Iceberg | Pokémon Gold Silver and Crystal 

??? type was, to my knowledge, introduced as an easy fix for a Gen 1 bug. In Gen 1, Struggle was considered a Normal type move, meaning it couldn't hit Ghost type Pokemon. Rather than reprogram the entire battle system to allow for this specific move to hit Ghost types, they added the ??? Type, which was given to Struggle. That way, Struggle would be able to hit all types regardless of resistances and immunities. I believe Curse was also given the ??? Type to allow for the unique effect when used by Ghost types vs any other Type. In Gen 5, they seem to have rebuilt a lot of the mechanics meaning they could account for moves like Curse and Struggle. So Curse was swapped to the Ghost type, arguably its intended type from the beginning, and Struggle was made typeless.

It was recently shown that the program he made was actually made to make the game load faster not to make Kanto fit into the Gen 2 games It was actually really needed and saved us all lots of time

This came onto the right man’s recommended page. Great work brother

I love the idea that Blue’s gym is filled with almost all gen 1 and 2 Pokémon, it’d be very on brand

According to the Pokemon Adventures manga which are tied to the games, Red was on Mt Silver looking to heal the injuries he suffered in his battles with the Elite Four. Lorelei's cursed ice had caused some pretty lingering damage to his hands and feet which caused him to lose strength, and according to Sabrina the hot springs of Mt Silver could help because she suffered the same injury.

These Pokemon game specific icebergs are just what I wanted

The Iwata thing isn completely true. He made a tool that made the game faster, it actually fills more due to it. It wasnt an compresion tool. Did you know gaming just released info on this.

I remember someone did a playthrough of Vietnamese Crystal (but got stuck in Goldenrod) and their commentary was so fucking hilarious...

It's a shame that the vast majority of the Pokémon in the Space World demo never saw the light of day in future games. They could re-work some of them into new Pokémon

“They need lots of loves.” Is honestly kinda cute even if it’s horribly translated 🤣

Gold/Silver videos is peak youtube content.

13:30 Actually that is wrong! The pokemon center in New York had a "gotta catch em all" machine where players could obtain various pokemon with special moves including legendaries and their shiny forms. Shiny mew was obtainable from one of those machines, so it is in fact possible for shiny mew to legitimately exist in gen 2 games.

There is so many good story opportunities for a Legends Johto tie in arceus with unkown, the burned tower, the unnamed pokemon resurrected by ho-oh, Kurt and his apricotballs. Endless gold.

Quickly becoming one of my newest favorite channels. The nostalgia I get from your videos is insane. Hope you do one for my favorite game, Emerald. Much love.

I came across the ‘Unown Radio Signal’ by accident in my playthrough of Silver Version as a little girl…it SCARED THE HELL OUT OF ME, especially when my older brother said he legitimately didn’t know what to make of it himself. 😅 I felt a A LOT better when he went to the Ruins of Alph on his copy of Gold Version and got the same result…clearly it WAS coded into the game for SOME reason, we just didn’t know WHAT. I was a Senior in high school before discovering that it was meant to simply be the Unown.

Your Pokemon iceberg videos are super nostalgic. I love these man, keep them up.

Just found your Red/Blue/Yellow iceberg about 2 hours ago, great surprise and great videos! You're gonna go far :D

8:28 if you trade over a mewtwo from rby it will also be holding the berserk gene. I remember doing this with all my rby pokemon back in the day. I think the kanto birds will be holding a brightpowder? All the weird items and mystery gift furniture was so... mysterious back then lol. GSC is my favorite. Thanks for making the video and great job :) I didn't know about the shinys in stadium 2 that's super cool!

Love the scope of the content covered but i wish you went further in detail for many of the individual topics, some were really interesting but only got a few sentences

Mann I love small channels that are growing because they are HUNGRY. produce amazing content. Keep going bro

Great video. Great series idea. Cut the intro to just “say my name” it’ll work better and it still the pun across. We want to dive into the video content as quick as possible! 😅

Really great video! Hella fun watch!

11:45 this actually happened to me as well, maybe 15 years ago, where I got a shiny ariodos. I was a naive kid and thought it was just a cool ball gimmick (like the stickers in DP, which was out at the time) but looking back it all makes sense now.

The Eevee/dog thing got shot down b/c the beta dex has the 3 beasts in their beta form. Also before Lugia was put in their was another possible legendary in a silver lion beast, the one of the Cryptodex logo, whose dex entry is close to Ho-Ohs. Which leads to the new ongoing theory that Ho-Oh was meant to lead the 3 birds & this silver beast the 3 dogs

Should’ve mentioned the Korean version of Pokémon Gold and Silver. They were the only Pokémon games to come out in South Korea before they lifted the Japan Import ban. Also they can only be played in a gameboy color because of the needed for the Korean letters.

Absolutely legendary music choice. PokeremixStudio is and always will be the king.

My take on the legendary beasts were that they were 3 Eevee. To me it makes more since that 3 unevolved normal types would have died in the fire, because why would fire and water types have died in the fire. It still fits with with all of the eeveelution theory’s evidence, plus I think it fits better with the idea that they represent the lighting that stuck the tower, the fire that burned it down, and the rain that put it out if they were turned into those types rather than already being them.

The reason shiny-locked mons still have shiny forms is because they have to. The game has a data block for each mon that defines its name, stats, colors, etc. It's like a printed form; every mon has the same form and just different information on it. But, you can't leave an entry in a data block blank; there has to be _something_ there.

The berserk gene wasn’t the only item to only exist in gen 2, the pink bow was the normal-type boosting item in GSC but was replaced with the silk scarf gen 3-onwards

Amazing content, totally worth subscribing 🎉

i remember getting my first shiny from the karate guru in the cave in johto Shiny tyrouge i was so amazed i thought it was a glitch lmaooo (crystal)

This was such a good watch, appreciate the effort that went into this!

Shiny Pokémon were easy in gen 2 provided you can trade. Catch the red gyarados, trade to gen 1. Teach mimic, go find a ditto, then mimic transform. The ditto will copy shiny gyarados then let it use transform 1 more time to copy stats. Now catch the ditto and it’ll be shiny. You can use this for breeding and have 1/64 chance of shiny hatches.

to the top with this one!!

I like your voice it was pleasant watching the whole video which is rare for me, thank you so much I’ll subscribe

Please more Pokemon iceberg videos btw don’t know how I found u but damn what a gem u just earned another subscriber ❤

Awesome video and thank you for it.

Another great video!

I didn't know i needed to see armored octillery but it's clearly the Superior one

3:95 I got a shinny Crabby in my 1st playthough of Silver as a kid. I found him under a rock (literally XD) in Cianwood city just by pure chance

Awesome sauce

All of your videos are really good. I discovered your channel recently, binged watched it and subscribed. I wonder if you know about Gen 2 Glitch City and the Glitch City Ghost Girl?

I remember as a kid when pkmn like whooper got leaked and how it blew my mind. A classmate of mine had pkmn silver with a caught lugia on his copy and that was impressive to me. The whole pkmn silver/gold ( I had gold ) era was a vibe. Crystal felt somehow different, like a completion. It felt like freedom. I never forget it, its burned in my memories. The ice cave before the 8th gym was hard af lmao

Another eigenberg video. Lets goooo. 2k subs incoming!

20:08 This brings back such bad memories...

I remember my joy when I saw Kanto included in my Pokemon Crystal, all thanks to Satoru Iwata. May he rest in peace

imagine the pokemon vault of rejected pokemon they sift back through every time there's a new generation

I believe the Iwata compression fact was just debunked by DidYouKnowGaming

"Our words will remain here for the ages"

Some of them are just wrong... Like the "compression algorithm"... No he made a code to improve frame rate buffers, and in fact results in more used storage space not less.

Idk why i always thought the unknown pokemon were so dope i used to have a whole squad with nothing but unknowns lmao good times 😅

I really like beta Kingdra; it might even be cooler looking than its final design.

I love that Spaceworld 97's version of Unown, アンノーン, just looks like a canonized MissingNo.

I just want sequels or side story’s to OOT MM WW and the third oracle with remakes of the other two and the link thing work with all three then some kind of minish cap sequel. I just feel like hearing a mad announcement like Ocarina of Time 2, Majora’s Mask 2, WindWaker2, Minish Cap 2 sounds cool

Thank god you are saying arceus in the correct way

One thing worth mentioning regarding shiny locked Pokemon is that Generation 2 started to shiny lock Pokemon, not Gen 5 as many people believe. In addition to the ones you mentioned, all NPC trades are shiny locked starting with Generation 2 all the way up to the modern games. Only games where NPC trades are not shiny locked are Gen 1, the Let's GO games and interestingly enough, the Isle of Armor DLC in SwSh.

Eisenberg back at it with another banger

God lance and reds theme songs go hard

Giovanni in team Rainbow Rocket is probably a parallel universe-Giovanni. He even states (in maybe a bit of a broken translation) that he's never had a kid challenge him before, but it makes him feel nostalgic nevertheless (...子供に詰めよられる。わたしにとってありえないことだがなぜだか懐かしくもある。). Implying that he hasn't been faced by Red, Blue, Ethan or Kris, but somehow shares a memory with the parallel universe Giovanni who _was_ defeated by them.

We should live in a world where Woopers design never changed.

I would seriously love a gen 3 ice berg because there is way too little information covered for it

Beta Wooper my beloved. ☺

Holy carp. Gen 2 had SO MANY unused Pokemon. Also, I really want to try that version of the game that was still on the original Game Boy, with it's limited pallet. Those ugly sprites and limited colors are nostalgic to me. lol

17:00 remeber that in HG/SS are no mega evolutions and in US/UM is the mega evolutions universe (there are 2 universes confirmed by Zinnia in OR/AS) that Giovanni we saw in US/UM is the one in HG/SS who is somehow teleported to the mega evolition universe and became the leader of raibow rocket recruiting leaders of other teams from the no mega evolutions universe, that's why we see Archie and Maxie (different from the ones in OR/AS

Interesting that the medicine was going to be in Ecruteak rather than Cianwood, they share music after all

Re Giovanni, the water looks shallow so my guess is he was stomping and splashing in a pissed-off tantrum after losing to a kid. XD

Lots of question but not many answers. Still a interesting vid. Also it was revealed recently that they "forgot" Kris during the beginning dev for HG/SS.

IN BEDEVERYBODY PULL OUT 😂

Great video!

Amazing work

My 1st ever shiny was in Gold Version, a dratini outside of Blackthorn City. I thought it was a glitch.

We want more pokemon iceberg.Hooray

I played the spaceworld rom and found a shiny caterpie

I like to believe there is a parallel universe where beta mon are the normal pokémon we see.

I kind of like the original theory that Red somehow died during his journey after becoming the champ. Maybe he felt that he reached the absolute peak as a trainer, and from a sense of unsatisfactory, he proceeds to haunt the "highest peak" or highest altitude of both regions. You as Gold obviously defeat him, giving his phantom the final satisfaction of a worthy challenge, and thus he leaves and moves on to the afterlife right after without a word. But of course, this isn't what the Sun and Moon team had in mind.

29:00 this sprite is veeeeerrrry similar to Fennekin from X & Y

Nice video

(01:48) the ruins at that angle gives me Sada/Turo battle vibes

Who does the voiceover for the Vietnamese Crystal screenshots 😭😭 Not in like a weird way she just has a calming voice

Ok, here we go 😊

1:30 i've allways thought the name is Alph-ruins cause alf and his alien-race was there...

On the Stadium games, nicknames and random occurrences can both cause shinies to appear.

Unless he's appeared in other Gabby's without mega evolutions, Red really could be dead in Crystal since that's a different universe than Sun and Moon

The Iwata trivia has been debunked. Yes, GF claims it to be true, but it's actually been known for a while and DYKG actually covered it on the most recent GSC breakdown. The myth claims Iwata wrote a compression algorithm that allowed Kanto's map to live in a compressed form on the ROM cartridge. What ACTUALLY allowed Kanto to exist was an expanded mapper chip used in the cartridge. The compression Algorithm Iwata actually committed in the game code, (as his name is left in the comments of the function) is a quicker graphics loading DECOMPRESSION algorithm for battles. Running the game without the decompression algorithm makes the game load battles slower. ADDITIONALLY, the decompression algorithm actually takes up MORE rom space in the cartridge than the previous decompression algorithm used in RBY.

Actually the concept of shiny pokemon was introduced in the manga and anime, we knew of shinies before the games, the games followed suit to add then in there, we fiest learned about shinies when ash caught his shiny noctowl, back in the day growing up, we all watched pokemon AND played, youd have to have been there in the 90s to get it lol

Im going to subscribe assuming that youll do an iceberg video for Pokemon Gens 3 onwards.

A few problems with your video, 1. In the Pokémon adventures manga red goes back home after losing to gold on mount silver, 2. There are multiple timelines in Pokémon, just because the games have an order doesn’t mean that’s the chronological order nor does it mean that it takes place in the same world. The events of X and Y are known as the “Mega Timeline” where every everything from gen 1 to gen 6 are in the “Mega Timeline” where as everything after is not. In the timeline where Red and Blue show up in Alola, their world was mostly destroyed after Kyogre and Groudon destroyed the planet, meaning they are separate from the red and blue we have from kanto to kalos. If you remember when they showed up in that game it was during the rainbow rocket after game, where multiple evil leaders came from different timelines to the timeline that takes place for us in the alola region games. If you do the end game wormholes for legendary Pokémon and ultra beasts, you will travel to a world where guzzlord has eaten all Pokémon, people and everything else.

A quilava with the move clap will never not be funny to me

i wish we could have gotten that dark type pinsir evolution from the demos. scyther & pinsir are both in my top 6 gen 1 pokemon but scizor is better then pinsir so i stopped using pinsir after replacing the one i’d catch from the bug catching contest for a stronger pokemon later in the game

Ah yes. The azure flute in gen 2 that didn’t exist

This content is amazing. Hope to see more like this. Subbed!

Time stamps for each ice berg level is needed 💯 and needs a picture of the full iceberg.

My moms cooking has me up at 3am watching this on the toilet

Red doesn't call his mom because he doesn't have a PokeGear.

I believe that the three roaming legendary dogs were actually just Eevees that were due to be evolved, due to the interference of the birds and the extreme situation their evolutions went past just a flareon jolteon and vaporeon like a 2.0 of them

Luvdisc's shiny is gold-esque, potentially as a nod to the term "a heart of gold" Additionally, the Beldum line has silver-esque shinies Could that also be a nod to the then-theorized Johto remakes or is it too much of a stretch?

25:56 It would have been so metal if they made MissingNo official

I have a shiny E Unown in my SS game!! and I think shortly after I caught another shiny Gyarados (not the one everyone gets, but a second one)

This showed up on my RU-vid, Quality content too

26:19 primarina is that you? And 29:24 is that a zygarde blob?