Aww, thanks Ian! Between the different guitars, amps, other pedal combos and playing styles, I tend to believe that there's a pedal for every situation, and a situation for every pedal. Part of what I'm trying to do with the channel is find those matches (to the best of my own playing ability)
DE-7 is a great pedal. Prices have been absolutely through the roof since Josh from JHS did a video on it a couple of years ago. If it had a tap tempo it would be just about perfect.
When you said that these Ibanez 7 series TonLoc pedals were once dirt cheap, you weren't kidding. I remember when our local guitar shop had a literal garbage can filled with different effects no one wanted at clearance prices. I cherry picked an FZ-7 out and I think I paid something like 30 bucks for it. Still have it, but I'm not a big fan of it. (I was the guy that wrote the comment about having a hard time finding a good fuzz not long ago on another vid of yours) I also agree with your suggestion to support the small pedal builders out there. I have a delay by Hungry Robot called The Wash that is just sublime, and you never hear about that one. I am really close to pulling the trigger on a Oneder Effects dirt box called the Old Blue too. So, yeah, I'm with you on those points. Great video. Thanks for your time and efforts.
Thank you! I’ll have to check out both of those. And I definitely remember these 7 Series pedals being widely mocked on Harmony Central back in the day. Widely panned as a miss.
Man. I'm actually In love with your channel. I usually fire up gear demos/Reviews on saturdays when I change guitar strings. Had to restring 4 guitars last saturday and your channel came up (old CE5 vs new CE5 iirc) when I was done with the 2nd one. It's Monday, and I'm out of guitars to restring and still watching your vids. Keep up the great work, my guy. :)
I have flipped SO many pedals over the years, but it was love at first listen with the DE7, so I've never sold it. That smile you have at the 2:00 mark, when you hit the repeats at the point they just start to self oscillate at about 2 o'clock.... I do that every time. The one thing I think this pedal lacks is it's own modulation, but when I owned a Fairfield Circuitry Shallow Water (why tf did flip that gem?!), I ran it after my DE7 and it was the best modulated delay I've heard, better than the Belle Epoch Deluxe, and equal to the Tonal Recall. Nice demo, I've subscribed.
I had a RKM Tonal Recall for a while. I hated how it clipped so harshly when I tried to self oscillate, but that modulation section is so powerful and worth a pedal on its own. I really miss that modulation.
A friend of mine goes to storage auctions and found one of these in a unit he bought like 5 years ago and gave it to me. It's still the only delay on my board, I love it!
There was also a dod grunge and dod heavy metal in there that he gave me. The HM doesn't work. The grunge, though, I really like it in certain situations! It can sound horrible too though!
Legendary pedal. These have been hyped for a long time and with good reason. I think I've used mine in delay mode for a total of about two minutes since i bought it in the early 2000s. Echo mode is glorious. I don't always have it on my big board - it's been replaced by an EQD Disaster Transport - but it's definitely in the Never To Be Sold category and a staple on my little bedroom board.
love when a delay pedal comes with a switch for the delay range. i love the sounds from my EHX canyon, but the time knob ranges from like 30ms to 2s - a little nudge makes a huge difference. it’s basically the only reason i keep my DD-3 around, lol
The Ibanez tone lok series were all pretty badass. I have a 2 year old that loves messing with knobs so these are perfect. I own the cf7 chorus/flanger that has a setting on it called wack'd that's basically a tremelo.Wes Borland uses the effect on the Limp Bizkit song My Way
The crazy thing is the oscillation in this pedal is unique. Can’t find one that oscillates as crazy as this one. I have to check that other pedal for sure . Won’t be selling mine anytime soon.
(Drool) Got mine in 2000. Back when we could own things I had pedals up to the ceiling. This box is in the top 5 in my Golden Foot Awards. It is beautifully voiced and the echo mode can self-oscillate (Blow up) all day without damaging your speakers. I'm not gonna BS you though.... they are frail. Take care of it and it will take care of you.
I love the Golden Foot Awards! It really is a beautiful pedal, and I’m surprised more people haven’t made an attempt at a recreation. I’ve replaced foot switches before, it’s not a huge deal, it’s just it’s Achilles heel
Haha, darkviperau is one of the first speedrunners I started watching, and I really enjoy his GTAV stuff. It's not something I do personally, but I really admire the dedication and skill and ability to juggle commentary while doing it all. Glad to see another fan.
I think a lot of that comes down to the way music stores were laid out. Boss always had the best displays, always positioned right next to where you'd be trying out guitars with all of the bright colors grabbing your attention, and all the other brands were just tossed into the display case behind clouded, scratched glass, under yellow light, next to the banjo picks and used harmonicas. They were always "the other" pedals, and I don't think I even realized they made anything other than the Tubescreamer until a few years ago. Like, I knew of the DE-7, but I still have to remind myself that it's an Ibanez product.
@@StompboxBreakdown Good point. I started playing around 1991. Back then BOSS was indeed the big one, then there was DOD, Dunlop, Ibanez, and the occasional EHX. That was about it. So I've observed Ibanez effects over the years. They sort of ebb and flow with new releases but when something new comes out there is often an element of originality, or a twist, to it that separates them from the pack. Unfortunately their new releases are mostly ebbing right now. ha.
10:58 "there is a distortion pedal on the wall behind me right now that you can buy for like fifty bucks, that just might be the greatest-" ah, you're talking about the Dod FX86B Death Metal Distortion. No need to continue the video. Superb content as always. Enjoying this Ibanez deep dive of late!
Commenting from the future, April 2023 - he said this with a (then) $50 Bad Monkey sitting just over his shoulder one month before the JHS video dropped and a Monkey sold for $519 on reverb. More indisputable proof of the RU-vid Pedal Illuminati :P
Nothing will get you closer to an analog sound at over TWO SECONDS of delay, esp. for the price. Such good guts. If it weren’t such an iconic look, I’d consider reboxing this bad boy into a new case with a reliable footswitch. Also it would probably decide to never work again, and I’d lose that wonderful 40% of the time that it does decide to function. :pat pat: it’s okay, DE-7, I’ll love you forever. Also yeah, probably my favorite setting is with the repeats at near-oscillation just hanging out after an analog delay (in this specific case, time set to quarter with the analog first on a slower drag triplet) - I got it to create just a haaair of feedback as the trails mingled - bruh. 👌🏼
You just described my ideal analog(esque) echo tone, my friend. The way the Echo mode boops up the gain enough that the echoes are stronger than the Delay is something that would be annoying when switching between any other two modes, but here, it does kind of line up with how I'd like my delays happening in different contexts. Rehousing the DE7 may be a long term project, though I think if I were to incorporate it into another board where I really needed it to work, I'd just throw it into the loop of an effects switcher or something. Still, ain't nothing else quite like it.
@@StompboxBreakdown You’re right, if I really needed ‘er permanently on a board I could use a switcher and not attempt to rehouse it. But really I just like to pull it out from time to time and be reminded of how killer it is, then after it decides to not work almost every time for a week or two straight I’ll put it away for awhile. I love how it’s got just the right amount of grit and high end roll off that it doesn’t sound like a highly refined digital imitation of an analog sound - with a some pitch modulation, heavy low pass and artifacty scratch. It’s warm but not too much so. Let’s write haikus about it 😆 jeez.
Very good video and very good message, well said! My favourite delay is the digitech digidelay (50$), I bought 3 so when the prices will go up I won't need to buy another XD
I have heard (though I don’t pretend to understand circuits myself) that the soft clipping circuit inside this is basically similar to a tube screamer, which is why it distorts but doesent get overpowering as the clipping circuit compresses it in the midrange like a tube screamer
PT2399 or digital delay with circuits to color the sound is my fav! It can be versatile and not too dark (like analog delay) if you want. And it also has the analog mojo!
This pedal was how I accidentally discovered having it on ZERO to get a kind of slapback/doubler sound. I always got weird looks but I considered it an essential part of my board.
Sadly, I have some of the same memories of other 7 Series pedals. The creaky noise it makes as you step on it has got to be one of the worst bits of audible feedback ever.
.... in the early 2000s I went through 2 fuzzes and they both randomly stopped working. Now I could probably fix it as I build myself now, but then I just tossed them. Some regret but also I wasn't rough on them. They are built pretty cheaply. I do like the way the majority of them sound and if I could buy a more together version of the Fuzz or echo delay I would.
You're the real DE-7 O.G. I remember playing with one in the music store and really wanting one, but still not quite grasping the concept of how one delay could be different from another.
I have found that I can approximate the de7 eith the el cap by putting the age knob up kinda high and setting the repeats to 3:00 where the volume doesn't jump too high.
Love the whole tonelok series for the most part and good job misdirecting people to the Caroline pedal and don't worry about the prices going up that's josh Scott's job you do great videos I can't wait to see every week besides I've been mislead by many videos hyping a cheap pedals to the point we're I'm just trying out random companies to find my own sleepers and have been a bit more successful that way and yes there's a ton of innovative things coming out by small builders cool stuff that death by audio doesn't have the balls to take a chance on
Definitely, there's lots of sleeper pedals still out there. The boutique builders have to charge more to make their time/resources worth it, so it's harder to find a screaming deal there, but there's definitely a bunch of pedals between 5-15 years old that got massively overlooked.
True but I have been lucky enough to find a few builders that will do most pre made PCBs for pretty cheap like under 100$ it's mainly custom orders and fv1 builds that seem to cost the most and yes this is another run on sentence I don't have time for proper punctuation
Sounds so good. How does this pedal compare to the Ibanez rack AD202? A multimode chorus/delay from the early 8ties. Aha, it is digital and has much longer delay times. The AD202 (fully analog buckets marching) has less than half a second. Both seem to only put any effect onto one channel, and are not stereo effects with that, just like the chorus on the old Roland JC120 Amp, with two speakers, where the second one received treatment and "wobbled" against the first one. Still mono, or U must put a second mic onto the other end of the JC120. Really nice stereo effects U get when you put another chorus pedal on the dry out and tune them slightly different.
this was my first delay ever. got it for around $40. then went to carbon copies (all 4 versions across 3 boards) that i loved a little more and "had" to move it on. i didnt need the cash or anything. i just hate when gear sits and would rather someone use it. i dont regret moving it on, but i also still miss it very much.
I love mine, but there is a noticeable amount of noise when it's on the delay setting and a drop in volume. Not sure if it's the same with all of them or if the one I have is just old and crapping out. With the repeat knob maxed out you get this mellow wave of echo trails that wash out into an ocean of calm.
Its a soft clipping circuit and a low pass filter or just a few capacitors to make it a little darker? I guess the limiter is on both so. Some mods change the switch to a knob
I’ve been looking for years for pedals that can do the same wash the DE7’s Echo mode can do, to sit behind your playing and just oscillate and burble. Thus far the best I’ve found is the Meet Maude. What other delays can do that? Can any of the modes on the Digitech Obscura capture that?
In my option it has the best tone ever!!! I wonder why they never make any like that but with 3 4 switch like line 6 and tc electronic, honestly no one can’t believe it until they see it and heard it, but I being I sing the Ibanez dl7 for Over 10 Years and no matter what k buy tc electric flashback sounds like a little Bebe next the Ibanez d7 then the line 6 dl4 also sounds cheap When you put them together, for lead guitar solos Ibanez d7 it’s the king for ever.
Wow, such a nice sound. I think I like the sound of digital representations of analog better than analog. I prefer the jacks on the sides because I don't like (A) the 9v jack in their way and (B) or my pedals all jammed together. Maybe somebody can make a $150 modernized improved one so we don't have to buy an old pedal with no trails, probably noisy. They don't cost all that much. BTW I think the control set is perfect. But the sounds are really great. Nice job as always.
Thanks, Dean. I'm also a fan of side-mount jacks (or at least they don't bother me). I just recently put together a board for a project, and after testing it out during a rehearsal, my biggest nit was that I had placed some of the buttons in places where it was hard to hit one without accidentally hitting a second. As much as I love pedals, I want them set up so I don't have to think about them too much when I'm playing. I don't want to look like a touch-typist with my foot dangling over the pedalboard trying to hit the right switch in the middle of a song. One of the weird things I noticed about the DE7 is that if you have a short delay, and then switch it into a longer delay, the noise and artifacts of that memory getting "stretched" out is really apparent. Could be annoying or interesting depending on the application, I'd imagine.
@@StompboxBreakdown Yes I see these youtubers videos of "my new pedal board" and I'm like "how can you use that without a lot of 'oops' moments?' They're crammed together, sideways and all. I hope they like it, but I like a bit of breathing room.
Probably the Tight Drive Pro by AmpTweaker. It's got an amazing array of options and has the hard rock sound that you can adjust to make just about any amp light up. It's also very large and expensive, but in the reasonable budget range, few compares to the MXR/EVH 5150 Pedal. It does the crunch stuff soooo well.
I’ve been on a rip watching a ton of your videos. Suggestion: you should change your channel logo/icon. It’s too simple. I would see your videos suggested or on searches and never click on them because i thought it was some guitar shop channel based on the logo.
Interesting. I’m probably due for a refresh. I had it set to a photo of me before but I didn’t like it. I’ll give it another thought, thank you. And thanks for watching the videos
