I was sponsored by Established Titles 

I had a bad gut feeling when so many YT channels where promoting it. But I was like it’s probably nothing. Guess I was right. Hope everything works out.

Looked like a scam from a mile away. How ridiculous. Buy a square of mud, get a title. Yes that’s how that works. There’s literally not need for a video tho. The ad was more harmful than the promotion itself. Dickless mfs “guys I’m really sorry 😢”please don’t stop paying my patreon. 12 minutes ffs. Milking itttt.

They are not a scam! The video accusing them makes multiple misleading claims which have since been debunked. They have an established partnership with multiple tree planting organizations. Please don't contribute to the attack on this charitable organization based on meritless public outrage.

You should keep your skit, it was funny

Since you don't real research like FactFiend and are helping to cost charities money, I am unsubscribing from your channel.

Awesome to see you here!

Omg vkunia! 🥺🥺

I love it when reactors i watch also watch each others videos :)

Hi Vicky, I wasn't expecting to see you here!

Hi Vicky! Enjoy your content.

thats a good saying.

I thought the saying was the other way around

That sounds backwards

@@MaiiOrduna haha I think you're right, so I'll correct myself here and stay true to the saying!

Another Thrawn fan! In here let’s go 😜May the warrior’s fortune smile upon you

A lot of RU-vidrs ARE actually doubling down and it’s messed up

Because it's not actually a scam

@@guestGoob Bruh. Proof?

@@guestGoob yeah it is. When they claim something, take your money, and don’t follow through on their claims, that pretty scammy. They specifically claimed you will own land and will legally be recognized as a lord/lady.

I bought one after seeing you talk about it, but I don’t blame you at all. You’re a great and honest dude. Scam or not, it still looks neat.

That’s hilarious. I’ve been told that you could become a Lord so many times, I think it’s the type of thing you bring up at a dinner party without really knowing if it’s true or not.

I want a piece 😭

I hope people check out Dude in a Rooms video on this subject. It seems like using the word officially has caused most problems. At least there is proof for the charity part and tree planting. The scam video said no proof exists but it does. Oh well. Novelty to scam. It's too late no matter if the truth comes out.

You know this was a question I immediately thought of as soon as I became aware of Established Titles. Specifically: "Won't they eventually run out of titles to give since land in Scotland is ultimately finite?"

@@operative2136 Well, if it's only a square foot and only 5,000 ever apply then they are fine but if millions of people do it then it's going to be a problem.

Anyone who had the sponsorship is also committing a crime if they claim people will own a piece of land and they actually don't. A fraud is a fraud and criminals need to go to prison. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

@@Xerdoz actually, From what I’ve gathered established Titles themselves actually say in all contracts and sponsorships with people on the internet that…you’re not actually getting a literal lordship, it’s more of a cool novelty service/gift that actually does donate to charity. Check out Fact Fiend on RU-vid and watch their video on Established titles if you want an explanation that is…..a bit better…. You dont have to take my word for it, but I’d like to think I’m a fairly logical individual. Please let me know if you watch the video! Also I know I may get hate for saying all this…from you or other people, but someone has to. Just..please check out Fact Fiends video.

@@sigurdbergsrud6198 they repeatedly say you are buying land though. And you're not. They ran ads exactly like the ones youtubers did being very deceptive. They own the land and it can never be yours. Actually they don't even own the land, another company does. Either way you'd have to look on the way back machine site to see what they were saying before because they massively changed their website right after Scott's video went viral. Before that the website definitely made you think you were buying land and using a loophole in the law to get lord status. They never once said it was a gag gift and they only donated to plant one tree IF you added an extra $8 on your order (which they pocketed $7 of).

@@Xerdoz Man, shut up.

Holden is a rare beast in today’s world, honestly

I don't think its a big deal. As long as the land is real and money is being used to take care of the forests, then you get what you pay for. Plus, you can still put "Lord/Lady" on stuff, just not government documents. As long as they clear up the advertisement to be MORE honest and the creator ads being clearer, it should be fine.

They have refund policy within 60 days

@@rejnholten thx 🙏

I wasn't aware of this, I got this during the black Friday deal for my wife and I as a cute and unique gift for Xmas... not sure what to do. She's terminally ill and what would have been her xmas gift I had given her on her bday, and this came up as a fun present.

I bought one for my grandmother knowing it couldn’t be legitimate years ago, but she loved it, so I’m glad I got it for her. Now that’s she’s passed I’m happy that I have her certificate she was so proud of. It was an entertaining gift.

But not this time, RUN!

So long as they're clear that you don't _really_ own the land nor have any actual title then it's just a fun way of giving money to a conservation charity. Highland Titles sound pretty dodgy to me (they're registered as a charity in the Channel Islands which means they're not under the legal oversight of either the UK or Scottish governments and don't have to declare their profits etc. so the owners _could_ for instance be drawing huge wages and only spending 5% of what they take in on conservation) but they do at least seem to have actual plots of land that they're planting actual (native) trees on. As a Scot, with no offence meant to you or your Mum and Dad, I must admit the underlying notion makes me slightly uneasy - I mean the idea of people thousands of miles away treating ownership of my country as a kind of novelty item, one that's even given away in "goody bags" at the Oscars, like an iPod or fancy hand cream - but since these i'm sure entirely well-meaning people don't _actually_ own anything I guess there's no real harm done.

Same. I’m wife and I actually did the same. It’s not like I actually believe I own some serious land in Scotland… but I like donating to various conservation efforts and after looking into HT, it seemed like a fun thing to be a part of. 😊

@@anonymes2884 It's not that simple, the law is not an area that most really grasp. They do "really" own the land, just not through the normal process under which the land registry is set up to deal with. The land registry is there for dealing with land at a minimum of 10s of thousands normally (sometimes a little less, but rarely not at least worth that much even if you pay less), up to millions of pounds and provide protection for this very big investment. It's not there to pointlessly deal with insignificant consumer level £30 sales or a little more. These people have essentially a beneficial ownership. This is a real ownership still. But they can't register it. Just to give two silly examples, imagine you sell your neighbour £20 of your land. You could just do it without a specific part, in which case they will have a form of beneficial interest and own £20 of the equity. Or you could draw up a specific area, identify this clearly, and sell them a 1m * 1m part of your garden. They still have a form of beneficial interest in your land from this, but under law this will work very slightly differently in that they have an interest in that specific area outlined in your agreement. They do absolutely own it but as they can't register it this also means they will always be a minority stakeholder in the wider land that is registered as one entity, all they can do is make demands in what to do with that bit of land compared to the rest under other laws dealing with contracts/consumer protection etc. The second example is essentially what is happening with Established Titles.

@@wyterabitt2149 Pretty sure it actually is that simple where the law is concerned. Under Scots law land ownership is a "real right" (as opposed to a "personal right"). It's absolute. In the context of the video, "Established Titles" (actually the Hong Kong company that owns them) holds that "real right" to the land (in the thread's context the company in question is "Highland Titles" but it's the same idea). That's it. There's only one right of ownership and they have it. That right of ownership needs three things in order to be _legally_ transferred to another party - a contract, conveyance and _registration in the Land Registry_ because in Scotland land ownership is (partly) _defined_ by registration in the Land Registry. You literally can't _legally_ own land that _isn't_ registered to you and until it's registered you don't own it, even if the first two requirements for transfer have been met. This has been true since the 1600s. Some of these companies will point to the Land Registration etc. (Scotland) Act (1979 and then later 2012) which mentions that "souvenir plots" _can't_ be registered. They then spin this to claim "souvenir plots _don't need_ to be registered" as if you _can_ still legally own land in Scotland without registering it. As it currently stands though civil law, common law and all qualified legal opinions i've seen are agreed that this just isn't the case. Where we totally agree though is that what "Established Titles" customers hold is a _contract_ with the company saying, effectively, "We agree you own this land" (and _maybe_ also "And we agree to conserve it"). This is a "personal right" of contractual obligation. No plot "owner" has the rights conferred with land ownership in Scotland (the rights to use, enjoy the fruits of and within the law, do what you wish with the land). No one else needs to recognise their "ownership" as binding. If Joe Bloggs comes in and buys _actual_ (legally recognised) ownership of the land from "Established Titles" (or also, depending on the specifics of the contract, if "Established Titles" e.g. decides to tear up all the trees and build a hotel there), those customers _could_ then sue "Established Titles" for breach of contract (though I don't see it going very far given the "novelty" nature of it) but they have absolutely no recourse against Joe Bloggs because they have no "real right" of ownership in the land and never did. Their connection is with "Established Titles", not the land. Similarly, if "Estabished Titles" goes bankrupt tomorrow so goes their customers' "ownership". (I realise BTW that i'm just some rando on the internet but if you google around this you can read multiple sources, including Scots property lawyers, weighing in on the situation and to them too it's clear-cut)

@@cinemadolce it only costs $1 to plant one tree at the actual tree planting charity. If everyone had just donated half of that ridiculous amount to the charity, so many trees could've been planted. Instead everyone gave the scammers all the money for something they could've printed off the internet for free 🤷‍♀️

It was not obvious to everyone, and I wish that people would stop saying this. It doesn't make them stupid, it just means that they didn't know the all that went into purchasing land in that country and being title of Lord or Lady. Content creators were insinuating that it was an official title, and they offered to disclaimer. So flipping it to make it sound like it's the people's fault for calling them, and evading accountability by blaming people for horribly misleading pitches is messed up. 😒

Exactly. People are taking it like they didn't upfront say this lol

@@raulortiz547 They didn't say it up front. They said that the "lord" part is more or less a gag, but they made it seem like you were actually owning a tiny piece of land. Why is it too hard for so many people to recognize the nuance of this?

So you bought someone land knowing it was fake? That’s the equivalent of regifting someone a coffee maker because you know it’s broken 😅

@@smallfryskilledge1550 its not buying land. You are buying a contract to a piece of land assigned to you, managed by them with the intention of using the loophole in scottish tradition to call yourself lord and sponsoring the preservation of said land. As I said, people are focusing in the land part of this. Wtf u gonna do wit a 1' x 1' plot in a land managed by someone else?

@@raulortiz547 so you buy a contract, not land. And this contract doesn’t give you anything correct? I might make up my own contract with the Martian’s so my friends can become Martians.

I am an actual therapist that works for better help. And know of actual therapists that have used it to supplement their income

Hear - Hear! I concur; our dear Lord Holden shall not be made bereft of his well earned coins!

Seriously! This doesn’t seem like the kind of harmful scam that RU-vidrs really need to go online and apologize for. It seems more weird to me that anyone would purchase anything solely because one of their favorite RU-vidrs promoted it & without any kind of research on their own. It’s not just the content creators responsibility, but the viewers as well and I don’t feel like I see many people pointing that out instead of insulting some creators for promoting it & being so happy to see them apologize. Idk, it just feels weird to me like there are plenty of other scams of equal or more damage that aren’t getting this kind of attention & this definitely isn’t the hill we should be dying on.

I both agree and disagree with him on the whole "usual business and shell companies" deal . It is regular , except this was mentioned there because EACH of those shell and different companies seems to be accused of behind a scam or faulty product . hardly the same as purchasing an umbrella of companies under multiple IDS , and some of them screwing up or being plain shady ... here they all intentional are , apparently

No, at least two of my subbed channels have addressed it before today.

There are thousands of RU-vidrs they sponsored lmfao how do you know every single one hasn’t acknowledged it

I was speaking for myself really, obviously others exist that I'm not aware of.