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I've Never Been This Angry Watching a Japanese Documentary. 

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Children are getting cosmetic surgery in Japan... and I'm pissed off.
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@ddumbbee
@ddumbbee 6 месяцев назад
Rucchi said that she’s “never seen a girl with monolids that was pretty”. she basically admitted to thinking that her daughter was ugly before the surgery. Imagine hearing your mother say something like that…
@Hopischwopi
@Hopischwopi 6 месяцев назад
And probably the thought of "Oh, what else does she not like about me? What else should be changed?"
@oszaszi
@oszaszi 6 месяцев назад
I dont have to imagine, my mom used to say to me to not laugh/smile with my teeth showing cause its ugly, but she did not want to pay for braces. In my home country when you are young the price is much lower than when you are an adult, so I needed to save up a lot to be able to afford it for myself. When I finally got a good job I did invisalign for myself, and my teeth is fixed, but it fixed nothing on the trauma. Its a feeling you dont forget and will always feel it even after the issue is fixed. Even today, I always check on my teeth and spend huge amount of money to upkeep it and still smile with closed mouth on pictures just to be sure. That little girl will remember. I can tell you that.
@tachibanariine
@tachibanariine 6 месяцев назад
Hey at least the mom knows what she disliked in her kid. My mom says she hated seeing my face and she dont even know why.
@Hopischwopi
@Hopischwopi 6 месяцев назад
@@tachibanariine I think both are horrible but the unknown is something humans feel automatically uneasy about. I hope you know that that seems to be a her problem not a you or your face problem! Take care, I wish you alll the best
@dendrien
@dendrien 6 месяцев назад
your mother shoudve not bin a parent in the first place. where was your father in all of this?@@tachibanariine
@astrowolvez
@astrowolvez 6 месяцев назад
You just know her mother ingrained “beauty is pain” into her, there is no way a child would ever naturally say that.
@JustAnotherCadet
@JustAnotherCadet 6 месяцев назад
Reminds me of the song Prom Queen. Just so sad..
@DavidCruickshank
@DavidCruickshank 6 месяцев назад
@@JustAnotherCadet Also 'Mrs potato head" by melanie martinez. Very sad indeed
@DomiBorealis
@DomiBorealis 6 месяцев назад
I can relate. My mother said that a lot to me as a child, to try to convince me into feminine beauty standards. I'm glad I no longer believe that.
@anastasiaklyuch2746
@anastasiaklyuch2746 6 месяцев назад
yeah, my mom used to torture me with diets and excercise because I was chubby. I was litterally starving and in pain from 4 hr/day workouts. Since then I just gave up on my weight and how I look, and frankly, I feel better, and my weight dynamic is no different. I will just never put myself through that.
@sophiacalon3463
@sophiacalon3463 5 месяцев назад
I’m surprised, I thought it was about corsets in Europe!
@DarthTella
@DarthTella 6 месяцев назад
Just the fact that there are surgeons that are okay with doing unnecessary cosmetic surgery to kids is messed up
@qwmx
@qwmx 6 месяцев назад
They need to lose their licence.
@IppoX90
@IppoX90 6 месяцев назад
@@qwmx You both are barking the wrong tree there, buddies. They're just doing their job, that's all and it's the mother's responsibility who put her up there. You sound like you would blame the gun shop clerk, because the guy who robbed you used the gun that he happened to buy from there for this indented use.
@thestablepirate
@thestablepirate 6 месяцев назад
@@IppoX90 So you mean that the mother is the guy who robs the shop clerk aka the doctor? Well, your comparison is lacking, because the doctor will not face any repercussions if he denies the mother :) He has the right to do so and also the moral obligation to do so.
@augustuslunasol10thapostle
@augustuslunasol10thapostle 6 месяцев назад
@@thestablepirate doctors have a ethical obligation and in most of the world a legal obligation to follow ethical standards
@dotesnstuff6332
@dotesnstuff6332 6 месяцев назад
same with american doctors castrating children to conform to gender delusions
@TaraCorbin
@TaraCorbin 6 месяцев назад
When I was a kid I had a somewhat large mole on my nose that I got bullied for a lot. My parents took me to get it surgically removed when I was 11, and the kids didn’t even notice it was gone until I pointed it out and they just went on to tease about the next thing. I know it’s not the same extreme as double eyelid surgery, but it’s just an example of how this sort of thing is not the solution. Especially for kids.
@Marskilius
@Marskilius 6 месяцев назад
This! Doesn't matter how much a person "fixes" themselves, bullies will bully you about anything and everything. It's not your flaws, it's their rotten personality and insecurity.
@anonview
@anonview 6 месяцев назад
Bullies will not stop their bullying until they realize that they're jealous of other people, or they get into so much trouble that they get bullied for it in turn.
@Taladar2003
@Taladar2003 6 месяцев назад
There certainly are some injuries and illnesses that can be disfiguring enough that plastic surgery for a child is warranted but in that case it should be required to have a mental health expert certify that you are suffering from that so much that it is necessary to do something surgically about it.
@redflame300
@redflame300 6 месяцев назад
@@Marskilius its both tbh. if you look better than someone or worse in combination with their own internal/external issues.
@AzraelExcelcis
@AzraelExcelcis 6 месяцев назад
The mom is forcing her physical insecurities on her children.. it's messed up.
@hitbycars
@hitbycars 6 месяцев назад
Notice how she was the who one answers most of the questions for her daughter
@Adraeth
@Adraeth 6 месяцев назад
The worst part is seeing how a lot of parts of the world has those problems but they're showing differently. In the US for example, you have minors' beauty pageants. A lot of mom of those little girls are being just as abusive pushing their insecurities and expectations on them. In Japan it's literally saying to their kids they're ugly and need cosmetic surgeries. In another part of the world it's gonna be something else... So many parents just completely suck.
@LotoTheHero
@LotoTheHero 6 месяцев назад
Exactly this.
@ShadowOfMassDestruction
@ShadowOfMassDestruction 6 месяцев назад
​@@hitbycarsThe old generation failing the upcoming generation.
@hlo702
@hlo702 6 месяцев назад
Just using her daughter to ‘fix’ her own insecurities
@komi-sanmustbeprotected5665
@komi-sanmustbeprotected5665 6 месяцев назад
You have to be 18 regardless of parental consent to get a tattoo in the UK, yet in Japan while Tattoos are extremely taboo, it's perfectly fine to subject children under 10 to unnecessary and invasive surgery? In the UK that would be child abuse and the surgeon who did it would never work again
@BenDover-rz3kq
@BenDover-rz3kq 6 месяцев назад
Japan's ass backwards when it comes to societal norms Boggles my mind how one of the most advanced countries in the world can be so primitive when it comes to some really basic stuff
@voltaicangelo
@voltaicangelo 6 месяцев назад
The same thing in South Korea. I can't believe how idiotic and sad this is.
@ryana5435
@ryana5435 6 месяцев назад
@@voltaicangelo so you have to be 18 regardless of parental consent to get plastic surgery in South Korea? It’s more regulated than I think and that’s why South Korean’s gift for their adulthood is plastic surgery…
@bobbygoestoabyss6624
@bobbygoestoabyss6624 6 месяцев назад
And to ad a cherry on top... tattoos are taboo in j due to die assotioation with yakuza... Don't get mys wrong. I love tattoos... but i never ever wan't to see that done to children. As well as plastic surgery. That's just inhuman!
@bobbygoestoabyss6624
@bobbygoestoabyss6624 6 месяцев назад
Also... I find tattoos are a way better method to uppen your self esteem ^^ ...only for adults though...
@autumnatic6507
@autumnatic6507 6 месяцев назад
The amount of cope from the mother just to validate plastic surgery on not only a minor but her own child is actually insane😐
@seanrowshandel1680
@seanrowshandel1680 6 месяцев назад
That's why social workers exist...😜
@bloodnessx
@bloodnessx 6 месяцев назад
im suprised she didnt bleach her childs skin
@destituteanddecadent9106
@destituteanddecadent9106 6 месяцев назад
​@@bloodnessxpaleness isn't as much of a beauty standard in Japan. I remember there was an annual contest at my daycare of "who tanned the most over summer vacation" (which is a bit fucked in its own right). The point is, no one's getting bullied for having darker skin. Maybe if they were black or blasian they could be, I honestly don't know how often that happens, but in any case that would be more racism than colorism.
@hoshi-15
@hoshi-15 6 месяцев назад
I'm incredibly nervous about children's faces changing after plastic surgery. I'm not sure if they will even mature properly or if there will be any complications from that.
@tdelioncourt1268
@tdelioncourt1268 6 месяцев назад
Yes I'm curious because now her skin will grow around the scar... I'm very curious
@octogonSmuggler
@octogonSmuggler 6 месяцев назад
Look at most Kpop idols who've aged some and you'll find your answer. They get procedures done sometimes as young as 12 since they have idol schools over there. They get plastic surgery before they debut as minors. Then they begin to age. Most of them end up being tossed aside by their 30s or 40s, depending. It's so sad.
@xy2447
@xy2447 5 месяцев назад
I would say it's the least to worry about. If they allow it and if it seems normal to them, then it's not the first time when it happend. Imagine the psychological development of this child. Things like that stay engraved in your brain, experiences like this shape their opinions, afterall they learn from parents too.
@shiro_kuma3817
@shiro_kuma3817 6 месяцев назад
Dear Joey, I am part Japanese and I have been really insecure of myself because of toxic Japanese standards such as beauty standards, toxic judgements, and stereotypes. As someone who look up to alot of foreign influencers who promotes self-acceptance and self-love, I was able to overcome my insecurities I had from toxic standards. It would greatly change Japanese people if you make videos in Japanese and explain how their judgements are toxic and hurtful. Thank you for reading Edit: Hello everyone. I am very touched by the heartwarming replies full of encouragement and kindness. Self-love is such an important value, and I am very lucky to be able to embrace that. Your replies are very meaningful to me and everyone else who reads it. I hope we can all spread the love. Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart.
@Ohnmi
@Ohnmi 6 месяцев назад
You are fine just the way you are , don’t let anyone else say otherwise!
@ryana5435
@ryana5435 6 месяцев назад
…you know 4chan is originated from 2ch…you know how Japanese Internet is way more cesspool than English circle Internet to some extent…Nobody want to be doxxed and got death threats…Joey said before in one of this video that he won’t make videos in Japanese because of the fear towards Japanese Internet, and the reasons I listed above and more reasons I didn’t listed… I don’t know your comment can change his mind or not but this type of videos are targeted towards his western audience. His purpose is not be a social justice warrior to fight against the dark side of Japanese society… Anyway nice try. Thanks for let people in the rest of world knowing how young ladies think about the traditional patriarchal society, Japanese society. BTW are you minor? High Schooler? You comment seems like you are undergoing bullying in real life and even on the Internet. If that is the case, please seek for public help and legal help/aid/service
@Gamer_Wolf19
@Gamer_Wolf19 6 месяцев назад
@shiro_kuma3817 I'm kinda the same in the fact I've been insecure about how i look for ages now and have been struggling to accept myself for who I am
@hotdogeater8647
@hotdogeater8647 6 месяцев назад
eyyy man hope yer ok
@zendr822
@zendr822 6 месяцев назад
I agree with u shiro, he should prob do Japanese sub
@Paakli
@Paakli 6 месяцев назад
Agreed, there is nothing wrong with that kid's face. There should be protections for children against parental abuse.
@sleepymonsteraddict
@sleepymonsteraddict 6 месяцев назад
It's sad how monolids are criticized in Japan, as a European I've always thought it looks very pretty. It comes to show that our beauty standards are always what we don't naturally have, in the West it is very popular to have surgery or use makeup to make you eyes look more thinner, while in Asia the opposite is true. Which makes all this so sad because that shows that plenty of people love thin eyes and plenty of people love big eyes. This should not be legal in now way or form and the mother saying nobody is pretty with monolids was straight out calling her own child ugly while she's actually not ugly at all.
@IcuTapIcu
@IcuTapIcu 6 месяцев назад
And she's still young her Face will go through so mich changes as she grows up
@funtimeLJ6789
@funtimeLJ6789 6 месяцев назад
And she’s only 9! She’s still growing and changing so things can change once she’s gone through puberty.
@CAsaidit
@CAsaidit 6 месяцев назад
It’s one thing for a parent to be delusional, but it’s more twisted that there is a doctor out there that would perform this on a child.
@ryana5435
@ryana5435 6 месяцев назад
In states, if the neighbor reported this case, the parents will be arrested!
@thelaptopcreeper9084
@thelaptopcreeper9084 6 месяцев назад
The fact that the mother would force her daughter to get plastic surgery, instead of actually supporting and uplifting her is strait up disgusting and evil.
@ZombieKayla
@ZombieKayla 15 дней назад
You can tell from the mother’s face and body language, that she is insecure or has some sort of trauma or mental illness.
@sweetpixiesmile
@sweetpixiesmile 6 месяцев назад
I'm a Chinese woman with a Chinese woman partner. She summed it up nicely: "it doesn't matter how pretty the package is if the inside is shit. The smell will always spoil the experience." East Asian beauty standards tend to be pretty unhealthy and is at least 300 years behind other, more progressive countries, because many were force-industrialized by Western colonization. Just look at South Korea, where technology has not only made work harder and more demanding, but encouraged a highly competitive culture that creates an environment where SA, bullying, black companies, sexism, xenophobia, traditionalist norms and classism will destroy the country as we know it in 1 generation unless they reverse course (their current birthrate is under 0.8. Even Japan's is about 1.3 and they are facing a population demographic catastrophe in 50 years.) Each person has to make the decision for themselves over what they are willing to do for their self-esteem (and accepting the dangers for that decision.) Selfishness in East Asia really comes in in extreme ways. This is straight up child-abuse... similar to beauty-pageant moms.
@qwmx
@qwmx 6 месяцев назад
I love what she said.
@calicobagels
@calicobagels 6 месяцев назад
She is so damn right.
@lordtraxroy
@lordtraxroy 6 месяцев назад
at least the sinosphere aka east asia and vietnam is not as hardly religous as south asia and north africa as well as the middle east
@realnova7429
@realnova7429 6 месяцев назад
colonialism has nothing to do with it, Korea wasn't even colonized by any western country, please stop generalising and talking about history if you are not an expert, I see it all the time and I die inside everytime.
@rumplstiltztinkerstein
@rumplstiltztinkerstein 6 месяцев назад
I agree. Isn't it impressive how most of these bad things are hidden behind "good" intentions? It is very common to see cases of abuse coming with excuses like "I'm doing this for your good." etc
@lazekozuya
@lazekozuya 6 месяцев назад
I think that its very dangerous for an entire culture in a country to normalize plastic surgery and beauty standards that will raise children in such a wrong way in the next generation
@guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077
@guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077 6 месяцев назад
Every nation does this dude.
@Beatlefan333
@Beatlefan333 6 месяцев назад
So he watches a documentary about one single parent whos done this and then acts like every single person in Japan finds it to be acceptable? I dont get the fascination with Westerners always wanting to generalize Asian people in such a wide degree its actually infurating being Asian myself.
@votesaxon1
@votesaxon1 6 месяцев назад
Probably nearly every culture on earth has their own set of unattainable beauty ideals for women especially
@votesaxon1
@votesaxon1 6 месяцев назад
@@Beatlefan333he never said that
@Beatlefan333
@Beatlefan333 6 месяцев назад
@@votesaxon1 He literally says that Japanese society finds this to be acceptable, wtf do you think that could possibly mean aside from saying they either have no problem or are ok with it?
@L337Dratini
@L337Dratini 6 месяцев назад
I woke up during surgery around that age (removal of tonsils and adenoids) and it is 100% traumatic - they lean over you and stare at you while still holding the tools they were using, then start talking worriedly to the anesthesiologist to figure it out. They think you don't remember; some kids don't on the surface, but they remember in nightmares.
@FredMaverik
@FredMaverik 6 месяцев назад
....Went a little bit too personal there, Jimmy.
@L337Dratini
@L337Dratini 6 месяцев назад
@@FredMaverik Not really. These things should be studied to make surgeries less traumatic and stressful for patients, especially children. Although this child should have never gone through this surgery in the first place. Also, if anyone feels less alone because I was open in a random comment on a video, then at least I've done some good.
@josephoyek6574
@josephoyek6574 6 месяцев назад
WAS IT PAINFUL???
@destituteanddecadent9106
@destituteanddecadent9106 6 месяцев назад
Tbf the surgery that the girl in the video got wasn't invasive, it was more like a suture in the lid to create a crease. It can still be traumatic, but you don't even get sedated for it, much less general anesthesia. So when Joey freaks out about "SHE WOKE UP", no, the problem was probably that she wasn't sedated so she had very high anxiety. It's still deeply messed up that the mom forced this on her daughter, but Joey's sensationalist outrage content needs so much fact checking, I find it disrespectful to the subjects being discussed. Especially the girl, poor thing.
@L337Dratini
@L337Dratini 6 месяцев назад
​@@destituteanddecadent9106 Many types of eyelid surgery have some form of sedation to keep the surgical area still. If she was not given at least twilight sedation, that is another layer of abuse this poor girl has experienced. It's not sensationalist outrage when people are freaking out about a literal child getting fully elective, invasive surgery. It is invasive in that the skin barrier is breeched and internal layers are accessed through a cut, not an orifice. Disrespect to the girl would require Joey to make fun of her in some way. He (and many others) are rightfully incensed that this child is experiencing abuse on a public stage. Elective, invasive surgery forced onto children does NOT need to be discussed respectfully.
@korielyenia6139
@korielyenia6139 6 месяцев назад
I have never understood kids getting plastic surgery. You’re a kid. You aren’t done growing. The only time I kinda understood it was a TLC documentary and it was a 13yr old who had broken their nose like 5x and was getting insanely bullied and they wanted it. The parents only said yes at that age because the last break had made it difficult for the girl to breathe through her nose. They didn’t say yes for aesthetics and bullying. They said yes so she could breathe properly. That’s the difference. It was almost a necessity at that point. Not vanity.
@FredMaverik
@FredMaverik 6 месяцев назад
how did the kid broke her nose so much
@destituteanddecadent9106
@destituteanddecadent9106 6 месяцев назад
The laws are more complicated than how Joey is presenting it here... It's more nuanced, not as easy. Where do we draw the line between necessity and vanity? If we start with the distinction between purely cosmetic surgery and reconstructive surgery to rebuild certain parts of your face and body after an accident - that's relatively easy. Most will think the former is unnecessary and unethical to enforce on a kid, the latter is more necessary and should be legal. Consider next: orthodontics. Braces are often introduced at a younger age so that your teeth can move into place while your jaw is still growing. This is often a painful process and sometimes even involves tooth extraction. Can a child consent to that? Purely for the sake of looks? How about children born with disfigurements that severely impact their mental health and access to a "normal" childhood? It's easy to say "they should learn to love themselves. It's society that's cruel." when you're not the one going through it. The child might come out permanently and irreversibly traumatized into adulthood. So legally, where should we draw the line? It's once again easy to criticize edge cases where 99% of people will agree, for an easy cash grab, like Joey is doing. Somewhat harder to decide where to draw the line in legislation. A lot of people are going to be okay with braces and tooth extraction, because that's how they've been raised. But it's not critical thinking if you default to whatever society told you growing up, is it? This isn't meant to be a gotcha by the way, just wanted to illustrate the difficulties that the video was completely overlooking.
@vladys5238
@vladys5238 6 месяцев назад
​@@destituteanddecadent9106 orthodontics is not just cosmetic by the way... crooked teeth can often have poor contact and pressure points when eating and it eventually leads to breaking teeth(I know cause I experienced it)
@destituteanddecadent9106
@destituteanddecadent9106 6 месяцев назад
@@vladys5238 ik, that's why the line is hard to draw. Similar to what orthodontic procedures should be covered by public insurance, and what's just for the aesthetic? If it's not covered by public insurance (which is most of orthodontic treatment in most countries), does that mean it's for aesthetic reasons, and therefore unethical to do to a child?
@zanewolf2509
@zanewolf2509 6 месяцев назад
I had a large mole on my chin that I had removed when I was 14. That mole was the first thing you noticed when you looked at me. I don’t think most people need any surgery, but I’d argue that procedure changed my life (particularly during HS).
@audrey.c1
@audrey.c1 6 месяцев назад
I had a classmate in middle school who had the double eyelid surgery. She was Korean and this was like the early 2000s. She too got it as a kid. By the time she reached middle school she had issues with her eyelids shutting completely. :( and you could still see the surgical scars when she would close her eyes.
@TeaBeeAdventures
@TeaBeeAdventures 6 месяцев назад
I'm dating a wonderful Japanese woman and I can't you how much it bothers me that she has the standard Japanese view on make up. She has this idea that the world around you shouldn't have to be cursed to see her natural face. I can't imagine having this mind set that apparently your natural self is so ugly that you have to cover it up or it's some kind of crime to those that have to see it. I don't care if she wears make up for the rest of her life, that's perfectly fine, it just makes me sad that she feels like she HAS TO wear it.
@baeber
@baeber 6 месяцев назад
Yeah that's pretty sad but ah well they do look very cute with make up tho
@mothmos
@mothmos 6 месяцев назад
this is what media/patriarchy did to women all over the world. Even american women feel this way. There are even videos of 'going a full day without makeup' as if it's some revolutionary thing to do, which for them, in their psyche, it is.
@seanrowshandel1680
@seanrowshandel1680 6 месяцев назад
This is about someone's family teaching her that coping with the pain of a malpractice/cosmetic surgery is what makes people reach "adulthood" [in her family, upon being granted forgiveness for the foolish/childish things they did before Reaching Adulthood], and that other people who don't cope with this inconvenience/pain are not forgiven for their That's why this is something which concerns social workers, not RU-vidrs. The Rite of Passage [through cosmetic surgery] is when these people are granted forgiveness. There needs to be a full-blown reform to erase the "footsteps" which these people leave everywhere in the world where they go. It has nothing to do with Japan. This is about everyone's culture, and everyone's life: these "memes", including all religious body modifications, have spread MANY times in history until we Shut That Religion's Mouth (by breaking its jaw). If you've ever heard the term, "afterlife", you might be shocked to find out that it refers to "adulthood" after having gone through a rite of passage where one has been forgiven for one's "previous life". Once someone goes through that rite of passage, they become extremists whose only purpose is to promote this type of endangerment. It's a situation where there are enemies to humanity who are being targeted for execution, and as a result of the terror which they instill when they continue their lifestyles, nobody has been able to intervene yet (and these creatures keep reproducing as well).
@jamesmccomb9525
@jamesmccomb9525 6 месяцев назад
Not a Japanese thing, just a woman thing in general. Women have been conditioned to lack confidence because those that were self assured in history either got killed for being uppity wenches or didn't find anybody to bed with because their partners felt demasculated and insecure.
@EzziiG
@EzziiG 6 месяцев назад
​@@mothmos please don't blame men for women being insecure, no man has ever given a shit about women wearing makeup, women are their own worst enemies, women criticize and critique each other on looks more than men have ever done.
@sloppymommy4796
@sloppymommy4796 6 месяцев назад
I'm a mother, as a mother and while my child is grown now, I can't fathom the idea of not only making my child feel "imperfect", but then sending them into get plastic surgery! I dont blame the child for her opinion on "plastic surgery makes you beautiful" I blame the parents for drilling that into her mind.
@cupiefly
@cupiefly 6 месяцев назад
I have a 5 year old daughter that has a severe case of alopecia....I cried for weeks when hair kept falling out. While we tried some oral treatments, her hair didn't want to come back. Instead of choosing to do more invasive treatments me and my husband and I decided to let it be and teach her that she should love herself with or without hair. Seeing this 9 year old go under the knife for something she doesn't need to for a beauty standard that will never accept them hurts my heart as a parent. 😢
@julesoxana
@julesoxana 3 месяца назад
You are an amazing mother❤ God bless❤
@lacie2446
@lacie2446 6 месяцев назад
"Every problem I have can be fixed by going under the knife." Perfectly spoken Joey, that's their exact line of thinking. That's how you get cosmetic surgery addicts. And whilst a drug user would end up overdosing a surgery addict just ends up horrifically disfigured or mutilated to the point that it can't be "fixed". And unlike most drug overdoses, they actually have to 'live with it'.
@taylorl9424
@taylorl9424 6 месяцев назад
Children are not physically matured enough to make the decision of getting plastic surgery. Their faces haven’t even grown fully and getting plastic surgery will affect that. Almost everyone has felt insecure about their looks growing up. As you said just mental support can go a long way in what a child thinks about themselves. The doctors are in the wrong too
@gakidomo9561
@gakidomo9561 6 месяцев назад
Bruh, I get bullied for my name I get bullied for how I look I get bullied because of my low grades When I was at her age, I had to deal with my elder siblings and my Dad. I never thought of plastic surgery because it wasn't popular back then but god damn, if I was her Dad, I would leave the Mother and take the child away. The mother has no right to force the child into dangerous pastic surgery... Constant pain will become a issue for her when she grows up and if she still does surgery because of the Mother, then, she should leave the mother at the age of 16 or 18 to another relative for protection or to someone she can trust and count on. Mother like her is the reason why, dating and divorce is the reason why it is still happening. Im against Plastic Surgery, I want to look natural as possible. Let's outlaw and ban plastic surgery since, plastic is ban in some countries lol.
@taylorl9424
@taylorl9424 6 месяцев назад
@@gakidomo9561 agree because the way the mother just said “oh you can fix that by plastic surgery” it’s already putting insecurities and pain that will develop with her later on in life. I just hope she realizes it sooner than later if she gets anymore surgeries
@gakidomo9561
@gakidomo9561 6 месяцев назад
@taylorl9424 Yeah, fr, I literally went to Martial arts class back in Korea when I was getting bullied, move to Australia and still gets bullied for who I am lmfao. Guess what? I stand up for myself and I ingore them... Sure, they are females and girls and are different from men and boys but, the mother has no rights to play as a victim card and still pretend to be worried at her. By the looks of it, the mother is desperately trying to force her own child into plastic surgery and will continue to do so. I hope the child knows why people bullies her and why she isn't making any friends or progress lmfao... Also, this level of bullying is low... Come to think of it, why didn't they mention which school they were bullied? Why didn't they rock up to school during the interview? Why didn't they have a chat with the principle and the teachers? I'm Korean and this makes me sad...
@user-gu9yq5sj7c
@user-gu9yq5sj7c 4 месяца назад
@@gakidomo9561 Bullying, prejudice, and images of extreme standards will still make people want to change their appearances.
@potatoesdeterre
@potatoesdeterre 6 месяцев назад
This whole situation reminds me of a really well made Korean short film I watched a while back. The premise was that all the adults had this creepy doll face made from plastic surgery which was considered the beauty standard in that film’s world. The young child in it felt very isolated without the procedure and hated their looks so they needed up getting it. This goes to show that some stories should be dystopian are actually happening in real life which is extremely tragic. (I think the short film is on the Alter RU-vid channel)
@guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077
@guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077 6 месяцев назад
I saw that too. Creepy AF.
@loneeggtt
@loneeggtt 6 месяцев назад
yea, i have seen it, very creepy and realistic
@MahiMahi-yu5jo
@MahiMahi-yu5jo 6 месяцев назад
Ah yes. Human Form is there name of the short. I didn't sleep for 2 days because of it...
@Khaleesi_Jack
@Khaleesi_Jack 5 месяцев назад
I saw that movie review. Those were fucking horrifying.
@travis-bs3bs
@travis-bs3bs 12 дней назад
Joey has to check the fact before posting. “the④ most high numbers of plastic surgery is Japan”? That's wrong. Here's the ranking.①South Korea②Argentina③Brazil④Colombia⑤Greece⑥US⑦Germany……⑭Japan. There's an another ranking①US②Brazil③Japan but this doesn't include countries like South Korea which has huge numbers of cosmetic surgery doctors. In Japan, antiageing like botox injection and laser hair removal is popular and is main numbers. This documentary picks it as Japanese trend now. Yes, the mother is sick. But it's very rare case. Still plastic surgery is a negative image in Japan. If most Japanese parents watch this documentary, they would react like him. He lives in Japan for many years but still has to learn more. He needs more close Japanese friends and families.
@liamme54
@liamme54 6 месяцев назад
Hearing how passionate Joey got about his hypothetical child was very wholesome. Make a good dad some day me thinks.
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib 6 месяцев назад
funny thing is, hes completely fine with children going through sex changes.
@julesoxana
@julesoxana 3 месяца назад
​@@Pepe-dq2ib I think thats a different case
@chiefzombie9184
@chiefzombie9184 6 месяцев назад
The mom is clearly a textbook narcissist, I see too many parallels with me and my own mom. I can only imagine the hell that daughter is going to go through in her puberty years trying to figure out herself, and in her young adult years trying to understand her own identity without her mom's influence. I can already see the damage, it's so disgusting and sad to watch it happen.
@basementdwellercosplay
@basementdwellercosplay 6 месяцев назад
You shouldn't get elective plastic surgery if you haven't finished going through puberty. She has likely not even hit puberty and a doctor agreed to this!? The mother isn't to blame solely, the doctors are too! BTW when I say elective plastic surgery, its not including plastic surgery for things like burn scars or cleft lip that help the person live a more average life with less pain, not just cause it will make themselves feel more pretty like this surgery would
@guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077
@guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077 6 месяцев назад
Bingo! 100000000000% agree. Some PS is fine if it is to fix cleft lips etc.
@tammyen
@tammyen 6 месяцев назад
Whats interesting is that I got work done because I have cleft lip and palate and have still encountered some people prejudiced against me getting plastic surgery
@Metroid250
@Metroid250 6 месяцев назад
​@tammyen they're stupid for that. There's a huge difference between elective surgery and medically necessary surgery to treat or fix medical condition. My goodness many people are dumbtards.
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib 6 месяцев назад
but they can go through sex changes?
@yukikanegawa7470
@yukikanegawa7470 6 месяцев назад
​@@Pepe-dq2ib Who tf do you think is doing sex changes on children? This sounds like a US comment so do your research. That's illegal. The closest thing is that after many doctor approvals ,that take years to go through, that say you could benefit from that. If you are underage you can get puberty blockers which delay puberty. Nothing stops it from happening. If you decide that's not good for you or there's dude effects or whatever then you can stop taking them and you'll go through puberty and develop your biological physical characteristics. And this has nothing to do with plastic surgery.
@SoulStarSketchin
@SoulStarSketchin 6 месяцев назад
12:50 The moment she flinched I did too. Poor girl. She is in an abusive relationship whether they openly admit it or not.
@mahoslash
@mahoslash 6 месяцев назад
There is this popular Chinese saying: Girls go under 18 changes when they grow up. (That means: Girls change a lot before they mature.) You really don't have to force plastic surgery on kids when the final result isn't even there yet.
@WafuuSen
@WafuuSen 6 месяцев назад
When i was living in Philippines, i didn’t really have to think about my appearance. We were all kids being kids. Now i became adult and live here now in Japan.. my confidence plummeted so much. I see so many people wanting to be more prettier..it makes me feel like i should too. But i know beauty standards dont last, they change. So i always remind myself that our body is only a vessel and that we should take care of it.
@Animeister93
@Animeister93 6 месяцев назад
I remember seeing an animation of a woman getting plastic surgery with each trend that comes up, changing her body to match those standards. But then at the end, the trend is just being natural and being yourself is the newest trend. As Joey said, if you want to get some surgery done to help boost your confidence, you do you. But don't ever force it on someone else. ESPECIALLY children who are too young to consent and even agreeing with the bully and calling your own child ugly in a sense. As much as I love Japan, this is one of the things I will never understand.
@normalperson651
@normalperson651 6 месяцев назад
As someone who grew up with a mother like that, i really feel for this child. My mom hated everything about my appearance. My weight, my teeth, even the way i walk. She constantly yelled at me for not doing things in a way that would make me more beautiful. she constanty pestered me about the way i walk, kept forcing me to do sports and go outside and run even though i have very serious social anxiety issues, even forced me into getting a gym subscription. She kept giving me snarky remarks about the things i eat. In my country getting plastic surgery while underage is not allowed, but if it was im sure she wouldve made me do it. She did make me wear braces, even though my teeth were barely crooked and posed no life complications. And now as a 22 year old i cannot look at myself in the mirror. Its simply too painful because i hate the way i look. I never take pictures of myself. I cant imagine this child growing up into a healthy adult. I really hope the mother from the video gets serious repercussions. And i hope this stupid law in japan gets abolished because this is awful.
@IcicleFerret
@IcicleFerret 6 месяцев назад
I'd like to let you know, being imperfect is perfect. People who point out your characteristics as bad are simply insecure with themselves, and projecting that onto you. As a teen, I said those things about myself, despite what other people told me. I dunno what changed, but one day, when I was in my twenties, I just looked at myself in a mirror and thought, "This is me, and that's fine." Here's hoping you reach that point for yourself.
@vermillionrot
@vermillionrot 6 месяцев назад
Sounds like my parents too. I've been called fat and ugly as long as I can remember and my father used to call me a cabbage patch kid in a shameful and condescending way. You really learn to be ashamed about everything 😶 I will never understand why someone would do that to a kid, or anyone!
@jamesmccomb9525
@jamesmccomb9525 6 месяцев назад
She sounds pretty reasonable to me. Excluding your interpretation of what your mother thinks of you, it just sounds like she's recommending a bunch of stuff that'll keep you healthy. Braces also aren't something you should delay with, crooked teeth only get more crooked with time.
@destituteanddecadent9106
@destituteanddecadent9106 6 месяцев назад
There is no a law. That's the problem. Joey is severely misrepresenting the issue, it's frankly very frustrating. It's the lack of explicit legislation that leaves loopholes like this. There's the question of where to draw the line (should braces be okay? Should orthodontic tooth extraction be okay? How about fixing congenital disfigurements or reconstructive surgery after accidents?) that makes it complicated and nuanced to put it into legislature, especially compared to how much Joey is oversimplifying the issue here. This is shameful outrage bait. Low hanging fruit if you ask me.
@TheAnnez0r
@TheAnnez0r 6 месяцев назад
​@@destituteanddecadent9106​ In my country there is a very defined line of what is plastic surgery or aesthetic surgery versus medical surgery because of our free health care system (free health care doesn't cover anything considered purely aesthetic). The same guidelines could be applied to minors when it comes to surgery. So making a law about it is absolutely doable. Here is how it goes: Anything that can cause health problems should be allowed, anything that is purely aesthetic shouldn't. For example, if a person loses a lot of weight and has excess skin, if this excess skin can cause rashes or hygiene issues it would be allowed, if it's just a bit of love handles as we call it, then it would fall under aesthetic surgery. So yes braces would be ok because there are long term health benefits to them (prevents cavities when teeth are aligned). Tooth extraction too (wisdom teeth can cause nerve issues, a misplaced tooth can cause abscess). Congenital disfigurement would be only if the disfigurement causes health issues (which should include most of the serious ones ), reconstructive surgery would also be good up to the point where no health issues are happening. I really don't think Joey is baiting anyone. Laws to define cosmetics versus medical surgery exist in other countries. It's been done, it's doable. It's also not Joey's job to present a bill to the japanese government with all the details - This is an opinion video, not a political debate. Stating your discontent with a situation is not a crime.
@Phantomonum
@Phantomonum 6 месяцев назад
Hey Joey, I got the exact opposite from the second girl's (hostess's) story. From what I understood, she didn't like how she looked when she was young, so she wanted to do the plastic surgery, but her mom was absolutely against it. Yet the girl wasn't changing her mind, so her mother had a type of breakdown where she pulled a kitchen knife on herself and told her, that if she didn't stop, she was going to take her own life, and completely heartbroken, she kept on profusely apologizing, 'I'm sorry, I'm sorry that I gave birth to you with the face that you don't like, but I won't allow you to do the plastic surgery, that's it! No more!' And the girl was like, "I still did it anyways lol"... We don't know the full story, and the mother probably could have handled it much better than threaten to kill herself, but at least her heart was in the right place. As in, 'I'm sorry that you feel that way, but I won't let you do the plastic surgery'. I felt bad for the mother.
@TetsuoXLI
@TetsuoXLI 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I think he misunderstood what was happening. (Unless the Japanese was different)
@some2043
@some2043 6 месяцев назад
​@@TetsuoXLIhaving subject and object of the sentence roaming freely in it screw any chance of not having a misunderstanding among every conservation (it is bad enough when our minds play tricks on us grammar is overkill)
@travis-bs3bs
@travis-bs3bs 12 дней назад
Joey has to check the fact before posting. “the④ most high numbers of plastic surgery is Japan”? That's wrong. Here's the ranking.①South Korea②Argentina③Brazil④Colombia⑤Greece⑥US⑦Germany……⑭Japan. There's an another ranking①US②Brazil③Japan but this doesn't include countries like South Korea which has huge numbers of cosmetic surgery doctors. In Japan, antiageing like botox injection and laser hair removal is popular and is main numbers. This documentary picks it as Japanese trend now. Yes, the mother is sick. But it's very rare case. Still plastic surgery is a negative image in Japan. If most Japanese parents watch this documentary, they would react like him. He lives in Japan for many years but still has to learn more. He needs more close Japanese friends and families.
@quokkakola1722
@quokkakola1722 6 месяцев назад
I never even knew mono vs double eyelids was a thing people noticed until I started watching K-drama. The beauty standards in Asia are wild if something that minor, and basically genetic, is the cornerstone and it gets crazier from there.
@yoboisergei
@yoboisergei 6 месяцев назад
There is still one question that remains unanswered: WHERE'S THE FATHER?
@yayayayaas3176
@yayayayaas3176 6 месяцев назад
milk
@plzleavemealone9660
@plzleavemealone9660 6 месяцев назад
Sadly this is the answer teachers in Japan give if you if you asked for help when you're being bullied. You're the problem. Not the bully.
@yowwowtow
@yowwowtow 6 месяцев назад
Oh my god
@HA-pu6ce
@HA-pu6ce 6 месяцев назад
From the perspective or a Japanese, in a sense, you are. Not saying to think so is right, but it's often times much more realistic to change just one person than to change the environment which consists of dozens of people.
@skymyu
@skymyu 6 месяцев назад
Not just in Japan. Many countries in Asia has this. I was personally told this by my school counselor in Indonesia when i was bullied.
@joannadevis6096
@joannadevis6096 6 месяцев назад
​@@skymyuI am from Russia and I was bullied in school. My parents told me the same things: "if you get bullied then you did something wrong. Think about your behavior and change yourself". They were raised in USSR, like majority of my teachers, in a collectivist society where stepping out of line got you punished, even if it's a small thing, and this order of things is still deeply imbedded in our culture. My self esteem was already ruined by bullying, but my parents agreeing with me being wrong shattered it completely. Till this day I'm overthinking everything about my behavior and looks, and it's so exhausting
@saranaila5905
@saranaila5905 6 месяцев назад
​@@HA-pu6ceit's not realistic to try and "change" anyone. What works is consequences. Regardless of the person, if there are consequences severe enough for bullying then one would hesitate to do it, they have to enforce these consequences. It first needs to be taken seriously, oftentimes they just shrug it off until something unfortunate happens then they pretend to Care rince and repeat again.
@vivalanina
@vivalanina 6 месяцев назад
I had a European/slavic friend growing up around the age of 9 or so saying she really wanted to get rid of the bump on her nose. She wasn't really bullied for it ever but felt subconscious about it. She mentioned wanting to get a nose job one day for it, her mom of course told her to wait until she was older. And when she grew up she never got that nose job. 1. because she got used to how she looks and diversity setting her apart, being a part of her heritage and 2. because she was no longer in a setting where judgement and pressures of school/fitting in felt so much more dire as you mature. Also when you're still developing with your body proportions are changing bits of you that you don't like might go away entirely (Freckles) or become much less prominent when you grow up. I'm all for getting kids braces when they're younger, it can help with their jaws, eating, smiles, breathing, prevents pain from wisdom teeth, confidence, dating, job applications etc. but unnecessary cosmetic procedures and permanent changes during development are a hard no.
@SodicCan
@SodicCan 6 месяцев назад
I'm also from Central/Eastern Europe and also have a short curved nose. Couldn't stand to take any photos of my face because of it, I was so convinced it was ruining my whole appearance. Took me a long time to get used to it and admit that that's how I look and that it's a trait that got passed down for dozens of generations, and it actually felt great once I did. But with how seemingly pretty common plastic surgery of that kind is here (especially among celebrities), I see how a person develops this sort of thinking.
@lights-chan
@lights-chan 6 месяцев назад
I can't even get past the little girl crying in pain without getting uncomfortable . I respect Joey for watching the entire video of this crap that some parents would force their children to undergo surgery to change their appearances. 😢
@emanuelperono1562
@emanuelperono1562 6 месяцев назад
I blame the society and media for having this fcked up beauty standard especially in korea.
@alicenlucy
@alicenlucy 6 месяцев назад
I got lower eyelid surgery (my lower eyelashes poked my eyes so it was a medical issue) and I got it done wide awake under local anesthesia. That was traumatizing not gonna lie. So can't imagine waking up to that as a 9 yr old...
@spyrosgkoumas5339
@spyrosgkoumas5339 6 месяцев назад
No self-respecting doctor would consent to doing plastic surgery to a nine year old, regardless of whether it was legal.
@jackiewepps4694
@jackiewepps4694 6 месяцев назад
You know, the bullying relating to appearance makes me think of the book Heaven by Mieko Kawakami. As I was told (I have yet to read the whole book myself), the protagonist gets surgery to fix his lazy eye. He hopes that with this surgery, the bullying he is facing will stop, but his friend, another bullying victim, believes that the bullies will just find something else to bully him for and advises him not to get the surgery and instead own the lazy eye. And about the bullying, I believe the friend has a point. Just because you get a surgery to have the reason why people bully you removed, it only means they will find something else to bully you for.
@thekingofynn8700
@thekingofynn8700 6 месяцев назад
This is genuinely sad. When I was 9, I was dissed for my Somali forehead but I learnt that, that didn’t determine my looks or my value by my relative. I wasn’t shipped to turkey.
@KennyPham
@KennyPham 6 месяцев назад
The toxic body shaming culture even travels to the west as well, my parents are immigrants and they hold onto the crazy beauty standards for my female family members. They're always chasing the dragon of reversing the passage of time and effect of age on themselves by going under the knife many times. There's been times where my family members have gone to south east asia and come back with a new face. The obsession is obscene, and all the kids get the worst of it all. They endlessly compare their kids to others and make them feel like shit for not being "beautiful", the irony being that they no longer look like their own families.
@Jiparo5612
@Jiparo5612 6 месяцев назад
Japan obsession on beauty and perfection is scary. Even their fruits have more care than their children😬
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib 6 месяцев назад
American obsession on sex and race is scary. Even their political beliefs have more care than children getting gunned down on a weekly basis😬
@travis-bs3bs
@travis-bs3bs 12 дней назад
Joey has to check the fact before posting. “the④ most high numbers of plastic surgery is Japan”? That's wrong. Here's the ranking.①South Korea②Argentina③Brazil④Colombia⑤Greece⑥US⑦Germany……⑭Japan. There's an another ranking①US②Brazil③Japan but this doesn't include countries like South Korea which has huge numbers of cosmetic surgery doctors. In Japan, antiageing like botox injection and laser hair removal is popular and is main numbers. This documentary picks it as Japanese trend now. Yes, the mother is sick. But it's very rare case. Still plastic surgery is a negative image in Japan. If most Japanese parents watch this documentary, they would react like him. He lives in Japan for many years but still has to learn more. He needs more close Japanese friends and families.
@jhawkshaw
@jhawkshaw 6 месяцев назад
I kinda feel like there's some internalised racism as well with these beauty standards. I'm half Japanese/Australian like Joey and I spent my first six years in Japan. Watching this video with my mum, she told me she remembered one of the girls I went to pre-school with just nonchalantly telling her that she wanted to be a star when she grew up, but knew that she can't because only "pretty girls" like me can be one (note that I don't actually think I'm that pretty, I just stood out because I looked obviously foreign compared to the rest of the kids there). She said it like it was nothing, like it was pure fact. My mum was really concerned whether it was her peers that made her think this way.
@muddyhotdog4103
@muddyhotdog4103 6 месяцев назад
Japan has always had harsh beauty standards even before any western interference.. They aren't trying to look like anyone else, they have their own "look" they're trying to achieve, and it shows on their posters/media/etc.. Japan has also showed hatred to those who are "exotic" too, ie those who are Hafu, and then those who are gaijin. It goes both ways unfortunately
@spiele_maus
@spiele_maus 6 месяцев назад
Man, here were I live plastic surgery is illegal under the age of 14, and up until 18 it’s still heavily limited. And I totally agree with you. How can these people even call themselves „parents“…. I think plastic surgery is becoming a big problem nowadays, especially because of Social Media and the high beauty „standards“…
@ramblingsofa30ish
@ramblingsofa30ish 6 месяцев назад
I think it's not only the idol industry. It all stems from everything aesthetically pleasing in Japan. Even in a business setting; an employee is expected to wear their best and look their best for their clients. Women mostly spend tons of money on cosmetic just to achieve that no-make-up make-up look. How expensive it is to get a haircut even. Women are expected not to have even the thinnest facial hair. Even a basic gift should be wrapped beautifully so what more with people. Standard in all aspect is so high in Japan.
@travis-bs3bs
@travis-bs3bs 12 дней назад
Joey has to check the fact before posting. He shouldn't do too much youtuber things“negative contents earn more money”. “the④ most high numbers of plastic surgery is Japan”? That's wrong. Here's the ranking.①South Korea②Argentina③Brazil④Colombia⑤Greece⑥US⑦Germany……⑭Japan. There's an another ranking①US②Brazil③Japan but this doesn't include countries like South Korea which has huge numbers of cosmetic surgery doctors. In Japan, antiageing like botox injection and laser hair removal is popular and is main numbers. This documentary picks it as Japanese trend now and leads wrong. Yes, the first mother is sick. But it's very rare case. Still plastic surgery is a negative image in Japan. If most Japanese parents watch this documentary, they would react like him. He also misunderstood Japanese and what was happening in the documentary. From the second girl's story, her mother is exact opposit to first mother. She was absolutely against her daughter's plastic surgery. She pulled a kitchen knife on herself and told her that if she didn't stop, she was going to take her own life and apologizing “I'm sorry that I gave birth to you with the face you don't like, but I won't allow you to do plastic surgery.” So now the second girl realized how awful she hurt her mother. But he kept saying mother's problem same as first example. I like his channel, but sometimes bad posts have misleading like this. He lived in Japan for many years but he still has to learn more. He needs more close Japanese friends and Japanese families if he wants to talk about real Japan.
@AirAnimeAngel
@AirAnimeAngel 6 месяцев назад
You know how messed up the normalization of plastic surgery everywhere(but especially in East Asia) is,when,in my opinion,the obsession with plastic surgery is even worse in South Korea. While the standard in Japan is high,looks wise,at least I can still pick out actors,actresses,singers etc. who look...human. In South Korea,I feel like,for the majority of people,that beauty standard is so high,it`s actually making so many celebrities appear IDENTICAL. Especially younger ones. Even when I`m watching Japanese dramas,I can see pores,scars etc. with Korean dramas,that`s SO rare. The amount of filter,brightening additions is just wild.
@Ajlez
@Ajlez 5 месяцев назад
If anyone tells you they DON'T want you to have a personality and they DON'T care what it is and ONLY your appearance matters, they don't have any business deciding what grants you value. I gave people like this power for a long time, even though I fought it internally, they still "killed" me again and again. One day I finally had the question in my mind, "When is it my turn to decide? For myself?" It's what we want since we're children, but we stuff it away for self protection, and the self protection is poison.
@Spearsa
@Spearsa 6 месяцев назад
Im worried that when she goes through puberty her eyelid surgery results may change (due to the body naturally changing) And that her mom is going to make her go through surgery again to fix it😭 I feel so sorry for children being forced like this😢
@ambiguoussarcasm
@ambiguoussarcasm 6 месяцев назад
I wouldn't be surprised if this is also one of the repercussions of the death of teenagehood, kids feeling preassure to grow up faster
@Taladar2003
@Taladar2003 6 месяцев назад
I don't usually like it when people blame things on social media but this is clearly made worse by the comparisons with people on social media (and magazines and TV before that).
@CCGtavern
@CCGtavern 6 месяцев назад
I couldn't even watch the documentary. As a parent, I've never been more disgusted.
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib 6 месяцев назад
then you go and vote for rights to children getting sex changes...
@travis-bs3bs
@travis-bs3bs 12 дней назад
Joey has to check the fact before posting. “the④ most high numbers of plastic surgery is Japan”? That's wrong. Here's the ranking.①South Korea②Argentina③Brazil④Colombia⑤Greece⑥US⑦Germany……⑭Japan. There's an another ranking①US②Brazil③Japan but this doesn't include countries like South Korea which has huge numbers of cosmetic surgery doctors. In Japan, antiageing like botox injection and laser hair removal is popular and is main numbers. This documentary picks it as Japanese trend now and leads wrong. Yes, the first mother is sick. But it's very rare case. Still plastic surgery is a negative image in Japan. If most Japanese parents watch this documentary, they would react like him. He also misunderstood Japanese and what was happening in the documentary. From the second girl's story, her mother is exact opposit to first mother. She was absolutely against her daughter's plastic surgery. She pulled a kitchen knife on herself and told her that if she didn't stop, she was going to take her own life and apologizing “I'm sorry that I gave birth to you with the face you don't like, but I won't allow you to do plastic surgery.” So now the second girl realized how awful she hurt her mother. But Joey kept saying mother's problem same as first example. I like his channel, but sometimes bad posts have misleading like this. He still has to learn more. He needs more close Japanese friends and Japanese families if he wants to talk about real Japan.
@imma2583
@imma2583 6 месяцев назад
Reminds me of when Bella Hadid said she regretted having a nose job at 14, one that was heavily encouraged and approved by her European mother, saying she would probably have grown into it. Broke my heart
@feitme
@feitme 6 месяцев назад
Her mom is awful. Have you watched the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills? Yolanda Hadid is on it for a bit (that I'm aware of) and she let one of her daughters only have a pinch-sized bite of birthday cake during the daughter's birthday party so she wouldn't get fat, and told a makeup artist to fix that daughter's eye makeup because she looked "too Chinese". Seriously messed up.
@AffinityShadow00
@AffinityShadow00 6 месяцев назад
What the fuck I have a 6r old and I would never do anything like this to her, also side note, my mom got breast implants cuz her mom and sister had more, and I'm adopted and at 16 she said she would get me some, and I was like let me see what I have? First? It's also why I try to appreciate my body even with my gray hair, I want my daughter to know that just being herself is more than enough, and my mom has bleaching her hair for decades, my heart goes out to that beautiful little girl 😔 she's perfect just the way she is🥰 sorry for the rant
@shreddedcheese6395
@shreddedcheese6395 6 месяцев назад
Hey I like your story and the fact you feel so comfortable in talking about it. I'm happy your motm wanted you to feel included but 100% should have done it in another way. Very happy about your pov on this ❤
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib 6 месяцев назад
you say all that, but vote for children to be able to get sex changes.
@shreddedcheese6395
@shreddedcheese6395 6 месяцев назад
@Pepe-dq2ib you and your argument is irrelevant
@oregonsenior4204
@oregonsenior4204 5 месяцев назад
AffinityShadow, you rant on! It's what I would have said, but better.
@simsalami
@simsalami 6 месяцев назад
It hurts me to see a child in this situation
@j0d13xxx
@j0d13xxx 6 месяцев назад
I had 2 cosmetic surgeries as a child (aged 9 & 10), I live in the UK and they were funded by NHS. I was severely bullied for my ears sticking out, and it wasn't just by kids at school, nor was it just verbal. No actions taken against the perpetrators or school, or words of assurance from a parent could stop trauma. It just isn't that simple. I am very thankful for the surgery, and to my mum who advocated for it. Also kids are exposed to beauty standards from day 1, it's pushed 24/7 with every advert, music video, influencer post, magazine, movie etc... it's only set to get worse the more media we consume (even when not actively seeking it i.e billboards).
@Sherrycake
@Sherrycake 6 месяцев назад
Me too! I had extreme dumbo ears, got bullied alot and when brushing thru my hair they would get caught on the brush which hurts. I was 9 too when i got the surgery. I had to do multiple interviews with the doctor and therapist ALONE without my mom to determine if it was my own choice and not my mothers choice!
@emilyjulia9178
@emilyjulia9178 6 месяцев назад
​@@Sherrycake I like the fact that you are wearing large elf ears while saying that. Kind of feels like you are embracing ears that stick out while still feeling happy about having regular ears in your day to day life.
@chiefbosnmate
@chiefbosnmate 6 месяцев назад
The evolution of your choices for your youtube channels have been outstanding, keep healthy and growing!! i'll keep watching
@random3263827
@random3263827 6 месяцев назад
Sad thing is that I know how much of an issue this is, not just in Japan but also in Korea and China, and I'm still having trouble watching this.
@nicky592
@nicky592 6 месяцев назад
I gotta say, im enjoying these longer videos ❤
@thehangmansdaughter1120
@thehangmansdaughter1120 6 месяцев назад
I'm probably one of the oldest (50) viewers of this channel. So believe me when I tell you to never place value on the opinions of people you don't like. Don't let their nasty opinions become your own. If you let those voices into your head they will be with you forever, with a never ending list of things you must "fix" about yourself. Don't become a slave to the opinions of people you don't even like. This my my advice.
@bestpriest2224
@bestpriest2224 6 месяцев назад
Thank you good sir/mam
@Laynefancypants
@Laynefancypants 6 месяцев назад
perfectly said :)
@Khaleesi_Jack
@Khaleesi_Jack 5 месяцев назад
Very well said, and thank you.
@JaneSarah-ji9pt
@JaneSarah-ji9pt 6 месяцев назад
Agree with everything you say, and appreciate how wonderfully blatant you are to the points you state. It's refreshing to listen to an opinion that isn't muted and from the heart. Always enjoy your content. I struggle to concentrate and used YT as background comfort. I always look up and listen when you cycle on (my algorithm I guess), because your engaging and genuine. Thank you for informative, interesting and subjective opinions. 🤘
@gimmekith07
@gimmekith07 6 месяцев назад
I used to be very insecure with my nose, it all started in my childhood with my mom and relative massaging my nose in hopes that when i get older, it’ll be pointier. This video rlly opened my eyes. I think it made me change my mind that i don’t need to get plastic surgery done :’)
@gimmekith07
@gimmekith07 6 месяцев назад
*older relatives
@tdelioncourt1268
@tdelioncourt1268 6 месяцев назад
If I had the money I'd have changed my nose when I was 20, I'm 30 today and it's so silly to me this has ever been a concern.
@Nonn0n
@Nonn0n 6 месяцев назад
I grew up fast and developed a lot of things I hate about myself. My mom told me that I could get surgery and such to remove these things. Naturally as a kid I was like “yeah lets do it!”. She showed me some videos of surgery and read me side effects of these surgeries. I got fucking scared out of it 😂 when I got older and could understand it more I chilled out.
@dt4654
@dt4654 6 месяцев назад
if people aren't such pusses about surgery in general, they would already be under the knife already.
@kagehikari4281
@kagehikari4281 6 месяцев назад
Did I miss something? 8:25 But who said the bulling came from kids at school? I would wager this bulling came from the mom and or relatives/adults/friends of family more so then school. And id double down that it was chiefly mom. My mom has criticized me quite offtin on how I look and especially my eyes so this really hits close to home. Im not asian, but for what ever reason, my mom complains I look like im sleeping when I look down or glaring when I squint and so forth or just mad when im just looking. Super super aggravating and has affected and hurt me more than she will ever know. Even my boss has misread my eyes recently for anger instead of intense hurt. I cant help how my eyes are. And the bags under them and stress dont help it.
@jinkinks
@jinkinks 6 месяцев назад
Looking at the comments on this it looks like everyone agrees that children shouldnt get plastic surgery, so why am i seeing people are allowing children to get puberty blockers, gender reasignment surgery, hormones just cuz the parents consented to it... How is this any further from these kinds of procedures? Both causes pain, long term effects, self esteem issues and probably mental trauma. Personally i am against any child to be medicated or go under the knife unless its due to health issues, (eg medication for chronic illness or plastic surgery for burn victims) Once they are adults and can think for themselves and wanna do this, all the power to them!! But children as young as 7-10 going for hormones?? Thats gonna mess with their growing bodies so much 💀
@lydiawilder5996
@lydiawilder5996 6 месяцев назад
It's not really a thing that is actually happening in any western countries. In the UK and US it is currently illegal for anyone under 16 without express parent and doctor consent to get any plastic surgery. Trans people have a medical condition which may necessitate some form of body altering surgery.
@jarotheboar8398
@jarotheboar8398 6 месяцев назад
If a child is injured (ex: broken leg, arm, or skull, etc) then its fine to give surgery to them, however, plastic surgery should NEVER be done to child If my family did this, you know the "FBI OPEN UP" meme is gonna be a reality
@TsukiNoInu93
@TsukiNoInu93 6 месяцев назад
I thibk you mean cosmetic surgery, plastic surgery is skin grafts/breast reduction/anything not to improve appeeance
@jarotheboar8398
@jarotheboar8398 6 месяцев назад
@@TsukiNoInu93 yeah, you're right
@TsukiNoInu93
@TsukiNoInu93 6 месяцев назад
@@jarotheboar8398 no problem, a lot of people use the term plastic surgery for cosmetic and plastic but it makes discussing the issue very hard.
@jarotheboar8398
@jarotheboar8398 6 месяцев назад
@@TsukiNoInu93 yeah, makes sense
@genevieveleblanc9205
@genevieveleblanc9205 6 месяцев назад
I'm White, and lived in Japan for a time when I was young. A lot of Japanese people would comment on my looks in public, often assuming I couldn't understand them. When it was clear I did, they'd just sort of double down with the comments though, especially older women, so there was no shame or embarrassment about it for them. When I went back to Japan recently on a vacation with my wife, I figured I wouldn't get those comments anymore as I'm now in my 30s and style myself in a much more masculine way. But I still overheard multiple conversations about my appearance. It's a strange experience, and really doesn't happen back home. I think it speaks to just how much focus is placed on looks in Japan. It's strange to be waiting in line for the bathroom and have two older ladies who are strangers strike up a conversation about my looks. As a foreigner, I know my looks don't align with Japanese beauty standards, and man are they ever strict. But aspiring to beauty above all else feels very normalized in the culture.
@kairos_fluent
@kairos_fluent 6 месяцев назад
Not to sound too nosy, but what specifically did they say about your looks ?
@genevieveleblanc9205
@genevieveleblanc9205 6 месяцев назад
@kairos_fluent the most common thing is that I'd just get called "美人" (bijin). I was often asked if my light brown hair hair colour was natural, and when I'd reply it is, that would get an "いいね~" which I always found a funny one because it's considered a very plain colour at home. Other than that and eye colour, I can't really remember too many specifics. Some people would insist I looked like celebrities that I don't look like at all. 美人 was always the word that made my ears perk up, especially when it was following 外人 (gaijin) and I was the only White girl standing there...
@kairos_fluent
@kairos_fluent 6 месяцев назад
@@genevieveleblanc9205 Ah I see, I get why they would say those types of things.
@Ashley-69420
@Ashley-69420 6 месяцев назад
No child should be allowed to get plastic surgery with or without parents permission! All that little girl should be worried about is toys and colouring
@aliabdallah2235
@aliabdallah2235 6 месяцев назад
Joey you misunderstood what the hostess was saying. The second mother was against her adult daughter's surgery. She pulled the knife as a protest that if her daughter does plastic surgery she will commit suicide. The daughter , who is an adult, did it anyway (or because of that to kill her mom).
@zhouyongkang5331
@zhouyongkang5331 6 месяцев назад
The same thing can be said for elective circumcision, which is a significant and widespread issue in the U.S. Currently, over half of male newborns undergo circumcision, despite it being a procedure that is medically unnecessary and lacking in tangible benefits. Moreover, there are notable risks associated with this practice. On top of all this is the fundamental rights issue that infants, unable to provide consent, undergo this procedure.
@Unsureshelby
@Unsureshelby 6 месяцев назад
9?! I’m half Asian and from Australia…I didn’t even realise I wasn’t white until I was like 9, so conceptualising that I didn’t meet beauty standards and wanting to drastically change it would not be the conclusion a normal 9 year old comes to by themselves. My only response to this is ughhh.
@yesthatmousyiris4887
@yesthatmousyiris4887 6 месяцев назад
I heard of folks in Korea getting plastic surgery appointments as a gift I was like wtf. The toxic beauty standards needs to be addressed
@ChoiiXMasters
@ChoiiXMasters 6 месяцев назад
Youre actually the first Guy i've seen, who does a Reaction and before starting the Video, recommend watching it on its own to support the original Channel, BIG UP for that my Bro ✌💚
@Smol_Rat
@Smol_Rat 6 месяцев назад
Imagine a child dying because of cosmetic surgery. Just because of the insecurity of the mother
@johnmartinez-valentin5427
@johnmartinez-valentin5427 6 месяцев назад
Sounds like you'll make a good parent in the future Joey
@Shizukanexen
@Shizukanexen 6 месяцев назад
I am surprised to only see you talk about this now. I remember when it was first released. It's so sad.
@fallowboy59
@fallowboy59 6 месяцев назад
Children at that age haven't even finished developing themselves physically so doing a plastic surgery at such a young age would be be detrimental to their motor development. How can a parent even suggest making a plastic surgery, it's just absurd and harmful for the child.
@janedoe7621
@janedoe7621 5 месяцев назад
I think the intent of the law is to allow children with facial growths or life-altering deformities to receive surgery to improve their quality of life. That it’s being abused like this is pretty gross.
@adriennedanehy-oakes9596
@adriennedanehy-oakes9596 6 месяцев назад
Gods this is horrible, the whole situation. Though I think, Joey, you misunderstood what was going on with the mother of the Hostess club woman. She stated up front her mother was AGAINST the plastic surgery the whole time, and that the knife thing was an angry reaction to her doing it in the first place. And her mom was right, she doesn't even look real anymore. The rest of this is absolute shit. Children should never be pressured into getting surgery unless it's to literally save their lives.
@xionmemoria
@xionmemoria 6 месяцев назад
And you're misunderstanding *him* The mother talked negatively about her own appearance, apologized for giving her child her features, and then pulled a shocked pikachu face when the daughter got plastic surgery. Mom 100% caused the issue.
@msold8671
@msold8671 5 месяцев назад
I always wanted to get rhinoplasty to change my nose (it has a bulbous tip)... but as i grew up i realized i had my dad's nose and i came to understand how features on our face give our faces character and it took me a long time but i now love my nose... wouldn't change it for the world.
@saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for brining this topic up, it's really fu**ed up for sure.
@ablepedro8586
@ablepedro8586 6 месяцев назад
When I was younger my parents especially my dad kept telling me to be skinny and flat, for years I hated how I looked even though at the time I was pretty skinny, some time passed I learned that nobody has any right to say how I should look, I learned to be happy with who I am and nobody can say anything that will change also I didn’t remain skinny getting older puts a toll on the body lol
@statesminds
@statesminds 6 месяцев назад
This is def abuse. I didnt even know double eyelid surgery was even a thing either, like how is anything wrong with her current eyelids. Thats such a weird thing to even tie to “beauty”. Ive never in my life thought about a girl i was datings eyelids lmao
@redflame300
@redflame300 6 месяцев назад
when you live in a society where there is a standard of beauty and its weird not to have something that everyone else has it'll always seem like a good idea to pursue it even at the cost of your health. especially if you can afford it. the gaslighting/peer pressure is real.
@PHjerome802
@PHjerome802 6 месяцев назад
I watched a lot of your videos but this one, 5-7mins in, pissed me off that I can't finish it. damn.
@StacieStreams
@StacieStreams 6 месяцев назад
I watched this recently and honestly made cry. It's so sad that at an early age not to have a normal childhood.
@connormarshall1272
@connormarshall1272 6 месяцев назад
the only instance where plastic surgery should be acceptable for anyone under the age of 18 is for medical reasons, NEVER cosmetic. (eg. some nose jobs are performed to help people who can't breath properly)
@xionmemoria
@xionmemoria 6 месяцев назад
You're confusing a rhinoplasty with a septoplasty. A "nose job" is a rhinoplasty and only affects the shape of the outer portion of the nose. If it affects breathing, it's affecting the septum and is thus a septoplasty.
@6telephone
@6telephone 5 месяцев назад
The issue is that men in Japan also demand women to be beautiful. They argue that good looking equates to good personality.
@travis-bs3bs
@travis-bs3bs 12 дней назад
Joey has to check the fact before posting. “the④ most high numbers of plastic surgery is Japan”? That's wrong. Here's the ranking.①South Korea②Argentina③Brazil④Colombia⑤Greece⑥US⑦Germany……⑭Japan. There's an another ranking①US②Brazil③Japan but this doesn't include countries like South Korea which has huge numbers of cosmetic surgery doctors. In Japan, antiageing like botox injection and laser hair removal is popular and is main numbers. This documentary picks it as Japanese trend and leads wrong. Yes, the mother is sick. But it's very rare case. Still plastic surgery is negative image in Japan. If most Japanese parents watch this documentary, they would react like him. He lived in Japan for many years but he still has to learn more. He needs more close Japanese friends and Japanese families.
@travis-bs3bs
@travis-bs3bs 12 дней назад
Joey also misunderstood Japanese and what was happening in the documentary. From the second girl's story, her mother is exact opposit to first mother. She was absolutely against her daughter's plastic surgery. She pulled a kitchen knife on herself and told her that if she didn't stop, she was going to take her own life and apologizing “I'm sorry that I gave birth to you with the face you don't like, but I won't allow you to do plastic surgery.” So now the second girl realized how awful she hurt her mother. But Joey kept saying mother's problem same as first example. I like his channel, but sometimes bad posts have misleading like this.
@GardenGangster85
@GardenGangster85 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing this Joey
@travis-bs3bs
@travis-bs3bs 12 дней назад
Joey has to check the fact before posting. “the④ most high numbers of plastic surgery is Japan”? That's wrong. Here's the ranking.①South Korea②Argentina③Brazil④Colombia⑤Greece⑥US⑦Germany……⑭Japan. There's an another ranking①US②Brazil③Japan but this doesn't include countries like South Korea which has huge numbers of cosmetic surgery doctors. In Japan, antiageing like botox injection and laser hair removal is popular and is main numbers. This documentary picks it as Japanese trend now and leads wrong. Yes, the first mother is sick. But it's very rare case. Still plastic surgery is a negative image in Japan. If most Japanese parents watch this documentary, they would react like him. He also misunderstood Japanese and what was happening in the documentary. From the second girl's story, her mother is exact opposit to first mother. She was absolutely against her daughter's plastic surgery. She pulled a kitchen knife on herself and told her that if she didn't stop, she was going to take her own life and apologizing “I'm sorry that I gave birth to you with the face you don't like, but I won't allow you to do plastic surgery.” So now the second girl realized how awful she hurt her mother. But Joey kept saying mother's problem same as first example. I like his channel, but sometimes bad posts have misleading like this. He still has to learn more. He needs more close Japanese friends and Japanese families if he wants to talk about real Japan.
@johnnypollack3243
@johnnypollack3243 6 месяцев назад
Keep up the awesome work and videos Joey love the video
@ariamath336
@ariamath336 6 месяцев назад
The beauty standards in Japan is insanely toxic, as a girl growing up with a Japanese mother constantly telling me I don't "look" good enough by the Japanese standards really messed me up over the years and I find myself still trying to rewire my brain. She would literally tell me what surgery I should get every time she looked at me, starting at age 8. Even relatives would "joke" about certain features like being too tan, having a "big" face, ugly smile, or being 54kg (chubby apparently) and I'm pretty tall, and those 'jokes' are very common even between friends, it's ingrained in society
@travis-bs3bs
@travis-bs3bs 12 дней назад
Joey has to check the fact before posting. “the④ most high numbers of plastic surgery is Japan”? That's wrong. Here's the ranking.①South Korea②Argentina③Brazil④Colombia⑤Greece⑥US⑦Germany……⑭Japan. There's an another ranking①US②Brazil③Japan but this doesn't include countries like South Korea which has huge numbers of cosmetic surgery doctors. In Japan, antiageing like botox injection and laser hair removal is popular and is main numbers. This documentary picks it as Japanese trend now and leads wrong. Yes, the first mother is sick. But it's very rare case. Still plastic surgery is a negative image in Japan. If most Japanese parents watch this documentary, they would react like him. He also misunderstood Japanese and what was happening in the documentary. From the second girl's story, her mother is exact opposit to first mother. She was absolutely against her daughter's plastic surgery. She pulled a kitchen knife on herself and told her that if she didn't stop, she was going to take her own life and apologizing “I'm sorry that I gave birth to you with the face you don't like, but I won't allow you to do plastic surgery.” So now the second girl realized how awful she hurt her mother. But he kept saying mother's problem same as first example. I like his channel, but sometimes bad posts have misleading like this. He lived in Japan for many years but he still has to learn more. He needs more close Japanese friends and Japanese families if he wants to talk about real Japan.
@Brookklynswan
@Brookklynswan 6 месяцев назад
I had a minor cosmetic procedure done when I was five. I had a mole removed from my eyelid that wasn't causing me any issues, but it bothered me so much when people would think it was a bug or something and try to touch my face to get it off. It was solely my choice to get it done, I begged, and it greatly helped my self confidence as a small kiddo. And even tho it was extremely minor, 25 years later I still have a scar on my eyelid from it. These choices are *permanent* and while sometimes it is okay to alter a child's appearance to help with their confidence, drastically changing it is only going to make them think they aren't good enough.
@LittleSparklingStars
@LittleSparklingStars 6 месяцев назад
bro someone I know has had an ear reduction when he was a small child. Now he got tiny ears as an adult.
@shuaiyuan5014
@shuaiyuan5014 6 месяцев назад
I'm glad someone said something about this, and with valid points as well. I'm from China, and it has a similar culture about beauty standards. Coming from the same situation( pressure from piers and parent), I feel relief that my family wasn't able to afford the surgery at that point during my teenage years. My eyes are just a little bit hooded btw. After gone through using cosmetics like eyelid glue and double eyelid tapes( sounds ridiculous just by typing them out), I started accepting my look after hearing my kid asking what's on my eyes. And also not to care about the beauty trend online. Internet is just internet. Life is so much bigger than just looks. It's hurts to see a kid gone through this, and sad that the mom hasn't realised the trauma she's been through. Thanks for making this video.
@lllucasm
@lllucasm 6 месяцев назад
I live in Japan for almost 20 years and I'll never understand their obsession with double eyelids, also it looks so weird on this 9 year old kid because she's supposed to look like a kid but now she looks sleepy all the time because her appearance is not developed yet, what's next, make the M shaped lips? it's also annoying to see that they ignore the big chunk of people who are against this obsession with changing your appearance when you look great already
@redflame300
@redflame300 6 месяцев назад
its the western standard of beauty that got popularized in their country.
@xHOTxCHOCOxFUDGEx
@xHOTxCHOCOxFUDGEx 6 месяцев назад
I’m Korean and I have extremely sensitive eyes. My eyelids kind of curve inward and my eyelashes have been scratching my cornea in both eyes since I was little. It really hurts when an eyelash gets stuck under my eyelids. I’ve considered getting double eyelid surgery, but it’s too expensive and I don’t like the thought of being awake during the procedure. I get stared at a lot by some kids at first and they always ask me why my eyes are shaped weird. I work at a daycare. Kids have called me ugly several times.
@redflame300
@redflame300 6 месяцев назад
kids can be the worst.
@morbid333
@morbid333 6 месяцев назад
"What's wrong with me wanting her to look cuter?" That kind of makes the kid sound like a fashion accessory
@captaindanger13
@captaindanger13 6 месяцев назад
this girl isn't even fully grown yet. why would any medical professional let her go through with this? whatever happened to "do no harm"????
@PadawanKestis
@PadawanKestis 6 месяцев назад
No child should be getting surgery to change the way they look UNLESS it for a medical issue/reason. I hated the way I look as a kid and I was bullied for it. during my last 4 years of high school I gave up caring on what others think of me but c'mon she is 9-years-old and SHOULD NEVER have this done and to me is it child abuse
@GinBake
@GinBake 6 месяцев назад
This is genuinely an issue that really needs to be addressed. I have nieces and nephews in korea and with idol and beauty culture growing, ive noticed in the past decade alone that beauty standards among youth has been growing out of control. My neice whos only 8 is putting on makeup and exercising to lose weight (shes not even overweight or anything) due to the pressure of her peers. She has this constant need to get the latest things, and look as much as possible to an adult. Frankly, it is so disturbing to see these kids who havent even learned multiplication, asking for makeup and thinking of plastic surgery. Ive always been anti idol culture for this sole reason. Musical communities are fine but the fact that the industry shoves these unhealthy images of what a person should look like is a bigger problem than what it seems
@GinBake
@GinBake 6 месяцев назад
Another thing is the normalization in beauty shaming in asian culture. Since a baby is out of the womb, theyre constantly corrected and pointed out their every flaw. Its fucked up and is the reason why eating disorders are so prevalent amongst asians
@bruna7534
@bruna7534 6 месяцев назад
The way she said "enduring the pain of surgery" and later that "anesthetic wasn't working well" made my blood freeze. Kinda, she literally had to endure the pain of having her eyelids cut open at that age and she is CERTAINLY traumatizing by that. That made me worry a little more when she cried a little when her mom was doing something on her eyes saying "oh, it's ok, it's not actually painful"
@jazi-san4563
@jazi-san4563 5 месяцев назад
Good for you to speak on this subject.
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