I've given up too much to stop now. 

and also he destroyed a whole universe just because he wanted to be there for his daughter

You know, to me, he went from a well-known and compassioned comic book superhero to a despicable, cruel and highly short-tempered sociopath that shows no sympathy nor mercy to his victims or even the people that an actual hero should save, not just everyone but also their loved ones and he's willing to brutally go after and probably kill him after "puss-in-boots death horror style" for an innocent, harmless 15 year old that does not have anything with any of this madness, he's just trying to be himself. Now that's a horrible interpretation of a beloved Spiderman and I don't care if he's doing all of this because of his late daughter, in contrast, this movie ruined Spiderman 2099! As for gwen on the other hand, I think she regretted betrayed Miles and that she trusted on the wrong people who hurted Miles both emotionally and physically, But she'll definitely be forgiven by him and that's why she set up a hole team to find him.

@@unlobosiemprecuidaasulobaAUUUUaccidentally

@@Thiago_Animation_Yt_2003 *very long character essay lol* I really think you’re missing a lot of the subtle details they added in for his character, you’re completely missing the depth. I’d would watch the movie again, and look closer. It’s like you didn’t pay attention. First, he definitely is a depressed, sarcastic asshole in the comics. That’s like his whole thing. Second, in the movie, he is very well characterized. You can tell that the writers really did their research for him, and put a lot of care and effort into his character. He has lots of moments where he isn’t just being a paranoid asshole. His introduction, the scene where he’s explaining the canon to Miles, when he’s arguing with Peter and Hobie, the multiple characters that look up to him as a mentor and possible father type figure, that he’s unintentionally funny and just as nerdy as the other Spider people. He tears up at Miles saying he can’t let his dad die, he’s on the verge of a panic attack scared about another dimension collapsing when attacking Miles on the train, everything he says to Miles is what he thinks about himself. You can literally see it in his face when he says it. He literally says, “I have been the only thing holding it all together, me!” Miguel has put the job of saving everyone in the entire multiverse on himself, which is literally an impossible job, an impossible thing for anyone to be able do. He’s literally overextending, overworking himself to death for an impossible task that he put on himself as a punishment. Projecting his self hatred, fear, and guilt onto Miles and the others. He’s afraid of letting more people die like he did with the other dimension that collapsed, that was his fault. He’s afraid of people dying and him being at fault again, of being wrong, of the Spider Society knowing he is wrong, of the possibility of not knowing if is so the canon has to be right. In his head, if he lets Miles “break canon” billions of people will die and an entire world destroyed. And it’ll be his fault again. It’s the only thing that he can cling onto after losing so much, after being the person he was before, after losing so many people and going through so much (in the comics and movie). He’s scared and terrified, and the way he’s coping with it isn’t healthy, which is something we’ve seen from comic Miguel before. He thinks what he is doing is right, but he just punishing himself and those around him for his self hatred and trauma in an attempt to keep as many people alive as possible to make up for what he did. And yes, he’s unfairly projecting it onto Miles, so he has not only become a danger to himself but to others around him. They did Miguel perfect and I can’t wait to see them have him confront his issues and being wrong in the next movie. I love Miguel’s character, I’ve loved Spiderman 2099 even since I was little and I really do think the movie did good with him

@@ghostlyexe All right man. I get both your point and opinion, I'll respect it.😉

I guarantee we'll see more of it next movie

@@viper8278 that’s what I was kinda intending to say just turned out me saying he was overlooked lmao

@@Clipz243 oh ok my bad

@@viper8278 nah you good

i thought i wrote that cuz of the pfp

Sympathetic antagonist done right

You dont know that Miguel isnt wrong.

Sunk cost fallacy.

I would admit it. One person or entire universe, [including this one person]? Its pure math.

He IS wrong though, if his theory of canon events is true (based off of one single event he had) why is universe 42 in tact or 616-b or even 1610? Miles wasnt supposed to be spider-man; peter wasnt supposed to die and peter B. parker wasnt supposed to have a kid. So every canon regarding their universes are broken. How are they still there? Simple answer is Miguel is wrong, and it is simply all Spots fault. Even before he became the spot it was all his fault.

what i like most about this character is that he is committed. the viewer is let to believe that he would stop at nothing to protect the balance of the multiverse and he'd kill miles to avoid any more anomalies

@@alexsp4853 yup

​@@alexsp4853he Def won't kill miles but he would Def incapacitate him with his venom bite. He knows a universe without spiderman will turn pure chaos

Thing is, if he was the main character of this movie, you'd say he was right and Miles was shocking wrong....and that just shows how well done the writing is, because you want them BOTH to be in the right.

@@bridgerhibbert2993 yea i hope miguel was correct but miguel sacrifices himself to stop whatever is causing this canon events

Finally someone who matches my opinion of him... Thats the kinda cute thing of its personality.... for me, he is a fusion of Asgore and Toriel from Undertale... Toriel didnt want to take the risk of letting another child die, and for Asgore's side, he was doing only the right thing for the whole underground people, to set them free, nothing more.... And Miguel escence its a fusion of both, hes only doing the greater good, just like Asgore did thought he was doing, and also its as scared as Toriel of losing more unuverses and killing thousands of innocents in the process, just like Toriel with Frisk by not letting them go at first...

I mean, a lot can happen in a year! We saw how Miguel was very charismatic and fun with Lyla in ITSV, but I’m pretty sure what he went through throughout the year was pretty recent, so it hurts even more, especially with where Miles is coming from.

@@victorcapote7376 I mean in Into the Spiderverse we see him having a prototype of the dimension travelling It's unlikely but maybe between Into and Across, he lost his daughter and experienced all that made him like this or perhaps it was just a mistake on the creators part, it's possible they hadn't planned for Miguel to be the villain and changed him between films

@@Cami_22099 bruh did you wathc the movie it literally explained how miguel broke the canon by popping in a verse where miguel dies and he then lives with his family which die off because he breaks the canon

@@Pinakiprime910 I know, I watched the film, I’m not denying that I’m just saying that at the end credits scene in Into the spider verse, Miguel looks a lot different to what he does here So maybe the creators decided to change him between the films or something

I thought it was Jason Todd telling that to Barbara from when he kidnapped her.

@@jaybirded3101 it's was two dialogues Jason and scarecrow

it was the arkham knight/jason todd telling barbara about batman after he captured her

@@DutDominates123 no it's only Jason

​@@DutDominates123No is not, it's only Arkham knight

Not really. Since his real goal is saving as many people as possible. He'll only Not save you if he can save even more lives by not doing so. In any other situation he priorities saving lives over completing his mission.

@@PhenomLight reminds me of the trolley problem

​@@kezottleThat's literally the movie in a nutshell. And I don't blame Miguel for being cautious when it comes to dealing with canon event.

No it’s not

@@PhenomLightyeah idk it seems everyone is missing the point of his character and making him out to be some villain anti hero dark gritty being of some sort

"Spidermen have layers"

@@saint-cardboard r u saying they dont?

@@saint-cardboard don't forget the hyphen between spider and men

Ah, this explains why he has so many simps. He's just like Shrek.

​@@VaporCl0ud_it was a reference to Shrek my g

Personally I think that this “dark” side of him is also part of his charm.

@@theaverageplayer1656 I agree! It makes him more interesting and it's a nice contrast from the other spider-people.

never was much of a spidey fan but seeing him and how he’s similar to batman def made him my fav. the focus, dedication, darkness, trauma, and the burden he has put on himself to be responsible of multiple universes is very much that atonement and punishment batman has on himself. miguel is an outlier with other spideys

I thought I was the only one who saw this lol, like no hate to Gwen but it really was her who kicked off the domino effect.

Yea, like in the comics, his humour is more subtle and cynical than the usual spiderman. Of course, it is toned down in atsv since he is broken

​@@Skalesthegoatyea that's true cus he is a bit younger in the comics and has lost less but in the next movie he might come around and be a bit more jokey at the end of the movie, cus he can finally relax yk

Crap quality that’s why, should’ve waited for HD clips to come out

I’m sure Miguel and Miles will come to an understanding. They’re both anomalies after all.

@@ma.2089miguel isn’t an anomaly bro. he was made into spider-man from his universe. there was no outside influence. miles is an anomaly, he was bit by a spider not from his universe. it’s that simple

@@2099vtaperSpider didn’t bite him like every other spiderman, so that, in itself, is an anomaly

@@samsonoke1765 People don't have to be bit by a spider to be part of canon. For example Ben Reily is a clone but hes still considered a canon spider. Miguel isn't an anomaly, and I have no idea where you got that conclusion from.

@@sleepdeprived7879 Since we are speaking English then I don’t have to define what the word “Anomaly” is. A clone is also an anomaly. The process of Miguel becoming Spiderman was just as ‘artificially’ influenced as Miles’ process was

Here's the thing tho, even if Miguel's theory is complete baloney, there's no way I am trusting a 15 year old who can't juggle between school and heroing and ends up failing in both over someone who has gone through universe destruction and has some sort of 'knowledge' about the multiverse.

He's doing just that, but there's probably more to the story than he knows, so they'll probably find another way since while to Miguel the universe of Indian spiderman was getting destroyed bc of the canon change we saw the hole originating from the spot, and Gwen's father just resigned from chief without consequences, so there has to be another factor other than canon events behind Miguel's universe's destruction.

​@@albyt3403gwen's dad dying was never a canon event to begin with, keep in mind that not everyone has the same set of canon events

@@idkidk503Gwen’s canon event was peters death

​@@Stranded2023yep.

What miguel did is he save his daughter from different universe, thats why that universe broken Gwen save her father in her own universe,and its just fine, i know we still dont know is that gwen's father death is canon event or not, but as far as we know for now, she save her own universe and her father And there is a possibility miles can save his dad in his own universe This is something that miguel doesnt try, i hate a cunt that weak and fear to try something If i in miles possition, i could save my father with any cost

Yeah it's almost like it was intentional!

​@MrRANDUM145 almost as if he just wanted to mention it 😱😱😱

@@Jelzly the sun is bright 🤯🤯🤯

@@MrRANDUM145then go outside!!! ☀️🌲 🌳 🚪 🚶‍♂️

Coulda swore I heard “Batman” thought I was tripping

It is from Batman Arkham Knight

Also this a bomb edit

why dont you think hes right?

@@rildian5034There are too many holes in his cannon event theory

@@Beeschurger_ really? Can u tell me?

​@@Beeschurger_ but would you risk it for a theory? He experienced it first hand and other spiders can vouch for him like what he said to gwen "do you wanna find out?"

It’s cult classic made by cash carti