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I've Ranked Guild Wars 2's Best Mysteries & Outstanding Plot Threads 

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@HunHaze
@HunHaze 2 года назад
Mystery tier list aka WP struggles for 30 minutes loving the game and wanting to put everything in S-rank.
@dirkstam0511
@dirkstam0511 2 года назад
You can also tell from how he's constantly defending himself from criticism we couldn't possibly have given yet hahaha
@WoodenPotatoes
@WoodenPotatoes 2 года назад
I hope you guys are still having fun with these!
@marnixpeeters2675
@marnixpeeters2675 2 года назад
Bruh. Bruhbruhbruh. Keep these coming and I might just decide to go to that patreon for the first time lmao
@ivanvicente8972
@ivanvicente8972 2 года назад
You forgot the biggest misery of them all right now! Where's Brahams bow? 😂😂😂 Loving the tier lists keep it up!
@mattd5857
@mattd5857 2 года назад
Loving this sort of content for the amount of discussion it provides. Speaking of, I am shocked you omitted Lyssa and her scheming apart from the rest of the gods.
@warisprofit1427
@warisprofit1427 2 года назад
Make a ranking video of living world maps. Best metas, currencies, atmosphere, design, etc. That would ve fun!!
@patriciaboucher6185
@patriciaboucher6185 2 года назад
I'm really hoping that the devs will use EoD to reintroduce the dwarves. Although I realize that it's a long shot, imagine them as a playable race... How fantastic that would be. "Many years ago, far to the south in Cantha, relics of a mysterious race, possibly an offshoot of the Deldrimor dwarves, were uncovered in the Aurios Mines of the Jade Sea. This is the only indication of any dwarven presence on the southern continent, and remains unexplained to this day."
@paulogomes663
@paulogomes663 2 года назад
Ok the Dominion of Winds is cool and all, but we know where it is and we can base what we see on the tarnished coast to think what's inside. However there's a race present in the beginning of the game that we have no idea of where they come from... THE LARGOS
@andrescoloma6652
@andrescoloma6652 2 года назад
YES!
@alexb277
@alexb277 2 года назад
I believe we will see a lot of them in EoD, since they were pushed from the depth with kraits and quaggans by bubble
@Pinekiwi
@Pinekiwi 2 года назад
I really hope we learn something about the Krait Blue Orb in EOD
@christmascactus1882
@christmascactus1882 2 года назад
Mist Stranger is a reflection of the Commander, who gets lost in the Mists some time in the future. You heard it here first.
@blackfire579
@blackfire579 2 года назад
I was having similar thoughts to this as well. Totally see them going in this direction
@ghostymytoasty7007
@ghostymytoasty7007 2 года назад
I actually think this mystery should of been worth a mention. What is the story behind balthazar and the other gods? Why does he have Lyssa's mirror, why did he curse all of the gods except for Lyssa?
@RbDaP
@RbDaP 2 года назад
they bangin' I'm sure
@JoshSweetvale
@JoshSweetvale 2 года назад
@@RbDaP Well yuh. War and politics.
@raquetdude
@raquetdude 2 года назад
Three other mysteries that could have been added. The origins of the Colossus and Largos are two mystery’s along with the mysterious blue ball that repelled the Risen in the Personal Story. Also where the next SAB level is lol
@bassrelic5030
@bassrelic5030 2 года назад
Did not watch the video yet but I assume the floating wizards tower is on top of the list 😂😀
@Tallacus
@Tallacus 2 года назад
I need to know more about the Largos as a race, no doubt they had something to do with the DSD and I also want to know about the Pale Tree herself post Mordremoth finding out what the relationship is between them. Like is Mordremoth really the granddaddy of the all the plant races of Tyria?
@ambrant7422
@ambrant7422 2 года назад
The biggest mystery of all is why there's still a gaping hole larger than the Great Collapse between the Personal Story and Season 2 for new players to fall into.
@Abarex
@Abarex 2 года назад
If Anet covers everything you put in this tierlist for the remainder of gw2, I believe we'll have years of content to come. Im not too sure what they have planned after the new expansion, because there's a lot of missing threads, but it would definitely please the fanbase and give more content to players
@FinalShieldnobi
@FinalShieldnobi 2 года назад
Lyssa's Mirror and her ties to Balthazar, the separate world of mushrooms merged with ours in Jahai Bluffs, the Largos in general, and the Krait too. I'd personally like a follow up to the Awakened Sylvari you meet during All or Nothing too.
@lovebus00
@lovebus00 2 года назад
Bring Largos back! I think they might since they made an appearance in the Skimmer diving questing.
@Chupakazul
@Chupakazul 2 года назад
Here's a wild one for you - Aurene's name means "golden" in Latin - what if the "dragon heart" in Pyrite peninsula is actually Aurene's - after some weird, timey-wimey stuff happens (potentially in End of Dragons itself, and maybe even related to "Mother")? Honestly, otherwise her name seems kind of out of place since she's not golden-colored (and no longer even blue), but prismatic.
@FlynnZer0
@FlynnZer0 2 года назад
Balth wasn't mentioned? Is he dead? Is there still Six gods? Was that Menzies pretending to be Balth? GW1 Wiki: Menzies the Mad, also known as the Lord of Destruction, is the evil half-brother of Balthazar. Though never seen, he commands the Shadow Army and other shadow related creatures such as the Darknesses. He seeks to usurp Balthazar in order to gain Balthazar's powers and take control of the Fissure of Woe.
@thelyssamysterygw2439
@thelyssamysterygw2439 2 года назад
The Parable of Lyssa suggests that Balthazar is still around.
@swanofnutella4734
@swanofnutella4734 2 года назад
Malyck: Was it not suggested that he comes from the tree that eventually becomes the corrupted "blighted depths" tree in VB?
@alexblack4048
@alexblack4048 2 года назад
the wiki specifically says his tree isnt any of the blighting trees in the heart of maguuma
@bassrelic5030
@bassrelic5030 2 года назад
SoooOOooo Gargoyles disappearing is of no concern to anyone? :O - Would love to see some kind of explanation on this - I think that is a "Mystery" the devs could really play with and make up a funny story about.
@RPGCrash
@RPGCrash 2 года назад
Around when the first halloween happened and in the dev stream someone asked why the gargoyles are in the mad lab and why they look so different, and the devs whoever they were seemed kind of confused and said something along the lines of "we just thought they were a cool spooky enemy" i dont think theyre thinking about the gargoyles seriously.
@bassrelic5030
@bassrelic5030 2 года назад
@@RPGCrash that is the saddest think I've heard today :(
@itsyourboiikenny
@itsyourboiikenny 2 года назад
Living World Map tier list :-)
@PhatBradley
@PhatBradley 2 года назад
The Wizards Tower is the mystery I'd like solved if I had to pick one. I didn't play GW1 but I remember being fascinated by the floating castle the second I arrived in that small, elemental filled fishing village. It was so cool and I can't believe nothing has been done with it since.
@Shark_Cowboy
@Shark_Cowboy 2 года назад
I'm still curious about whether the Consortium will ever amount to anything considering how mysterious they've been and how much emphasis was put on them in the rebuild of Lion's Arch and Fractals of the Mists. They were even relevant in those rift events with the Inquest and Priory! How strange...
@lyreparadox
@lyreparadox 2 года назад
I'd like to see Xotecha as a location in the mists. Populated by people who colonized the mists after they destroyed their own land by overusing magic. Kinda like an Atlantis-type story. It could explain why some of the design elements showed up elsewhere.
@pokeylope6108
@pokeylope6108 2 года назад
Im new to GW2 thank you for all the content you have been putting out
@cheesecake6572
@cheesecake6572 2 года назад
What about Kanaxai? A mysterious demon trapped under the Jade Sea capable of corrupting and transforming humans into Oni. He was the only demon in GW1 not associated with Abaddon and we never really got to the bottom of what he was or where he came from. Was he awake and active before being frozen beneath the Jade Sea or was he asleep until the Jade Wind/Luxon delvers woke him up? Could he be connected to the DSD given his location and powers of corruption or to future content in the Mists?
@BigBrocolli9
@BigBrocolli9 2 года назад
Sometimes I forget how much cool lore, stories and mysteries this franchise has
@eiderez
@eiderez 2 года назад
And it's a shame they do not expand on them that much. There are so many things they could do!
@alonsotoon
@alonsotoon 2 года назад
I know shes basically in every gw2 mystery video, but you missed the whole Lyssa mystery!
@thelyssamysterygw2439
@thelyssamysterygw2439 2 года назад
I'm still working on the Lyssa Theory. Keep an eye out for it on reddit.
@mattd5857
@mattd5857 2 года назад
I'm not so sure Livia herself counts as a mystery anymore. I would love to have her appear in more stories, but the only mystery she has left is the link to where the Scepter of Orr currently is. She made it clear that she is no longer in possession of it and that's a very powerful artifact to be casually floating around in universe undocumented.
@nemem1
@nemem1 2 года назад
She also was in Sea of Sorrows book
@gjits5307
@gjits5307 2 года назад
The biggest gw2 mystery of all: why is LA mapchat like that?
@ArthurStolyar
@ArthurStolyar 2 года назад
Why is LA like that
@GrayveStone
@GrayveStone 2 года назад
It doesn't excite me, it just makes me think of how many plot threads and characters they just throw at us, then never resolve. And then rather then focus on an existing plot (other pale trees, for example) they make up a new one with Joon and Jade.... To elaborate, I just look at the deus ex machina of the Glory of Tyria. The deus ex machina of fighting Mordy in the dream cause Plant Commander can suddenly enter the dream. Rytlock in the Mist just... failing to be coherent Tami can put Elder Dragons to sleep. Killing elder dragons is good. No, now its bad. Wait, its ok again cause Aurene is here. Vlast dies to save us.. but we come back from the dead an hour later... way to make that sacrifice matter. Gods can't fight dragons because that would be to destructive... so uh, just let the mortals do it? Why leave Tyria when we are killing them just fine... Did no god ever get a prayer about glint in 250 years? Shining Blade is totally find with adding every race to it, despite being a human centric order to protect the throne and basically but a death curse on us? I could go on... but my point is I really don't trust them to pay off on a mystery based on their past track record. They have lost the trust.
@Ehntu
@Ehntu 2 года назад
Re: Inquest - apparently there was a scrapped plot in making Episode 2 Season 4 where Phlunt was to be revealed as the leader and had kidnapped Zojja, hence us not seeing her for ages . . . sadly dropped because Taimi had been the one who had been kidnapped in the previous episode, and it would be a re-tread of 'female Asura genius kidnapped'. Big missed opportunity because as an enemies since it would be good to shut the book on Inquest who have been twirl-their-moustache evil presenece streadily across the years of Living World (except Icebrood Saga).
@tydalm.9665
@tydalm.9665 2 года назад
I love your tier lists. However, why did you put "Jade Tech"? Maybe I'm wrong, but hasn't this only been introduced with EoD teasers? So it's not really in ingame or in lore meystery (yet). I mean otherwise something like "what is expansion 4 about" is a mystery as well, no?
@TheAquarius87
@TheAquarius87 2 года назад
A yearly reminder that Anet let a lot of story threads hang loose...
@gwilym1991
@gwilym1991 2 года назад
So hanging mysteries is what happened with Razah the mist entity hero we recruit at the end of nightfall? Is he still around and what of the state of the other gods realms like the Fissue of Woe. Is menzies still alive?
@LucciSlevin
@LucciSlevin 2 года назад
I remember a dev once said that they were going to put wing 4 on the Isle of Janthir but changed it for story reasons. I think that is a pretty strong hint it's Mursaat related.
@linck7up
@linck7up 2 года назад
looking at the Mist Strangers arm makes me think its Trahearne. sylvari body's can change a lot
@OniZai
@OniZai 2 года назад
I think it is good they keep a lot of EoD close to their chest, I felt PoF's hype was tempered down due to leaks. The other mystery I want ANet to resolve is about Magdaer, the legendary sword we sent for repair.
@Zajori
@Zajori 2 года назад
The Mist Stranger maybe is the hero (player character) of GW1 how comes back to help in someway in a future threat.
@Zyphent
@Zyphent 2 года назад
Love these vids, and it's great having frequent uploads from you again WP. Really building that expansion hype.
@ghostymytoasty7007
@ghostymytoasty7007 2 года назад
Oh no, I can already tell this video is going to make me mad at the game
@swanofnutella4734
@swanofnutella4734 2 года назад
Mist Stranger HINT!: Didn't he(she?) give us a Daydreamer weapon skin? What is the lore tie-in there? Are those skins associated with Lyssa? Remember Ritlock meeting Balthazar in the Mists, and Balthazar having Lyssa's mirror? Did he acquire that mirror in the mists too? Now the 'Mist Stranger' is giving us Daydreamer weapons.
@teodorkrustev2729
@teodorkrustev2729 2 года назад
Who is the,, The Great dwarf", Depths of Tyria exploration, and also Largos content.
@stevenmcg1986
@stevenmcg1986 2 года назад
My theory, The Mist Stranger is the playable hero character from GW1.
@sarahburke7164
@sarahburke7164 2 года назад
I love this idea!!!!
@stevenmcg1986
@stevenmcg1986 2 года назад
@@sarahburke7164 Right though!? I doubt we'll ever get any concerte info on who this person is, but I can be hopeful. We see how well we got an answer for who E was so.... yeah lol.
@thisiskitta
@thisiskitta 2 года назад
Perfect tier list! Though I wonder why there is no mention of Lyssa/Lyssa’s mirror and Menzies?
@OniZai
@OniZai 2 года назад
He did say he only explores those that have high chance of being explored by the ANet. HOWEVER, I think Lyssa is still on the table. If you /kneel infront of all the Six Gods' statues, only Lyssa's grant you boons.
@thisiskitta
@thisiskitta 2 года назад
@@OniZai i think both got a chance post eod, more than xotecha and others on the list…
@Sylindria
@Sylindria 2 года назад
I’m not sure if Lysa is totally gone - she is in Lore as loving the mortal realm and even if she left with the others she’s a twin Goddess has her twin also left?
@IceChomp
@IceChomp 2 года назад
Loving all these uploads lately
@bobmcfiggin8454
@bobmcfiggin8454 2 года назад
Razah would be on my list, no reason he still wouldn't be around
@Earendilgrey
@Earendilgrey 2 года назад
I am still holding out hope with my theory that E is Evennia. We never learned what happened to her after she went to Ascalon in GW1. I could even see her being a ghost, but still helping Kryta through her letters. Or real crack theory, she was transported to the Mist and has now shown back up as the Mist Stanger. Yeah that isn't that likely.
@Gorrebell
@Gorrebell 2 года назад
Maybe Livia shared some of her immortality with a fellow member of the Shining Blade. 👀
@Earendilgrey
@Earendilgrey 2 года назад
@@Gorrebell I could see that as well. Could swing into more from the Mursaat since we never got a good payoff with the White Mantel finding all the Aspects and what Xera and her followers were doing over what Caudicus was doing.
@Zeivusgaming
@Zeivusgaming 2 года назад
I would like a collection of amended instances that addresses things that they didn't have time for initially. They don't necessarily need to have us in them.
@DrStrangeloveX
@DrStrangeloveX 2 года назад
I don't know if this really counts, but I've always wondered what happened to Vekk from GW1. Compared to other prominent asura of his day as well as the other EotN heroes, he doesn't get a whole lot of tribute paid to him in GW2. There are a few off-hand references to him in the vanilla game, but they're hard to find and don't really say anything about his life. Not until HoT do we get anything even remotely substantial where during an event in Rata Novus a console suggests he became a teacher. The most significant piece we have is in Istan of all places where you can read an excerpt from his biography at the Astralarium. However, most of that excerpt is just a Priory Scholar praising the book. It seems he studied Scrying Pools for whatever that's worth. Might not be much of a mystery, but it always struck me as odd that Vekk is so obscure compared to his contemporaries.
@moi9791
@moi9791 2 года назад
Lyssa's Mirror, Balthazaar's replacement, Desmina's intentions after taking down Dhuum, Arkk and Dessa?
@next_lvl_
@next_lvl_ 2 года назад
Not in particular order: 1. Rifts, shadowstone, Auris Weirdbringer, 97. Those current events had me hyped as shit and kept the entire community on toes and with tinfoil hats on. Great fun was had speculating on reddit and with friends. I just miss that mood. 2. Found, or at least actively discussed during the same LS3 era: when you play a piano in Ebonhawke, you get shot from something sounding like a rifle - this one might be just a funny characterization of neighbors that don't tolerate noise? :'D 3. Origin of EoTN. 4. Ancient Orr and Tyria in general. I just want the history of this world to be deeper and richer than Anet's probably ever cared. 5. More about Desmina, how she's been faring. 6. Some fractals are probably meant to be mysterious one-offs and not much else, but I keep wondering about Viirastra/Artsariiv. And other celestial creatures, such as those we meet in Desert Highlands. This might even be related to the ??? shroom zone in Jahai :'D 7. Samarog and Deimos? They might fall in the same sad category as fractals, but damn, I wish we saw more similar creatures, and, if lucky, got some lore.
@Kossage
@Kossage 2 года назад
Thanks for the insightful video as always! Here's my speculation regarding the fate of the human homeworld and Doern's kingdom in the planet Tyria (Thyria) as the two are kinda connected in the timeline as a consequence of the other. 1) The potential fate of the human homeworld 1.1) First, let's look at what the Orrian history scrolls (which are admittedly lacking in information and also biased based on human religious views/myths so we should take them with a grain of salt): 1.1.1) Dwayna: "The first of the gods to step forth from the mists was Dwayna, goddess of air and life. She placed her pale foot on the stones of Arah, opened the gates, and brought humanity to the world. She chose Tyria and brought with her those who would make this world a paradise. As she had promised, Dwayna led her people to peace." So, Dwayna led her people to peace, implying that wherever humanity came from was not peaceful. Thus potential conflict of some kind. 1.1.2) Balthazar: "Balthazar came in fire and wrath, carrying the head of his father and leading his fierce hounds, Temar and Tegon. He swept Orr with a cleansing flame. It was he who claimed Tyria for humanity; he who said the other races would be easy to defeat. It would not be the only time that the Master of War was wrong." Balthazar was carrying the severed head of his father. While the newer PoF lore devs claimed that this was proof that Balthazar was always ruthless and never a good guy, we actually don't know the context of why he was carrying dad's head. Was it a grim war trophy or possibly done as an act of reverence for the fallen as some native tribes were known to do IRL with pieces of their fallen friends and enemies to gain their strength? What's also interesting is the fact that the head of Balthy's dad was intact. Meanwhile, if we look at the deaths of the fallen god Abaddon and the former god Balthazar, we see their forms disintegrating upon their demise, leaving no physical vessel behind. So, does this mean that Balthy's dad was mortal since the head didn't disintegrate after he was beheaded? We know Menzies is Balthy's half-brother, so the brothers only shared one parent. If Balthy's dad was a mortal, it would then suggest that the mother might've been a goddess, and we'd see a kind of echo of the Dwayna and mortal sculptor (potentially Malchor based on the retroactive edits the writers did to the description in Grenth's DR statue from Malchor to Desmina) tragic romance there. 1.1.3) Melandru: "Next came the goddess of nature. Wise Melandru, oldest of them all, made of Orr a green and flowering expanse. She urged peace with the races already present on this world, but her advice was not heeded. When she saw destruction, she brought creation. Where she saw anger, she grew love. With this, Melandru prepared for a future she knew would be troubled." Melandru was among the wisest of the gods, perhaps only surpassed by the princely Abaddon. She prepared for a future she knew would be troubled, but could it be that this insight was based on something she'd witnessed earlier somewhere, potentially in the human homeworld? Perhaps she didn't want past mistakes to be repeated now that they had entered Tyria. 1.1.4) Lyssa: "The two who are one, Issa and Lys, brought with her the hope and beauty of humanity. While the other gods focused on building Arah and beginning a new future, Lyssa gave them joy and helped them forget the past." Maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but to me the grammar here leaves it ambiguous who "they" are in the context of the sentence. Did Lyssa help humanity forget the past, or the gods? Or both? Whoever the target of such an act were, the fact that they wanted to forget the past suggests some sort of tragic or horrific event. Why else would they want to forget what had happened? Perhaps something that happened on the human homeworld? 1.1.5) Abaddon: "Among them was Abaddon-once secret-keeper, now betrayer. How you have fallen from the glorious days of old. What passed beyond in the Mists, only you remember." Lyssa helped "them" forget the past, but Abaddon still somehow remembered what had happened. Sadly we don't know what exactly he knew and if he acted upon this hidden knowledge to enact his plans. Still, it's a curious emphasis in the texts, suggesting that Abaddon knew more than he was letting on about what had happened back in the day. Source: wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Orrian_History_Scrolls 1.2) Second, if we look at the textures on the Harbinger of Woe who challenges us to tackle more dangerous encounters in fractal challenge modes, we notice that he has a pattern showing a planet, great destruction, and a void. If we swap the locations of textures 1 and 2 in the wiki's image gallery, we actually see a potential chronological progression in the images: a) the planet is oversaturated with what appears to be heavy concentrations of magic surrounding it b) the planet is torn in half in a cataclysm of epic proportions c) nothing remains afterwards except a deep void in a sea of stars, potentially suggesting that the extinction event wiped out the entire planet that thus fell into the void, leaving no trace of it behind Source: wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Harbinger_of_Woe 1.3) Devs have stated that there are no parallels per se between the Six Gods and the six Elder Dragons. But what if there's some connection? We've seen that divine magic (both the "native" Tyrian divine magic such as Spirits of the Wild vs. Drakkar, and outside Tyria divine magic tied to the gods such as Eternal Flame or uncorruptable Exalted vs. dragon minions) counters dragon corruption, which might explain why a depowered Balthazar (if he still had a spark of divinity within him) was safely able to waltz into Primordus's lair without being eaten or corrupted by him. We know a single god dying (e.g. Abaddon) is enough to potentiall destroy two realms in the Mists (Realm of Torment and planet Thyria) while we require (or required until Dragonstorm) just three Elder Dragon deaths without replacements to likewise doom Thyria. What if the reason for this discrepancy is that as god magic isn't native to Tyria, just one god dying is enough to upset the magical balance, while the same effect could happen if one Elder Dragon had died on the gods' homeworld due to the dragon likewise having foreign magic in that planet's ecosystem? What if the six gods were the balancers to their homeworld's The All like the six dragons are balancers to Thyria's the All? If there was a war between gods (if Balthy carrying his dad's severed head is any indication) or some other catastrophe that led to excess magic (similar to the Dragonstorm or Abaddon death scenarios except there being no Kormir, Aurene or Joon dragonjade machine equivalent to contain and siphon the magic), it could've either overcharged the planet or reduced its magic level and thus torn it in half, forcing gods to take the remnants of humanity with them on a grand exodus to another habitable world. It would explain the clues in Orrian history scrolls about Lyssa helping "them" forget the past, Dwayna promising to bring her people to "peace", and Melandru preparing for a troubled future. Interestingly Ogden and the Apostate state the following regarding what happens to Thyria's Antikytheria system of the All if the world is filled with too much or too little magic (from deaths of balancers or if one or more balancers eat too much magic without counters): > If you're not mistaken, this ancient tome was written by someone known as the Apostate. It appears to describe something similar to what you saw in your vision of the Eternal Alchemy. > The author calls it the Antikytheria, describing it as a cosmic mechanism made of many parts, all spinning around a central body known in ancient Krytan as Thyria. > Six large bodies orbit the world, existing in primal symbiosis. The energies move with the push and pull of positive and negative, ever in motion. > The Apostate says one thing that is especially troubling... "Should the energies become imbalanced, the world will tilt and all beings will fall off it into the void." It's probably a metaphor. Source: wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Map_of_the_All > Ogden Stonehealer: The gods expound on how Tyria's health is tied directly to them [the Elder Dragons]. This portion is somewhat abstract, however. > Ogden Stonehealer: There are varied theories on what it means, but I believe it refers to the natural balance of magic. > Ogden Stonehealer: Too much magic, and the world spins out of control. Too little, and it crumbles into darkness. Source: wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hidden_Arcana More interestingly Aurene made a point to tell us in "The End" instance and the dragonflight in Season 4 that we can't just kill Kralkatorrik in the Mists or his magic will not return to Tyria and we doom the planet Thyria, thus our need to lure him first back to Tyria before finishing him off there. If the balancer analogue holds true for dragons and gods per the theory, if a god (or gods) of the previous generation was/were slain in the Mists rather than on humanity's homeworld, it would've had catastrophic consequences to the homeworld even if Balthazar or whoever had replaced the previous gods as the process of magic dissipation would've already happened and destroyed the planet. So, with all that in mind, it's possible that there's no longer any homeworld that humanity (and Forgotten if they truly come from the same world as humans) could return to, and so gods need to find an entirely new planet to populate, hopefully without its version of six evil dragon-like balancers of the All. In the next post in this thread, let's look at how Doern's kingdom might tie into this human exodus from the homeworld to planet Thyria. (Continued below.)
@genericprofile4847
@genericprofile4847 2 года назад
The way you wrote short descriptions for some of these tier entries in parentheses kinda reminds me of those conspiracy iceberg memes. "The Cycle Is Reborn" (DO NOT RESEARCH)
@TEK427
@TEK427 2 года назад
At the end of season 3 Livia said she was going to settle down, "grow a little older." So the next time we meet Livia, I'm hoping we see her as an old woman, living peacefully in her final days. But not before bequeathing us the Scepter of Orr -- a tool that would help us against the next threat. :D I don't know why, but the Mist Stranger is giving me vibes of Vael from GW1. For being a simple mercenary, Vael always struck me as someone who knew more about the PC and the world than he ought to. Plus Vael is an assassin, which could be on theme with the shadowy Mist Stranger. The theory that these two people are the same is probably a wild stab in the dark, but that's just what my gut is telling me. XD Which mystery am I most curious about? Probably Bubbles and Mother.
@meykel8108
@meykel8108 2 года назад
Hey WP I'd love to hear your thoughts on these two topics. At this point will Anet ever give us a proper do-over of season 1 of the living world? Is there no way of threading the main story points of season 1 while fixing the problamatic parts of the story? It's been so long I honestly don't even remember what went wrong in season 1. Aurenes capability as a vessel for dragon magic comes from her lineage through Glint and Kralkattoric. Why are Sylvari unable to do the same as spawns of the Pale Tree who is herself an orphaned champion of Mordremoth? How would the races interact if it turned out that every Sylvari was a potential battery, or bomb of dragon magic?
@Jaaaaaaaaaanzbo
@Jaaaaaaaaaanzbo Год назад
Bobby Stein, Colin Johanson and Joe Kimmes were answering questions while streaming GW1 in the Extra Life stream last week and they were asked about the Nameless lich and none of them had no idea who the npc even was so that mystery is buried for sure. They said the npc was probably added by another dev who started working on GW1 before they did and no longer works at the studio. I recommend checking it out there were lot's of cool questions!
@DarnokIksnibiks
@DarnokIksnibiks 2 года назад
The Pact future and Pact Tech is the thread i would like to investigate more. How it will be ran after its funding goal is achieved - all elder dragons vanquished. Will pact dissolve. Will it guard new dragon generation or be corrupted by power they have? And the Pact Tech, powerful to fight dragons head on. Possibly no nation can compete with it on its own technologically. Pact also have access to fleet of warship that probably can conquer most nations...
@_Banjo_
@_Banjo_ 2 года назад
The Wizards Tower - and the fighting of multiple groups. Does this not sound perfect for their new structure of re-using assets? We can do story / strikes / raids / fractals / open world DRMs out of the same content. All teams can take a bite out of this
@jasonthaler7328
@jasonthaler7328 2 года назад
I don't NEED playable Tengu... I want them though... sooooo much
@om3galul989
@om3galul989 2 года назад
why is it that all three games (wow, ffxiv, gw2) are bringing their story to an end at the same time?
@Hanna-fh7bi
@Hanna-fh7bi 2 года назад
world is ending, gotta wrap things up xD
@andrescoloma6652
@andrescoloma6652 2 года назад
Talking about mysteries, the mursaat are still there for me, they are fascinating, the seers even more and I also like everything that was forgotten related. Between the new races, the largos are by far the more mysterious ones. I hope they do something about them now, with the deep sea dragon I think it is the moment for them to shine. I got the feeling of the lonely and really strong warrior from them that I used to have with norns in Eotn. Also, where did the charr came from when they arrived ascalon again in gw1? they were living more in the east before that right? would like to see where they were living during the time the humans reigned in Ascalon.
@wafflingmean4477
@wafflingmean4477 2 года назад
This comment is less of a theory/mystery and more pure desperation on my part, but what if Palawa Joko is still out there somewhere? Zafira and Aurene quoted Balthazar to each other, implying that since Aurene absorbed some of Balthazar's soul (she has pretty much all of it now that Kralk is dead), she has some of his memories. Perhaps that means whatever remains of Joko's soul is inside Aurene? I'm not really a subscriber to the theory of "Aurene's growling when she eats Joko sounds like Joko laughing" theory, but I think it would be really cool for Joko's nature of being such a powerful undead being to make his soul more resilient. So if Aurene's power was ever released back out into the wild, Joko's soul wouldn't just be vague fragments that would drift off to the Mists. He could turn into a ghost of some sort. Again, I'm really reaching here. It's just because Joko was such an amazing character and I think he was killed off before reaching his full potential.
@mattd5857
@mattd5857 2 года назад
Not sure how much you've been in game recently. But this year's Halloween event featured the ghost of Palawa Joko in the mad realm replacing Prince Thorn as the Mad King's rival. Their banter heavily implied that this is Joko's final resting place unless future story beats change it.
@wafflingmean4477
@wafflingmean4477 2 года назад
@@mattd5857 Ah fuck. I did miss Halloween in GW2 this year. At least this does mean that he *can* be brought back. I don't have high hopes he will. But the character is on the shelf now instead of being obliterated forever so I'm content for the moment.
@RPGCrash
@RPGCrash 2 года назад
The idea of the gods new garden is mote fascinating to me out of those two. As far as im aware the PC and friends do not have a high opinion of the gods right now, and to go into this place with these new races and peoples or new "set" of humans and try to explain the gods arent so great, theyve done this before and abandoned us but the people cant see how that could be true.
@aaronhaskins9782
@aaronhaskins9782 2 года назад
one thing you left out, was the sudden appearance of the Stone Summit. Thought to be extinct.
@berendaleroorda6337
@berendaleroorda6337 2 года назад
the biggest mysterie in gw is, where did the customer support go to after last april? rumors go its outsourced to some phishing hackers with a heavy india accent, demanding for 500 euro's in giftcertificates, else people might go to 'jail'
@TheColonelSassacre
@TheColonelSassacre 2 года назад
It would be great if the gods created a new race to worship them on their new world, so when we finally find them we'd come into conflict with their new chosen.
@Colathan
@Colathan 2 года назад
There is even reference in GW1 in the Temple of Ages that the Gods have left to cultivate new worlds.
@luciusandco
@luciusandco 2 года назад
My thought on the "Gods have a new garden" and other worlds of humans and things along that line is that it is the devs' method of moving into a new game. The studio was considering closing down gw2 and moving to new projects and that's around the time when they started propping up the Gods moving on. I believe it will stay there as a thread for them to use when they want a change of world. It allows them the option of moving to a blank slate whilst keeping some of the character styles that players like so they have something to entice them into the new game
@lyreparadox
@lyreparadox 2 года назад
I agree that it's a setup for a new game, but I'd love to see them combine the "garden of the gods" and the "human homeworld" into a game set in Tyria's future. I haven't seen many people try to build futuristic magical worlds and I think Anet could be the studio to do it well.
@ArthurStolyar
@ArthurStolyar 2 года назад
Calling it now -- Mist Stranger is Commander from the future.
@aniket6173
@aniket6173 2 года назад
A pale tree of the nightmare court might be cool
@La.máquina.de.los.sueños
@La.máquina.de.los.sueños 2 года назад
You forgot about Balthazar's replacement, there's no "Six" anymore (I vote for Koss). Also, since Cantha is the oldest colonized area, why they aren't praising the Six anymore, why no trace left of them... and what are exactly the Celestials??? What's Kuunavang and Albax's relevance among the Elder Dragons?
@thelyssamysterygw2439
@thelyssamysterygw2439 2 года назад
The idea that Balthazar was replaced is novel. However, it is unlikely that Dwayna's pantheon replaced him, as Balthazar was/is a peerless god. Losing him has been a disaster for the gods. If a replacement were to be proposed, though, it is likely to be a wielder of either Sohothin or Magdaer - i.e. it is more likely to be Rytlock or Adelbern.
@23bcx
@23bcx 2 года назад
I have never heard of the nameless litch and I believed I had fairly good grasp of the lore, I doubt Anet is actively thinking about it
@RayisX
@RayisX 2 года назад
... what happend to the kings sword form AC
@theritualist5736
@theritualist5736 2 года назад
Wizards tower for No. 1. But i think you missed Lyssa. Her involvement with Balthazar, was she going to go against the other gods as well and fight alongside the god of war? Why did she back down. Why did Kormir say "even Lyssa" when they were talking about the gods not getting involved?
@thelyssamysterygw2439
@thelyssamysterygw2439 2 года назад
Keep an eye out for the Lyssa Theory on reddit. It posits a motive and explanation for Balthazar's actions that is a little more specific.
@jonathanbrazeau5114
@jonathanbrazeau5114 2 года назад
Couldn't the Pyrite Peninsula be the pre-cursor of what the exalted used to become immortal? The magic change everything in gold. So an experiment to become immortal?
@manuelthodos5925
@manuelthodos5925 2 года назад
I've come back in the past 5 days and I've been enjoying it very much. I had a few 80s from HoT release and a few I had boosted to 80 but, decided to start a thief from scratch doing storyline and already hit lvl 67 so far.
@natesilver2443
@natesilver2443 2 года назад
What about the flavor text of Vision. Something something about Lyssa will be mad if she know of Balthazar's fall
@thelyssamysterygw2439
@thelyssamysterygw2439 2 года назад
Balthazar probably isn't dead. Read the Parable of Lyssa.
@naryktaryk225
@naryktaryk225 2 года назад
It is time to be reallistic about the golden orb in orr. When it was added there were not any idea of dragon hearths, but there was idea of gold styled magic related to the gods and more importantly to the forgotten who worked with the gods. It just show there was forgotten activity in the area teasing the path 3 of arah. Even if ignor the fact it predate idea that dragons have a heard and even that dragons explode on death (as big undead Z didnt) you cant get over the fact there is similar orb underwater in cused shore, does that make orr dragon graveyeard or something?
@roanvandeworp3412
@roanvandeworp3412 2 года назад
Man this made me excited for gw2 again! You made me get back into the game i think.
@HawkEyeA53B
@HawkEyeA53B 2 года назад
My personal mystery lore bugbear is what exactly caused part of the Maguuma Jungle to transform into the Maguuma Wastes. ArenaNet suggested it had been attributed to the Elder Dragons, but it had not been outright confirmed while also referencing other nefarious agents may have been at work.
@awhale2616
@awhale2616 2 года назад
WP, you missed the mystery of those alien fungi in Jahai!! the concept of an alien planet far off from tyria is S tier to me, and it makes me sad to see the devs haven't gone back to that
@KaiCluster
@KaiCluster 2 года назад
Wasn't the secret of the trees and the seeds been kinda solved already though? Weren't the trees supposed to be Mordemoth's minion spawners with the pale tree and possibly other trees that were put in a similar situation, where nurture won over nature (with the pale tree absorbing the "laws" written on Ventari's tablet).
@alexblack4048
@alexblack4048 2 года назад
we still dont quite know what happened to the other possible seeds tho, its not said that the blighting trees in around the heart of thorn maps were any of these seeds, we just down have the nuance. It would be cool to see a conclusive kind of answer like "oh yeah theres another tree off on the north west coast of maguuma and its malycks, theyre doing fine since mordremoths gone" or something like it, it was never quite concluded he just went on to find more trees, a lot of ideas were probably cut from HoT, like the nightmare courts involvement, there even is a fourth possible lane leading towards mordrems tree that couldve been for the nightmare court off on the coastal side of dragons stand that was cut and never used that you can break into(i did it on accident while exploring the map first time, just fully walked by the invisible wall without knowing only realizing when the map art didnt clear up and show me where i was then i freaked out a little and just never walked to the end of the lane lol)
@nor2003
@nor2003 2 года назад
lol at all the gw1 mysteries resurgence glad you put them all on D, but dominion of winds would have been S imo. and yes im still super salty no tengu playable character.
@Ehntu
@Ehntu 2 года назад
So stupid that Anise wasn't Livia. I swear that was the trajectory and it was just changed for the sake of being 'unpredictable' (like Braham living).
@sambrock5692
@sambrock5692 2 года назад
i think the theory that anise and jennah being lys and illia is a lot more popular tbh
@Muten1988
@Muten1988 2 года назад
After the dragon story ends, if Aurene doesn't absorb all the magic, i predict a forth Guild Wars. Many groups, with good & evil intentions will try to influence Tyria, empowered by the excess magic. It will open up the missing core maps, and you can introduce many characters and faction leaders. You can have Sky-pirates, dredge slavers, Krait sorcerers, flame legion renegades, white mantle remnants, nightmare court or a splinter group of humans, lead by a descendant of King Doric.
@ralphreal4039
@ralphreal4039 2 года назад
I love everything about you :)
@marnixpeeters2675
@marnixpeeters2675 2 года назад
Same
@Snipedout209
@Snipedout209 2 года назад
What do you think of them doing an expansion or lws episode on the Realm of Torment. The rift is still there in Vabbi. I think I remember that the forged were trying to keep it closed or something? (Correct me if I’m wrong on that part please), but they did at least show that it was more than just there by chance in my opinion. They even jabbed at the idea of it in A Star To Guide Us in a collection type achievement. You can collect a tooth from a tormented enemy. The tormented were residents of the realm of torment and I believe they were servants of Abaddon if my memory serves me right.
@Huggernator
@Huggernator 2 года назад
Regarding the Pyrite Peninsula: Could it be a reference to Guild Wars 1? Guild Wars 1 tells the story of how Orr was destroyed by the Charr, during an event called The Cataclysm, where they burned Arah to the ground. Additionally, at the end of Guild Wars 1, we see a vision of Glint, though Glint was not named at the time. Could the answer lie somewhere in there?
@R_SENAL
@R_SENAL 2 года назад
I'm a lover of cartography/geography, so one of the greatest mysteries for me you do not mention is the Sunken Islands and the land called Arid on the world map, and maybe the Forsaken Cliffs, I want to explore all these far flung places!! I also was playing WvW today and started thinking about the land being Maguma wastes and wondering where this is/was in the real world before it was in the Mists? Was it in the Sage Lands, the Wilds? That portal above Brisban you can't pass through makes my eye twitch and I want to GO!! Janthir is big for me too, and maybe the Ash Legion Homeland? As for other mysteries, I think from a storytelling perspective E has to be someone we know for the Who-done-it to really pay off, and Farin is the most likely candidate, but if it is him then it wasn't much of a mystery if we all guessed it, so pretty low for me. I really want to see what the Gods are up to, what the DSD is all about, and a new Lich would be great and maybe provide some insight into the full extent of Aurene's new powers, so super excited for all of that too!
@Meowrian
@Meowrian 2 года назад
: Any idea what's happening with the other Elder Dragons? Taimi: Nothing on Kralkatorrik, and ditto for... Oh, what's its name? Brain malfunction. Starts with an s...?
@gefilte86
@gefilte86 2 года назад
The none other tree eggs could be Mordemoth doing. Malyk, according to the Nightmare court considered to it to be the harbinger(s). The ones to annihilate the pale tree. Other Malyk's fellows are most likely the Nightmare Court themselves as well. Mordemoth is the "dream dragon" and naturally related to... Nightmare. It would be really could if he is a sleep agent like some of the Cylons in battlestar Galactica and are ,all together ,the real Mordemoth (I like EVERYTHING related to to HoT and it's my wishful thinking...)
@JuniperoHendricks
@JuniperoHendricks 2 года назад
Hey WP, my idea for a Tier Ranking. Not sure if anyone has suggested yet. The music of Guild Wars 2. So many awesome emotional tracks that brings back nostalgia. Too many for one tier list vid imo. Different categories could be Core game, expansion, map music, emotional, battle/encounter music etc.
@PastryGator
@PastryGator 2 года назад
I'm gonna jump the shark: The Mist Stranger is a warden from Xotecha, and is Trahearne from an alternate timeline where the Commander doesn't exist and the elder dragon's consumed everything on Tyria.
@MathewPartridge
@MathewPartridge 2 года назад
Probably a noob observation but the mystery of the DSD and what Taimi says about the last dragons name beginning with a 's' in Taimis game .... Nothing on Kralkatorrik, and ditto for... Oh, what's its name? Brain malfunction. Starts with an s...?
@AJSXenigma
@AJSXenigma 2 года назад
To me, the big mysteries are the places we know exist but we can't touch, and while we're finally getting Cantha, the Dominion of Winds and Wizard's Tower remain frustratingly closed off to us. At this point it feels like we'll never get pay-off for these teases present since GW2's launch, which feels like a shame because they seem like such easy wins for ArenaNet. It's also crazy how we still know so little about DSD, even now on the precipice of an expansion where they should be a major player. Can't help but worry it will end up an underwhelming reveal after so many years of being the mysterious final elder dragon.
@Channel-ww1od
@Channel-ww1od Год назад
I'm so excited to get to see inside the wizard's tower! It's finally happening in 2023 with GW2 'Secrets of the Obscure'
@VicolGrigore
@VicolGrigore 2 года назад
If I were to guess, my money would be that "Mother" is to current EDs, the way Glint was to Aurene, Vlast (and maybe other lost offsprings). I see this as a story of renewal, the youngs take the place of the elder, somewhat like a pheonix (in a way). Maybe that's why in the lore it is said that the EDs come in cycles. Mybe they are not living forever, but are being replaced with smbd new. Or not to far away, maybe "Mother" is to EDs, like we, the PC are to Aurene, a parent-like figure that helped it develop at the beginning of it's way. Maybe it is a stretch, but would be cool to ever find this out.
@edstargazer6753
@edstargazer6753 2 года назад
Several of your mysteries seem to dovetail together if you look at them lined up. Doern Velazquez / Xotecha mesh together Hispanic name/ Central American style place and Wizard's Tower predates knowledge in the same region and might tie in. Malyk came downriver from what was an outlet to the ocean from the Isles of Janthir which ties in Crysanthea and NC./ Other trees Many combinations exist of what could be together or not.
@seafighter4
@seafighter4 2 года назад
Bring in the "Tengu Realm" and fill out the core tyria maps. Sparkfly Fen has a blocked map portal, the Dominion of Winds is uncharted territory, the Brisban Wildlands have an unused portal. I want the world map to feel more connected! Mount Maelstrom still has a blocked-of portal as well.
@Kerbezena
@Kerbezena 2 года назад
I haven't watched the video yet, because I assume it will be full of spoilers for me, as I'm only just at the very beginning of HoT story-wise. Yeah I know, six years late. xD
@yvesgingras1475
@yvesgingras1475 2 года назад
WEED NEED PLAYABLE TENGU, and dominion of wind could be their city plus starting zone
@Cuddizone
@Cuddizone Месяц назад
I love revisiting old wb videos like this. See what mysteries were answered and can still potentially be a part of a future expac
@MrPlaydough45
@MrPlaydough45 2 года назад
The Wizards Tower has bugged me for YEARS....but the Wizards Fief will continue to be my comfort area to just sorta idle and hang out in
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