IBM WorkPad 20X: The 1998 Palm PDA Experience 

I so coveted that keyboard but never could justify the cost, thanks for showing it off again!

That keyboard is awesome!!!

The folding Palm keyboard was even more impressive. It folded down in four parts to something about the size of the palm pilot itself.

holy fck! I thought it was a 3D fx or something but it's the real mechanical keyboard springing from the inside almost instantly and sliding perfectly!

@@ZanHecht got one at a goodwill and would play with it for hours.

i was like wow, why the things like this arent popular now?

It's a thing of beauty!

It did it so smoothly as well

It works less smoothly when it's full of staples, hair and biscuit crumbs.

That was really awesome! My jaw opened out of amazement when I'd seen that!

Go compile your own Linux kernel! DO IT!! 🤣

@Sensible Talk ​ @Sensible Talk Exactly! I feel like where technology is now is more than sufficient. Realistically, we have it so easy now that it almost seems dumb to keep releasing a new iPhone every other month and new this and new that...just chill!

@Gaming York Wanna travel back in time with me to the late '90s/early 2000s?

I think the modern information overload has jaded us

@@spac18 Definitely. Most people can't seem to go 10 seconds without "googling" something on their phone. 😒

That's interesting. What language was used? What tool's? What IDE? Yoi should post a video about that, I'd find that super interesting.

Obligatory Apple bashing ^^: You see, your problem is that you are using Apple products, I can just connect my Android and pull things over in Total Commander same as if I were copying to a pendrive.

​@@Cinkodacs Funny thing is that I am an Apple basher myself, so I can't even disagree with you. I'm fine with the phone itself, but goddamn iTunes is probably the worst program I have to use on a semi-regular basis. - sigh - I really miss my Palm Pre 2. I just keep getting good deals on iOS devices.

Bad Anime Group i subscribed to Apple Music and probably haven’t used iTunes in 2 or more years. Google Music also works and probably still allows you to upload your music to the cloud for free.

Yet the latest version of iTunes is still able to sync the 1st gen iPod from 2001... Its all swings and roundabouts with Apple

I find it annoying how calendar and contacts today are far too complex than they need to be. I always have issues synchronizing things and meetings.

They're NSYNC and... I want it that way... (Never mind, wrong band.)

The transition was a little too subtle that I almost missed it haha

@@trevorlane I _barely_ noticed it myself but then went "Wait a minute...!".

_Oops_ he did it again!

10 I never 20 wanna hear you say 30 I want it that way 40 goto 10

I had the Sony Clie Palm (PEG-NZ90/U). Incredible device until I got a Compaq. Your Comment reminded me of what it was. Gave it to a girlfriend that was in college at the time.

"Is it boobs?" Goes back to check "Yep, it's boobs'

I was a fan of 11348008

normantor wait, NY State? I didn't know Fishkill had an IBM plant.

@@WintrBorn Really didn't know that? It's still GlobalFoundries leading edge Fab to this day (where they make 14 & 12nm products like AMD's Zen/Zen+ CPU's for ex.)

Cooe I left the area some years back, it was just surprising to see that area pop up. Last time I thought about Fishkill, people were crying because killing fish is meeeeeean. 😁

@Ken Evanska Buddy..when we started we made the CPU for the Mac....plus the GTX 6600 and the CPU for the 360 and the CPU for the PS3...oh wait the CPU for the WII. Trust me we lost money on all of it.

normantor He's saying he's over 99 years old (Radio Shack started in 1921). Gamecube is what, 20 years old?

oh man the eyestrain i get just thinking about that

SmallBASIC?

yea that came like in 2002 wasn't palam tho, it was the pocket pc, which was like palm but more advanced, the "tv" was watching movies... and later youtube when that was a thing... kind of like it's now. I remember watching youtube in 2007 on my hp ipaq hx4700.. it was awesome.. but by 2009 google updated codecs, so the 3rd party app I was using no longer worked and they released their own app for windows mobile, which they purposely made to run like crap, it run in 10fps and didn't do full screen properly, the video black bars around all four corners, no joke.. however core player made a superior yt client for windows mobile and so did htc, but htc made it to work on their devices only.

Меченый? Какого чёрта?!

most normal people just use their phone for that

Get out of here stalker!

@@Blackadder75 no such luxury in the Zone

I wish Stalker was as stable as palmOS

I saw it too

Subliminal message. 😄

I tought wtf backstreet boys had to do with this

There is doom on later modles

Enjoy the novelty, there really isn't much that Doom doesn't run on.

@@TheTurnipKing True.

@@TheTurnipKing Now that LGR has helped spread the awareness of it, I can't help but wonder if it's just a question of time before this also runs doom

We need someone to get Doom on this device ASAP.

We didn't even get Duke Nukem 3D. That's what I was waiting for.

2000's kids also did that :P

@@Pommezul no I'm pretty sure 90's kids are the only kids that have ever used calculators, definitely no one before or after us :P

@@RetroJ3000 calculators aren't real, stop lying

BOOOOOBS!!!!

@@RetroJ3000 no they arent the only ones to use calculators, wtf dude everyone has used a calculator

I had a number of CE devices over the years. A HP Jornada that I used to take to client sites, and a Dell Axim. Not sure if they were good times. I did like the Jornada though. The Axim not so much. I would however enjoyed one of these: www.amazon.com/Dell-Axim-X51v-Handheld-Bluetooth/dp/B000COJ8NY I /think/ that was the one... A while ago...

I really do miss lusting over those wacky PocketPC/Mobile device that THC used to make, before everyone got caught up in Jobs' RDF and started rolling out Apple clones.

@@slightlyevolved Yes sorry I didn't mean to imply that Windows Phone was CE, I was saying that Windows Phone meant the end for Windows Mobile (a version of CE) which unfortunately for Microsoft wasn't a successful decision. I had an XDA Exec (HTC Universal, back before HTC had made a name for themselves in their own right) which was around the peak of the Windows Mobile years, and most cheaper satnav devices of the time ran a version of CE. I remember a few larger CE notebook-sized devices too like the IBM one shown in this video sold with "handheld PC" branding, there was one by HP I think.

oh man, windows CE. I had that on my dreamcast

CE was sank by Android, which worked better on any device you'd otherwise use CE on and you didn't have to pay a license to use. It also had a vast library of apps that worked straight out of the same store you'd use on your phone, without relying on some unpaid dev out there porting useful apps over in their free time.

Have you considered uploading your repository to the Internet Archive (archive.org)? They already have a ton of hard to find old software - this would fit nicely. There's already some PalmOS software on there, but I suspect you have programs that are not there and deserve being preserved for future generations.

When games are like ~20kb that must truly be a "large repository" LoL

@@p4nx844 Later PalmOS software is a bit larger though.

@@no1DdC Seconding the request to upload to Internet Archive. This stuff deserves to be preserved and accessible.

@@LGR if you're desperate for Palm OS apps, check out c4pda.net . Unfortunately, with Palm OS being defunct, it's going to be next to impossible to find any apps these days. Their archive is about as good as it gets.

My reaction to the iPhone reveal was, oh it's a PDA with a GMS modem and multi-touch. But no 3G and apps? Shame.

Fun times. Used to do the same when watching videos in high school except, I did that with a Casio watch that could control TVs and VCRs, almost got in trouble once.

Porting DOOM to *everything* is a thing now

I bet you can port doom to a leaky shower head now

@@TCIR Doom e1m1:water edition

Lucky you!!! I had a palm pilot exactly like that one back in 2000. When I dropped them on a hard surface, the screen cracked rendering it unusable. Those devices are actually fragile compared to smartphones today if the screen cracks, it's still usable!

I kept that visor running until I got an N900 which ran garnet vm virtual palm.Was dependent on handy shopper.

if you dont need a digital watch you dont need a watch, they are way better in every way

Yeah I remember trying out a Palm device my mom bought way back in the day because she never used it and it was kind of cool for a bit but then I just never really used it. I remember the stylus text entry being awkward at best and it just didn't feel better than typing or writing not to mention slower. As a portable device it suffered from the same issue as all ambitious portable devices of that era: it was really slow and basic.

Had many including the color ones from palm with the arm processors. They got better but were still hampered by poor screen resolution for full page browsing and the processors were still generations away before becoming fast enough to what even a smartphone from 2013 can do today.

It's a different experience when the technology is current, as opposed to going back to it 10-15 years later. Basically, at the time these things were current, they filled a practical niche that made them actually pretty useful. Today they're not very useful from a practical standpoint because most people carry around smart phones which are more powerful and have internet connectivity, so a device that's built around sync cables and regular backups to a PC isn't so useful. When the devices were current, they were not powerful by any means but they were very convenient and reliable compared to the alternatives. Battery life was good so you could carry it around and it'd be ready to go when you needed it without constantly needing a recharge. If you look back at it now, most of the PDA stuff seems kind of ridiculous - like "offline email" - load your email onto your PDA, read the email, maybe write a response on the go, and then sync up again to actually send the email. Today there's no need, your phone can just access the internet almost anywhere. But at the time, a use case like that could actually be reasonable and useful.

Me too... when you could tell a teacher you were taking notes... but really spending time playing bejeweled.

Is it possible to learn this power?

@@suborbitalprocess Well, Clint does try to post a video every Monday and Friday.

*ModernVintageGamer enter a chat*

And i can't shake the feel that we lost something along the way.

@@digiowl9599 A certain level of charm that smartphones are incapable of replicating.

Back in my day we would always play our edgy games as flash games on web browsers.

That had my attention as well.

Does LGR ever answer comments? I would like to know where these tracks are as well!

@@RailVentures maybe those replies are too much for him to reply, now we would need enough people to ask about that railway, then we can have the answer

Well hopefully LGR's not too big for us little people! LOL

@@RailVentures He does reply to comments quite often

I think my dad had a pda similar to this in the 90s lol.

The good days of the 2000s 3

Why 3?

@@rubenphonecollector2533 thats a heart.

@@vector6977 doesn't look like it at all

Theres a version of space trader for android

Saludos de Paraguay!!!

Nah, I saw it too

@@matcha6710 Thank you!

@@CB-pf5lb Maybe we're both crazy XD

@@matcha6710 ...T-That's a possibility.

Its 2-bit monochrome screen and tiny amounts of CPU speed and memory are rather _serious_ constraints!

@@LGR You're a funny man LGR.