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Idler wheel problem (solved) 

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W801 Magnavox Micromatic record player inside of a Magnavox Astro Sonic. For whatever reason the idler wheel won't stay in contact with the pulley. This is also the case when the turntable is in position. According to the manual, its the "Idler Arm Assembly" that's not keeping the wheel against the pulley. Am I missing a spring? Looking at the manual it doesn't appear that I am... Do I need to replace the idler wheel because its too worn? Any ideas?

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@nuttyprofessor
@nuttyprofessor 8 лет назад
Another helpful tip: once you resurface the outer edge of the idler wheel, treat the entire idler wheel with Rawn rubber cleaner and rejuvenator. After applying it with a qtip let it soak and penetrate the idler wheel for 15 minutes. This solvent works great on hard and stiff idler wheels! I swear by this product.
@jeffmoore7508
@jeffmoore7508 6 лет назад
I had this exact same problem. I found that a spring under the idler wheel that creates the tension required for the wheel to engage and remain against the motor pulley was a bit loose. I replaced the spring to create more tension and problem solved.
@yaboidustin2447
@yaboidustin2447 3 года назад
Where did you get the spring though?
@SlappyJack
@SlappyJack 3 года назад
I'll ask again, PLEASE tell us where you got the replacement apring
@beefomac
@beefomac Год назад
Yes. Where did you get the spring?
@curtis8880
@curtis8880 4 месяца назад
Probably not going to help you guys because it has been a while but harbor freight has a box of assorted springs that probably will have the correct one
@marty-fh1rw
@marty-fh1rw Год назад
I sent an idler wheel for an (then) unknown brand turntable to Russell Industries in NY for rebuilding.They are nice people.A RU-vid man kindly put me onto them.
@Earcandy73
@Earcandy73 8 лет назад
The platter actually does provide the pressure and guidance for the idler to contact the motor pulley. The idler itself is dried out. You can try sanding it lightly with sandpaper, or have the idler wheel redone.
@systems55
@systems55 5 лет назад
That's what I was going to say ......///:-)
@xaenon
@xaenon 3 года назад
Yes, the platter rim and the motor's torque do help with maintaining tension, but you need the spring to pull the wheel in FIRST.
@jayfon1234
@jayfon1234 8 лет назад
thanks Robert. I actually got it working! I came across another Magnavox at a different thriftshop and $8 walked out with a second stereo! I was able to part it out and get everything working! it ended up being the tension springs on the idler wheel!
@Raukonaug
@Raukonaug 8 лет назад
I am having the same problem with my Magnavox. Think you can shed a bit more detail in what you did? Thanks
@rickhelbig630
@rickhelbig630 7 лет назад
Mine has a long spring that pulls the wheel to the motor, if you look from the top there is a hole that the spring goes between the two motor screws and the other end goes to the idler wheel right below the wheel if you take the c clip off and wheel you'll see where it goes.it will go right toward the motor, I should know because I have BSR turntable on a Realistic Clarinette 112.
@larryshaver3568
@larryshaver3568 7 лет назад
what was the exact problem? I'm still trying to figure out why my 1971 changer doesn't function right all the time
@rickhelbig630
@rickhelbig630 7 лет назад
The best way is that I have a visual picture.
@larryshaver3568
@larryshaver3568 5 лет назад
@GodAce hardware sells several sizes of springs that are just right for that use
@GracielaBuenavida-dn1kz
@GracielaBuenavida-dn1kz 4 месяца назад
Lo que pasa,necesita limpieza lubricacion completa.
@joemartin6439
@joemartin6439 3 года назад
Most likely the item that moves the idler wheel needs all the old grease cleaned out. Once it is cleaned and a little 3 in1 oil al with work again
@jatontherun
@jatontherun 5 месяцев назад
I have a Zenith console of which the original turntable was removed and replaced with a BSR. In my case the platter spins but it is noisy in that it makes a grinding noise. Once the records play the music hides the grinding. I did the cleaning of all the linkages and areas of contact but I can’t determine where the noise is happening. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks
@mannyandpistonbrothers1638
@mannyandpistonbrothers1638 2 года назад
Omgosh I literally have this same exact issue!! I have same console too :-) I just started your video and can’t wait to see how to fix it!!! Yay!
@steveleggett344
@steveleggett344 2 года назад
I have a BSR table similar to yours but I have a spring on mine where you do not. In the picture of yours when you are measuring , you see a hole between the motor spindle and the stud with the E clip on it. On mine ,the spring attaches under the wheel and comes out under it to the hole. Maybe this could help. I hope this will be of some help to you.
@djray369
@djray369 2 месяца назад
I finally got my idler wheel to spin, however it doesn’t spin the platter. Am I missing a step putting the platter back on?
@larryshaver3568
@larryshaver3568 11 месяцев назад
i recently bought a changer very similar to that one but a light tan color
@robertknight4672
@robertknight4672 8 лет назад
These record players sound great once there in working order.
@rickhelbig630
@rickhelbig630 7 лет назад
I see your problem, if you look down at the idler wheel and the motor, you'll see two screws and between the two screws you'll see a hole and that is for your spring to your idler wheel.
@CBStudiozz
@CBStudiozz 6 лет назад
Maurice Helbig where can I get the spring?
@larryshaver3568
@larryshaver3568 6 лет назад
Either ace or true value sells springs if there is a tractor supply in your area they may even have a spring
@birdsley1962
@birdsley1962 6 лет назад
I see where the spring hooks between the two screwheads but dont see under the idler wheel
@larryshaver3568
@larryshaver3568 6 лет назад
there is a white plastic part that the idler assembly moves against, the spring i think you need to be concerned with is hard to see unless the changer is removed from the cabinet
@TheRocket995
@TheRocket995 6 лет назад
I have the exact same problem on the exact same model otherwose it works great. Where can i get the apring and other parts for this?
@larryshaver3568
@larryshaver3568 10 месяцев назад
i was wrong the spring on mine was mounted differently which may be the reason for your problem as well
@larryshaver3568
@larryshaver3568 4 месяца назад
i found a longer spring that pulls the idler wheel up solved my problem
@mannyandpistonbrothers1638
@mannyandpistonbrothers1638 2 года назад
Wow! Same issue. SO, nice people have been telling me that underneath the spring I need a new one and I need to super lube and clean! I went underneath and with my arm I moved the metal that is supposed to push for different settings the round disc with rubber- if you touch while underneath you can see what needs to be lubed:-) and apparently it’s that spring that needs to be changed ( for me at least)… it looks normal to me?
@Earcandy73
@Earcandy73 8 лет назад
The voiceofmusic.com will refurbish your idler wheel. You can also try cleaning the edge of the idler wheel with a paper towel soaked in rubbing alcohol.
@larryshaver3568
@larryshaver3568 3 года назад
i just cleaned an idler with pinch roller cleaner and the edge is soft again
@larryshaver3568
@larryshaver3568 11 месяцев назад
did you figure out why it wouldn'y come all the way over to the motor? i bought a similar turntable recently but what i found was NOT at all what i expected
@larryshaver3568
@larryshaver3568 7 лет назад
I've been having a similar problem except my motor doesn't seem to get turned on
@junpantilano1
@junpantilano1 Год назад
You are definitely missing a spring to pull the wheel lever towards the motor.
@danielgulotta2252
@danielgulotta2252 6 лет назад
I have this problem. Where can I get a new spring?
@xaenon
@xaenon 3 года назад
There's nothing special about it. Hardware stores carry a variety of springs.
@Fallen7768
@Fallen7768 Год назад
I have this same issue but im not sure if im missing a spring or if theres a tension issue by the comment's xD
@birdsley1962
@birdsley1962 6 лет назад
Im still trying to find a place to buy parts ! Any suggestions?
@yaboidustin2447
@yaboidustin2447 3 года назад
Voice of music is a good place
@mannyandpistonbrothers1638
@mannyandpistonbrothers1638 2 года назад
Lol! Your post is 5 years ago… well disregard my words of new found wisdom- lol :-)
@larryshaver3568
@larryshaver3568 11 месяцев назад
i see there is a spring missing
@myplaylistize
@myplaylistize 2 года назад
Your missing a spring that goes from the idler wheel to the small hole that's across from the idler wheel just make sure you adjust the tension in the spring not loose not to tight.
@rareform6747
@rareform6747 3 года назад
Same problem ?
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