When I first looked at the new Missiles on the Iranian F-14 I thought they were pretty poor in comparison to what was already there. After checking out their full stats, turns out I was very wrong
The Sedjil and the fakour-90 have the same motor, the former is a SAM missile adapted to the f-14, while the ladder is the AIM-54 adapted with the sedjil’s motor
My friend said he wasnt gonna grind this jet since he cant find the time for it atm (he is a massive F14 fan) so since I'm on vacation I hopped in his account and grinded it for him (just first stage at the time of this comment but we'll get there eventually). Wish me luck as I try to prevent him from regretting not doing it
They should detailed stats card in the game for each munition you could look up. Most of the time what is said in stat cards is not representative of the truth
Yeah the stat cards for missiles aren’t helpful at all. Missing stats like burn time, lofting angle, and effective range (lock/launch range is usually wayyy farther than the missile is actually capable of reaching)
the Fakour and the Sedjil missiles are both modified MIM-23 Hawk surface to air missiles that have been modified to be air to air, the Sedjil is a bit of an earlier variant and more of a stop-gap weapon while the Fakour was being developed fully as an ARH missile.
the problem with the Fakour-90 is that it actually has a shorter burn time, so it actually will star losing it's speed sooner than an aim-54a, the increased weight will also really hurt it at these extended ranges because it will take MUCH more speed to keep it aloft. the sedjil will be really funny though because people will just be thinking an f-14a tried a moonshot with a sparrow
Actually stats say other wise people have already tested the missile it reaches higher speed a lot faster and slowly increases even faster an excess of at times near Mach 5 also pulls less fin aoa which means less speed bleed and it’s increased weight helps with intertia going downwards
People have tested it, the Fakour is actually just better than the Phoenix at those far ranges (50ish km), having a much shorter TTT (time to target), and it does maintain a good speed for the entire time the sustainer is burning. It took the Fakour 46 seconds to travel 45 km, that’s just slightly over 1km a second, the Phoenix on the other hand, tool well over a minute to travel that far. Overall, it’ll just be a really funny, goofy missile to use 😂
except its sustainer makes it keep speed, so it gets up to high speed in 5 seconds, and maintains that high speed for 21 seconds, the aim-54 spends 30 seconds accelerating very slowly, then falls off, it also has less delta V the fakour is a sedjil flight performance wise, they fly almost the same The fakour is faster than the aim-54 at 5 seconds than the aim-54 is at 30 seconds (peak aim54 speak) Its also faster at 30 seconds than aim-54 is despite having run out of fuel for 5 seconds earlier The smaller diameter and higher weight also means it retains energy better
Not true, people have tested it already, it keeps its energy much better than the phoenix. Currently the best long range BVR missile for the Time-to-target. It not only reaches the target first ( @60km+) but it will also have a much greater terminal velocity (+M0.80 compared to the 54A)
The only thing I already don't like about the plane is the AIM-9P as the only short-range missiles, they have pretty decent manueverability, but the engine working time is trash, and that means you can't succesfully launch that missile above 2 km from the enemy.
I mean, the Sedjil is literally just the precursor of the Fakour. The Iranians took a MIM-23 and first modified it to be a SARH, then a ARH missile to replace their Phoenixes with a design they could produce locally. There's differing opinions on how similar they are IRL, but in WT, they are the exact same missile with different guidance systems, so the Sedjil is just a worse Fakour.
The sedjil is actually a missile used in an Iranian SAM but due to the USA not giving them aim 7's they converted the sedjil to a AIR2AIR missile to save cost
I'd like the Fakour to be the counter to the Aim 54A/C. It'll force them to take evasive maneuvers before their missiles go pitbull or risk taking a splash just to maintain TWS lock until Pitbull mode.
Fun fact. Sedjil was a ground-to-air missile that was modified to be launched from air. The reason it was modified was to replace phinixes because iran ran out of phinixes but the iran iraq war was not over yet
Well the T-72M2 is worth like $300GJN and i don't think that thing has the same demand as something like a rank VIII Iranian F-14 Tomcat in the U.S tree, I would honestly not be surprised if this thing ends up being worth $350-$400GJN in 2-3 years. I will 100% be picking this thing up and getting the coupon upgrade for it for this reason.
This is absolutely going to destroy any and all match making when it comes out. GRB is going to be M22 and this F14 ARB is going to be this with people not knowing how to use radar and dying instantly. Somehow USA is going to get even worse
I have ~60 Gainjin Credits, Is it better to purchase the stages (50 credits) then? As i'm aware I will not be able to purchase the stages when this item can be sold. and I would love not to spend all the 60
Lately I've been grinding SL's with my F4 S and I've found Tomcats are my best friends as I've found going high and staying behind them by a few kilometers is the best way to avoid getting sniped by any enemies going high while I bonk them from 20-40k out before hunting low enemies. I know most people joust with it but I can reliably get 2-3 kills going high and sniping with the AIM 7E
im seeing a lot of misinformation on missles in this chat so if u wanna know here is the info the fakour is the iranian produced aim54 because they can no longer buy them they made there own the sedjil is a iranian produced mim-23 hawker sam witch iran used when they ran out of aim54 missles and it worked really well so they made there own and the yasser is a us 750lb bomb strapped onto a hawker motor and used as a missle
F14A seems to have quite a bit worse of a RWR than the f14B. Bit sad if this ends up in 12.3 rather than 12.7 Then again, since the f14A is completely busted at 12.3 maybe its ok
@@explosivecommando9100 I'll admit, Im only in rank V on American TT so I never played it. I have however played multiple planes at 11.3-12.0 with RWRs ranging from shit to pretty Ok. It matters a huge deal in those BRs. I saw that they have different RWRs and that Zenturion (youtuber) said the f14A models RWR isn't that good. And that scared me since I really wanted this f14 from event. I'm not an expert at this tbh. Can confirm that the f5e fcu has a better RWR than more modern Soviet planes that it faces, so maybe it'll still be fine since the f14 is still American.
Anything below 12.3 would be insane, the F14A is already dominating at 12.3, I can’t imagine it lower. But you are right, the F14B has a much better rwr, but the original F14A has the same rwr this one has, so there’s no reason to put it anywhere other than 12.3
Fakout more like get the fuck out of here I’m so hype for this thing, I’m right about to start researching top tier US after I get my F4E and was gonna get a f14 to start but now I’ll do the f15
No, it should be atleast 12.3 or even 12.7 due to its fox3s working like modern fox3s. The regular F-14A is dominating at 12.3, it should be already 12.7. Stop being a blind us main.
The R one is the slowest of all Sarhs at that br but has a 35G overload Plus it lacks the sustainer of the ER so it's overall range is more inline with an E2 DF
@@ivanvukadin3194 it has worse range actually, and it cant pull its 35g because it falls out of the air after the motor burns out, and while the motor is burning its G overload is like 20 to 25 at best.
