Fun reaction - I adore this movie. It bugs me when people say it's "Stockholm Syndrome" bc that would be if Belle changed/lowered her standards and accepted him as the rude ragemonster, changing herself to fit him. No, in this movie, she held onto her standards, and he had to change to live up to them. That's the opposite.
I'm in the same boat as you! It was definitely not Stockholm Syndrome by any means. I highly recommend you watch Cinema Therapy's insight on this movie because they actually dive into the psychology of the movie and discuss how it doesn't relate to Stockholm Syndrome at all.
@@jediavatarmage072 I mean...technically, they did end up confirming that it was Stockholm Syndrome...but by its true definition and not the misconstrued one everyone's been using over the years.
Beauty and the Beast: Beast releases Maurice with the promise that Belle stays with him. He has to save her life, learn some manners, and do nice things for her unprovoked before she starts to warm up to him. He also at one point lets her go with no prospect of her returning. Actual Stockholm Syndrome: Captor keeps his victim by force, and demands that he/she appeases the captor, and the captor rewards good behavior if he/she feels like it. TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS!!!
I think there’s a huge misconception about the rose. People think that when they say the rose blooms until the Beast’s 21st birthday, that it immediately wilts post that time. That isn’t the case. The rose STARTS to wilt upon the 21st birthday, meaning that it could be wilting for years before the last petal falls. So it’s very likely the Beast was older than 11 when he was cursed.
Except that Lumiere says in Be our Guest that "ten years we've been rusting..." And if the rose is supposed to bloom until his twenty first year, that would solidly put him at eleven when he was cursed. And, Lumiere also said "but the rose has already begun to wilt" as if it was a new thing.
It's pretty obvious that time froze in the castle when the curse was casted upon it. Otherwise how would you explain Chip? He's seven years old. Also, the painting that Beast tears down clearly shows him as an adult.
@@hummus_exual My thinking was that, since the servants were turned into inanimate objects, time was "frozen" for THEM. But, since the curse was primarily meant for the Beast (Prince Adam), he aged normally.
I always interpreted it as his 21st year of being a beast. That in the beginning he was hopeful about the curse bring broken, but after ten years he fell in despair and isolated himself and therefore the servants didn't really anything hence ten years we've been rusting. This goes alone with them not aging.
MoviesInDepth: “Personality Matters.” MoviesInDepth literally at the end of the movie: (comments about the looks of the protagonist while weighing his assessment)
It's a pretty common opinion that Human!Beast is probably one of the less attractive princes; he does still fit the general time and place, so the accuracy is there but... yeah, it led to a lot of young and teen girls having to unravel finding the beast form more appealing. Rude, Disney. Pay for my therapy. Or own up to instigating an era of monster romance writers and readers.
Ever since I was a kid this has been my favorite Disney movie. It is a lot of fun and teaches a great lesson about judging people by who they are and not what they look like. So glad you saw it and enjoyed it.
Friendly reminder that this version is Howard Ashmans swan song. Much of the beasts struggles came directly from Ashmans own struggles with AIDS. If you listen really close to Kill the Beast, you can actually hear how it plays into this narrative.
I love this movie I literally had the dress, the crown, the rose, I have a necklace that has a book and rose, literally Belle is the reason I love reading and France, I had Mrs. pots and chip
People often say that the beast's human form isn't amazing looking but honestly I've always appreciated it the most out of all the Disney princes as it best matches the origin of the story it comes from. The story comes from french folklore and the original writer was french and so I feel his appearance distinctly matches that.
I think it’s also fitting that he isn’t a stereotypical drop-dead-gorgeous prince considering the story’s overarching theme of inside v. outside beauty. He’s still good-looking though.
@@thomaslamy465 Different cultures (and different time periods) have different perceptions of beauty. What's fitting here is that this prince is VERY attractive in the country and time period he's from. Which works really well, he looks exactly like I'd expect an idealized French man from the middle ages to look.
The rose is supposed to stop when he turns 21, but in be out guest, lumiere says “10 years we’ve been rusting” that means that apparently the enchantress cursed a literal 11 year old…
Yep! I'm always had LOTS of questions to that enchantress. Actually...What the fuck? Well, this settle pretty good with old cruel versions of fairy tales though.
@@anib8863 I really can't stop laughing every time I remember, Disney was like, "well let's make happy end there!...But what about lil crossover with Lovecraft "Call of Ctulhu" before? Stab that giant octobitch with ship! Muahahaha!"
My family has always loved this movie. My mom and dad’s wedding was beauty and the beast themed, and my parents are somehow both really similar to Belle and The Beast. But growing up I could never watch the scene where we first meet the beast in this version. It took me 14 years before I could watch the whole movie.
beauty and the beast actually came out in 1991 not the 80's (the little mermaid is what came out in 1989), and yes it is an absolute classic! your commentary was killing me xD
Belle has always been one of my favorite leads. She knew people thought she was odd but didn't really care. For example with Gaston dismissing her love of reading while the Beast gave her whole library.
Fun Fact: Chip is voiced by Bradley Pierce, who also voiced Tails in Sonic SatAM and The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog. He also starred in The Borrowers, and the original Jumanji!
Here's the cool thing: if you look into the historical context of this story, it actually explains almost everything. Example: she's the quirky girl that doesn't fit in because she wasn't born there. She still remembers Paris. Which they sort of touched on in the remake.
@@memyselfandi7782 they don't have to. It's from the original story. Her father was a merchant that lost everything because of a storm, so they settled in the town.
@@videohistory722 There are hundreds of versions of the 'original story.' The oldest one was Chinese. The oldest French one does not talk about Belle not fitting in. Here it os clear Belle does not fit in because she is an intellectual, not because she is an urban woman. And the remake just made Belle into one of those 2009 girls who thinks going to Paris solves all problems.
I'm loving how you're watching disney classics rn, more reaction channels should do that! Btw, i asked that some time ago, but have you ever watched "mirror mirror"? Is not from disney but is like a snow white spin-off, and it is just AMAZING, and also so underrated! If you never watched, please do, i think you would love it, believe me.
To answer your question, The prince was twenty one when he was cursed. He was then a beast for twenty one years. So technically he’s 41 to 42 for the story, but his human form was paused while he was cursed so essentially he’s only 21. As a side note, Lumier says that they haven’t entertained for ten years. And the beast thinks Maurice came to gawk at him. So who was it that came to the castle ten years prior, enjoyed a feast, gawked at the beast, and ran away? Considering Gaston led the townspeople right to the castle, I think it’s safe to say it was him.
To answer the “how old was he” thing, the stained-glass at the beginning clearly shows that the prince was at least 16 or so. If the rose blooms until his 21st year and starts to wilt then, that means it bloomed for 5 years, and to me, it makes sense that the wilting process would take just as long. 5 years of blooming+5 years of wilting=10 years. Another explanation is that Lumiere was exaggerating and that it’s only been 3-5 years. Since Lumiere has a flair for the dramatic, I wouldn’t doubt this at all.
He was 21 when he was cursed. The rose bloomed for 21 years, so he was a beast for 21 years, and his human self paused. When the curse was lifted, he was transformed back into his 21 year old self. Technically he’s 42 but essentially he’s just 21.
In regards to the discrepancy between the picture and Luminere's song, I was listening to a podcast with the director of the movie that explains it. Ashman, the lyrcist of the movie, wanted him to be a child when cursed because that's how it is in the classic french tale. The director wanted him to be a teenager, 16-18. Otherwise, it would make the enchantress seem cruel. Apparently they never came to an agreement. The aforementioned discrepancy was a result of this.
4:38 - Yes, this. I've ridden for years and when you're not in a safe enclosed space the horse should be kept a close eye on. I was having a terrible trek (horse did not want to play ball), got her to settle just as we were heading back down from a mountain when she started playing up again for no reason. Yeah, some moron on a mountain bike came out of the steep scrub and ploughed into the middle of the group of horses. FUN.
@@StoryMing a little bit of both. They have different articles on what the Prince’s name so I really couldn’t tell you which article was real and one wasn’t
There is also a tv show very loosely based on that tv show , by cw. It also had the main characters named Vincent and Catherine. The CW's version is the version I saw first after the Disney classic and really liked it , so when I heard that it was very loosely based not on the Disney classic , but a different tv show by the same name , I was intrigued. Now I can say that I have added the 1987 version to the VERY small list of GOOD "Beauty and the Beast type stories".
7:13 Horses have a superhuman sense of smell. While not as good as a dog’s, they can effectively use it to track their human companions (among other things).
The book Belle reads and describes to the book seller is Aladdin. I forget if it was confirmed or just a really popular fan theory, but it fits if you think about it
@@scarlett5247 I heard it was Aladdin because Disney often hints at their next movie, and Aladdin came out a year after Beauty and the Beast. Belle also mentions far off places (Agrabah compared to France), daring sword fights (when the guards are chasing and fighting Aladdin), magic spells (the Genie turning Aladdin into a prince, and Jafars magic), and a prince in disguise (Aladdin pretending to be a prince). Belle also sings "Here's where she meets Prince Charming, but she won't discover the it's him 'til chapter 3." Jasmine meets Aladdin when she sneaks out of the palace, but doesn’t see him again until he’s a prince who wants to be with her. This is the most popular theory on her book I’ve found. Some people think it might be Sleeping Beauty (but I think the chapter three line makes that kinda unlikely unless belles book only has three chapters), and some people think it’s just foreshadowing.
It's believed the beast was 12 or 13 when the curse took place. The boy was practicing stranger danger, lol. Also, when this film was first aired it was only the voice acting and sketch art, and it got a standing ovation as incomplete as it was. Update: he was actually 11 still close enough to be messed up.
The prince was 21 when he was cursed. His human self was then paused while he was a beast for 21 years. So in the end, technically he is 42, but essentially, he is just 21. For the first 11 years of the curse, people would stills go to the castle and get scared away by the beast. I suspect Gaston was one such adventurous youth. He was obsessed with k*lling animals and knew exactly where the castle was.
In "The Enchanted Christmas," the Beast has a flashback of that night with the enchantress, and he appears much older than 11-13. Perhaps 15 or 16 would be a more believable age.
In regards to the discrepancy between rhe picture and Luminere's song, I was listening to a podcast with the director of the movie that explains it. Ashman, the lyrcist of the movie, wanted him to be a child when cursed because that's how it is in the classic french tale. The director wanted him to be a teenager, 16-18. Otherwise, it would make the enchantress seem cruel. Apparently they never came to an agreement. The aforementioned discrepancy was a result of this.
Okay your quips were on point in this video "That chin of his could be classified as a weapon" "There's this thing called consent and you don't have it" "It's either enchanted or I'm HIGH" 😂
This is my favorite Disney animated movie of all time. The music, the story, the characters, the voice actors, true love changing someone for the better, and so much more. Its an amazing story and will always have a place in my heart. Fun fact the movie was nominated for best picture bc the category for best animated film didn’t exist yet. It’s the best!
6:03 Back in the day? It's 2D animation. It doesn't matter that it was "back in the day." Just because things are 3d nowadays doesn't automatically make them better. I WISH we still had 2D animation in movies like this, but, Toy Story kinda killed it.
loved this one as a kid, still love it as an adult. great video! :) I'd love you to see react to Pocahontas and a live action Peter Pan (with Jeremy Sumpter, Rachel Hurd-Wood and Jason Isaacs) :)
The devolution of Gaston is interesting. While he's never a sympathetic character, in the first half he's little more than a stupid jerk, more funny than frightening, almost in the 'lovable goof' category. In the second act, obsessed with his rejection of Belle, he becomes more dangerous and frightening, and, especially, more an active agent, preparing to have Maurice put away, leading the anthem to hatred, 'Kill the Beast', and ultimately stabbing said Beast in the back in an act of bestiality and cowardice. As the Beast becomes more human, Gaston becomes more the beast (as, of course, the script tells us explicitly). I wonder how the actors for Gaston in the stage productions approach it. In the first act, they want Gaston to get laughs; in the second act, they want the audience to cheer at his demise (in the film, I think, Le Fou abandons this Gaston). This might not be easy, especially for less experienced actors, e.g., in high school productions.
tbh i think it's fitting that the beast's human form isn't the most gorgeous ever. this probably wasn't intended, since story-wise beast was meant to be very handsome and that contributed to his bad attitude and ego pre curse. but it actually fits better with the theme of the story that he isn't _that_ handsome. it's perfect that he turned out to be a nice-looking but mostly average guy, bc belle doesn't care either way. it was never his appearance that she fell for in the first place, that won't change now that he's human. but yeah, the live action was good, but it can't hold a candle to the animated! belle and her dress are too iconic, and the songs are truly magical.
I am into women and even i say when he get turned back to human: "You look better before" :P Well, let's faced it folks. Gaston is aweful. But Beast (His name is supposed to be Adam btw.) ? And if you're watching the Beauty and the Beast - Enchanted Chrismas, and seeing what Adam do there.. that makes this relationship even more aweful. Not aweful as the 2017 RL version but worse enough. The best version of this story (in my eyes) in the Beauty and the Beast from Christophe Gans (french production) from 2014. And the only version of this story, were they take care of the sourcematerial.
I was actually caught off guard when I saw you decided to do this movie!😮 Surprisingly enough, Beauty and The Beast is actually my childhood movie!😊 Belle is my favorite Disney princess, among others of course!😋 Her romantic relationship with the Beast is nothing short of adorable, second best to Aladdin and Jasmine!⭐ How about you do Captain Underpants:The First Movie next? It's filled with hilarious amounts of comedy that people of all ages can enjoy!😃 Hope you're doing well, and Plus Ultra!❤️ Do you know that phrase?🙂
Prince was 11 years old! This whole "enchanters" story is a big plot hole! What did the servants do to her? They are just trying to earn a living. Easily fixed though: all they had to say was the prince pissed off an evil sorceress and she cursed him and the servants; Beast spend all this time blaming himself for everyone's hardship and turned antisocial. Easy!
He did. By telling her to piss off that winter night. My theory is that the enchantress was a fae creature, and they are notorious for cursing people at a drop of a hat. Remember Maleficent? Also a fae creature and she cursed a literal Baby to die at sixteen just because her parents didn't invite her to a party. Heck, in the original story she's even more petty, because the whole thing started because they had ran out of fancy place settings and they had the gall to give her one of the plain ones. With this in context, does it really surprise you that the 'enchantress' would curse a preteen and his entire staff, just because he was a little brat?
"Wait, so you don't mean to intrude but you wanna crash there for the night?!" Oh heck yeah! That was actually a thing back in the day - because horseback was basically the fastest mode of travel, you basically had to spend DAYS of traveling to get anywhere. If night fell and there wasn't an inn around you would have been SO fucked, so there was this wide-spread idea of hospitality; basically, you were supposed to let strangers crash in your house if they needed to. Sounds dangerous, and yeah, it totally was, but there were rules; the guest had to be gracious and try to make up for the intrusion by being helpful and/or providing the host with some kind of gift (if they could afford it) and the host was basically suppose to provide shelter and food, and neither was supposed to allow any harm to come to the other. It was necessary because otherwise travel was incredibly dangerous or outright impossible. And the necessity of it is why the concept of hospitality is so viciously protected in folklore - there are a lot of old gods who would FUCK YOU UP if you broke the rules of hospitality. A lot of fairy tales include that stuff too, like how Faeries can't hurt you in their homes or whatever - it's hospitality. It's why vampires can't enter your home uninvited - because someone who takes advantage of your hospitality (by, say, biting you in your sleep) is LITERALLY a leech-monster. Also that's why the Beast gets cursed in the first place; he was able to offer hospitality to the old lady and she provided him a gift in return as expected (and clearly couldn't afford anything more) and he was just a jerk and rejected her, which basically doomed her to die in the cold. That's literally what the enchantress is punishing him for - failing to adhere to the rules of hospitality.
this movie is just a classic and so wonderful, so let's just ignore the fact that belle fell in love with an animal without knowing he's actually human
The Beast (Prince Adam) was the first Disney prince who had negative traits; before, the princes were kind and heroic. After him, there were several Disney Princes who were selfish and/or arrogant (John Smith, Naveen, and Flynn Rider), though we did still have kind ones (Aladdin, Shang).
Haha, you're damn right about the ending.))) Me and literally every girl I know, regardless of whether they watched it as an adult or as a child, have always been unanimous in the opinion that he looked much cooler like the Beast than that "handsome" at the end: D What can I say? Little girls are not at all afraid of xenophilia, if there is some great personality behind, isn't this your lesson, Disney, why would you spoil it like that? XD Perhaps that is why George Lucas' animated film "Strange Magic", which is pretty cursed in some moments, has become such a kind guilty pleasure. This is a kind of "Beauty and the Beast 2.0", without the Stockholm syndrome and unnecessary transformations. It's not a real good movie. It has TOO MUCH popular songs, a little odd design and some other flaws ... But it also has good chemistry and creativity, it's really fun to watch, maybe you should try it sometime.
mmm.Why is everyone mad because he is not handsome?He is a normal looking french man and that's ok.The whole point of the movie is about not being superficial and him being an average european prince from the 1700's just feels right.About the Stockholm syndrome,it's not really the case in this movie
@@alexiacaceda1421 no-no, I don't tell he's not handsome. It's not the case. He's well drawn, just as every other Disney prince. But it's just the fact, that literally everyone I know, of every age, prefers design of Beast after all) Maybe if he would be more Beast-like human, not so classic, it would even work better. And yes, I see metaphor, and storytelling rules, like changes inside-->changes outside, etc. I just personally think, it could be little deeper by other way? And yes, of course it's story about changing man, someone really learning and becoming better person...But it still has some disturbing role models, cuz in real life this scenario most times looks much more ugly. And there's no need to deny it. I'm not agitate cancel every little unsettling plot or censor art any possible way, nope. But I'm also not gonna stop mocking for moments like that:)
@@sungunner6244 I get your point and I think this is definitely not a strong point of this movie.Even tho there's a lot of people who are a willing to change and grow for Their significant other, the majority of times it's a very different story. It's not Stockholm Syndrome tho because there's a lot of characteristics that this movie doesn't have
my cousin and her little kid just got a new puppy the other day and named her Belle!! she's super adorable and very brown i don't know what kind of dog except that she's a good one
The beast still looks the same now as he did when he transformed in the beginning of the story. His photo that Belle almost looked at was the same look. Some say he was 11 but I don’t believe that because in the photo he was already a man. My guess is he was between 16-18 & now he’s 26-28 if it really has been 10 years. Even the Years could have been exaggerated during “Be our Guest” but who really knows?!
In regards to the discrepancy between rhe picture and Luminere's song, I was listening to a podcast with the director of the movie that explains it. Ashman, the lyrcist of the movie, wanted him to be a child when cursed because that's how it is in the classic french tale. The director wanted him to be a teenager, 16-18. Otherwise, it would make the enchantress seem cruel. Apparently they never came to an agreement. The aforementioned discrepancy was a result of this.
Makes sense since it is a fairy tale after all, one that has many different versions. Punishing a spoiled 10 year old on the one hand explains why the beast is in arrested development. On the other hand, it also weakens the message of learning a lesson lol since it really was just a spoiled rich kid, which would be 100% expected for a prince. I prefer that version, but now I wonder if that was supposed to be bad luck in the first place or just an example of telling kids they need to be perfect or else.
beauty and the beast is like my favorite film of all time, inside of Disney and outside, also my fav aminated film. The film is better than the remake.
The book Belle was reading was actually an easter egg for Aladdin. "Far off places," fictional kingdom of Agrabah. "Daring sword fights," all the sword fighting references in the movie. "A prince in disguise." Aladdin disguised himself as a prince.
You might consider unrealistic how superficial everybody in that village was, admiring Gaston despite him being an absolute jerk... but remember, this was literally a backwater village. Mere *literacy* was considered to be ODD! For such simple, close-minded people, being strong, hunting and looks, was all that mattered.
