The video is welcomed and my comment is in no way a criticism, however, the pen size sharpener is mainly for camping, travelling and keeping your SAK sharpened whilst away from home,the groove down the centre can be used for sharpening fish hooks.Worth mentioning that if you wear a leather belt you can use the inside of it as a strop by hanging the buckle on a branch,you can use a little solid soap making it more effective. .A useful video.
Thanks! I agree entirely about this being a field sharpener. I tend to use it at home as well for my most used pocket knives because it is easier to get out and use, rather than a more complicated sharpening system that I have. And I am stropping a lot more now. Item instead of sharpening. I'll have a video coming up on that in a couple of weeks
i do agree. The size and shape makes it ideal for taking it with you. I bought one also roughly a year ago, and it lives in my backpack for work. As i dislike utility blades (no matter the normal ones or the ones to break off) i prefer using resharpenable blades for cutting things. And it's nice to have something with you in remote areas which can bring back the Leatherman i have in the backpack too, the Victorinox in my pocket, or the cable knife in my work toolbox. I was considering the Fällkniven DC3 or 4 as it also has a diamond side that would make it faster when the blade is really dull. But i do have more than one cutting implement with me and the Victorinox is taking up less space/is more convenient to store in my case. And is easily enough until now to keep them sharp. What i also did was put stropping compound onto a flat and smooth piece of cardboard. Doesn't take up much space either, and with a flat surface underneath this works great for stropping the blade. Doesn't need to be leather. I don't wear leather belts for over 10 years now. I moved tometal free belts as i do have to occasionally go through airport security for work. And while in those instances i am allowed to take tools, even knives with me, it's less of a hassle if i don't need to remove my belt. So no belt stropping for me.
I love this thing, so much that I bought two of them. (I'm forever misplacing things.) I'm disabled, and my hands are pretty much shot from both osteo and rheumatoid arthritides. This I can use without pain or difficulty. And use it I do. My Huntsman SAK is my go-to for help with my ADLs, so keeping it sharp is a must. The SAK and the sharpener are critical to maintaining my independence. Gotta love Victorinox.
I use a rubber or for our American friends an eraser to remove the grit from the ceramic rod .Great bit of kit had mine for years still going strong God bless you and your family. Lee
You know what works great to clean ceramic sharpeners? A scotch bright pad, (the green plastic wool looking scouring pads) along with Barkeepers friend cleanser/scouring powder. Ajax will also work, but BF is better. Give that a try. It makes them like new.
Great video! Thanks for doing a one year update on your thoughts! Looks like a great product, I have been thinking about picking one of these up! I have various sharpeners and strops that I use, but I am no expert at sharpening. I don't have a field stone for on the go. This would fill that void. In a pinch, I have actually had good results sharpening knives using the bottom of a ceramic coffee mug!
Thanks Eric. I think a few people use the bottom of a mug. I have the Falkniven DC3. Which is good. But too small. The DC4 would be better. The Victorinox is very easy to use for normal steels. I try to strop more often as well. Usually that's all I need to do...
@@MB_EDC it's not bad, but you have to take your time on each serration. I use the knife when beach cleaning, often cutting rope and fishing net. They quite often have sand and grit in them so the blade dulls quite quickly, but a couple of minutes with this sharpener and I'm good to go. I'm no expert, and I'm sure half the time my angle isn't great, but it still cuts well!
I just stumbled across your channel!! Nicely done with the presentation!! I own one and I love it!! I use it with all of my victorinox knives 👍🏿💯❤️🇺🇸 from Washington state.
I've bought this one recently and I love it. Previously I've been using only Lansky Spyder, but because it is made for Spyderco curved geometry specifically it does not work well for my other straight edged knives. I agree with you on pull-through part, although I have used it at least twice in a pinch when I had to bring the edge back quickly. Not gonna do that on a regular basis.
You do want to raise a burr with this. A burr means you've got a proper apex. Once you have it, a few light alternating strokes will minimise it, then a good strop will get rid of it completely and you're left with a sharp, durable edge.
@@MB_EDC As long as you're consistent, you just keep going until you can feel that burr when you slide your finger over the edge (AWAY from the cutting direction, in case anyone needs to be reminded...). It will feel rough from one side (where the burr is) and smooth from the other (where you last ground against the stone). That's how you know it's there. If it doesn't readily alternate when you swap sharpening sides, then you need to work on being more consistent with your angle. In learning how to do this, I found that investing 10 quid or so into a little portable microscope (60-100x, came with specimens to look at as well) made a lot of difference. You can actually see the burr, the grinding marks, even the relative flatness of the surface (if you orient your light source just right). A proper eye opener. I got one with a built-in light (off to the side). If I have the light on the side of the spine rather than the edge, it makes the burr light right up, no matter how small. Then you can also see the effect of going to a finer stone, what those V-notch things do (very bad things!) and whether stropping actually did anything (it should polish up the surface quite nicely. "SHOULD"... 😅).
Sharpeners like this are great for tuning up an edge, but not ideal for re-profiling or repairing serious chips/damage though. However, they are a great tool to keep around and I do recommend them for on the go EDC use. 👍 Thanks for sharing, take care my friend and Cheers!
3:55 "...sorry for the noise, it's not one of the best noises." Agreed ! That damn, so called "music" is so annoying. I came for a tutorial on sharpening ( a main part is listening to the blade / stone sound, to get it right ) Not for a sappy concertina. If i wanted to hear sad opera i'd Still be listening to my 3rd ex... ☆
Victorynox also has diamond sharpener, which is even more carry friendly,, and will take care of your harder steel knives. I like that much more that this one, which I didn't use that much and gifted away.
@@user-mb4xy2cz3t I haven't seen the Victorinox diamond sharpener. I will check it out. My concern would be that it removed s lot of metal each time you sharpen
@@MB_EDC I don't think you should worry about that. It's not coarse, I don't know the exact grit, but if I have to guess, from my experience with diamond benchstones - it feels like 800, maybe even higher. It's enough to sharpen your knife, since it's a diamond grit, but it wouldn't remove steel aggressively.
@@foureight84 It works really well on my Victorinox SAKs - which are my normal carry. I have a video comparing it to the Falkninven DC3 and another planned for a couple of the small Worksharp sharpeners.
I do leatherwork and I keep one of these in my toolbox for keeping my xacto blades sharp. Between this and a strop I can keep one blade for literally months now. Highly recommend it for that, but not much else.
@@MB_EDC I sometimes give brand new stanley blades a once-over. Gets the corner of the tip as sharp as the rest of the blade, which makes them much better for opening packages/etc. They cut like scalpels after that.
@@233kosta Brilliant. It's crazy that they get thrown away after a few uses when they get blunt. I resharpen mine. I have a video about it THROWING BLUNT UTILITY BLADES AWAY?? Utility blade resharpening using the Victorinox Dual Sharpener ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OyZfMZj6S9Y.html
@@MB_EDC I mean if you think about it, those were designed to be disposable, and for good reason - most people want to just get on with the job at hand, they don't have the time to be re-sharpening an old blade when the new one drops in and just cuts. That said, they do make excellent practice blades. For the same reason - if you ruin one, it's not like it was a super expensive bespoke knife, it's just a stanley blade. But they're still made of a hard steel (well... harder than you can get out of stainless anyway), so they're good to learn on.
It's different note with quick change blades. But with the old Stanley knives where you had to unscrew to change the blade - I could resharpen the blade quicker than changing it. Check out my video showing this....
Personally I’m not a fan of pull through sharpeners as they tend to remove a lot of metal and leave grooves in the metal along the edge, rather than at 90 degrees to the edge. I have mostly stopped using the pull through part of this Victorinox sharpener. But it it works for you no problem. Take care brother.
@@MB_EDC Its not a pull through it is a small rectangle of I guess carbide steel that you draw along the edge of the knife or vice versa. It is so hard its supposed to never wear out. It does take a fine hand or you remove too much metal. What grit is the victorinox stone?
Apologies. I have seen them, but not used one. I think they would need a lot of practice to use correctly. Again there is a risk of removing a lot of metal to get a sharp edge. As a lot of my knife use is got fairly light work - Cardboard and string - where the blade gets dull but is not damaged, I try to use a strop to bring the sharp edge back. This gives a really sharp edge with the least amount of metal removed and should prolong the life of my knives without wearing them down too much.
Please people stay away from any horizontal sharpening Devices! It will ruin EVERY blade in the long run! In a pinch fine, but not as a main way of sharpening. The horizontal long scratch pattern is inferior to the vertical short scratch pattern. In terms of strenght. It will last way longer and wont damage your apex.
Do you mean the pull-through v-shaped sharpeners? Definitely not good. I rarely use that on this sharpener now. Only rarely for cheap kitchen knives. The ceramic stone is much better and with practice you can get a consistent angle.
@@MB_EDC yes the v shaped ones, maybe the rolling sharpeners too, got no eyperience in using them. ...and yeah i agree the ceramic rod is definitely usefull👍 I like the technique u Show us, never seen it like this. I never learned hand sharpening, im a cave man in that regard 😂 But what i like to use is the Worksharp precision adjust system. Even i can Manage to get a near mirror polished edge on my knifes. Can definitely recommend this System👍
I have a Chinese knock-off off the Lansky sharpening system. Which is OK - But a bit of a faff to set up. For the light sharpening I have to do mainly the Victorinox works well.
Really good question! Given the price point and size of the Worksharp field sharpener. I think that the Victorinox is closer to the Worksharp pocket and micro sharpeners. Probably coming somewhere in between. Unfortunately I have not tried any of these. It does compare favourably to the Falkniven DC3 which I have. Check out my video Ultimate SHARPENING Showdown: VICTORINOX vs. FALLKNIVEN DC3 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lCuTnaaCTd0.html
@MB_EDC First time on your channel. Enjoyed your video and found it informative. As a suggestion - if you are making instructional videos it is best that you do not make reference to yourself as an "idiot" (especially repeatedly as you did in your video and comments section). People want to learn from a confident instructor - not one that is self-deprecating. Looking forward to exploring your other content. Happy Trails! 🇺🇸 🏕 🌲
@paulamcclure3402 Thank you...I do try to be competent, but also want to be clear that I am learning as I go... Look back at my first video on this a year ago and hopefully I have improved a lot in my technique....
@@MB_EDC 58-60 hrc isn't anything special. It's also not great a retaining an edge because it is soft, on the flip side it's quick to sharpen. There's a reason why 440c is found on cheap knives
@@MB_EDC These days 440C is a budget steel. It is one of the better budget steels. Its easy to sharpen and it holds an edge fairly well. And it balances hardness and toughness pretty well. But as much as I think it, like VG10, is a good solid steel that can handle most people's cutting needs, the days of it being considered a super-steel are long gone. Things like Elmax, Vanax, s90v/s120v, M390, ZDP189, Maxamet, and Rex121 have replaced it in the wowsers steel category. There is nothing wrong with that. Metallurgists have simply come up with harder, more wear resistant, and tougher steels since 440c considered a super-steel in the mid-20th century. As for the bit about it not being easy to sharpen with the Victorinox sharpener... It is all about perspective. What are you comparing 440C to? If your comparison is something like 420J2/3cr13mov/x30cr13 then 440c will definitely take longer because its 58-60HRC is a lot harder than their 52-54HRC. The same is true of the 1.4110 steel used in most Victorinox pocket knives that comes in with a HRC of around 56. If you're comparing it to one of the current crop of super-steels I mentioned or even budget steels like D2, which all have HRCs above 60 (in some cases well above 60 HRC) and which are formulated to be very wear resistant not so much.
@@MB_EDC I have successfully used it for steel with 60-61 hrc. But obviously, it takes more time ) Not as long as it might seem. Anyway it's pretty good pocket solution
Work sharp has a angle edc sharpener that’s great as well..I sharpen by hand and use mostly Norton bench stones but I’ve been doing it for 40 years so ..but an angle sharpener is great until you have muscle memory..subbed , great vid brother!
@@TBEDC Thanks brother. I'll check out your channel. I am still a beginner at sharpening - starting late in life. I tend to strop mostly now, especially if there knife is just dull and not damaged.
@TBEDC My first video of this sharpener was literally my first try at sharpening. It has been really popular. Mainly, I think, because people were telling me I was doing it wrong. I have learnt a lot over the last year though. Check it out of you want a laugh!!!
