IDW Sonic The Hedgehog #23 | A Comic Review by Megabeatman 

WAYYY more feelings that Forces sonic

I thought the same thing, but it is quite a welcome sight, shows that he is not untouchable.

@@cyberprime9355 Agree. What's the plan now for Sonic and friends since the data he was going collect got destroyed now? Really wanna see this next issue so bad now! IDW is getting good with the suspension.😌

Yeah also you spelled sonic worng.

@@splatteaverse I won't spoil anything, but the solicitations say that more and more is going to be lost, culminating in some sort of serious fight. Issues 26 and 25 allude to this in their solicitations. Also, I agree wholeheartedly that IDW is handling this comic very well, and is selling real well;Even with the comic exclusive characters. Provided, there are no delays to come.

@@Deadchannel22276 Oh lol! XD I meant Sonic, auto correction here. XD Thx for the help!

That's been done enough already.

@Casswury Retconning something can sometimes be seen as a copout.

Which is exactly why the Kyodai Eggman Robo at the end of Sonic 3 & knuckles only ever exposes his energy source Aka the Master emerald when it was used to power up its strongest attack and even than only after Sonic and Tails already disabled the Arms..Oh wait somethings seams off here.

Probably a mix of both

This dialogue is 10× better👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

@@silver360im Thanks. ^u^

That was awesome

@@ethanxpsp2770 Thanks. ^u^

@@mysteriousgirl9211 It's good, but too long. Have Eggman get specific about Metal quicker and then have Sonic put it together.

He’s been like this. His pride gets in the way

If anything, Eggman serves as an example of how not to be supervillain, or taking a situation too lightly. He did both, which makes it all the more cathartic when he cowered and panicked when he was knocked to the ground, courtesy of Sonic.

@@johnoghomi1080 Than how do you explain his 205465161 back up plans he use to have in the older games be it something as simple as having multibel bases located at harder to reach places like the Sky or Space to more complex staff like having an escape pot that also holds the Death Egg Robots as an emergency for the emergency precaution at the tail end of Sonic 3&Knuckles to having entire back ups for his bigger plan overall like in Adventure were he had Chaos, the back (Egg Carrier) the back up for the Back up (Nuke) than the back up for the back of the back up (Egg Walker) and than even the Back up for the back up of the back up of the back up (the Egg Carrier 2) Heck this place just a few days after Forces a story in which Eggman build something into his own minded servant infinite to force him to obey seen when he forces him to retreat after his final lost against Sonic and the Avatar while he wanted to fight on.

@@rynobehnke8289 indeed, Eggman seemed a bit dumb here for some reason. I have to wonder if this is a fake. The new upstart can't be allowed to overtake the old master.

MysteriousGirl 92 I feel eggman was at at desperate measures at this point

He never did

Yeah same always in any cliff-hanger moments.

Yeah, someone reviewed the next issue, and No, Sonic does not become a zombot, but someone else becomes one... And no, I won't say who.

Ok i hope so because Sonic need to rest after trying stopping that Zombot virus from spreading his body.

@@Twilight17Petkoton Too bad he can't rest, or he'll be 𝚒𝚗𝚏𝚎𝚌𝚝𝚎𝚍

I'm betting that Sonic will become a zombie. I read the synopsis of issue 27 and one of the things that it said is, "But where's Sonic?" Plus on the cover of issue 28, Sonic isn't there. Coincidence? I think not!

@Lut Haqimi Right

Maybe the warp Topaz is the way to bring Mephiles back to the Series

@@alexandrecarneirocabral8807 Mephilies doesn't exist anymore.

@Casswury *SCREW THE MANDATES*

I doubt that will be the case. They have made too much progress to copout like that.

I don't know. Eggman seems dumber than usual here. He certainly wasn't the kind of guy to wing it or have some backup plan.

@@andresmarrero8666 I know Eggman acted dumb. If it wasn't for Starline being there, he would have been a Zombot by now when Sonic made him drop down in the Zombot horde.

@@silverzyco4034 which seems out of character to me, it could just be me though but Eggman never struck me as that dumb or winging it.

@@andresmarrero8666 given how the comics are following the game canon (while still being its own continuity), that's how they depict Eggman. Ruthless, but not thinking ahead.

@@silverzyco4034 can't say I agree with that depiction.

I would not be surprised if they were, they have help them through time and time again

@@FrostTheHobidon Its been as helpful as much as it has been a curse. However, the stakes are getting to point where they are actually needed. Sonic almost gave in to the virus, Eggman and Starline lost a potential frequency that could control the Zombots(And Eggman narrowly evaded turning as a result). And on top of that, the heroes are spread so thin that the slightest misstep lays waste to their operations.

Yes. I feel that too, I bet if Sonic gets the Chaos Emeralds soon then everyone will be cured or something like that.

@@splatteaverse Speed would do the virus in for him, but how he saves everyone else and destroys the metal virus is different altogether. Considering it is latched onto those that don't have such luxury with speed.

@@cyberprime9355 Exactly right. I honestly thought Sonic would at least finish up the data from Tails but instead saw Eggman. But I really hope Sonic will obtain the Chaos Emeralds soon.

1. simultaneous 2. possibly on December 25, Christmas

Yes

TFP was my jam! Soundwave and Wheeljack were my favorites!

Eduardo Hernandez Soundwave was a badass

What do you mean

@@knuxuki1013 Sorry, wrong video. I don't know why my comment got posted here instead.

@@slateoffate9812 What video did you intend on clicking

@@knuxuki1013 It was a video I was watching about the themes of Acceleracers.

@@slateoffate9812 well I guess they're both way past fast 😂

Perhaps it served as a compassionate side, a side that was essentially pushed down, only to surface after forces. Yet, I think when Eggman was reflecting on his time as Mr. Tinker, he actually felt nostalgic or it is simply bubbling back to the surface, only to be pushed down again.

I mean technically did Silver already make major change by saving Sonic From zombot-ification by the hands of Shadow and Co in his original timeline would with sonic already been gone there be no hope to make a cure because Tails builds his entire Cure Idea on Sonic natural ability to fight the virus off.

@@rynobehnke8289 true but id imagine hes still got a little more of a role to play in saving the future, if he was to return immediately (what even is his method of time travel anyway?) I don't think he'd be returning to the ideal future quite so easily

@@Blurro Yes one of the problems that was carried over from Forces and the Rivals series is that there is no explanation how Silver travels through time. Also I don't thing Silver will ever go home to the ideal future simply because he is to popular and a good future would equal him not being able to still be a part of the story.

Seriously, Sonic?

Exactly my problem with Eggman in this series so far. Its a far cry from the master manipulator and fail-save keeping master mind that he was since 1991 all the way to at least 2008.

Ding ding ding, you hit it right on the money. Sonic can't "lose for long" so this can't go on much longer

If Sonic turn completely into a Zombot it would be over

@Super Great716 If Sonic becomes a Fully Zombot, that means the Heroes loses completely and it would be the end of the Comic since no heroes will fight back.

Super Great716 he kinda does

so you want "hero is immune because hero" cliche

@@Blurro I guess...? (P.S. I still the same person who typed this message. I have lost control to my account due to the phone number being wrong, So I have made a new channel)

Something tells me it will go up to the late 20s.

The metal virus arc must be finished around the 28 or 32 issue

Archie's Unleashed adaption was the whole reboot series long

That's a good point but I don't think IDW is ready for a really drawn out arc yet.

Until issue 30

I looked it up, it’s a name of a piece if BGM from Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake.

Thank you for the laugh I needed it 😂

Infinite is not coming back anymore, because Sonic and his friends killed him at the end of Sonic Forces.

@@kunlesanders i don't think he's dead DEAD. The Phantom Ruby having some wierd ass properties could've pulled him into another dimension like in Sonic Mania or fused with him

Its the two 🌎 s thing

@@newdawnhorizon9879 So the city stated to be the capital of the UN is supposed to be on another planet?

@@devanarcher7054 yes according to Sega

@@newdawnhorizon9879 as if Green Hill and Angel Island in the Adventure games wasn't proof of one planet

@@devanarcher7054 I'm just going by what Sega said

35 seconds late pal

What do you mean my comment is the only one with 15 minutes I’m early

Green Bean Earlier your comment was posted 32 seconds ago. The first comment was *35* seconds ago

i literally never saw that comment so watever?

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@joey13133 After reading this issue, I imagined an alternate scene where Sonic questions Eggman on his return to villainy. (You can leave a comment after reading it.) It goes something like this: Sonic: ...but you chose to go back to your old ways. What was wrong with being like Mr Tinker? Eggman: That's not who I am. Sonic: Not BE him. Be LIKE him. Eggman: There was one time when I was just like him. Sonic: So what happened? Why did you choose to return to villainy and make the villagers, who took you in and gave you a place to stay, suffer the consequences of their kind, selfless actions? Eggman: Wait... something happened to me when I was like that goody-two-shoes. Sonic: Yeah, I know. Beakface here seared those old memories into your brain. Eggman: No, not that. Something else. I remember doing some simple things. Whether it was taking care of plants or fixing robots, I don't know. But then, a stranger came my way. I didn't know who or what he was, but he looked severely damaged. Sonic: Hmm? Eggman: I took pity on him and sought to fix him up right away, but then... something inside me broke free from its chains. My memories of that robot had returned, and then BAM! I was Dr Eggman once again. Sonic: Severely damaged robot...? (realises) Severely... damaged... robot... (flashbacks of Metal Sonic appear) No! It can't be...! Starline: Metal Sonic made his way to us and then the Doctor was back to his old self. (notices Sonic shivering violently) Sonic? Is something wrong? Sonic:...What have I done? Eggman: I'm afraid you're going to have to speak up. Sonic: What have I DONE?! (echoes) Eggman: You smashed up my robot and he came to me. Sonic: He was destroyed! Starline: What? That's impossible! How could Metal Sonic have made his way to us if he had been destroyed? (upon realisation) He had been repaired, hadn't he? (in shock) Did YOU do this? Eggman: No. Sonic doesn't know how to fix machines, but his two-tailed friend does. Why would HE repair Metal Sonic? He wouldn't have done so without a second thought. Unless... Eggman: (stares at Sonic in bewilderment, then smiles evilly) Oh hohoho, you are such a naughty boy. Sonic: It wasn't supposed to happen like this. I only wanted to give him a chance to live his life however he pleases. I didn't even try to stop him when he escaped because... I wanted to respect his choice! Eggman: Well, well, well. Looks like you and I aren't so different after all. Sonic: I NEVER wanted to infect ANYONE with the Metal Virus! Eggman: True, but YOU chose to have Metal Sonic repaired despite how much of a threat he was. You chose to let him escape, he came back to me and here I am. Back in the game. Eggman: I have YOU to thank, Sonic the Hedgehog. Who would have thought that a hero's act of kindness would bring forth the downfall and destruction of the citizens of your precious world, soon to become my glorious empire? Sonic charges at Eggman with fury. Sonic: *furious scream of agony* Eggman: HAHAHA! One last battle before you're my zombot slave?

I mean Character develorpment for main stays is pretty much outlawed since 06. Beside that does Lost worlds setup not even make any sense to begin with (Sonic and Tails running away from a few sonic 1 badniks and the so called Deadly Six alone makes no sense, and the whole framing of Sonic being to impatient and doesn't thing far enough ahead also makes no sense given that Tails was always the more naive one just thing back to SA2 when Eggman had Sonic at Gun point, Sonic and Tails non-verbale agreed on a plan to deceive Eggman only for Eggman to pull the rug under them and tricking Tails intro revealing that Sonic has a fake chaos emeralds which was a naive mistake that Sonic imminently realized shown by him screaming tails to him revealing this information to Eggman. so really the story at its core just falls apart) And the Same can really be said about this story from Sonic and Tails conveniently forgetting to remove the OBEY EGGMAN part out of Metal Sonic's program making this a disaster waiting to happen over not going after Eggman's face-ship in the Tornado as soon as the problem escalates to many many more problems like the complete absents of Wispowns despite the fact that cube would almost trivialize the problem of the zombot virus or that no ones even thing about putting on a bio-hazard suit or the like to prevent infection (And yes I know that the ruling if Zombots can infect non organic objects is as inconsistent as it gets but no ones even tried it or hell just go with an Ironman suit we know for a fact that metal is save)

@@rynobehnke8289 "like the complete absents of Wispowns despite the fact that cube would almost trivialize the problem of the zombot virus or that no ones even thing about putting on a bio-hazard suit or the like to prevent infection" the part i find really funny in all this is that this entire plot only happens because the main characters don't wear clothing. and i'll be fair to lost world in that it tried to give him some kind of character flaw to develop from instead of in rush or something where he's perfect in every way there is.

@@alimowla3204 Well except when there do (remembers alternative costumes in SA2 and Rivals) and not to mention that the ladies have no excuse. While I see your point that Lost worlds at least tried to have character development do I still simply prefer an overly good character over giving him flaws he never had and contradict what we see before. I to a smaller extend had the same issue in Sonic SatAm were Sonic would change from a cautions, smart and serious character to a total goof ball between seasons 1 and 2 to artificially make Sally a more important character.

@@rynobehnke8289 ah, so you're saying this plot could've been avoided if sonic decided to do his phantasy star humar cosplay, got it. what if that's the main point of character development after this story? everyone just start wearing protective jumpsuits when on a mission from the now on and the idw continuity will be known as the "sonic jumpsuit-verse". that's fair and the SatAm point you brought up makes sense, i myself don't know how i'd react if a story gives a character a flaw they didn't have before, but it ended up being a really good story, though i think i would be okay with it so long as it would be explained, again, not sure. that aside, how about that sonic hacking contest? *shows sans head on rouges body......* i mean before the expo entries, i personally really liked that shadow the hedghog two player mod.