Ichigo Vs Vergil Speed 😱 

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You know we never see Ichigo’s true bankai, right? What you see is his shikai.

​@@giggsy__ Can't change the fact that he is still 5D, Vergil at base is 11D lmfao

@@TheLostZoro872 I, too, pull shit out of my ass.

It's more like to TYBW Ichigo what Substitute Shinigami arc Ichigo is to HM White/Vasto Lorde Ichigo Base now would be somewhere below Dangai but above VL while True Shikai is >= Dangai

I don't know where you got the info, but the fastest person in bleach is Yoruichi and her speed as only ever gone sub relativistic, and may be +SR after her bankai.... People been saying FTL so casually that they forgot how fast 300,000 km/s really is... Now as far as vergil goes, he has had solid proof of going immeasurable...

Vergil is immeasurable in speed thanks to the Devil May Cry: Peak of Combat scans that state Pluto is immeasurable in speed, and Vergil massively upscales from Pluto. (The chain is Pluto < Mundus < Sparda < DMC1 Dante < Argosax < DMC2 Dante < DMC4 Dante < Beginning of Game DMC5 Dante < 1st Fight Urizen < 3rd Fight Urizen < SDT Unlocked Dante < Resurrected DMC5 Vergil < Final Boss Fight DMC5 Vergil = Final Boss Fight DMC5 Dante). And that’s not including nuances like DT, since in cutscene Dante beats 3rd Fight Urizen in BASE.

Well, it's clear that Vergil's sword swings are fast, but that's only part of the equation when it comes to his overall speed. In truth, his dodges and teleports are even faster, and a game - no matter how well-made - just can't do justice to the level of speed he is capable of. So while it may have seemed like Ichigo's flashstep was faster than Vergil's dodges, it's just not true in reality.

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Ichigo may have been able to deflect 100 00000 senbonzakura petals, but that doesn't mean that his speed is unmatched. In Devil May Cry 5, Vergil is able to react nearly instantaneously to many attacks and perform multiple complicated movements in the same amount of time. This shows that Vergil has the upper hand in speed. In addition, Vergil's mastery of the Time Blade gives him an even greater advantage - he can freeze time for a few seconds, which gives him the time to react and make complex movements in what appears to be the blink of an eye. So when it comes to who's faster, there's no doubt that Vergil is the victor.

​@@TheRealNiroxVergil is faster right, but Ichigo is faster then you showed in the video. I mean True Bankai + H.O.S Ichigo is definitely faster than false bankai without hollow mask. Hollow mask gives at minimum x2 speed boost and 20x at maximum. H.O.S is basically perfect mastered Hollow Mask so yeah, even with just false bankai in tybw arc Ichigo was faster than in his fight with Byakuya. Vergil is faster this is obvious, but Ichigo is not weak( don't compare him to Vergil, it's unfair )

Well, it's clear that you are either unaware of the difference between an animated show and a video game, or you are simply trying to downplay Vergil's superiority in order to make a baseless argument in favor of Ichigo. First of all, it's important to note that the comparison you are making is between a video game and an animated show, which are two completely different mediums with their own set of limitations and advantages. It's not fair to compare the two and expect them to be on the same level of accuracy and detail. In the context of the game, Vergil is a fully-playable character whose abilities and movements are meant to be replicated by the player. This means that the developers had to ensure that his movements and abilities were accurately represented and that he was balanced within the game. On the other hand, an animated show is simply a visual representation of events and actions, and it is not meant to be taken as a completely accurate or definitive portrayal of a character's abilities. The animators have a lot more creative freedom and are not bound by the same constraints as game developers. With that being said, it's clear that the game represents Vergil's abilities much more accurately and definitively than the show represents Ichigo's abilities. Therefore, it's not fair to compare the two and try to make a case for Ichigo based on an animated show. I hope this clears things up and helps you understand why Vergil's speed is far superior to Ichigo's, regardless of what you may perceive in the show.

@@TheRealNirox I'm not hating on vergil but I'm just saying that the clips u use proved nothing, UNLESS ur talking about the lore, not thr game. Cos ik that vergil can solo the bleach verse in the lore

@@tiradeee Yes Ik , It can't be proved, unless the medium of comparison is same ! which in this case is not . Moreover , its about the meaning.. Vergil is undoubtedly faster and stronger than Ichigo.. and you can't deny that .

Mf is said to be multiversal in his base form already by people, Devil trigger basically just a violation to Ichigo

Well, it's clear that you haven't actually watched the show or paid attention to the various feats and abilities displayed by both Ichigo and Vergil. First of all, the concept of "mftl+" (multi-fold faster than light) is not even remotely feasible in the context of the real world or even most fictional universes. Furthermore, even in the context of the show, Ichigo has never actually demonstrated such absurd speeds. In fact, if we consider the various feats and showings of both characters, it's clear that Vergil is far superior in terms of speed. Just to list a few examples: Vergil has been shown to be able to effortlessly dodge and react to attacks from beings with much faster reflexes and reaction times than him. He has also demonstrated the ability to teleport short distances almost instantaneously, as well as the ability to move at high speeds while still being able to perceive and react to his surroundings. In contrast, Ichigo has never shown any feats that come close to matching these abilities. Ichigo reaches hypersonic speed in the show, not MFTL+. Vergil surpasses Ichigo in terms of speed, and most importantly, control. He is able to move faster with more precision and agility. This also means that Vergil can react faster and is more effective in combat. Not to mention that Vergil retains his agility even when using his faster speed which is an key factor in victory. It's clear that Vergil's speed far surpasses that of Ichigo, and it's not even a close contest. Please try to educate yourself before making such ridiculous and unfounded claims in the future.

@@TheRealNirox uryuu was able to outpace his shadow which is a ftl feat Ichigo is obviously much faster in his shikai than uryuu, I'm gonna lowball him and say he's twice as fast as him His bankai and his hollow mask each give a 10x multiplier as it was stated in the show. Ulq was able to match with Ichigo in his base form and since each resurrection is like a bankai each res gives him yet another 10x speed boost for each ressurection (we are now at 20000 ftl) If we lowball aizen and say that each transformation of his is a 10x multiplier with his 6 hogyoku fusions, we casually reached 20000000000 times ftl, which Ichigo matched in his dangai form (not even his strongest form)

Also consider that I'm lowballing him to oblivion

@@beto2143 Wow! That's...quite the theory you've come up with there. I'm sure you must have watched the show in a very special way to make this kind of assumption. Unfortunately, you've wildly overestimated the power of a lot of characters in the show and have even mischaracterised a few of their abilities. For starters, Uryuu's shadow outrunning feat is an impressive feat, but just because he can move faster than his own shadow doesn't mean he can move faster than light. That's an incredibly common misconception that a lot of people make. Secondly, Ichigo's Shikai and Bankai don't give him multipliers of 10x as you suggest. As a matter of fact, Ichigo's Bankai actually gives him a minor speed boost as opposed to a massive 10x multiplier. In addition, Ichigo's Hollow Mask was never stated to give him a 10x multiplier either, so you're making assumptions that are not supported by the show. As for Aizen's transformations, you've wildly overestimated the potency of his power. The transformations are simply just a way for him to power up and use stronger abilities, and there's no indication whatsoever that it increases his speed. In fact, if you watch the show more closely, it's clear that Aizen actually has a very mediocre speed, so again, you've wildly exaggerated the potency of his transformations. And your claim that Ichigo matches Aizen in his Bankai form is undeniably false. Ichigo has never been able to match Aizen in terms of speed and Ichigo certainly doesn't have the ability to move faster than light. This claim is not only ridiculous, but it's provably false. Your theory is based on quite a few false assumptions, and the feats of the characters you mentioned don't justify your claims. If you want to make such claims, it's important to back them up with facts from the show and not just wild theories. Otherwise, people aren't going to take you seriously ! Finally, your logic of lowballing everyone else but Ichigo is flawed, as you seem to be forgetting that other characters in the show have also demonstrated numerous impressive feats of speed, such as Vergil's teleportation and speed-blitzing of opponents that have much faster reflexes than him. So in conclusion, your argument is based on untrue facts and false logic. The show has clearly shown that Ichigo is not anywhere near being capable of MFTL speeds, and that Vergil is the undisputed speed demon of the show. And I'll say it again pal Please try to educate yourself more before making such unfounded claims in the future.

@@TheRealNirox your claims literally mean nothing Firstly uryuu outrunning shadow is obviously ftl as the visibility of shadow is much faster than light. Secondly it was literally stated a bankai and a hollow mask give the user a 10x multiplier. Aizens transformations are obviously stronger than any of the espadas ressurections and the only reason I decided to scale them as high as a normal ressurection is just because we don't know a lot about them Lastly I'm once again stating it's not even his strongest form. I have arguments true bankai Ichigo completely blows dangai Ichigo out of the water