Lab Naming Controversy - WAN Show August 26, 2022 

Wait did Linus say he doesn't consider me a friend 😤 I take back everything..

Glad the birds are doing better now; patience is rewarding once you see them become more active. -Timestamps- [0:00] *Chapters.* [1:22] *NEW Intro.* [1:48] *Topic #1: LAB32's backstory & name conflict.* > 3:06 Linus's conversation with Sara from LAB22. > 6:12 LAB32's drafted branding. > 8:52 Gary's update for lab tests. [9:24] *Topic #2: Luke's experience with TELUS.* > 11:28 Luke's TV, spam marketing calls. > 15:42 Internet cut-outs stories. > 18:04 Deals, costs, do not call list. > 23:52 Reminders to call, old plans. [25:03] *Topic #3: VESA's DisplayHDR & ClearMR.* > 29:24 Explaining ClearMR tiers. > 31:28 Samsung's & LG's statements, Twitter uncertainty. > 35:24 Testing methodology, Linus's thoughts, scoring. > 40:03 Discussing games, FF VI's 1/6th scale statue. [43:54] *LTT screwdriver process, shipped to Project Farm.* > 48:54 Screwdriver pop-up shop stream. [49:48] *Lab update, tests, systems.* > 55:18 Responses to PSU tester video. [1:01:22] *LTTStore discount.* [1:02:40] *Topic #4: Linus in the Steam Deck Booklet.* > 1:05:26 Discussing the point of the booklet & its content. [1:11:15] *Sponsors.* > 1:11:25 Wealthfront risk-tolerance investment. > 1:12:14 Backblaze cloud backup & data restoration. > 1:13:12 TEAMGROUP's DELTA RGB DDR5 giveaway. [1:13:42] *Mini-Topics.* > 1:13:48 Luke on merch messages as "ads". > 1:15:54 Twitch controversy. > 1:17:09 Most embarrassing childhood phase. > 1:20:20 Linus's high-school, climbing events, grandparents. > 1:28:06 Linus fights Dennis on CSF. > 1:31:30 LMG Clips comments, Linus's funds in videos. [1:37:25] *Topic #5: Starlink V2 connects to cellphones.* [1:42:36] *Luke birds update.* > 1:46:48 Discussing canary usage in coal mine. > 1:48:39 Canary resuscitator. [1:49:58] *Merch Messages #1.* > 1:50:03 Lab accreditation, gaming SSD, CAT# tests. > 1:54:08 Most memorable tech experience from Japan. > 1:57:18 Starlink latency viability in Australia. > 1:58:52 Why manual LTT screwdriver over electric. > 2:00:36 Hiding unannounced LTT products, Linus on pop-up shop. > 2:07:34 Strawpoll: screwdriver pop-up stream date. > 2:11:46 Strawpoll result. > 2:15:12 Screwdriver warranty description, pre-orders limits. > 2:19:11 Lack of warranty on bits, price for packs. [2:22:46] *Topic #6: Clearing up last WAN's Apple story.* > 2:26:44 Luke on Apple asking _once_ to track over all apps. [2:31:33] *LMG hiring employees.* [2:32:12] *Topic #7: Twitch accused of divided judgment.* [2:34:16] *Topic #8: Apple extends self-service program.* [2:37:02] *Topic #9: Gaming hardware prices are WAY up.* > 2:38:28 Playstation increases prices by up to 20%. > 2:39:43 Sony sued for overpricing games. [2:42:58] *Merch Messages #2.* > 2:43:11 Handling getting interrupted by a workflow. > 2:44:06 Tech that are considered life-changing. > 2:46:03 Was LTT approached by YT for an original series? > 2:47:11 What we should know about Linus & Luke. > 2:50:24 Linus on cloud data. > 2:51:34 Was Linus a NASCAR fan? [2:52:09] *Outro.*

"Team Fortress was originally a Half-Life mod" TF was originally a mod for the original Quake, then later QuakeWorld. The team behind it (TF Software Pty. Ltd.) was even working on a standalone game that would have been called "Team Fortress 2", when they were hired by Valve to develop it as a mod for Half-Life. That came out in 1999. In 2000, with the Half-Life 1.1 update, Team Fortress 1.5 was released as a standalone product (first time it wasn't just a mod). Then in 2007 they came out with TF2. The GoldSrc engine version is known as Team Fortress Classic these days, I'm not sure when that naming convention started. Maybe around the time TF2 came out?

Regarding the floor damage: Many moons ago I bought a fixer-upper house for $27 and a taco. In one area the hardwood floor was badly scratched by a previous occupant's horse-sized dog. I asked my flooring contractor for a quote to replace it. She laid out a bunch of reasons why it would be difficult and unusually expensive to fix, strongly intimating that she did not want the job. She concluded by strongly recommending that instead I deploy an R.U.G. system. I asked what that was and who sells it. She said it's a rug. Put down a rug and it'll look great. She was absolutely right.

Never really paid much attention to the screen when this show is on, but after the GN video, it’s quite fun to just watch Luke’s face.

I used to donate blood. I got diagnosed with anemia, can’t donate anymore. Blood bank was on my ass like I owed them blood. It was crazy.. I told them I can never donate blood. I might have to take blood from you before I can donate blood again. It took 6-10 calls before I got on a do not call list. And they still called me a year later to check if I could donate.

Tip for those late night emails, especially for bosses emailing their staff: use timed send! Delay it until 8am the next morning, so there's no implied pressure to respond immediately.

GPS was last big life changing piece of tech. The integration of GPS with public transportation in the form of trackers was life changing. Who wants to wait outside in the cold for a bus that might never come. Bus tracking was a total game changer for public transportation.

I'm pretty sure having Dennis do chores will result in more damage than it's worth xD.

If you want to keep the lab branding. Use words - Lab Thirty Two. You can even work in the LTT Fonts to further tie it together with the rest of LMG while still moving away from "Linus" and it further differentiates things from Lab22

It's funny, the car thing where the wife asks the questions and the dealer just talks to the guy instead. Happened to a friend of mine who knows and cares nothing for cars, with the wife being far more knowledgeable about it. Every time they'd reply to him or tell only him about this and that thing and it wound up biting the dealer in the ass because the guy would just be indifferent and they wound up getting a much better deal because the dealer was worried about losing the sale.

Luke is such a good bird dad, doing what he's gotta do to keep the little ones healthy.

Regarding the lab: nothing gives me more tech anxiety than reading a review of a product covered over 6 months ago, or has had a slight nomenclature change. Hopefully the lab will run tests more frequently and with a way of adding in minor changes (even with batch differences where a component change was made and the manufacturer does not make widely known - like to help their supply chain issues). Looking forwards to this new channel(s).

One major issue is that most ISPs in the US don't even advertise their "normal" rates. The only info you can find is what the current promos are.

One thought on the electric versus manual screwdriver, it's not always about speed. Sometimes it's about physical capability. I have terrible arthritis in my hands but still like building PCs and working on cars, so anything that allows me to do the least manual twisting and turning is a godsend. On the other topic about people criticizing you ("How much of my money did you spend on this???" or "Don't have video editors move your furniture if you don't want damaged floors"), I've lately noticed that there are a group of people out there who really want nothing more than to try to tear you down. Whether they think of it as sport, or they have a grudge against you, or have no life, or are jealous of the success you've had, I have no idea. I've seen plenty of people out there who immediately assume the worst (or flat out fabricate the worst) when it comes to your actions and motivations. No doubt it probably sucks to read those kinds of comments about yourself, but I do think that the more you address their faux "concerns" the more energized they become.

I work on business jets for a living and i usually use Snap-On tools. I am very excited to preorder one of the black/orange screwdrivers as soon as I’m able. One of the other things i really like about the screwdriver happens to be the style of bits it will come with. Aircraft have lots of small areas to work in and as you could imagine lots of space constrained screws. I have several “standard” bits that ive had to cut to fit into such areas. The small form factor bits are a big plus for me and that price point for the bit kits is more than fair especially when some bits that grace my tool box are 8.99 each.

Luke, I lost two parrots (one of which I'd had about 20 years) to "smoke inhalation" a few years back. They both went within minutes of each other on the same day. It was the oven, more specifically damaged Teflon (non stick stuff). I would double check you don't have any Teflon products used anywhere near birds. Even just burning-in a new oven/grill will mess them up. Also, anecdotally, my parents smoked indoors for years and it never had any affect on them, which makes me doubt it would be people outside the apartment smoking that would hurt them. It could be, of course, but be wary of other things is what I'm trying to say. Hopefully your birds recover!

What Luke is dealing with is why I NEVER take any free temporary offer with any company that already has my billing info. That and most of the time whatever they are offering I couldn't give an F about and even if was something I thought I might use it was never enough for the hassle of me having to worry about setting a reminder and calling customer service.

2:25:00 Actually my parents have a Vizio "smart tv" that recently pushed an update that broke HDMI functionality for their satellite receiver. They have to unplug and plug the HDMI cable in every single boot. So given this I would heavily agree and would rather just have a little stick to plug into the TV that handles smart functionality if you want it. They actually watch netflix so not having it connected wasn't an option and it updated on its own.

The bird story made me remember our birds as kids. We had these awesome budgies that were so nice and happy and would fly around our place and sit on our shoulders. One day we realised they were getting out by lifting the cage door, so tied them down with those plastic/wire twines. Needless to say they started eating the twine to remove it and the plastic killed them. Was so sad. The only bird that survived was lucky our Cockatiel.

When Luke is talking about "Continental U.S." 1:39:10 it actually refers to the "Contiguous U.S." meaning all states that can be driven to without entering foreign territory. Someone else can correct me if I'm mistaken.

My ISP in Mexico updates it's plans automatically. So when they update the plan everyone gets more MBs. I went from 200mbs to 400mbs to 1gigabit automatically over the years. That's how it's supposed to be done.

I worked in low voltage/security for years; it's really cool that you're offering security sets for people like us that use them on a daily basis.

That was an awesome response from Sarah! I do hope you guys can/will keep the Lab32 branding because it's just such a cool name imo, with the Chrono trigger reference, the logo looks SICK, and that you can turn LTT into Lab32 instead of Linus Tech Tips. But whatever you decide to go with, I'm sure it's gonna be awesome regardless. Also, those Lab22 tech stands look dope! I might need to pick one of those up!

I know Luke's pain. This exact same thing happened to me in the UK and the rep tried to gaslight me. I'd been with BT for something like 7 years and every 18 months to 2 year. The guy was like "we haven't done that in years" ... Yeah 2. The exact length of my contract. Refused to accept that it was pretty negative to just stop doing it but also wouldn't move on to tell me what they could do now.

Just got a 50% reduction in my ISP bill due to the conversation about Telus.

that "forever is a kind of slow" cought me off guard and sent me to the floor laughing xD

The whole house upgrade series is way way way more of a money flex, than buying tools for the company, that directly benefit us as consumers of this media.. Sooo yeah flex away in that direction PLEASE 😁

I'm the admin for one of my places of work, we had Telus Security. I reached out to them for an upgrade to my services after realizing my employer had made no changes to security for a decade... Would've been better equipment and service for a better price too. They said the sales team would call me... Long story short, 2 months later and me following up 3 times, I cancelled my service with them and have a new provider now. They called me the day my service changed hands to see how they could help me upgrade. Telus isn't interested in changing plans, even at your request, if they currently make more money for less service on you.

Can I say, I appreciate the wan show not having ads, beyond the 30 second-1min sponsors section. Thank you for doing this, and thank god it works for you financially.

Your floor sounds like a job for the Dremel to me, I'm pretty sure you could do it yourself. You could even use a circular saw, set the depth stopper to -.5mm of the board thickness, use masking tape to protect the surface of the laid boards, and cut just in from the edge. Once the center is out you should be able to un-latch what's left and yeet it out leaving a perfect edge. You will need to cut the tongue sides of the tongue-and-groove off of the fitting board carefully mind...a lot of that composite/ply splinters further in than you'd think.

Almost 3 hours to find out Linus farts bad and Luke sneezes loud. Time well spent.

On the Vesa Certification, one thing they can do is once they have a full suite of ratings for the Different aspects you look at for a TV, so like HDR, Clarity, Responsiveness, etc. then what you do is put the device in the Default (Manufacturer recommended) settings and that is what ALL the ratings are determined by instead of letting them optimize for HDR at the expense of something else and get a Peak HDR rating.

54:20 - Looking forward to the mouse tester! Sick of crap switches that fail by doubleclicking or not clicking at all. :/

I love the length of the shows, merch messages included. It's fun to get little takes and nuggets of wisdom that arise from MM questions.

As for the lab, once you own this kind of equipment and have a knowledgeable team of engineers and testers, you could also offer services to manufacturers or even local certifications as a part of the ROI if you are willing to jump through these hoops

I relate to Lukes ISP story, but for me I had to call and cancel. Their "canceling" department" is actally internally called the "Win back dept", because their job is to win back their customers. Had a standing reminder on my phone to cancel every year, and every year I did and get either the same deal or a better deal. Sadly my housing cooperative decided to make a deal with them for all of us and now I'm paying slightly less for half the speed =(

Project farm LTT driver review coming soon! I believe he’s currently the most trusted tool reviewer on RU-vid. Really looking forward to it. I’m hoping he like usual tests it against other big brands in the game, to verify that it actually is the best. If it survives testing and works just like advertised, I’m getting one.

Can you retroactively disable the tracking by apple ? What happens if during installation or first startup of the apple appstore can you say no to tracking and still use your device or the appstore ?

I think, in regards to the new clarity rating system, they should give two scores. One being a score with no special features turned on and then one with everything the display can do to improve the clarity turned on. A standard score and an optimized score.

Would you consider doing a package including the screwdriver and one of each bit set for around the $120 CAD mark

Looking forward to the Lab 27 collab between both teams :)

The Ethernet testing is very appreciated. I work in pro audio and live event production and many adapters don’t meet CAT specifications the way you’d expect them to.

Labs should be called "Lab Tec 10", would work with both "LTT" and "LTX"

The malicious compliance by the telis service I'm dying 😂

I still have a hard time believing any statement that begins with “Valve will”. Not because I don’t believe they mean it, but because no matter how badly they want to release something, there’s pretty strong precedence for such plans being overruled by some new, exciting project that also will probably never see the light of day (unless it gets picked back up and restarted so many times it eventually sees completion 10-15 years down the line).

When they were talking about Starlink V2 and Luke said "penetration", Linus did that eyebrow thing at the exact same yime as myself and I lost it. xD

Love the longer WAN Shows!! Even if some topics not tech related it's still a nice insight into different things

I can definitely insert the company Xfinity into that equation. The difference is they've NEVER called me to upgrade my service. Instead they do the tried and true tactic of treating their existing customers like shit by slowly raising the bill every few months while keeping internet speed the same.

Good morning from Denmark everyone. Another Saturday, another cup of delicious coffee and another Wan show awaiting. Have a great day!

Were there any thoughts of putting a wrench or ratchet-socket to the handle of the screwdriver? I sometimes come to situations where i need a bit more force then my hands can handle and i own some screwdrivers with a hole in the top where i stick another screwdriver into to have this extra force.

With the screwdriver back order release timing, initially I had the same thought Luke expressed, that if people want to wait a few days they can just wait, but then it occurred to me that for people who want to wait until people have a chance to bring it home and test it might be influenced to buy sooner to not miss the first wave of deliveries, so it might be more fair to them to let them get in sooner (even if the expectation of when wave 1 will sell out isn’t that soon, at least it helps remove the perception that they might miss out from waiting).

Some ISP came in and tore up my neighborhood laying fiber a few years ago and they ended up being awesome. I have gigabit at a cheap rate and it’s locked to that price for life. Now maybe in 10 years I’ll need to move up to a faster speed but for now gigabit is still way faster than I need and I won’t have to worry about my bill going up or negotiating anything until I need a faster speed way down the road.

In NZ, gigabit fiber with 1-2ms to my nearest Internet exchanges. Usually like 960Mb/s down and 700Mb/s up. Not common that servers actually let you download at full speed, but when they do it's pretty sweet. It's been this way since the centre right govt years ago decided to roll out fiber nationwide, so there's a single provider for the media, and ISPs then pay to use it. They're now adding multi gigabit plans in some areas.

Hardwood-floor: a note of caution is when cutting out parts of the floor you can fix issues (be them cosmetic or level or what not) you CAN have a severe degradation of the floors structure. Since the new / added parts are just glued instead of actually fit into place which what ever mechanisms the food structure uses.

I like the merch messages because they often prompt a lot of good discussion segments, and theyre just a good way to have some level of direct interaction with the audience.

Linus excited about working on an assembly line is hilarious to me

LMFAOOOO THE NEW INTRO

Luke, in my 18 story apartment building the smells (cigarette, cigar, or weed smoke, even paint, food, or cleaning odors) come in through the bathroom exhaust fans when they're off (kitchen fans vent into the kitchen) because our bathrooms vent into a common, community shared air & duct space. I turn on my bathroom fans when they're needed. However, I know of buildings with similar common A/C intakes and/or exhausted.

You gotta learn to game the ISP's back. Their best rates are for "Introductory offers" so the best option is to sign up for a plan with a locked in rate for 1-2 years but, isn't part of a contract so that when your introductory rate expires you just cancel for no fee because you're not under contract and then just re-up with a new introductory offer. Telus sounds like it was basically doing that for you, which is awesome. But, based on my experience with ISP's in the US that is not the norm. Most will gladly let your rate expire and start charging you "normal" rates without notifying you.

The new intro is awesome - Linus' laughing in the background was hilarious

I could get used to these 3 hour shows. Keep them coming.

To comment on the length of the shows, I personally absolutely noticed the difference. I started watching the WAN show during the pandemic and they were always between 45-1:15 long, but once you moved back to the studio they've almost all been 2+ hours, its awesome because I love watching the show and longer show means more content!

Ive missed asking live on WAN live like three times now so here goes : is it possible to use the compute power and electricity of the GPU etc test for something like FoldingAtHome or the SETI project? Or maybe just straight up crypto mining? Might as well dual-use all that top tier compute power.

The Wan show has become my absolute favorite piece of content every week this year, but it’s less “oh yeah let listen to some tech talk” and more “let’s get spicy”

Usually the term "contiguous" is used to mean the connected 48 states of the US. I don't think I've ever seen the term continental used to mean the 48 states.

My youtube app crashed for some reason and I scrolled to a random point I thought was close to when it crashed and it was literally the same sentence.... Love it

i love putting your guys' stream on my third monitor while i work on code xD it makes for good background noise!

52:25 - there's just a lot more inherent risks to buying used mining gpus. Like I got one that I thought would be safe, it is the gigabyte water Force 6900 xt. It has the built-in water block, you think that would repel miners? No. I got one that what they did is they took the block off, flash the bios, put on an air cooler, mined on it, put the block back on, and sold it as new - open box. Thankfully at least they activated the warranty so I was able to send it to gigabyte and they have fixed it. They didn't have to I mean it was secondhand, and mined on, so I'll give them credit for that. It would not play full screen applications, and I knew the BIOS got tampered with because I tried flashing the one off of the website and it said there was a size mismatch, even though the BIOS was exactly the same, so it would not flash. And there is no selector switch so I couldn't just flash it from another bios.

I never had any issues with our ISP in Switzerland.. paying 66 CAD for 10 gbit. I think it’s a pretty solid deal

Would you want to do a video on fixing my 2 year old pc ryzen 3700x 2070 super has stutter moments vram usage out the roof then bare minimum can’t figure out what’s wrong with it I bought it prebuilt because I’m no tech genius just lmk if you’re interested

The thing about scores is that they set at standard which companies can follow and strive to achieve better. It gives them a tool to measure their products. Good examples of this are the Ifixit scores, the safety rating for cars and environmental scores for refrigerators, freezers, washing machines etc.. All of the mentioned fields have improved drastically because companies can now test and measure their products following a standard scale. So scores actually can help a lot to further a cause. It is different when it comes to cultural products such as games, movies, music and books. They are more difficult to score as they are not alike. Scoring Super Mario and Uncharted on the same scale does not make sense while scoring two computers definitely does.

Gotta give Linus props, he's a clever man. Dragging the stream out for 3 hours because he knows people are waiting to hear his take on GN's video and then never addressing it. Touche

I honestly like your guy's thumbnails and titles. They are catchy and witty most of the time, and definitely catch my eye and get me interested in what the video is about. It also helps that you guys don't do blatant click bait imo, where the title says something that isn't in the video at all. That type of click bait is really annoying, but In my opinion, I think LTT does a good job of walking that line of creating an interesting thumbnail and title, while keeping the content true to what the title says.

Oh I work in EU as Local ISP's call center agent for data problems. I am so happy that last year we migrated all customers to the current portfolio. Everybody hated it. Lawyers had books with different contracts and price lists, I had to know several years of ISP portfolio with prices and speeds and special discounts, people were unhappy when the 2 year period ended like Luke's and there were later better products. The only bad thing is that the company risks reduction of the customer base because you have to give them a free way out of the contract but it is so worth it on every level.

I think I'll start compiling the "I don't know" and "huu" of Luke, they're getting truly hilarious.

here in Australia we have Telstra which is a monster of a telco in size (basically owned the entire countries adsl network, and still owns most of the biggest cellular network) and they are legendarily known as boing one of the worst companies in Aussie history for customer service. But when Telstra is all you have and gives the beast network reliability, you have to sacrifice

Luke’s experience with not knowing the bill had raised for a period of time is why I use auto pay on nothing. I have notifications on my calendar to go pay my bills online. It may cost a few dollars because so don’t get the ‘auto pay discount.’ But is it a discount if you end up paying for something you didn’t want?

I just can't stop seeing Linus's shirt as a Renault shirt.

will the bits work in other screw drivers that arnt LTT. if so do the bits have LTT on them so you atleast know its from LTT as well?

33:00 (ish) - When talking about new standards, it's important to keep in mind that the standards groups are almost always made up of manufacturers of the products that use them. That makes them MARKETING standards. That means that if a good portion of the manufacturers involved are incapable of using a new standard as an advantageous marketing feature, it will not become a new standard from that standards group. This is why so many new standards are misleading - it's done to mislead customers into thinking that a product is better than it actually is.

They should call it Lab Tech Testing

2:49:46 luke, i know how it is, i have the same.. when i go full sneeze attack, it's loud, it much and it sucks. like 8 times full send, 3 times a day was not weird for me, in hindsight obviously it wasn't ok, and turned out it was due to dust allergy in combination with hay fever(great combi, cannot reccomend), so anti-allergy pills helped a lot. but still when i go, i GO i legit have woken people up with sneezing

There are good ISPs, but usually it's the local ones, at least where I live. I'm with my ISP for about 7 years now, and only had one down time for 2 days because somebody cut the fibre during construction work. I pay 39,99€ a month for lifetime fibre with 500 Mbit. They gave me the router for a one time payment of 19,99€ and it's mine now. And even tough I don't watch TV, it's included also. I probably will never change my ISP.

Even with this I still think lab32 is an amazing name

While I can understand the people seeing the PSU tester video as bragging or whatever, they are buying the labs equipment to get better and more information about these products that we all buy and the equipment to do that testing isn't cheap. Are there possibly cheaper options for the equipment? maybe but isn't it better to have equipment that goes further than needed than getting the cheaper (but still expensive equipment) knowing that the data might be incomplete even though the missing data probably doesn't matter The better the info we all have the better value we can all get for our money, letting us buy the best product for our budget with the features that matter most to us. This is why I follow GN & HUB and welcome any other players to the actual data review section and not the I've used this for a couple of days and I liked it reviews No matter what you think LTTs motives for showing off the equipment they are buying is, we will be getting better data out of it

at 25:05 I thought it was a total transition to a sponsor shoutout... LOL

I'm so glad Luke had the same issue with his ISP that I did. I found out that I've been paying for cable for like 8 months, and was never offered a cable box. We recently got fiber in our area, and have never been so happy to give Mr. Cable the boot!

I get that it's not in the cards right now, but I really hope a "continued success" roadmap involves a European LTT store. I bought some stuff including the backpack (also as a payment for 10-ish years of solid entertainment), and while I like the shirt designs this was definitely a one time splurge. Between Canadian tax, shipping, import fees and Dutch tax I paid double the listed price.

Don't ask don't tell approach from the USA army...well it worked for them so well

"Thank you Auto" reminds me of Thank you Otto from the Happy House 2 english book i used 11 years ago to learn english

In the UK... ISP Virgin Media wont even allow existing customers to view the web pages of offers that they offer to new customers instead diverting your browser to pages that they want to offer you at effectively full price for TV, Phone and Broadband. I had to use my mobile wifi cloud as a router to be able to view the new customer pages.

Luke’s story is just a wake up call to compare your internet plans. While you’re at it also check on your phone plan as well.

In regards to the expensive lab equipment, my first thought was "Damn, that's expensive" not "Fukin Linus Flexing" I think the problem is people are always going to want to hate and bring you down because they perceive you to be doing better than them. Personally, I say Fuck those toxic people. Even if you were flexing, you earned it. you put in the work and earned your money. Enjoy it and spend it however you want.

Totally feel ya! Linus is correct about ISPs seem to be all the same. I just went through this with Comcast

NGL, the Lab 32/Chrono Trigger angle? Love it. You guys should have a sort of "robot" mascot to go with it to help sell shirts and alike, ie. always having an inspirational source for artwork. Just don't name him Robo. Or Prometheus. BUT what would be cool is a sort of 1950s design, like the Lost In Space design that'd FIT with the whole "1999AD" theme, after building onto the 1950s base. It'd make for awesome merch marketing ability, as well as just overall theming.

I'm with Virgin broadband in the UK, I called a few months ago and they told me cancelling the contract wasn't an option and nor was getting a cheaper option. When I called back and told them I was leaving and would just stop paying it if they didn't let me they offered me faster internet at like half the cost; fuck ISP's frfr

Dude Dennis is going to damage something else if you let him do chores at your house !

Yep. Comcast/Xfinity calls me every other year to do the same kind of deals. I feel like you get this when you use all your own equipment.

Well can we get an hdr 800 spec so there's less ambiguity in hdr 600? Essentially have them 200 apart?