Iceberg | Pokémon Legends Arceus 

it's funny that just a day before this video came out a dataminer confirmed that blissey doesn't heal you, she fakes it.

Thank you for this Iceberg, Even though I've been a Pokemon fan for over 15 years, Legends Arceus is my favorite game.

One thing you missed was Arceus’ punishment. Arceus punished Dialga and Palkia so they couldn’t use Roar of Time and Spacial Rend by blocking Dialga’s throat and removing Palkia’s arms. This explains their new forms

I think you forgot to mention that Volo and Cogita are Celestrians, the ancient folk that lived in Hisui who worshipped Arceus and mysteriously disappeared, leaving the land for the Diamond and Pearl Clan to settle in.

Should be noted that Chansey/Blissey don't *actually* heal you, they just run over to you when you're injured. While that is abnormal, the healing is just the regular old character healing over time.

It is much more likely that Alder's Ancestor is a member of the so-called Hisui Clan, the clan that we aren't told about the island is named after. Hisui means 'halcyon' or 'jade'. We see the color jade in Alder's Ancestor's clothing, but we also see it in Cogita's tent and Cogita's tent is built in an identical fashion to what the two clans use. Cogita does not appear to be herself from Hisui, for the following reasons: - She knows of Kalosian/Paldean/Galarian fashion. - She exhibits traits associated with Romanticism, a reaction to the enlightenment that emphasized a return to nature, a fascination with death and the sublime, of high emotions, and a byronnic unhappiness. - She exhibits stereotypically white nobility traits, with animations that suggest a noble frailty to every action. If Cogita's foreign, then she got the green tent from someone else. She lives in what is called "The Hidden Village" in Japanese. If you consider now that there's only one person in the whole game associated with the color green, then it stands to reason that Cogita inherited her role and her current accommodations from Alder's Ancestor, who either died or left the island afterwards. She, like Volo, appears to not identify with the term 'Celestica', but with the term 'Sinnoh', which is probably the name of the people that preceded the Ancient Hero and those who fled the island in an unspecified time period that resembles the red sky event. If that is the case, it would explain why Volo is obsessed with answers and Arceus allowing suffering, while Cogita is more aloof; they are both the descendants of ancient Sinnohan refugees. It is probable that at some point in the past, the Diamond and Pearl Clan came from Sinjoh to Hisui, to discover that their ancestral homeland was still inhabited, in spite of expecting that it would one day be abandoned to only the pokémon who lived there. Several generations in, the inhabitants were absorbed by the newcomers or pushed out, and Cogita meets the final non-partisan original inhabitant, whom she learns the truth from. She then chooses to stay behind, bathing in byronnic unhappiness, until the prophecy comes true that Alder's Ancestor told her about. Alder's Ancestor may have used the Cave of Being in search of ancestors and ended up in Unova instead, explaining how his descendants ended up there.

Last time I was this early, Arceus was pronounced Arceus.

I'm surprised you didn't bring up that the player character might not actually be from the future, and could just be a human from the real world. I don't think the game ever actually confirms that your character is a time traveler, and you can give some dialogue options that imply you are from a world without pokemon.

Will update this as I watch - some corrections 1 - I think the Arceus we fight at the end of LA is Arceus' true form, it gives us a piece of itself that looks the same, sure - but there's no reason to think that the form we see isn't its true identity. 2 - Melli is related to Penny - and by association - Peony, Peonia and Rose 3 - Chansey and Blissey don't actually heal you, its just an animation to make it seem like they do, the health recovery rate stays the same 4 - Cubchoo isn't the only Pokémon mentioned not in the game - one example is Copperajah being in Raichu's dex entry 5 - Ingo likely isn't a "Faller" - that's a term used for people who appear from Ultra Wormholes, not Space-Time Distortions

Your videos are amazing; just had a 4 mile walk and listening to your videos made it go by in no time and I feel like I've learned a lot:D

it just hit me that the voice you hear on the Manaphy quest says "Fioooo" which sounds a lot like "Fiore", where Manaphy's Egg originally comes from o.0

I love that Pokemon branches into time travel. Even the player characters experience string theory too, where some universes have shiny legendries, and some don't

One extra thing if sanqua is the ancestor to karen and clair that makes her the ancestor of Lance too because lance is clairs cousin

Theoretical connections you mentioned that I strongly disagree with: - Hapu and Sabi. They're both short girls, that's it. Their cheeks and overall appearances aren't very similar. - Calaba and Mina, disproved by Calaba's younger art. - Gaeric and Crasher Wake. Not sure where you got that one, since he's not related to wrestling, Water types, or very similar to Crasher Wake in appearance. - Laventon and Leon/Hop. The concept art of Laventon without his hat shows that his hair doesn't match either brother, both in color and in style. He's definitely from Galar, but that alone isn't much to go off of. - Iscan and Nessa. Dark skin and type specialization alone are not evidence of relation. - Palina and Magnolia/Sonia. I really just don't see it. Also, wouldn't it be safe to assume Iscan and Palina get married and would share descendants, so their descendants would have aspects of both? - Tuli and Greta/Bianca. I guess the hair color is kinda there (albeit a bit off since Tuli isn't a yellow-blonde), but that's really it. The hair style isn't that similar to either present-day character. - Meli and Avery. Long hair (stylized differently between the two) and type usage alone are not enough evidence. - Irida and May/Serena. There is zero resemblance. - "You erase your ancestor." I'd instead argue that your rival is your ancestor, regardless of gender. Volo is not a time traveler or an immortal. All the "evidence" is way too circumstantial, nothing concrete. I've left plenty of comments on Toby's videos about how incorrect this is. That image is obviously not Alder. That's another one I've left comments on Toby's videos disagreeing with him. An Alder ancestor though, that's likely. It's nothing more than fan fiction to say that the man in the portrait and Alder are the same. Cogita is not immortal. Her statement of "she will be in your care for now" is clearly that Enamorus will become a free-roaming spirit once again. Note that she never had possession of it, had only befriended it. It also makes no sense for her to be the originator of the Old Verses; recall that she had to think to remember how one of them goes. Perhaps she transcribed them at some point, though. I find it highly unlikely that Hisui and Kalos were at war in AZ's time, considering they're presumably on opposite sides of the Pokemon world.

I've only just finished Legends Arceus (I got my Switch a few months ago - long story) and this was fascinating. You just don't expect this sort of depth in something that people write off as 'only a kids game). It's something all the various clones seem not to realise.

Also for 14:17 the game being centered around time and space rift and mentionned everywhere in the own game, even Arceus when you fight him say that you conquered both space and time then the more likely outcome is the character you play as simply didn't exist in this parallel timeline wich is why Arceus send you here to save this world I also think Arceus sent you in a Alternate earth because in the protagonist original world either Cyrus didn't exist or they came from a world withouth Pokemon meaning the payable character had no purpose wich could make sense since Akari/Rei seemed bored on the bed before seeing Arceus and also PLA got a obvious Isekai setting (wich could add up with the protagonist having no succes/goal in their original world since it's common in Isekai)

3:41 FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT! Honestly, every time I looked at a post abt who is who's ancestor, I thought I was the only one who made the connection "Ariana, Silver and Mars all look similar so they all are probably descendants of Arezu"😅

Ingo is by no means an obscure character. Ingo and Emmet are some of the most popular characters from the Black and White era in Pokemon, and they maintained a very devoted fanbase for like, a decade. We're totally fine by the way, we're Fine :)

Babe wake up, a new EisenBerg video dropped 👀

Love this! Your videos are stellar and I binge them from time to time, I appreciate you my friend

I hope Z-A will give us the answers we need about Cogita

Holy fucking shit you COOKED hard with this iceberg bro! Good shit 👏

17:37 "A brave human will fight God, slow time across the land and the seas. Dark times are around." My interpretation of that one.

I was waiting for this one! I am glad I subscribed to your channel 3 weeks ago.

If I can offer an iceberg suggestion, you should make a Pokepark or Pokemon Rumble Iceberg. I don't believe there are icebergs of them on youtube.

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Hell yes!! I just started replaying legends arceus for the 2nd time with the goal of completing the pokedex. The second time is even better as im slowing down and taking in a lot of details i missed.

I simply LOVE how much attention to detail Nintendo and the Pokémon company go to making these games. So many secrets and hidden things to discover with actual meaning as opposed to being there just for the fudge of it

damn i didn't noticed the jubilife village theme evolution. that was a very interesting idea

I like the thought that paldea was the one at war with Kalos and that’s what produced Area Zero.

another beautifully made video, great iceberg as always, i learned a lot :))

finnaly, legends arceus iceberg

This was SOOOOO COOL!!! I knew most of the stuff in this video but the theories were epic and my favourite was the one about Kalos being at war with Sinnoh! Such an interesting idea that probably will never get confirmed, BUT seeing as how once ZA comes out, there’ll be only 2 legends games, and those games will be Kalos & Sinnoh…that theory may actually be true!

Is there a possiblity to do a Pokemon Trading card iceberg? If so try make a iceberg about

Congradz on the 10K subs!! :D

Yesterday, Anubis proved that Chansey and Blissey dont heal you

Damn dude this Video is coming at perfectly right time. Thanks a lot sir🥳

Ok volo being Cynthia's grandfather confirmed

Cogita being immortal explains.why volo is as they are possibly related

A interesting documentary about Legends Of Arceus

The pokemon can shrink thing makes even more since bc everytime you knocc a pokemon out it shrinks unless its another trainers pokemon

Bro, you should have way more subscribers.

So many little details and mysteries for us fans to pick apart all packed into one game, fantastic! If Legends Z-A even has half as much stuff like this, daresay, even more of it, then we're in for quite the time indeed.

Hop and leon have the same skin color as laventon too

I’m a simple person. I see Legends Arceus/Adaman and I click.

The story at 20:37 sounds a lot a story you see at the end of act 2 in Wu Kong guess that story has its origin in China before it got to Japan

Is this the reason they skipped gen 5 and went straight to Kalos for the next Legends game? To explore their relarions during the war?

The parasect that lack mushrooms are lobotomized, or corpses.

It barely expands the understanding about pokémon history (besides, a thing that nearly every pokémon player knows NOTHING about). It is almost entirely about human history. Sure, it reveals that Arceus can use D/P/G's powers at will, but it was already known Arceus is a cresture of control that trapped the 3 dragons to force-serve xit. It reveals how Arceus came to care about humans, but again, it's part human history, and it's not really relevant to the history of Pokémon. It reveals a little bit about the dawn of the multiverse, when the dragons were free, but apart from this information it doesn't tell further. It also reveals Giratina's powers a bit more which is...something. The real main lore thing related to pokémon here was the canonization of the 90s lore of Pokéballs, previously only written in an official magazine, a gruesome description of how Pokéballs force Pokémon to shrink theough injections of tranquillizers, tested on a Primeape that caused his death. Laventon re-confirmed it as game-canon by stating that Pokéballs force Pokémon to shrink. This is, human history actually lol but it does reveal about Pokémon history a lot, for those few gems that know the Pokémon lore, by revealing that Pokémon shrink when exhausted.

In my opinion Gaeric looks more similar to Brycen the ice gym leader from Unova.

Am I the only one who thought irida had a connection to Barry

I'm hoping we get a Pokémon Legends Lugia so we get characters that look bizarrely like Donna Summer and Weird Al Yankovic. That's how it works, right?

Cyllene rolling in her grave...

Man you know what is HD? my eyes are hurting a lot through this video

What was the music played in the intro?

8:11 Copperajah is mentioned in Raichus dex entry and part of the Galaxy team building is based off Galatian Weezing

It's also worth noting that Team Galactic is called Ginga-dan, which translates to Galaxy Gang.

i have woken up to a banger🎉

This video is cool but some of these are more like statements lol

Why am i scared of Arceus so much

Melli is clearly an ancestor of Penny

7:33 I don't get it, please help

Never ever has a thumbnail made me feel SO STUPID

How do you have 10k subs.. I swear you have millions of views

Why did you capture Switch footage on a 240p Siemens phone from the 2000s?

one thing you missed with Meli is that his hair also resembles Lucian's, the Sinnoh psychic E4 member, making him and Avery potentially related. also, I offer up my own theory for the list that I think you will find very interesting: Cynthia is Volo reincarnated. each ancestor is given about one or two things that hint to their family line. most are a visual clue+a pokemon clue (like Sanqua's hair+the umbreon) or a visual clue+an affinity for a certain element or behavior pattern. but Volo and Cogita are different. Cogita is the one with a simple visual clue that makes her seem related to Cynthia, specifically in her all black wardrobe and knowledge of Hisui's legends. all 3 share the black teardrop item and the blond hair swoop, but those are clearly meant to be features of the Celestica people, and not Cynthia specifically. therefor, only Cogita has the same limited and subtle-but-not clues to her connection like everyone else. where as Volo has *so many* it's legitimately insane. in fact, it's outright overkill, like we're being beaten over the head with it and that's what makes me think there's more to it. Volo has Cynthia's theme, almost her exact team down to always starting with Spiritomb, they both have the same "The Researcher of Myths" title, they both spend the whole game sneaking up on the player and overseeing our progress throughout the story. to me, these feel like they're *too* specific. like, the very second his official art was shown we all instantly knew he was related to Cynthia, we didn't need ANY of this to tell us that. his hair alone was all we needed. for them to go to this length to connect them, it feels as if it's meant to tell us there's more to their connection than a mere family tree. but what really synches it for me, is the story. Volo uses Giratina in an attempt to subjugate Arceus and bend it to his will in order to create a world without suffering, and when he's defeated, he vows no matter how long it takes he will meet Arceus. in Platinum, when Cyrus does the exact same thing, it's Giratina who appears to put a stop to it, as if recognizing and remembering what happened before, and where Cynthia works together with the player to stop Cyrus (and side note, the PLA player is the exact same character as the player in D/P/PT/BDSP and it's likely this event is why they were chosen to go back in time to stop Volo. they'd already proven they were strong enough to do exactly what was needed), and it's after this that Cynthia is able to meet Arceus in the Sinjoh ruins event, fulfilling Volo's wish after helping to prevent a repeat of history, repenting Volo's sins. I believe Volo died some time after the game's events, but through the piece left with the player who then showed Arceus the world through human eyes, it decided to give Volo another chance in a new life, one not marred by pain and suffering, but still connected to his beloved Celestica people. it's through this new life that Cynthia retains her love of Arceus and Sinnoh's myths and past, carrying over much of Volo's innocent traits (his love for his team, sneaking up on people, his prowess in battle etc) but that lack of suffering allowed Cynthia to be a far better person and love with her heart fully unclouded, making her a powerful force for good. but this time it's Cyrus who had the painful childhood (possibly related to the ghosts of the old chateau) who caused him to develop the same ideology Volo once did, and it is due to Cynthia's actions in helping to stop Cyrus's plan (and therefor repenting Volo's sin) that Arceus blesses her and fulfills Volo's one true wish.

I didn't pick up on any of this when I played Legends Arceus so this video was incredibly helpful. I love Pokemon lore so much it is so interesting and mysterious.

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Is the skipping just me?

i am also here

I love your content, but that pausing bit damn near had me turning the video off 😂 just some constructive feedback

Having no Abilities, and since SV was made around the same time, it is possible that SV was made with having the Abilities featured, but never featured their effects outside of battles.

I'd say counterpart over ancestors Husui works closer to an alternate universe kinda like how jojo part nine The Steel Ball Run is a alternate setting who just happens to be behind i.e. The wild west and in Pokémon case ancient japan a remixed past with many remixed versions characters and things from the present/future just beingaround. With scarlet and violet being the only true sequel since it continues the new dimension.

I am present

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Good video but for the ancestor at part 6:58 I think Melli is more of a ancestor to Lucian from the elite 4 or simply Jupiter since he have a Skuntank like her For Irida at 7:14 I think her ancestor is simply reserved for a later game or with a bit of strech she could of been N ancestor since they seem to share the same thought process about keeping Pokemon free but the only way it would make sense was if Adaman and her had child since Yellow and Blue make Green 🤔 (but with Perrin being a confirmed ancestor to the Diamond Clan lead probably won't happen)

Say. My. Name. 😈

To think people online were wacking the game when it first launch back then and now is quite literally one of the best games of the whole franchise

8:10 Ingo hints at remembering his Chandelure but idk if that counts

You didn’t mention that the out of bounds room is the same room the player has in DP and BDSP confirming that Legends Arceus is a prequel/sequel and we play as Dawn or Lucas in both games

Im glad I caught a shiny Arceus. I am blessed ❤️

God I love this game

There's four other parts Necrozma, Eternatus, Terapagos, and the A legendary It's all alchemy Four parts of Archeus

Missed opportunity to include the fact that Legends Arceus doesn't actually take place in the past but instead takes place in the post-apocalyptic future. The reason why it's that is because of the way how time travel works in Pokémon, as we know that grandfather paradoxes are possible in Pokémon, but not bootstrap paradoxes, and this is important because in Legends Arceus, near the end of the game, the protagonist defeated Volo and Giratina in a long and arduous battle, altering the timeline and preventing the bad future from happening in the process, but the aftermath is what ultimately determines the timeline placement of Legends Arceus, because if Legends Arceus took place in the past, then it would mean that the protagonist is from the bad future and because of this, after defeating Volo and preventing the bad future from happening, the protagonist would start to slowly disappear into non-existence, as the protagonist had inadvertently created a grandfather paradox, however, what actually happened after defeating Volo and preventing the bad future from happening is that the protagonist doesn't disappear and instead simply continues to exist, implying that the protagonist can't actually be from the bad future and therefore Legends Arceus can't actually take place in the past, meaning that the protagonist must instead be from the past and therefore Legends Arceus must instead take place in the post-apocalyptic future.

Volo spent too much time in area 11

I dont understand why people still powerscale and overhype pokemons after this game released, they showed how not powerful these supposed gods are 1) Giratina the supposed God of Antimatter, ran away in fear of a 15 year old, remember how fans overhyped it by saying its the God of Antimatter? guess what a 15 year old is enough to scare it away and Giratina couldn't even use any of its Antimatter powers 2) Arceus the supposed God is so useless that it couldn't even stop Giratina from making pokemon go berserk and needed a 15 year old's help to do so 3) a 15 yr old is also enough to fight and dodge Arceus the supposed God of pokemon and before you say that Arceus was a fraction, it's never stated that it was a fraction, we fight the full Arceus, the Arceus we receive is the fraction, not the one we fight, we fight the full one but pokemon fans will still stay in denial because of their lack of reading comprehension skills

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