I've never heard this on Ham Radio bands | Horror on 3Y0J Bouvet Dxpedition frequency 

In my 55 years as an Amateur radio operator , I have never heard a fight on CW ....

Thank you for raising this issue, Raisa. I heard it myself and couldn't believe what was going on... Thanks to the crew of the Bouvet DXpedition and keep up the good work!

Thank you Raisa for Posting. I really love my hobby. I’ve made so many friends all over the world who are good, kind and decent. But! As in this awful world we now live in, it only takes a few bad people to effect the many good ones. After hearing this disgusting behaviour over the past few days, I seriously considered just selling my Station and giving up. But why should I? If I do then those bad people have won and I lose out on something I truly enjoy.. So I’m staying here to spread the friendship and compassion which is the true blessing of Amateur Radio. No matter what the politicians and power crazy freaks in this world try to manipulate for their own gain, Radio Amateurs will always be the hand of friendship over borders, countries and cultures that no one can destroy! 73 & Thank you Nick G0HFL

Thanks for this reminder, Raisa, about the split frequency and basic ham behaviour! Some forget, in their excitement, that the first rule of ham radio operation, is LISTEN !

I've been into cb radio since 1979,ham radio since 1984, got my ham licence in 1986. But in 2023 I am using cb radio more. Sad times for ham radio.

this is the type of thing that is turning me off from HAM radio, I barely turn my radio on anymore because people are just acting like children.

Raisa, there are many words in Russian as well as in other languages to describe what is happening with Bouvet in the pileups. In America we use the word " lid " or " lids " to describe poor operators. Thank you for posting and expressing your disapproval with this type of conduct. Take care!

I heard two different pile ups on the same frequency several times last weekend. There was 3 contests going on the same weekend. The pile ups couldn't hear each other. I was in the middle and heard them both a few times. A Canadian station was working a pileup and a Puerto Rican station was working a pileup. It was crazy and nobody complained. They weren't interfering with each other.

Dear Raissa, thank you very much for your videos. I like your videos because you also convey a soulful and sympathetic Ham-Radio culture that some have unfortunately lost. One can learn a lot from you. Best regards from Munich! vy 73! de DK1RL Stefan (Steve)

Thanks for taking the time to speak about this.

73 from Brasil 🇧🇷👍😎 TMJ

Well said Raisa. There are times like this when I'm convinced that the code of conduct doesn't exist in many shacks. My shack is only a small 100w max station and so many times have I tried to reach a DX pedition station only to find others coming over the top of them who are not interested in the DX ped station. You can start to understand why so many are getting away from SSB Phone and going to digital modes when this sort of thing is going on.

Congrats to all who keep Ham Radio dignified and cordial. I remember fondly when CB radio had some integrity.....NO one sweared. Now look what has happened to CB radio channels. You cant even monitor them in the car with children. Is Ham Radio going in that direction??

As the saying goes "Two ears, one mouth. Use in that ratio".

This kind of behavior is what has driven me to local VHF and UHF stuff, and I've been a HAM since I was 10 years old (1960). A lot of really bad actors have taken over amateur radio, many just rude, others with world domination agendas. A very different hobby these days than when I would run phone patches from otherwise unreachable places in the world. Anyway, thanks for speaking honestly about the bad guys.

Thank you for bringing this up on your channel. Please, fellow operators, listen and respect the code of conduct.

Однажды, во время одного из пайлапов, мне даже предложили пойти на другую частоту "разобраться"😂 Когда люди держат кнопку передачи без остановки и даже вызывающему не дают слова сказать - работать в такой свалке не доставляет совершенно никакого удовольствия. Ну ведь есть же регламент, в конце-то концов🙄

Thanks for posting this. This ALWAYS happens during a big DXpidition. The last time was Heard island. The two biggest problems are well meaning people who dont know what they are doing and second.. licensed hams who have personality disorders and just want to make people angry for there amusement. Never transmit on the same frequency that you hear the dxpidition calling. They always work SPLIT frequencies. Look in your manual and see how to work split. The people who are jamming HAVE NO shame. You cannot make them ashamed of what they are doing. If you try to call them out on the air..you are just making things worse.

I have not been able to make contact with 3Y0J in any mode but a friend not to far from where I am made contact in CW and he told me it was a total mess, om insulting each others, not respecting split and even other stations gave signal report to faulty station so they could move away... that's sad to see the lack of respect and so many station not listening to calling instructions...

I'm trying to listen to 3Y0J since they are active and can't listen to them due to the strong QRM on their main frequency, DXPeditions usualy works in split mode 5 to 10 up to be readable for anyone. To many stations are trying to do simplex contacts and then ruined the opportunity for other to make the contact... You right Raisa, Listen first to transmit and read and follow the traffic rules as available on the expedition website prior to try to work them... 73 from F5GEB

The best looking radio operator I’ve ever seen. 73👋🏻

Thanks for building this video. I would hope it change with time. But it was already like that 20 years ago. That's why I left radio several time. But in the end, HAM behavior is the same as in our society. I came back thanks to FT8 mode where DQRM is much harder toi be efficient. 73's

I had a qso with Japan, and one EA station constantly calling over our signal without listening. I could not hear my signal report while the station from Japan was very strong. I try to make contacts barefoot with experimental antennas but it is very hard with people transmitting their call 2,3 or 4 in one. Keep up the good work and 73 pd5rv

As one of my many Elmer's taught me, listen, listen, and lesten some more before you make a call, this gives you the opportunity to learn how the other station is operating and the ebb and flow.

Raisa, this is the most important advice, listen, 3 times! Plus, I think with a new ham one of the first things to teach them is what split means in the simplest of terms. I have been a ham for almost 40 years and I learned what split was way back in the beginning and the purpose of it. It makes it so much easier for the DX stations to manage the sea of voices! Everyone wants to have their voice heard but it is the most important to listen on the frequency before one speaks. All we can do is keep preaching to be great ambassadors of our wonderful hobby. You are an inspiration to our great life long hobby. 73, Daniel AB5VJ from Pennsylvania on the mountain top! ;-)

It's like everyday life, the world is going crazy !

Sounded like channel 38 lsb on the cb band...lol.... They should bring back code requirement in the states. It would keep alot of idiots off the air. Worse thing they ever did was drop the code requirement

Raisa, my son, N5CSK, and I have this same problem at times with a simple POTA activation. Some hams are sorely lacking in common courtesy. Thanks for posting. 73 de AA6X

its sad that this can happen on such a great DXpedition the lady has good advice !!!

The uber-competitive in any hobby can sour it for newcomers. I respect those that want out there and did what they could!

It gets so frustrating hearing people repeating their call over and over again and it is just so rude and is bully tactics. In UK we have a saying "Every dog has it's day" meaning that if we are patient enough then our time will come. Everybody needs to respect each other and listen and give call when an opportunity arises then listen for station to come back. Well said Raisa, best 73 to you.

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Years ago when I was much younger and well before the internet, the lower ham bands were a battlefield. Many big stations running kilowatts would park on a frequency claiming it belongs to them. They would chase you off. You could not find a few kilohertz of open space to operate. You could monitor a frequency for hours or days thinking it’s clear. As soon as you transmit a CQ, a big gun station would blast a strong signal to you and tell you the frequency is in use. If you try to ignore them, then one of his buddies will start a QSO to step all over your signal until you got off the air. Nothing has changed.

excellent point well raised Raisa, been stepped over for any sort of dx contact is what led me to unplug my mic many years ago, i now only operate digital modes, my personal experience that sent me this way was a american station in New York refusing to believe my signal report because he was using 1.5 kw and my signal report was not what he expected, @ the time my power output my on my M6 license of 10w ,and i was giving him 5&9, and he was giving my 5&7, the same with breaking into a VP8LP ssb pileup people NOT listening to Bob when he was asking for areas that were not Italy or America, sad so sad, now my antenna is a Ultrabeam 2 element i rarely move its position as i can work the world on 100w digital ,and even win contests with it , 73's & 88's Raisa de Kevin

We see this behavior on TV, in Congress, on the news, and everyday in traffic. I’m not surprised we are seeing more and more on the ham bands.

New ham here. I am in an urban area and have a really high noise floor, and I'm worried about this being me just because I'm too deaf to tell if a frequency is in use. Any advice?

I listened to it in the Czech Republic, it was very sad ..... :( 73! OK1TCM

Wow..... Well good luck getting Bouvet anyhow! I'm in California and can only operate on 10 meters, but I'm still going to try. Maybe I'll have luck on FT8. Good luck!

Love this hobby. Sometimes people not so much.

New ham here I made this mistake one time started calling with out listening someone set me straight LOL very glad they did. Its actually made things easier.

Something similar happen to me when doing POTA a few weeks ago. I was calling CQ, when someone was telling me their signal report and saying gibberish. Very annoying, but you must press on - can't let these individuals ruin your day. Like your new look Raisa. :)

That sounded like a Saturday night in Rockingham County VA in the 90's on 11 meter!!!!!

Got my Novice Ticket in 71', and my General around 76'. My "time to leave" came when during the Space Shuttle Program and some Stations were kind enough to rebroadcast some Shuttle Audio (pre-Challanger), I heard some guy who just couldn't accept that a small bit of the band was being used for this purpose, say "I hope the thing blows up!".

happy to see you are on the bands, will look for you kl4gu be polite to each other first rule of amateur radio thANK YOU YL and forgive my all caps , dang button

It's the saw on CW. Crazy....you'd think that the rarity of Bouvet and the fact that so many would like to make contact that people would be orderly so as many people can work them. They're only going to be there a short time...maybe on DXpedetions like this the crew heading to the location should set up some kind of lottery or number scheme and when your number comes up it's your turn....like standing in line at the bakery. Take a number and wait your turn.

It's called a pileup. Part of the problem is that not all stations can hear one another and think the frequency is clear.

I was unable to work them since I did not hear them much on SSB. When I did the behavior of some hams was so atrocious that I decided to pass. Feel sorry for those guys at Bouvet that tried to give us a new DX country. Sad day for ham radio!

I always love your posts. Blessings to you 🙏

When I was new to HF, I made the split mistake once. Then at others urging, I looked up in my manual how to do it. It's not difficult at all, so there is no excuse to make the mistake more than once, ever, in the worst case! There are also a few good YT videos on how split works between the two stations. (I like this one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-srIs_X61dGU.html from QRP School channel). I'm glad they are also promoting that if you make one contact, let some others give it a try. I am on 100W endfed wire. It's hard enough, and harder against everyone with their 1500W 27 el beam blasting away for their 10th QSO. Don't get too greedy. Great reminder, Raisa. 73

Raisa, You called them voices. In America we call them "lids" a historic ham radio term

This has always been this way, and is why I never chase dx pile ups. Good to see you , take care .

Hi Raisa. It is crazy some of the bad behaviors I have heard on the HF bands. I am an avid DXer and this happens more than I wish it would!!

I have been a ham radio operator for a long time, starting when i was 14 years old. Unfortunately this was not just an issue of listening or not, it is dQRM or deliberate QRM (interference). These people did not want this DXpedtion to be successful, they didn't want other hams to make a QSO with 2nd most rare DXCC entity. I heard language I thought I would never hear on the ham bands. Even on CW, which many old timers believe is the true gentlemen's mode, well you would never know it! On 30m CW I had he audio gain up hoping to hear Bouvet and then someone either tuning or holding the key down endlessly would blow my ears apart. I don't like getting angry but these op's took all he joy out of chasing this DXpedition. And on top of this, were horrible, selfish, bad comments on DX Summit.

I was unable to participate with the DXpedition this time as myself and other club members were unfamiliar with how to fox hunt on FT8. We set up our own training session to be able to figure this out and it was great fun. While it would be cool to log DXCC QSO's, I am more interested in learning how to improve my operating efficiency with my old, hybrid radio. The event of easy to use appliances is ruining the hobby. We no longer have operators, the CB world has invaded with their high power amplifiers and self-aggrandizing, bombastic attitudes. It will eventually sort itself out, but it will take time. 73's - KD2USM

We need CW test back for ham radio license(even only 5WPM) , it's too easy to become a ham today

My microphone lives in my car now, and I use my transceiver as a shortwave receiver. The self importance of ham radio!

At first I thought you were listening to the trolls on 7200 kHz. Instead of QSL cards, I should make some QRM cards to send to lids who tune up on frequency. 😀

Absolutely agree denis F5PXF.

I cant argue with a thing you have said.... Years ago I got yelled at myself

Raisa, you just have to be patient. Another better organized expedition will come along in a few years and you will be in the log. Your amateur radio videos are very good and provide very good publicity for the hobby. Ian, HS0ZGL

In America, they are called "no code" hams. Dumbed down ham radio.

This why I operate CW !

So sorry for the QRM you got. I only tried on FT8, and unfortunately didn't make it in by your closing time about 19:00 UTC, 12/Feb/2023. Best wishes for a safe trip home. K1OKS

You make excellent points, but what I heard on 15M and 17M wasn't just due to newbies, lids and the Band Police. There was a lot of willful and nasty interference too. I also heard a guy on 17M who was answering and confirming contacts from stations calling on the DX's calling frequency - even though 3Y0J explicitly said they would be operating split - and you could hear the pile-up up about 5kHz! I finally gave up. I can understand ignorance and/or inexperience, but I just don't get the horrible behavior. Thanks for the video. 73.

Very Nicely done! Thank you! KO6TX

thats why FT8 is so relaxing

Раиса все супер! Подписался! Если бы не 3Y0J не нашел бы Ваш канал! 73 & 88

Thank you for this video! It's shocking behavior.

Yeah am SWL also.) Thanks for the video Raisa. 73!

Just a bit of courtesy goes a long way. I hope they don’t drive on roads like this😂

Listen is a good advice all the time, but especially when these people are trying to do something real special with all the hardship they have to endure in order to do this DXpedition! If this keeps up there will not be any more because people don't want to put up with this nonsense! You tell them Raisa and thank you for bringing this up to everyone. LISTEN!

There are so many horrible operators. The don’t listen first, not courteous of others and just like to cause QRM. We just need to make sure we practice good operating principles regardless of the frustrations. If it gets too frustrating for me I just walk away for a while. It is not worth getting upset. It is just a hobby. 73’s from Rick KS9V

Hi YL, yes our global bands are indeed saturated with comms like this, but remember the global conflicts we’re all in right now… this leads always to disorganized chaotic emissions - especially when grid-tied comms are no longer trusted nor reliable. Don’t lose your spirit over it… there’s a few in every crowd. Just know it’s just a handful of immature people by contrast… they go away after awhile and pick up some other hobby when they get bored of being ignored. The rest of us however are always around. Keep the spirit alive and know it’s just a handful. It’s people like you who are important to us globally.

Thank you, Raisa, for the new video!

The expedition, after fighting the wind (and some still wrestling with the concept that maybe they should act like Hams and not do-it-for-me passengers), has likewise been 72'd (all I can think of - having recently heard the LID show on 7200kHz) - WZ0L

I just stumbled upon this video and channel. It is pretty amazing how many people are just in it for the rare DX. I hope to make contact with YL Raisa in the future but I need an equipment upgrade first! 73s to everybody!

It looks like poeple even know their own call-sign enymore. Everybody keeps on calling even when the dx-station is talking. Indeed listen, listen so you dont have to ask his call-sign or even shout on a wrong(split) frequency.

Raisa, you make a good point. Newer Hams often don't have rigs that allow them to work "split" mode, and I think that this is a problem. There is also a " my toy truck is bigger than your toy truck, so there!" mentality. There are also a lot of "angry" people in the World. I have noticed this especially post pandemic: Very aggressive , wreckless driving as I observe every day on my commute to the hospital where I work. And sadly, YES on the air. We have all been through a terrible time, and a lot of what you see (and hear!) Is, I think..post traumatic stress syndrome, manifesting itself in millions of people who have lost someone in the World. Indeed, it has touched every family.. A sense of powerlessness. We MUST remember that Roman Society didn't value things like compassion. We MUST not devolve. God sent his only Son to teach us. We can do better and BE better. In a World where Nuclear War threatens to engulf us all. If you are not religiously inclined, I quote from the movie "Things to Come" the 1936 film by H.G. Wells (and available for watching for free on RU-vid... Have you viewed it? If not, you should!): "And we, who are all that is left of the old engineers and mechanics, are turning our hands to salvage the world. We have the air waves, what is left of them, we have the sea. We have ideas in common; the freemasonry of efficiency--the brotherhood of science. We are the natural trustees of civilization when everything else has failed." All the Best! 73 DE W8LV BILL (and W8LV/VE3 prepandemic) 🇨🇦🇺🇸✝️☦️ Pray, and don't JUST Pray. Instead? Make it happen. WE are the International Ambassadors. All of us. ALL of us!

I recoginized one of the Italian stations calling lol. This is a very big, dangerous and difficult expedition. I hope to work them. I currently don't see any spots for them at this time. that is good for me because I am still at work haha.

This Is why i do ft8 and other Digital modes

0:58 (DJ9UN/LX1UN) An 80m idiot policeman pretending to be a DXmen. A policeman who even guards the island of BOUVET😅

Many operators don't understand how to operate split. Guess they skipped that part of their training.

I always listen listen to Raisa

Your 100% Correct, but it happens, some ham's forget the rules, this bothers me too, 88's

It's very sad that's why I never went for my licence... But I still want it ❤️💯

Hello Raisa, the same Situation on FT8 !!!

The other thing that I absolutely hate is when stations tune on my frequency. If you want to work a station, move away a few kHz and tune there instead of blasting every other station off the band on my end.

You're exactly right, the bad ops are making ham radio look bad☹️But it's ONLY becuz of them, the ones who shouldn't even have a license, not the good, respectful ops, who, despite the DX challenge, are always humble & practice the best of operating protocol; 73 de WA4ELW in TN 🇺🇸 dit dit 😃

WTF with the operator´s??? this is a shame the Bouvet peopple working hard for all, and this crazy operator´s doit that!

Oh, Raisa, I'd rather radio with you and drink a good cup of coffee. HI 73 and 88 de HB9DTC

If do get a anytone at5555 10 meter radio or 11 meter radio YL Raisa you might get a chance talk on 27mhzs SSB or 26MHZ fm on skip.

amazing ... very bad situation !!! '73 de IV3GKY

You are most correct. 3Y0J barely audible here but QRM is very loud.

I hear this very often ... sadly. Especially in the weekend, sometimes someone wakes up to call CQ over a QSO in progress like they just don't care. Zero respect sometimes from some of the stations.

20 лет назад сработал с Буве (1 QSO на 20 метрах SSB), поэтому внял призыву экспедиционеров "не звать, если уже остров Буве в журнале". По прошествии времени читаю на Форуме восторженные высказывания о том, как наши аксакалы от радио провели с этой экспедицией связи на 5 диапазонах в CW, SSB и FT8. Для себя заключил: "Ham spirit умер"

В наш узкий круг не каждый попадал....!73...88 RA3YV/Alex

The behavior of the international community at this event, among others, should serve to reflect on what amateur radio has become today.

Bravo! Nicely stated ❤️

Most DXpedition when SSB mode must be Split , this 3Y0J is most wanted , i also monitor waiting when hear to Indonesia de YB0DJ

Is this Ham Spirit? Oh my god ! 🤦 Crocodiles are the death of Ham Radio 😢