understand the pain with Carrier models and OEM models sometimes being different in terms of hardware. We are lucky that this is not one of those cases.
I was never unable to unlock the bootloader on a Verizon carrier model of the 3a. And I understood from forums that Verizon made it impossible to unlock the bootloader on their devices. Even though, yes, it is identical hardware, it seems Verizon put an irremovable software lock on the bootloader that will prevent UT from being able to run on them.
@@matthewpanhans This is true for all devices for Verizon. At this point in time, those in the modding community know not to buy from Verizon or cricket (in a lot of cases) for this very reason.
It's funny, my reasons for putting aside my linux phone I got as an experiment are the exact opposite reasons he put it aside. I LOVED the app availability, being able to essentially use ARM ports of any linux application actually had me using apps MORE on my phone than ever before as I could for once actually use tools I was more used to. It was the best pocket computer I ever used. It just sucked as a PHONE, the battery life was abysmal compared to android, there's modem bugs and it would silently miss calls all the time, the spearkerphone had a tiny delay that caused feedback and crackles on the other side, the audio quality was noticeably worse, and texting was awful, anything outside of base SMS wasn't guaranteed to work, RCS and MMS was just flat out broken and often corrupted/dropped messages. Seriously I would kill for a decent, cheap linux phone that just works as a fully-functional PHONE first. Carrying around a phone where texting and making calls didn't work right was just a showstopper for me.
So here's the thing, there's this operating system called Android that's based on Linux, ever heard of it? Though running full fat Linux apps on a smartphone sounds awesome lmao
@@me_fault about 8 months ago, of the distro's I tried the one that had best support for messaging was manjaro's plasma mobile version, it had the ONLY messenger that seemed to even understand MMS properly, but RCS still broke on it and it was weirdly laggy.
that's about as relevant as saying that the ps4 runs freeBSD, yeah it's true to a point but doesn't really help any. it's a highly restricted version that doesn't properly support full applications, the android kernel itself is HEAVILY modified from vanilla and has no standard userland. Many things you normally run on desktop trivially recompile for an ARM port that will run on linux mobile, you can even dock and use it as a desktop (works great with keyboard + mouse), I was even able to use it as a complete work laptop replacement for programming PLCs out in the field. (it's still great at that, i don't have my sim card in it anymore as it was a horrible phone though)
My impression is, they invented something really great back in the day, but hammering it to a stable release took such a long time, most of the GUI innovations got obsolite during the years. MeeGoo had the perfect GUI for mobile Debian based operating system, so much time to reinvent the wheel. We need to take this to the next level, fast.
Agreed, back in the day I daily drove Ubuntu Touch on a Nexus 7 tablet, and I was blown away by the gesture navigation, same as with SailfishOS. Nowadays Android and even iOS have caught up, and improved upon that stuff
MeeGo lives on as SailfishOS, and I have been using it as my daily driver for last 6 years. It is by far the best Linux mobile OS in my opinion, with a big disadvantage: it is not fully open source. Parts of the GUI are closed source, which is a bummer. Especially as it prevents them from updating to a newer QT version, because of its license change. The device support list is also quite small, but you can actually use it as your daily driver, which is awesome!
@@seanseago699: I don't think that the Ubuntu Edge was ever supposed to hit the market. It was designed to be an extreme phone to enable people to develop software for the future, so that by the time the software side was ready for daily driving, there would be mass produced Android phones available to put it on. What people have forgotten, is that OHA announced an anti-fragmentation policy. Since Ubuntu Touch was based on Android for the hardware support, OEMs would've had to choose between Ubuntu and Android, which is a competition that Ubuntu would lose. But you're obviously correct in saying that the extreme negativity and conspiracy theories about Ubuntu would make it difficult to get partners.
It seems Ubuntu Touch supports second screen, mouse and keyboars, I guess it will have been cool to see that in action. Anyways, great video! Long time ago I was seriously considering using Ubuntu Touch as daily driver but it didn't have great support, it's great to see there are devices much better supported coming up.
I'm going to get a phone and install Ubuntu Touch on it. I probably won't even get a sim card for it, but I just want to use it and do a video on it for my RU-vid channel. Honestly, the OS that seemed the most far along as an alternative to Android/iPhone are the Sailfish OS phones.
@@Fancy2209Real I forgot all about Lomiri until you mentioned it. Do you know about the Ubuntu Unity Remix? It started a couple years ago by a 12 year old boy, and is now an official Ubuntu flavor.
It's very interesting to see Brandon (perhaps unconsciously) trying to use screen gestures from other phones, or perhaps ones that seem logical, but do not exist on Ubuntu Touch. Apple and Google have spent a lot of time on the actual operation of a UI on a touch device and i think this is something that Ubuntu Touch hasn't exactly mastered. Flicking from the bottom of the screen is a good example - according to what application you have open, you get completely different results of which some are unexpected.
Swiping up from the bottom is app specific features, so it's no wonder that you get different behaviour in different apps. But just because you're used to swiping up to get to the home screen, doesn't mean it's more _logical_ than swiping from the left. It's a habit that you have.
Yep, wouldn't want to be like the other guy's...hopefully its customizable ,so that you can make it any way that suits your needs, so the learning-curve less painful.
@@mytouchable: When you switch to a new OS, whatever it may be, you should take the time to learn it. He's using it all wrong and hasn't understood the logic in the design, which is why he doesn't understand the benefit of it. It's actually really comfortable and makes a lot more sense than any other shell I've ever used on a phone.
Interesting video. I used to work on Ubuntu Touch before it was cancelled, and hadn't kept up with the state of the UBPorts fork. The most obvious change I could see is that the home screen launcher seems to have been ripped out completely. I can kind of understand that since a lot of the information it incorporated came from backend services that no longer exist. The replacement app drawer looks like it works pretty well for Ubuntu Touch as it exists now, but the vision was to do a lot more.
I was on a community design team working on the ux wireframe for the files app I absolutely loved the scopes and lenses ui and where it. Was going i even mocked up a version for the desktop which included tabs as if it were a modular search engine with web apps I think the new launch is slick but yea it could have been much more
Awesome video, glad to see UT getting some notice! Couple things of note as someone who daily drives the same phone. - Android apps can be installed and run just about like normal via the waydroid helper tool in open store and can allow android apps to be installed with or without google services attached based on how much you care about that kind of stuff. - The UT tweeker tool can allow the Desktop mode to activate and can allow window tiling in mobile or using wireless display casting can turn the phone into a fairly functional desktop (especially using a usb dock). - Libertine allows full on desktop software to be installed (via outdated repos I will admit) or via deb files (a little more reliable) and they honestly run quite well assuming you use the libertine tweak tool to fix some of the weirdness. - I have found installing Firefox ESR via a deb package allowed me to get my passwords all synced up and now when I used the device I alternate between Morph and Firefox for browsing the internet. - Not sure why, but I have had few if any problems with location services on pixel 3axl, but I mean who knows really (I am aware it varies a bit device to device).
I'm on my pixel 3a XL bonito running UT. Somehow when I installed UT my GPS works well. I'm really not sure what happened cus i used UT for a while and GPS didn't work. I installed calyoxos and used that for a while. I installed UT again and now GPS works. Also I like the dancing skeleton vid you made.
I would like to congratulate the team. They have come a long way with Ubuntu Touch and have managed to achieve an extraordinary feat. It still requires a lot of work though, but I believe that the number of users will slowly start increasing now 😊
Yeah I'm actually pretty interested on how it would look like if the UI is a bit more polished and more app support that's not just web apps. I really hope this OS succeeded so we can get 3 competitors
I remember when Google making phones was just a joke. Now, they've been creating phones for almost 6-7 years. God, how time flies before you notice it, and things change at a seemingly rapid pace.
Just an FYI: you can swipe from the top and then swipe from left to right to go to the different top menu items. So you can go from notifications to battery by simply keeping your finger in the bar that you swiped down on. Also, if you swipe down from the icon, you'll open that menu. So if you touch the battery icon and swipe down, you'll get the battery settings, clock opens the calendar and so on. Once you get used to it, it's much faster than having a huge menu filled with icons.
@@maximus6884 Varies from device to device. Usually UT is good with standby battery life and SOT is a bit behind from Android. Overall, it's fine but can be improved.
@@maximus6884 Like Anino mentioned, I'm sure it varies between devices. On my FP3+, the battery life is pretty on par with other smartphones I had before. That is, it lasts a full day with common use. There are apps and features that heavily drain the battery. Waydroid being the biggest one, not surprising, since it emulates an Android phone on top of your UT OS. Hotspot also drains the battery but it is the same as any other phone with that capability. But even though I use hotspot and Waydroid on a daily basis, I usually have around 20% of battery left at the end of the day. Overall, I'm pretty pleased with Ubuntu touch's battery life on my phone.
This is really encouraging. I like the idea of possibly switching my phone to Ubuntu at EOL for my Android OS so I can keep using it. Nice to see this project is still moving forward.
It will never be functional to a point of being a viable alternative for the general population, and those running the project know this. But it's been a great way to receive funding $$$ No 100% true open source Linux mobile OS will ever be allowed to reach fully successful development for the masses, because govt tracking/spyware code cannot be baked deep within the os. This isn't some "C/T" it's just a pure fact and reality.
Good video showcasing Ubuntu Touch :) I'm actually surprised how smooth UT looked in this video. I haven't tried UT on a Pixel 3a in a while and it looks good. I have a few corrections though or some things that maybe you were not aware. - I notice you always swipe from left and tap the button to open the app drawer. You can actually just swipe continuously AKA long swipe from the left to open it. - Switching theme doesn't require a reboot. Not sure where you got that since the app doesn't tell you that :) You have to restart most apps though. There are also quicker way to switch theme in the store if you like switching between them. - Short right edge swipe will switch between 2 apps so like Alt + Tab. This is one of my favorite because switching between apps is a breeze and so simple. - You can also swipe from the bottom of the keyboard to access some features like copy/paste so you don't have to press and hold text fields for the wonky popups. - Sadly, AGPS isn't available on UT so GPS needs an open sky to get its initial fix. It will work fine after that though. It has AGPS in the Canonical days but it was removed I believe due to licensing. - You can swipe down the top panel or indicators without releasing and swipe horizontally to select between the items. But I do agree that they're too many. I like the design of it but I also wish some can be combined.
@@SoundblasterYT It is based on Wifi and mobile cell data. Maybe you did notice that your GPS was turned off, but an App still knew your location on adroid. That is because the app read out the available wifi routers and similar and compared it with the database from google. The google streetview cares aren't only making pictures, they are also scanning the environment for wifi. A bit scary, google still knows your location, even when using an non-google app. But there are Alternatives like MLS - Mozilla location service. It is based on scans, done by the services users. Ubuntutouch were to use this in cannonical times, but as I understood the programm wasn't easy to maintain (?)
I loved most of it and an idea of having another option as an operating system but it looks good for 2013-14 most of it gave me my highschool vibe which is not bad I would use it for nostalgic reasons but it really needs to catch up with graphics and system interface. There were not any specific features that would make me excited about it and go for the switch. But I really wish the funding took off even donated at that time will do it again if the company is willing to come out with something solid. Loved your video tho!! Keep up ❤️
something that doesn't get a lot of highlight: project halium, and therefore ubports which is based on top of it, CAN run on ANY treble-compatible phone, as a normal GSI image, if you patch the kernel a little (or grab a pre-patched kernel), running as a GSI means the android drivers would take care of the hardware, with a unified interface, so you DON'T need to bake up a custom image for EVERY single device granted, not everything might work...but there's a good chance a lot of stuff will!
Wow, the Linux user bases are really passionate, considering how Ubuntu is now coming to phones. I wonder how many other distributions are going mobile.
Linux probably would be a major operating system if everybody just worked together. There's so many different flavors and communities working on their own.
Linux on mobile is still miles behind traditional android. Well i hope they integrate native android support or no one gonna use Linux alternatives on mobile.
Ubuntu touch is a weird mashup of android and ubuntu, hence why the compatibility is so good. SailfishOS is sort of better in terms of gestures and looks, but both are pretty horrible to actually use honestly, nothings beats an android custom rom Mobian or PostmarketOS are much more interesting since they are real linux and linux only, you should try them on a Pocofone F1 Strangly enough the best strange OS for a phone that i tried is Windows 11 arm, it's surprisingly usable for my poco X3 pro
You can't use pure Linux on powerful phones without coming up with a billion dollars or more in initial investment. That is the fundamental problem. I have a Pinephone and a Galaxy s8. I would love to have a Galaxy class Pinephone, but that simply is not possible. The Ubuntu Core-based approach is much better, because then you can have a company support a BSP with proprietary drivers, having signed an NDA, and then you can have open source distros on top of that. But unfortunately, that would be attacked by the Linux user community, who would rather have perfect dreams than good products, effectively preventing progress.
@@jeschinstad I installed a Pinephone Pro on FOSDEM, and its already so much better than old Pinephone, with a bit more polish I guess we have a working daily driver Linux phone at the end of the year.
For this exact reason I got myself a cheap pre owned Pixel 3a. Although I wasnt brave enough to switch to Ubuntu Touch because of missing WhatsApp 🙏 Got mine for 45€.
Apps will always be a problem especially since our society is so integrated to them. Waydroid works on Pixel 3a but compatibility apps isn't a sure thing especially for secured apps like banking apps. Also, it kinda drain the battery faster.
@@PakoSt It works on some devices and may work quite well. Of course it depends on the app. And it also currently lacks proper integration so it's like a VM and drains the battery more than usual.
Just the user interface is so unusual I'd probably never get used to this. In comparison with this, Iphones and Android phones have pretty much the same interface. 😅
The kernel is based on Linux. The OS is nor. Sure it uses elf, sure it has init. It mounts and swirches root to the system partition. But it uses a completely different display system, the os is based on dalvik VM, uses NDK instead of libc, so on.
A few things I'm concerned about with a Linux phone: System-level integration of password managers for autofill System-level dark theme preference System-level VPN integration System-level integration of cloud accounts And importantly, general app availability
Unlocking Google Pixels bootloader is the EASIEST phone to unlock. You do not need a code or a magic number. All you do is enable OEM Unlocking in developer options, then ADB reboot fastboot, then fastboot flashing unlock. It will confirm on device (because it will erase user data when it's finished the bootloader unlocking) that is all. You could do this day one
Honestly stock android has improved so much recently that I don't see the need for a Linux smartphone like this, unless it could run android apps it would be useless to the average user
I've used Ubports. Its a great OS, but the main drawback is the lack of software developers writing applications. I wish there were more 3rd party applications available.
That will to great extent be solved by the support for Flutter. Any app that doesn't require system integration, will just run on Linux. And that is a lot of apps.
My 13 year old son is an absolute Linux guy and he's incredible at coding. He doesn't really like his iPhone 8 too much but would like to have a Ubuntu phone. Maybe I can make his wish become true by getting that Pixel phone (though it would be great if Ubuntu Touch ran on the Galaxy Note 4 with the SPen).
Can we just get one thing straight: Android is a Linux operating system, and thus phones that run Android are, by extension, Linux phones. I think for videos and articles like this, it's important to refer to GNU/Linux phones, like those running Ubuntu Touch. Yes, all of us here probably already know what you mean, but the more people keep referring to non-Android Linux phones as just "Linux Phones", the more average people will think that Android phones don't run Linux. Sorry to be pedantic!
The Unity Design team was a very productive and cool community to be a part of. Nothing was too small. I still believe that the Unity 7 desktop is the best that has ever been made, even though others are catching up.
I think the problem with Linux phones (despite how I'd love them to become popular) is the lack of clear vision how apps should be created (or ported to it from mainstream platforms). If UBports bet on web apps - totally fine, they are lighter, take less bandwidth to load, support offline mode (aka PWAs), etc. BUT it's not claimed by anyone that this is the designed model for developers to go. No app platform -> no devs -> no apps -> death. Take the Windows Mobile for example - it is still beautiful even today, but it was killed by wrong strategy.
@@drownthepoor I agree- these things are important, but if there’s no TOP-10 apps available and no active development being done - how would you convince non-linux enthusiast to ditch android in favor of Linux phone
@@drownthepoor Those things have been working fairly well in UT. I've been using UT as my main phone since 2015 :) Bought an Android phone as secondary a few years ago and sadly it meant my reliance to apps and such has increased.
@@lisovyy You're not going to convince any non-Linux enthusiasts to ditch Android for Linux. It's not going to happen. Even if it had every app available to them why would they want to leave behind Android? The one argument you might make is privacy, and they don't even care about that. Not to mention all of those top 10 apps are anti-privacy.
I absolutely want to switch to a Linux phone, full-time. Unfortuantely, accessibility just doesn't exist in these; Neither Sailfish, Ubuntu Touch, Manjaro or PureOS have accessibility available. I need screen magnification and color inversion to work due to my impairment. But other than that? I am throughly impressed! True convergence is also slowly being implemented, which is amazing :D
That is an inherent weakness with bazaar-style development, that minorities are minorities. It's easier to get me to work for free on something that affects me directly. So for really good accessibility, you absolutely depend on serious funding, which is difficult to get when you don't have all that many users. But to be honest, we do have a problem with those who need it as well. Summers of 2010 and 2011, I spent a lot o my time volunteering for this for Ubuntu, but I had problems getting people to help me research issues. Because the minority that needs these features, see us as a minority that they don't care about. And that's fair, because they're not computer geeks. So the lack of accessibility, is not because we aren't supportive or don't want to help, but because it simply is difficult. But this is a problem that could be solved with money and money can be raised by anyone. It should primarily be raised by those who need the stuff they're raising money for, in my opinion.
When you're looking for pixel smartphones online make sure that it isn't from verizon because most pixel phones from them doesn't allow bootloader unlocking
I feel like the time of Linux phones is yet to come and Apple will be the one that started it all. Once we start getting Qualcomm chips in laptops to fight Apple's M series of chips, we'll start to see more and more Linux distros move towards ARM. Which will then be just one step away from putting Linux on a mobile phone. The time is yet to come.
I wish there is Linux os for low end mobile phone units like Cat B52. Phones like that one can access internet and their battery time is enormous and their hardware is indestructible.
Does being OEM unlocked mean coming with a pre-unlocked bootloader ? Cause I was able to do that easily with a refurb mi A2 I bought, like didn't even require Xiaomi's official unlocking tool just standard android platform tools like adb and fastboot probably cause it was part of the android one programme. Since carrier locking is not a thing in India that isn't a concern either.
That drop in connection is an issue. If that can be fixed, then I could use this as a daily driver. Currently, that seems to be an issue. But just to confirm, is there just a drop in the quality of the connection, or does it lose connection altogether? Also, how is the android app support?
drops to 2g for about 20-30 seconds then it goes back to full speed LTE. I noticed it happens a lot when calls come in. I don't think it can handle calls and data at the same time. I really hope with is fixed in the next major release.
As another comment stated, you could just use this as a phone and a hotspot with your tablet and you get the best of both worlds without the creepy apps tracking everything you do 24/7.
This actually blew me away, i always had a weird relation with ubuntu, my few interactions with it were back in 12.10 and recently on my job and it lags af, and i was always trying to make my boomer superior's mind to install at least Lubuntu cuz it really lagged, although i'm sure the PCs are to blame, my company literally puts windows 10 on 13yo pentium machines So even tho i have been fancying mobile linux for a while AND i do have a linux QEMU VM set in a tablet here, which works great with kbd+touch, i never expected Ubuntu Phone to be so cool! I guess i have some mind opening to do, congratulations
With USB-C id love to see a bulkier beefier phone I can use as a PC with a dock anywhere / anytime. I am just waiting for the day to get Linux on my phone.
I prefer the normal pixel 3. I got one in 2022 for 90 dollars, mint condition, fully unlocked, and loved it. The 3 is just in general better than the 3a
When a phone releases with native Ubuntu or and that phone can reliably; - make phone calls, send texts, run a browser and other basic functions including HD camera and video recording - I will buy one immediately. I would prefer it to have a removable battery and cost less than £300 with a focus on performance and reliability, then security and then build quality. They have always focused ENTIRELY on security / privacy in the past causing them to forget about the phone being fast, feeling good and smooth etc, which is a huge deal breaker for anybody wanting to daily drive it. Personally I can't wait but I don't want to have to use 2 phones just to experience a slow and unreliable lagfest because Linux". I love Linux but I'm not stupid either. I know this is a long comment but I really want Linux to succeed and be adopted by the mainstream and it hurts my brain when they come out with idiotic things that have backwards priorities and if 1 person from any Linux distro design team reads this and it helps then I am happy.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Android a form of Linux? Or based from Linux? I understand that the googler overlords have their hands all in it though. I have a few questions/concerns regarding this particular O.S. ... 1- One thing I think I saw briefly was that the home screen rotated to the proper horizontal, widescreen position while you were moving the phone around. Is it functional in the widescreen position? How about the menus/settings/ messages etc etc screens? Do they operate in a proper widescreen orientation as well? I totally hate it when apps or certain screens are stuck in that horrid, awful, ridiculous "thinscreen" vertical position and refuse to rotate even though rotate is turned on. ...pisses me off. My eyes and peripheral vision are horizontally oriented. tallscreen/thinscreen never made one ounce of sense to me. So having the ability to use the screen properly when using a cellphone is a HUGE plus for me. 2- The large red area in the homescreen: Can there be desktop shortcuts, apps and widgets put there? Like most importantly, a clock display. Maybe a few of the most used apps. Browser. Media player. etc. Seems pointless to just have that much screen real-estate sitting empty and useless. Sure, it looks clean, and I like clean. But I would also like to have at least a prominent clock/date display there. Maybe even the ability to flick left/right for more "pages" of shortcuts. 3- Also regarding the homescreen: Is the toolbar able to be moved to the bottom (regardless of screen orientation) and possibly made smaller? Like you can do on a PC running Mint, Ubuntu or that royal "pane" in the privacy, Windows. etc. 4- Browser: Firefox. Done. There is no other option. Can it run Firefox? One would think so since Linux comes with Firefox as its default browser. (and has the neat setup to keep it updated automatically when the OS is updated) Yeah the FF app for android is kind of... crap, But it still runs adblock for those sites that violently shove 50 ads up your hiney to read 5 lines of their content. Like seriously, half of your data plan is used up loading stinkin' ads! Not for me, Jack! 5: This is a real big concern: Is there ANY word on getting the location bug fixed? I NEEED my phone for accurate, reliable, turn-by-turn navigation. That alone is a total dealbreaker. The other stuff I could kind of deal with, but no nav? Nope! 6: How about for tablets? I have a tablet that is just begging to get some form of a Linux mobile OS put on it.. I know I asked a bunch. But whatever info regarding any of these concerns that you (or any other viewer) could enlighten me with would be greatly appreciated. I'll be keeping an eye on this one. THANKS! 😄
You need a screen protector immediately for that phone it will scratch very easily. The oled display though is the same as a pixel 7 pro as far as I can see in 1080p. Feels like the same speed etc. except for obvious features, face unlock, 50mp camera etc.
O gosh. You make me nostalgic. I joined that Ubuntu Edge! What a pity it failed. Canonical should reconsidering an Ubuntu phone. Now with Flutter support on Ubuntu, it's easy to write apps for Ubuntu. And with its adaptive capability, Flutter apps on Ubuntu can easily fullfil Canonical's dream of the convergence!
People looking to switch to a Linux phone would do so for security and flexibility, not user-experience, and I think Ubuntu would always be a no-go for that.
Location and navigation actually does work, but you have to be in direct sight of the satellites, that means you need to be outdoors. Google uses other means i.e. known routers and stuff to help with location services. Location does not work behind thick walls, just as google does not work inside a tunnel and such.
You can run Ubuntu Touch even if you do not have one of these promoted devices. ALL you need is a computer running Ubuntu, your device, an internet connection, and the Ubuntu Touch installer.
Is absurd that a good offer in the U.S. gives you 4 gb of internet for 15 dollars. Here in Italy you can have 200 gb for less than 10 euros unlimited sms and calls included.
