I watercooled Phils personal gaming rig... but something is wrong with it. 

Phil hosted videos on JayzTwoCents channel are literally PHILler content.

Phil making a joke on his own name and cracking up good about it just made my day

The only thing I could think is that you damaged something when you cut the pcb. Possibly a grounding layer that got crossed into a power/data line or something. I hope you figure it out soon cuz im very interested in the reason and solution

I love how painfully similar cars and computers are. Everything goes fine till the end of the project, then its just nothing but sadness for a few days 😂

The best thing about your channel is that you run into problems, just llike the rest of us. It takes you a minute to finish builds, but if any of us viewers were doing the same thing, it would take us even longer. Thank you for the real, and not just the beauty shots. You guys are appreciated for all your hard work.

These are actually my favorite kinds of videos from you guys. I know it's a pain in the ass for you, but I love the problem solving, and how excited you guys get when you figure it out.

I'd say try a different riser cable as well since the pcb was cut. Pretty easy to swap and test a different one.

I was concerned that my experience based water cooling system wasn't performing as well as Jay's until I noticed his ambient temperature!

I dont understand the logic why some people cram high end hardware into these kinds of small pc cases, just buy a slightly bigger case and fit them in

I kind of like seeing you struggle with stuff like this, Jay. Mostly because it makes me feel better about my own mistakes, like thinking I was being smart by getting an R5 5600G in my build to use until I get a decent video card and only finding out yesterday that apparently I've gimped my machine down to PCI3 because of that choice. "I'm just going to have to trim the PCB a little bit here." Balls of steel on this guy.

Jayz....I mean this in the nicest way possible. Ya need to take better care of yourself. We'll be fine, we don't need constant content. We'll be ok, delegate what you can to others and make time for you. It's important. Much love and respect buddy.

It's just like... problem from nothing. Just take a bigger case and problem solved.

Every watercooled build should be Phil's. Every time you spoke about Philling the loop I chuckled.

I think it's commendable Jay's commitment to keeping the same case but at some point in time, like 30 minutes into this, I would just conclude that it's more trouble than it's worth.

Long shot, is the contact frame correctly mounted? The other issue might be the RTX 4080 power connection, tripping the OCP.

I am wondering if the jerry rigged psu extension is what is causing the OCP

hey Jay! it's the fan clearance on the daisy chain fans.... eh.... you'll figure it out...

Jay needs another employee called Dwayne. So he'll have "Fill" and "Drain" :D

Building a custom loop inside a sff chassis... i can actually feel the pain. 🙈

Man, I don't think I would ever put myself through the pain of building something on a small form factor. Mid tower cases is small enough for me! Also, I just love the chemistry between you guys. Phil's laugh continues to be contagious... I sometimes wonder how you get anything done when he just loses it.

my filter!!! my PHILter!!!!!! i love Phil's laugh it cracks me up EVERY FREAKING TIME!!!!

if you get a bigger case you remove about 80% of the problems

So everyone here is my question i have three options for a pc tell me which i should buy btw buying a pc in my country is less expensive than building your own do not ask me how that works ok the first choice is Core i5 13400F and RTX 3060 Ti 8GB GPU Used and B760m Motherboard and 700w 80+ Bronze PSU and Corsair LPX 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz the second option is AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Gigabyte B650M DS3H 16GB DDR5 4800Mhz (8GBx2) and Silverstone ST65 650Watt 80 Plus and Nvidia RTX 3070Ti 8GB GDDR6X f the third option is Intel Core i5 13400 Asus B760M-K 16GB DDR5 4800Mhz and FSP Hydro Pro 800Watt 80Plus and Nvidia RTX 3080 10GB GDDR6X

ASUS which got fired still appear everywhere 😂

love Jayz build videos, it like watching a magician at work, bonus with this one we also get a troubleshooting video aswell

seems everyones upgrading pc's i just upgraded to a top of the line i9-13900ks and a 4090 with 64GB of ddr5 ram and 2 4tb m.2 drives from Ibuypower from my i9-10850k and rtx 3080 ti I miss my old pc already because it's what I knew for so many years upgrading parts but whats done is done.

you know what great video, great brain off tier watching and alughign and learning and............. yeah i think its finally time after all those adds, that i buy myself some I fixit kits so i can go as enthusiest noob pc build as possible with my new build planned. i have al lthem onies now with my new work and its stable, and while my physical health is bad, i want to take my 5 year old system with a gtx 1080 beauty bottlenecked by a lame 2600 but i no longer want to just overhaul and retrofit my system with liek a 5800x3d and some ram and call it a day~ i just have too much money and use it too much and with so many new games, i mSO EXCITED to just bite the bulelt and get a new gpyu and just get EVERYTHING new! i want to have my old system alive and WELL so i cna do all my browsing and other daily work stuff on it weith all my bookmarks and general stuff since i dont plan to swap the SDDs, but i might idk. it would be soooooooooooo coooooooooool to just have a SUPER FRESH build of everything new for the fun of building, and learning, and thne have a fresh windows 10 install and just get ALL of my games and anything new on a 2tb+ nvme ssd, and i can just only launch what will likely be a super space heater pc when i want to GAME, and i cna keep my casual build (with some tlc makeup) as my daily driver browsing and videos pc with some casual client gaming like runescape or pixel games idk hahaha cant wait. cheeeeeeeeeeeeers

This is ONE reason I prefer BIG cases. Like the Alienware Area 51 R2 Triad Case I have. ALL parts can be full sized and not have any issues mounting them! But that's just me.....

Bet it’s the riser cable. I thought my new gpu was DOA, until I plugged it into the motherboard directly. I had extreme coil whine, crashing, failed booting, blue screens, the lot.

I've noticed a trend in your videos lately. You buy a lot of wrong products for the build. Why don't you just buy stuff that fits together? Hey Phil, buy a mid tower case, it will save us time and money and everything will fit the 1st time.

You might have shorted the power and ground planes on the riser PCB when you cut it. Maybe try booting without the GPU?

It doesn't matter how much experience you have either, things can and often will go wrong. It's funny the answer usually slaps you in the face when you least expect it. Leaving you to question yourself, why didn't I see that before as simple as the answer often times is.

Hey Jay. What’s going on with the PROMISED Northridge Fix video from MONTHS ago?

The case is too small for rtx 4080. It will eventually work, but this is an example of "don't do this at home".

By the 9:50 point of the video... what did Jay used to say...? "Measure twice, then cut once"... PEACE

It is amazing that the case had so little room to begin with. After the waterworks, it looked even more ridiculous. Oh and the thing that is wrong is that you didn't finish it, what is he going to do to satisfy his gaming in the next 6mths while you finish it?

You could have always planned this build with all the necessary parts before you even started ....but hey that would've taken a little thought

Imagine getting a slightly bigger case. 😆

Guarantee there's a short in the PCIe Riser PCB. Specially if debug light is flashing red for GPU.

This is exactly why I never use these tiny cases. What's the point when it's a desktop.... So many issues simply because of how small the case is.

Hi, at 5:36 you use the KryoSheet and it is touching the metal parts of the cpu holder, isn't that a bad thing since its conductive?

These are the types of issues that make diy so difficult. I don't have extra parts laying around so each problem is a pain. Looking forward to finding out what the "new" problem solution is.

Hmmm..... all problems could be solved with a slightly larger case!!!

Phil: I just wanted Carl Yastrzemski with the big sideburns!!

Everytime jay says (Fill) or (feel) my brain replaces it with (Phil)

Perfect example of why you don't try and cram a bunch of stuff that runs hot into such a small case.

Just do a linus...... Try to fit it then crap on it because it doesn't fit then auction it 😂

Iv been absolutely loving the Zotac AMP Extreme AIRO 4080

i did learn something from this video "don't fix what ain't broke"

I love Phil so much, his laughs are just pure joy 😂

Another Reason for not going ITX System, check :D

The funny thing is that I was going to try to make a custom loop in the NR200P Max and make a video too, so I can be one of the first people to ever do it. Not a lot of people would put a custom loop in that because it already comes with a AIO so it doesn't make much sense. I changed my mind after a while, but I'm still going to make a custom water loop for my PC soon.

This right here is why I will never build in a case even remotely this small.

you took a dremel to the pcb of the riser, maybe it has something to do with that

All that pain and costs... I would just replaced the case 😆

I am small case adverse. I hate having to cram things into tiny cases.

Why didn't you just use a slightly bigger case?

It's reasons like this that I will never do another SFF build.

So the moral is "don't use cases this small", right?

Is it counter-intuitive to build in a larger chassis ?

It is just much easier get an AMD CPU...

Solution, use a different case! The End!

Wouldn't the best solution be to use bigger case lol 😅

could you not have put the fittings into the cpu block before installing the block ?

You should just give him a new case too 😊

I absolutely love water-cooled ITX cases because of the OCD planning that has to go into it. That challenge is something that drives me

I wait every year for an entire month of this type of content. Thank you for the videos y’all!

Y U don't take a bigger case Jay?

Kudos in showing the snags of an upgrade. Not everything is perfect! Need more of these experiment style videos please. SoCal is getting hot again, we’ll need some cooling tips!! 😆 I was thinking Optimum Tech vibes when seeing how it was put together.

I guess Phil is getting a new case too :)

i prefer a larger chassis to handle heat

Yeah, most of my computer builds wind up with a lot of troubleshooting before it's good to go. Glad you're showing us the process so we can learn along with you! Hope it turns out to be something minor.

Love that you used the graphene sheet instead of thermal paste, i'm guessing because it performs awesome and that you want to test it in real conditions? =)

Thanks for the content Jay!! I always enjoy your work. 3 days ago I had an online exam for my coding class. I took a nap around 04:30 after shutting my rig off. Back in the middle of August I had an issue with random shutdowns. 3 months prior to that the same thing was happening but after ruling out all components it started running normally. So 3 days ago, while freaking out because I was losing study time, I decided to swap the motherboard. I had an extra Z690 Maximus Extreme for a buddies build and replaced my Z790 Extreme. I got done and had the same issue again. For the life of me I couldn’t figure it out. So I unhooked everything including 19:50 the wires going to the power button, HD led, etc. I booted with the onboard start button and voila it booted and no shutdown. Turns out that the HD led wire or power led wire had a short. These were parts I had cannibalized off the first PC I built back in ‘05. So yeah intermittent issues suck. Keep it up!!

Curious how this goes long term. I've got a 13900K and a 4090 on 2 360mm rads and a 240mm rad and they still saturate the loop. It's nuts how hard it can be to cool 700W during real demanding games like 2077 2.0

I couldnt quite tell, but it looked like you put a kryosheet on the cpu and it was hanging over onto the contact plate. Possibly shorting out there since those sheets are conductive?

time for bigger chassis lol

Waited years for Phil to water cool his rig 👍

Hey, look at that!! A title that is 95% click-bait free! You're making progress! :) Descriptive titles are an endangered species on YT lately. Keep up the good work!

JAY...SERIOUS TALK TIME...and someone has to say it......its time to hit the gym again buddy...it sucks but its true.....see ya at the treads.

Hmmm since the PCB was modified... I would try to boot it without that PCB being involved... use the MBs video ( if it has it).... maybe you didnt use enuf thermal paste too ;)

I built into the NR200P (non-MAX one), in my case I used the EKWB FLT80 reservoir and the EKWB velocity² Intel 1700 waterblock. I 3D printed the top of the case to fit the second 240mm radiator and used quick connectors from alphacool to connect each component, as well as a short Linkup PCIe 4.0 riser to move the EKWB Vector RTX 3080FE Special Edition to the 2nd slot and free up space for the tubes and quick connectors between the CPU and GPU waterblock. It's one of my hardest builds that I did. It requires a couple of micro fittings from EK to allow you to get behind the GPU waterblock from the reservoir.

You whats wrong with the rig? Phil used the NR200P MAX instead of the normal NR200P with a horizontal GPU. MY 4090 doesn't overheat even with 600W in the normal NR200P.

I'm only at 11:07 and i love this video =D Ah, the charms of ITX gaming pcs, LMAO! SFF is cool, and you CAN pack a very big punch in a tiny space, but there will be complications. I'm at the point where i think just give me the biggest enclosure with the most airflow. It's just me and two medium sized dogs in a 2200+ square foot house, though, so y'know. Horses for courses and all that. Are small ATX cases really that much bigger, though? I guess the WAF is higher, but dude... It's a gaming PC. Is the WAF really that much lower accounting for the time spent gaming?

Just build the damn thing without water cooling and VOILA ... effing problem solved! Jes messin man (chuckles). I've had a few puzzling builds myself. Not fun. Enjoyed the video. Tks for your hard work.

If the graphic cards stopped using the 1920 vintage buck VRM and started using the 2011 Ćuk-buck2 VRM, then the card could be smaller and the VRM efficiency could go from 60% to 95+%.

Coooome oooon now GIVE your awesome guys/employees Nick and Phil 4090 and 13900k or 7900-7950X3D Your sponsors have to find something. Vd runs well with max hardware. The problem is the riser cable that you cut INTEL or AMD coooooome ooooon 🥰😘

Hey Jay, since you have a directly line to EK, how about requesting EK to make water blocks for lower variants of GPUs? Some of us water cool for aesthetics and quiet machines not just OC and dont buy $1000+ GPUs. Seems like they only have 4090s and 7900 XTXs on their radar now.

I have a super weird problem I’ve got a founders edition 4090 and I just built a brand new computer rise and 5800 X 3-D MSI carbon 570 motherboard thousand watt corsair RME power supply the new black label and cablemod custom cables all of a sudden after two weeks, my graphics card, the fans will ramp up to 100%, the computer black screens and just stays powered on black screen but the fan stayed at 100% Only the GPU fans I change the power supply. Everything worked fine for a week started doing it again I put that same graphics card into another computer graphics card works fine so I think OK maybe it’s a power supply so I change the power supply again works for a week same problem. I change the motherboard the exact same motherboard works for A week and does it again I think it’s something with the MSI motherboard that’s causing a problem or do you think it could be the 5800x3d. Or maybe the GPU. But again the GPU works fine in my other computer that also has a 5800 X 3-D in it just an a motherboard and I mean I ran a constant stress test for 72 hours and nothing happened the second I put the GPU back in the original computerdoes the same thing all over again and yes, I did do a clean install of windows 11

I can't see Phil stacking anything on top of his PC. Before you get too deep, get a HEATKILLER® 200мм glass tube reservoir. They look cool as hell. It won't block air flow, so mount it right on top. Then you'll have easy access Phil port.😁

I'm surprised no one has thought of flat hoses/ square and flat right angles for near-flush mounting...let me know if I'm wrong...also, all these card specific water blocks....such a waste of manufacturing time and energy to make individual styles, it seems so horrendously inefficient. Let's design one that works for all 30xx series, 40xx series.... add a fine threaded screws to raise and lower crucial conductive pieces to it can be adjusted to fit multiple cards like a 30 60, 3070, 3080, 3090 ( you get it)

Meanwhile I'd just move it into a larger case instead of the overheating zero airflow zero air MASS artsy-fartsy undersized rubbish. Because of course sharting fragile high maintenance water cooling BS into case half the size of what should have been used is the answer. NOT! It's sad when the "real" answer to heating problems on a build like that could be solved by handing $60 or less to DIYPC. Stop making problems that shouldn't exist in the first place!

Hmmm... my loops I only compromise on space the case takes up. Full towers for me with nice large D5 pump/res combos and 3 radiators, none of this _"Let's see if we can squeeze a full custom loop in 22 litres."_ rubbish. Good luck with the OCP issue Jay (mainly for Phil's sanity).

I don't have an answer just a concern. My 4080 pretty much does the same thing, but mine is bone stock and the MSI x trio. But still, randomly all the fans in my system go to 100% screens go black like there is no signal from the GPU, then eventually the system will restart itself. I have already replaced the stock 12VHP connector it comes with the far better CableMod version and when that didn't fix it I sent it back for an RMA. It does it far less frequently now but it still happens randomly. It will do it randomly for like an hour, then it never does it again until I shut down my system. And before someone says its probably something else within my system, because I thought the same thing, I have tested and retested with all components I have it only happens with this GPU in it. The only things I couldn't switch out was my CPU, Motherboard, and PSU.

Sounds simular to an issue I had a few months ago. Try unplugging the front panel LEDs. My HDD LED had a dead short and was tripping OC protection.

Oof. I was getting flashbacks of building my dual 240mm rad 3090/5950x water cooled build in an NR200P. I had to push the vertically mounted 3090 up and basically fasten it to a spot the case was not originally designed for to get enough room for the fans on the bottom rad. Jay is running into all the same issues I did…

Video summary: Phil asks Jay to watercool his PC and Jay screws it up. lol No, but in all seriousness, this can happen. I remember servicing my PC by replacing the thermal paste and it not turning on afterwards. After a few months of frustration, consternation, and going back and forth with RMAs, I finally got my PC working again. 'Turns out, it was the motherboard that was the problem. And I'll give you one guess who made that motherboard.

4:17 I've got a 6900xt woth a 5900x custom looped in a nr200 with dual 240 thin crossflow rads, 4 thin 120 fans, and a corsair pump res combo. Biggest pain in the ass I've ever built

Jayz I have the pump block combo, I have encountered similar problems. You can fix it by filling directly to the combo res. The pump then will push the water.

I love it when people show it sometimes does not work......sure you will solve it quickly :) .....or Phil can finally finish his long term handheld review ....... After watching all the content on liquid cooling I am now really wanting to do a hardtube liquid loop. The problem is I am still deciding whether to go intel or amd as my current board and cpu is a 5960x with a corair h115i on it so will require new board, cou and ram but was wondering is it worth buying some of the parts now and doing a loop just for my gpu power colour 6900xt and the when I decide on cpu upgrade get the next part of the loop ?