what a stupid little girl asking him all those stupid questions, when Punk music is the way it is, hardcore and lyrics are not to be fully understood, that is the way it is, its what you understand
oh gosh Rofl, SYouth were my fave band when I was 16!! wow, well i deleted my comment, as she knew what she was asking Ian MacKaye, thanks for the update, wow !!
"I can't change a city, that's for sure" I wonder if today he realizes how many people across the world he's impacted. Awesome guy. I'd love to sit down and talk with him.
Oh yeah, definitely. I mean, I wonder if he remembers this interview, or what he said, and thinks like, "wow, I ended up making a way bigger difference than I ever thought I would," haha. It was definitely a different world back then. I've been watching a lot of interviews with him lately, and he seems super down to earth, so I don't even know if he'd give himself that much credit lol.
Michael Brown That would be cool. An interview nowadays, done by a fan, or a person with clue about that scene, back in the day. I agree, Ian made a difference, though he would never say so!
For someone so young, you can tell that he had a very grounded sense of realism about himself, what he was doing, and what he was, and still is, about. And the mistakes played out. Mistakes that he learmed from until he got it right with Fugazi. And Minor Threat and Embrace were definitely not bands he did wrong.
Jello called his bandmates sellouts when they kept playing without him. He's so washed up nowadays and his politics are hilarious, shilling for big pharma as if that's very punk of him lmao
@@coronasucks7602 that Q by the lame ass interviewer is funny as hell "So do you think you’re gonna be further underground?” all the interview questions are (and Ian's looks/eyerolls, of course...
"The hippies failed". "Then, they went and started their careers". "The punks will probably do the same thing". Never were truer words spoken. Most punks I grew up with are financially stable, because, we listened to the music that made us think. We listened to the music that showed us the strings that controlled the system. We were not disillusioned.
95% of the “punks” that I knew had actually come from upper middle class suburbia in a small town called Andover, MA. They were active tourists with a stable background. All they had to do was play the game, and fortunately for them ultimately did. I knew some real deal homeless punks in Boston and Los Angeles.
It's the way the powers that be set it up out here though, the dudes I seen that didn't want to "get with it" and challenged everything just ended up trampled with issues and problems. But that doesn't mean that happens too everyone bc there are few that truly believe in what they are doing and fighting for and stuff and end up making an impression and set their in mark in life. But I just don't feel right being 40 years old acting like a teenager still with a mohawk and playing punk rock it's just not me idk
@@chadbaier9752 I hope to make it to 40 and still play punk rock. Just the music, not the idea or the lifestyle. Maybe an outfit or two. But only that.
+Johnny Mac hahaha, this is true! but man, listening to the stockpile of ridiculous questions before it is hilarious. Who the fuck are these people? but yeah, I really would have liked to have known what he answered to alot of these. that comes later I guess? I'm not sure It's sort of hard to sort out.
i'm pretty sure that barrage of hilarity at the beginning is a joke they are all in on. even thurston chimes in for a sec. ian fucking rules. so does punk rock
Awww, it's so cute when kids come and insult people with no backup for the bs they're saying. Hmmm. Well, to start, he has fronted two of the most important rock bands in the last 30 years. He started his own record label from scratch just because he wanted to make music. He has spoken at hundreds of seminars at colleges across the country, and has travelled the world doing each of these things. He has inspired thousands of people and is highly intelligent and well-spoken. What have you done?
Also before you or anyone else uses the tired old line about how much time has passed since your comment; I don't care. Just because your post is old doesn't mean it's somehow invulnerable to criticism or discussion. I also would like to take this time to bring up hero worship which is a huge problem not just here in the us but pretty much everywhere in the world. Music kind of takes on a life of its' own and becomes something removed from the individual or individuals that created it. Initially an extension, it then evolves. You don't need to know who wrote or composed a song to listen to it. So in short . . . who gives a fuck who kim gordon is. You can honor her without even knowing her name just by enjoying what she produced or was part of producing.
Wayne Something bro u can't just make an incredibly bold and objective claim and then follow it up with "in my opinion" like your intentions were respectful
its a little different today. selling out back then meant changing the music, changing the ideals, changing the lyrics, the look whatever. now its a little more open. you can make some money and not be considered selling out. they and others like them kinda paved the way
@@xisotopex that's because selling out has no meaning anymore, not because somehow people aren't selling out now. Have you seen, literally, any internet content? Dictionary definition of selling out: whoring out your creative contribution to a corporately controlled distribution platform that offers you mere cents on the dollar for your talent, so you sell out by establishing sponsorship relationships (this means they own you, little boy) to keep making enough money.
Ian didn't sell out but Brian & Lyle wanted to. They gave a list of demands to Ian: manager, stage risers, they wanted to sound like U2 (Salad Days already does), etc etc & Ian said fuck that band is over.
i saw the last of those guys 93-99. they are always, Always ! annoyed. And their filter of "cool" is so narrow, that it is a trail and error course, a minefield. in the end of the day the reason might have been a hangover from the daily drug abuse.. i know,but it is the only solution i can come up with. so, this editing is a show off of lifestyle, a sort of "how cool is hardcore" pr, and its well done because you as the viewer are in the intimidated side of that relation.
Fucking love it! At times, it looks like he's thinking: "is this shit for real, or is there gonna be some asshole that comes in and tells me I just got punk'd?"
He changed ,or at least planted a seed of consciousness into many minds. for the betterment of humanity. Respect to him for that, and some great songs too.
Such a great artist and he had to of been so young in this interview. Staple of my teens in the 90’s. My kids just laugh now when they hear it. So fast but good
I'm probably gonna get a lot of crap for saying this, but I never thought the hippie and punk rock scenes were that different in spirit. I mean, there's some obvious aesthetic/stylistic differences, and some of the ideals are different. But there's still this attitude of, "Fuck the establishment, lets be creative and have fun and make some good music!" I listen to the Beatles and Minor Threat, I don't see any conflict there.
Ian MacKaye. His Jewish father wrote for the Washington Post. He was a white house reporter like Helen Thomas was. He turned to religion where he worked as a religion specialist. Ian's grandmother from his father's side was Dorothy Cameron Disney MacKaye. A Jewish lady that worked together with well known "Bowman Popenoe" on marriage culumns. Mr. Popenoe a Jewish eugenicist (1888 to 1979) advocated compulsory sterization of the mentally ill. After ww2 that became a problem and he became the father of marriage counseling. This Ian MacKayes grandmother worked with this former eugenicist on marriage columns together. Dorothy Cameron Disney MacKaye was a member of the "Cosmopolitan Club". This was a private social club for woman only (nearly all were Jewish woman and writers). Located in Manhattan New York on 122 E 66 street. Famous member were: the writers Wills Carter, Ellen Glasgow, Jean Stafford, Margaret Mead the anthropologist writer and lesbian and Eleanor Roosevelt.
I think Henry Rollins in many ways is kind of a fascist punk(no disrespect to him though). Many things he says are more along the lines of punk preaching in a way, but I think in many ways, he has this "this is right; you're wrong" kind of attitude which to me, sin't as punk as if he were to say "think for yourself" or at least point out the fact that his statements are opinionated. I think it's mostly attitude difference.
Well, both movements have had their upsides and their downsides. The punks haven't exactly changed the world either, but it all gets us a step closer to where we wanna go. What bugs me is that we really haven't had much of a movement like that since punk. I mean, it's obviously not the 60's anymore, but it ain't the 80's either. I don't wanna just bury myself with nostalgia, I wanna do my own thing, ya know.
@@MrRekarbenots Steppin Stone is not even a Minor Threat song. It was a Monkees song covered by the Sex Pistols before, which inspired them to make their own.
@@lou4765golly gosh gee whiz mister! i thought minor threat wrote every cool song. 'the monkeys', you say? (nice spelling, btw) who'da thunk such abstractions? geniuses like you are needed for teaching folks things and stuff. and, also, btw, 'the monkees' didn't write their own tunes. well, maybe a couple, but a ripping classic like stepping stone? nah. that's bobby hart and tommy boyce, a couple of tin pan alley heavy hitters. and i think fifteen bands had at it before the pistols did. theirs ripped it up, though, indeed. like sid's eddie cochrane covers, way too cool for just about any school. be cool yourself, professor!😃😀🙂😐😶🟡🍄🧨📢
Lol, sorry man, it's hard to tell sometimes. I get what you're saying, but I still think it's kinda goofy. You're modern day "hippie" isn't really at odds with the modern day punk for the most part(this is a lot of generalizing anyway). Personally, I think it's kinda dumb for a person to limit themselves to one style of music anyway. There's so much that's so easily available these days, people ought to explore as much as they can.
Minor Threat makes people proud to be from Northern VA/DC. These guys made their mark, never sold themselves to people, and never sold out themselves. The embodiment of DIY
No research is required, and no argument was intended. Hippies wanted to change the world, but their approach lacked practicality and energy Punk attitude was very energetic but somewhat nihilistic and iconoclastic ("Destroy!" - Johnny Rotten, 1976). Many say that the attitude was borne of frustration with the music scene of the mid/late 1970s, i.e. prog rock that had not really evolved since the 1960s. Obviously there are exceptions, but on the whole this description ia accurate.
that's how I imagined the piano room looked like when they described in American Hardcore when that one guy (I think it was Brian Baker) saw Ian show him the chords to 'Straight Edge'. some weird multiverse shit there.
I agree and disagree. Those of us who grew up getting jumped by 4-6 jocks and constantly harassed by preppies and cops and teachers, and generally abused, its fuckin hard to look at people who are obviously just bandwagon hoppers that don't get it, and not call them what they are. Its a LOT easier to be punk nowadays than it used to be, and there are a lot more fakes out there because of that.
you could walk down the road and get beer bottles thrown at you just because you had a skateboard and a shaved head. that doesnt happen anymore. you had to learn how to fight so people would stop bothering you.
Why do artists have much deeper voices when they are younger, Axl Rose is the same way his voice is hella deep in the 80s but now he sounds like a little kid, Ian is same too his voice is higher now when he talks
Are his answers just edited out (in the begining) to drive home the absurdity of how terrible the interview is? Who is this 'journalist(?)'? Why is this so terrible? Please, I'm not trying for humor, if you have an idea that you suppose would help me understand, drop a line
Even outside of punk one of the greatest minds going around and you can see why he was such a great leader and inspiration to a young Henry Rollins. The other smartest guy in the room is Krist Noveselic, he's off the charts smart.
I almost thought this was an actual interview, then noticed a couple people said the interviewer was Kim Gordon....that totally makes sense now. Of course that's her voice...and her kind of humor.
she asks a question about "i don't wanna hear it" at 0:34 and then the tape cuts, and she's asking another question. You don't even hear his answer to that question until the tape awkwardly cuts again at 6:32 and he's politely answering the question. Are you people too stupid to notice crappy editing or would you just rather assume that he "hates the interviewer"... he answers all her questions. Engaged, polite and in pleasant conversation...
Smoking weed causes cancer in the respiratory system and mental health problems. Drinking too much Coca Cola causes diabetes and obesity. One can a day isn't going to kill you though.
yes that was rather rude, maybe "challenged" may have been more appropriate, come one though this woman was asking some off the wall questions and lets not brush the guy aside, he was not really asking many that were better.. some questions were reasonable, some questions made me ask myself. "wtf is has she been smoking?"
Can we believe there is actual change that can happen --- that IS happening? And why do you think they actually drink when no one is looking? Hmmm - says something about your thinking.
How on earth did Thurston Moore and Kim Gordon end up interviewing Ian? Oh yeah, because they 80’s were so fucking cool that underground was well, underground. It makes sense that Sonic Youth would dig Minor Threat.
