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An overpowered Surge makes one last attempt to deal with Sonic once and for all. #SonicTheHedgehog #IDWPublishing #Issue56
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00:00 - Titles & Intro
01:12 - Summary
04:44 - General Thoughts
13:26 - Credits, Stinger, & End Cards

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@richieosborn2639
@richieosborn2639 Год назад
Of course Surge and Kit did make it out of the collapsing lair, because on their last panel, there’s a hole on the top. So they got out that way and have disappeared to unknown places.
@Geomaster97
@Geomaster97 Год назад
2:49 *This panel RIGHT HERE* You can see the pain in her eyes Surge actually believes she'll never truly be Free no matter how much she wants it
@averymerrick
@averymerrick Год назад
After Sonic, Tails, Metal Sonic, and Eggman have managed to escape the Collapsing Lair, Eggman tries to skedaddle, only to be met with one hell of a Death Glare from Sonic, complete with a detailed Extreme Close-Up. Eggman meekly asks for the truce to continue for a little longer, to which Sonic, clearly fed-up, agrees, conceding that he has to bring the wisps back to Whisper. *Shows that despite Sonic's own morals, you wouldn't want to mess with him when he's truly angry.*
@Geomaster97
@Geomaster97 Год назад
AVERY!! Dude! I didn't expect to see u here!
@averymerrick
@averymerrick Год назад
@@Geomaster97 Hey 👋.
@ShermanYeo
@ShermanYeo Год назад
Think of him as Spider-Man but with super speed.
@TerravancerYoh
@TerravancerYoh Год назад
Oh hey, I was the one that wrote that part on the IDW Sonic TVTropes page lol
@BrakSplash
@BrakSplash Год назад
That's a good point. I like to think Sonic didn't want to go back on his word, and he was phenomenally exhausted. But the plot hole is, Sonic has five wisps that can empower him to easily defeat Eggman and Metal Sonic. So.... we'll just say he didn't want to go back on his word 😅
@gunnerbooth3065
@gunnerbooth3065 Год назад
The wisps couldn’t help because they were drained from the dynamocage and also surge and kit will most likely return but I really hope that it’s shadow that helps them since they are both made from a lab and had memories changed but like you said they kit and surge weren’t cared for but shadow was thanks to Maria.
@hydrocityshark
@hydrocityshark Год назад
I feel like the longer Sonic is reminded of his morals, the sooner he will SNAP…
@justynhill4814
@justynhill4814 Год назад
Hopefully his crew bring him back.
@hydrocityshark
@hydrocityshark Год назад
@@justynhill4814 And a compromise could be made.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
Literally all of Sonic's Villains: 🎵Nah, nah, nana, nah! You can't kill us!🎵
@justynhill4814
@justynhill4814 Год назад
@@videogollumer- Sonic: nope but I can spin dash at you to break different sets of bones.
@hydrocityshark
@hydrocityshark Год назад
@@videogollumer Sonic: Ah good, that’s not a priority anyway. 😏
@nemohegdehog8944
@nemohegdehog8944 Год назад
It was a fitting conclusion honestly. I couldn’t see Surge and Kit having any way out that didn’t feel off. 1. Surrender and team up? That would be anticlimactic after the past few years with them 2. Get captured by Eggman? That would be devastatingly sad considering what’s happened so far. 3. Escape and find a life somewhere else or plot revenge? Best option. I only wonder if we could’ve seen Sonic lose his cool for a bit and try to “delete” Eggman at the moment and either have Tails stop him, or remember Mr. Tinker and maybe Belle’s wishes. I know Sega won’t let him go super bad or anything but who knows?
@kntranced719
@kntranced719 Год назад
The ladder option of Sonic lashing out at Eggman would have been awesome to see, considering Sonic has been questioning his decisions to let bad guys go constantly and how it's catching up with him. I get Sonic was beat up but it was just stupid that he let Eggman escape like that again. Metal was just as damaged so he could probably take him still and Tails could have easily apprehended Eggman.
@justynhill4814
@justynhill4814 Год назад
@@kntranced719- everyone one was beat up. Their going to rest up and Sonic going back to the that new egg base. Plus it looked like Sonic wanted to pull a Shadow but stopped himself from doing so and just get out.
@kntranced719
@kntranced719 Год назад
@@justynhill4814 Tails wasn't in the main action most of the time, he was mostly seen trying to dodge and deflect Kit's attacks while trying to calm him down. He took a blow to the head when they were trying to escape but that was the only big hit he sustained and it's not like he was knocked unconscious from it, unlike Movie Tails who got grazed by explosives and passed out. Also Shadow in the Idw comics is notorious for being terribly written, Sonic knows he won't kill Eggman but AT LEAST hold him hostage for a time!
@justynhill4814
@justynhill4814 Год назад
@@kntranced719- I like to disagree and say they got Shadow’s character right. Any way Sonic was being pushed to the edge and he looked like he wanted to do something bad but stopped himself. He’s going take the fight to him again but he needed to cool his head.
@BrakSplash
@BrakSplash Год назад
I can't see them finding a better life. Surge was willingly looking for people to hurt the entire time, and enjoyed it.
@dragoncross42
@dragoncross42 Год назад
I really enjoyed the characters of Surge and Kit and really hope to see them appear in future story arcs as criminals that have a better hold on their minds and cause their own style of chaos for themselves and not because it has to do with Sonic or Eggman. I can't wait for the next Sonic arc to begin.
@johnremizeztomilloso158
@johnremizeztomilloso158 Год назад
But this time Surge and Kit meets team dark or just Shadow for the first time kinda like there expecting team sonic or just Sonic and Tails to appear again in chase scene?!
@mor1461
@mor1461 Год назад
Honestly, I'm kind of hoping we find out more about their pasts
@johnremizeztomilloso158
@johnremizeztomilloso158 Год назад
@@mor1461 same!
@BrakSplash
@BrakSplash Год назад
Ya know, I want that too. Let them just be bad guys in the end. They had a rough life, but now they're choosing to be bad, and fully embrace their badness!
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
Have surge team up with shadow to kill sonic. He won't stand a chance.
@megacrashthehedgehog5377
@megacrashthehedgehog5377 Год назад
Surge and Kits' "final" appearance reminds me a lot of Archie Sonic #200. The villains are defeated, with one of them being left a broken and mentally unstable mess, and the other scolding the heroes for their actions, and then retreating into hiding, leaving the heroes to deal with a new mess.
@BrakSplash
@BrakSplash Год назад
Yeah, the issue was both times it didn't make sense to blame the good guys for stopping the bad guys. But you make a good point!
@leon4000
@leon4000 Год назад
@@BrakSplash Snively was a punk and Eggman in that continuity was still obsessed with beating Sonic that he set himself up for a mental breakdown. When people blame you for something that they inevitably caused, that's them trying to gaslight you when they never wanted to learn from their mistakes in more than one way.
@j2minerblacksands881
@j2minerblacksands881 Год назад
Yes this issue feels a little bit rushed, my feelings is that they wanted to wrap up any dangling story threads. IDW isn't doing so well financially so I wonder if there trying to have there comics become more self contained in the event of they have to cancel or go bankrupt.
@BrakSplash
@BrakSplash Год назад
Maybe. But Flynn mentioned they had these comics planned a long time ago. I like to think Stanely just wanted to conclude this story quickly and move on to new plot threads. None of her previous story arcs ended with characters taking a breather. It just ended, and a new one started up.
@j2minerblacksands881
@j2minerblacksands881 Год назад
@@BrakSplash Yah, Oh dang I forgot about Clutch! We never got a proper arc for him, and with Ruff & Tumble I imagen that it will be a rather goofier outcome.
@BrakSplash
@BrakSplash Год назад
@J2miner Blacksands oh yeah, there's that too. I'm hoping we get a few new characters down the line.
@dragonborn7955
@dragonborn7955 Год назад
@@BrakSplash nothing is ever truly "planned". Ian originally planned for Surge and Kit to debut along side Starline and that didn't happen. Because Sega.
@BrakSplash
@BrakSplash Год назад
@@dragonborn7955 True true
@Samgreen90
@Samgreen90 Год назад
(At 4:20) Or maybe the wisps are so tired from Surge, they can't help.
@Benicthehedgehog
@Benicthehedgehog Год назад
I feel like if Surge & Kit were to keep being villains, they are better off being ones for Shadow or Knuckles. More so for Shadow, since the similar connection they have & if Surge & Kit truly believe they will never be free so long as Sonic & Tails are around, the best one to put them down to save them from their suffering would be Shadow.
@BrakSplash
@BrakSplash Год назад
I could see Shadow not really care about them. "Oh, you were kidnapped, experimented on, and now you're trying to kill everyone? Grow up!"
@leon4000
@leon4000 Год назад
@spaceout6586 I liked Archies Shadow because he is both sympathetic and can be empathetic so long as you don't push his buttons. I enjoyed his inclusion to Gamma's story with Omega.
@dragonborn7955
@dragonborn7955 Год назад
Ian did say he wants Surge and Kit to be recurring villains.
@cyberwolf5896
@cyberwolf5896 Год назад
I think the point Kit was trying to make is that Sonic is trying to use Surge and Kit as a way to prove his methodology of rehabilitating his enemies, proving that he is right after all the mishaps he had in this series
@ninjanate5018
@ninjanate5018 Год назад
By mishaps, you mean letting Metal Sonic go and ONLY that?
@implosive4778
@implosive4778 Год назад
@@ninjanate5018 only? Yeah ok bro💀💀💀
@leon4000
@leon4000 Год назад
Kit is only right in his own mind. Although Sonic trying to prove he can help people with his methodologies isn't wrong either. But keep in mind that Kit is traumatized, and his care of Surge is keeping him together. He chose to think that Sonic lied to him, when Sonic was being honest at the time since he did see Surge fall. Kit barely interacted with the people he and Surge was supposed to replace and mimic. Those facts means that Kit is quick to judge based on how he and Surge was treated. Quick to turn the moment he's been wronged, a child tired of being hurt. Sonic is genuinely a good person, and we both know he doesn't mess with people like that. Sonic didn't even want to fight Surge; he was trying to talk her down when he could. I don't take traumatized souls' words' that heavily knowing that they suffered, but they selfishly chose to aim their anger towards those who didn't even know their suffering until much later.
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 Год назад
I would be careful calling someone who is emotionally unstable "selfish". I am not condoning their actions (so don't bloody start) but from his pov, you can't really blame him for turning Sonic down. He just wants to protect Surge.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
@@leon4000 Sonic has LITERALLY been more selfish than all of his friends COMBINED. He cares more about the fweedom of unrepentant **stards like Eggman and Metal Sonic than he does the safety of the defenseless people of the planet. He didn't just not KNOW what happened to Surge, he didn't CARE either. If anything, the late find out was just the gut-punch/wake-up-slap/haymaker combo he need to realize how much of a creepy jerk he's been!
@devengauna2003
@devengauna2003 Год назад
Oh my God poor eggman not only did he not get his dynamo cage back but a bunch of heroes(UP TO 11)are gonna come and destroy his Eggperial city
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
Better him than the rest of the world.
@peytonsmith1836
@peytonsmith1836 Год назад
Surge going sicko mode 😂
@warthogpower7729
@warthogpower7729 Год назад
I guess no Sonic Heroes theme with Whisper Tangle unless London can magically fly
@JW-mk9me
@JW-mk9me Год назад
I feel like this is leading to sonic growing out of that sparing Villans thing and learning that not everyone will change
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
Well, he's going to take the fight to Eggman at Eggperial City next issue; so, hopefully you're right.
@robotx9285
@robotx9285 Год назад
Kinda crazy how long it's taking sonic to Breakout of that mindset, since I'm pretty sure eggman has killed thousands of people during his mad plans. Like how he exploited Chaos in Adventure 1, which eventually lead to station square being destroyed by Perfect Chaos. Building mass produced Death Egg robots in Forces that leveled countless cities. Building Shadow clones which eventually killed Wispers old team. Exploit a time eating entity which for a time erased history.... Like seriously eggman should either be executed or imprisoned for life, he has preforms countless crimes against humanity and Morbiens.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
@@robotx9285 And that's the tip of the iceberg compared to the War and the Metal Virus.
@robotx9285
@robotx9285 Год назад
@@videogollumer Ya your right, I didn't even mention how Eggman had already messed with time TWO times before, with those incidents being CD & Mainia, crap. If Prime, the games and IDW comics are all cannon to each other, then eggman had pulled this crap 4 times in a row.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
@@robotx9285 Well, Prime is a good deal on Sonic; so... 3.5?
@FrostTheHobidon
@FrostTheHobidon Год назад
Starline is a Messed up person, ruining two innocent people's live and turn them into villains to please Eggman and make things difficult for Sonic.
@BrakSplash
@BrakSplash Год назад
To be fair, Sonic and Tails are giving Surge and Kit plenty of chances. Surge refuses to stop hurting others, and Kit is too messed up in the head when he's close to Surge. If she wasn't around, I could see him get better.
@justynhill4814
@justynhill4814 Год назад
@@BrakSplash- it’s what Surge said in her speech is the problem. She literally can’t stop herself from hating Sonic it’s because of Starline conditioning it’s etched in her very existence that she has to kill Sonic to replace him and that hurts her so much. Kit is conditioned to follow and help Surge no matter if she hurts others or even herself. They can’t stop and and feels like Surge truly hate that.
@BrakSplash
@BrakSplash Год назад
@Justyn Hill true. I meant that, even if Surge kills Sonic, she wouldn't stop being a bad guy. She would still gleefully hurt others. She's just mad Sonic is ingrained in her memory. Like the tune of a song you can't forget. Or the taste of a delicious snack that hovers in your taste buds hours later
@warthogpower7729
@warthogpower7729 Год назад
just let people know this Dumbo follows ped_>0 artists who make lewe_>d art of under minor characters like cream and sonic and othe children
@leon4000
@leon4000 Год назад
@@BrakSplash She can't control what Dr. Starline did to her, but she can at least control herself, learn how to anyway. Sonic didn't even know what happened to these two. That's part of the reason he's so angry at Dr. Eggman and if he was alive Dr. Starline, because those two constantly endangers people trying to take him out and everybody for conquest. She lets a forceful memory get in the way of taking back her life, so now she'll spend it choosing to get rid of Sonic for a selfish reason. I know characters like her that broke their cycle that she's facing right now.
@thegamingembassy1543
@thegamingembassy1543 Год назад
Was waiting for this. Favorite series.
@BlackFlash09
@BlackFlash09 Год назад
I would question why the Wisps didn't help Sonic and Tails escape. But then, they were just freed from the Dynamo Cage. And they might be drained of energy or they're just strained from the experience.
@BrakSplash
@BrakSplash Год назад
I dunno. In that one Sonic special, the wisps were drained of energy the entire time. But once freed, they immediately helped Sonic battle Metal Sonic. I think in this case, it's either a plot hole or Sonic didn't want to go back on his word 🤔
@BlackFlash09
@BlackFlash09 Год назад
@@BrakSplash Alright, I'll assume they're just strained from the experience.
@DigiWarriorCallum
@DigiWarriorCallum Год назад
Could you imagine if Whisper's Wisps came out of the cage as Frenzy and Void Nega Wisps?
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
At least it doesn't turn them evil.
@BrakSplash
@BrakSplash Год назад
A bit of a long post, because its a Conclusion for a long arc. I apologize ahead of time: I recall Flynn mentioned in one of his podcasts that originally Surge and Kit would have appeared during a Metal Virus. But, I think he mentioned the editor thought it would be too many characters introduced at once. About the comic: I had mixed feelings. The fight scenes were fun, and the team work was interesting. And it was impressive to see Sonic actually struggling. And see the range of emotions he's gone through in this issue alone. But Surge and Kit, as characters, were starting to get repetitive. None of what Surge said made sense. She looked happy hurting others, before she even met Sonic face to face. And when she does, she starts spouting nonsense about why a Hedgehog who saves lives is no better then someone who kills. And Kit said Sonic is no different then Eggman and Starline because he wants them? I'm sorry, but that just made no sense. Surge and Kit are an amazing duo in appearance, with cool abilities. But I wouldn't mind if they disappeared for a while. Or if just Kit shows up. Conclusion: Surge almost looked like she had a super form while going through the color spectrum. It was glorious.
@nellewoodruff6337
@nellewoodruff6337 Год назад
In Kit's case, I think he still sees sonic as a manipulator like Starline since Sonic "lied" about Surge being dead. In Surge's case, I think that her flawed logic and everything shows how confused and twisted up she is on top of her hallucinations making things worse, but that's just how I see it
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
I think the story needed to give surge a scene of her selflessly protecting kit from danger. Or something like ordering him to take care of himself should she die somehow to payoff on her need for him and lessen her one track minded obsession or realize she isn't as bond to it as she thought.
@BrakSplash
@BrakSplash Год назад
@Snaaaaap that would be nice. But as far as I see, that's way out of Surge's character. She cares for no one but herself. When she first stole the Dynamo cage, she didn't once think to look for Kit, or cared if he alive or dead. She only barely tolerates Kit because he eagerly tries to please her. I honestly think she wouldn't care if Kit was killed off even after going back for her twice.
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
@@BrakSplash I think she was beginning to do more than just tolerate him though. If not she would've acted more mean like at the start of imposter syndrome. Because of kit programming it wouldn't matter how she act, kit would obey. She just haven't acknowledged him verbally yet. In 55 she start considering kit in her delusions of being hurt. Maybe it just clumsy writing to make up from before but it is there.
@BrakSplash
@BrakSplash Год назад
@Snaaaaap huh, that's an interesting way to look at it. I always assumed Surge was more verbally abusive to Kit at first because he would nervously follow Starline's plan before her own. That meant she didn't have a complete hold over him. Plus, Kit often stuttered, making Surge even more verbally abusive. But after they turned against the platypus , Kit fully listened to Surge's demands, no matter how ludicrous they were.
@cofagrigusfan24
@cofagrigusfan24 Год назад
i'm pretty sure that Surge and Kit are fine, just look at the broken window behind Kit when they left they are like what Belle is for Mr. Tinker while their creator is gone, their story impact remains in there creations
@funkmastaC
@funkmastaC Год назад
Of all the things to happen. A heroic DM intervention.
@reinaldo14
@reinaldo14 Год назад
2:11 Something tells me that's a Devil Man Crybaby reference🤔
@BanBootlicking
@BanBootlicking Год назад
5:29 I've seen a fanmade panel on Twitter of the aftermath if Surge succeeded here; morbid. 😬
@59rlmccormack
@59rlmccormack Год назад
Hopefully, these two will crop up again, that would be really cool to see.
@gmanawesome5773
@gmanawesome5773 Год назад
. REALLY HOPPING IDW COUNTUE WITH THE SONIC THE HEDGEHOG SERIES I REALLY REALLY WANT TO SEE MORE OF SURGE & KIT IN THE FUTURE
@mileshk8083
@mileshk8083 Год назад
Surge and Kit are slowly turning into my favorite new characters of this series, thanks to their need for one another, their tragic origins story and their powers, and I really want them to return. However, in order for them to become an even bigger threat that this time, the key action might be healing their mental instability. If they somehow find a healing pond (something akin to a Chao Sanctuary, powered by a Chaos Emerald), they could start from there and reflect on their actions. After that, we can have many possibilities, like being recruited by the other new villains, evolve their natural abilities, being mistaken by heroes and thinking about their past, etc.
@Rman94
@Rman94 Год назад
I imagine after Surge's overusing their power and her short circuiting freeing them from the dynamo cage, the wisps barely had enough energy to float. If Tails had his tablet on him they could've asked but I think the Wisps being too drained to help them escape makes the most sense.
@Howardpower679
@Howardpower679 Год назад
I love this chapter cause everyone lost in some way they won nothing and proved nothing atleat whisper wisps are cool now
@ZenithintheMaking
@ZenithintheMaking Год назад
I'd like to say that I totally didn't notice that Vegeta pose reference 😂. I should have known a long time ago 😩 Next, I would say that this was the kind of ending that I expected since they wouldn't want this to be too long, or be so continuous in this comic. It's really blows that this was the destined outcome. Hopefully some time in the future Sonic could finally find and save those two. If anyone will teach them how to be free it's him, Sonic the Hedgehog 😎 P.s the art and everything is just so cool. I always just have to look back and appreciate how awesome this comic is when it didn't have to be. It could have been but it ain't. It NEVER is🤩✨👌 I really hope that everyone of all ages could know how cool this is. Especially the kids because this may be the only time they could see how cool Sonic in MODERN DAY. Other than Sonic Frontiers or movies
@james739123
@james739123 Год назад
I hate hatreds based on misunderstandings.
@silveryuno
@silveryuno Год назад
One way Surge and Kit could come back into the story later is them having visit Tails or Dr. Eggman because their bodies are in need of maintenance.
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
That's what I was expecting if Starline wasn't bluffing about that to save his butt.
@leon4000
@leon4000 Год назад
@@Snaaaaap If his words turned out to be true, then they should be in the worst condition by the next time we see them. If not, then they should still move around.
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
Issues I have with this arc aside, I feel like the finale could've actually been one issue longer with more action scenes to give Sonic and Metal some actual shine and really illustrate them doing their best to take Surge down only for her to prove too tough or powerful for them despite their efforts. And like Beatman said have an epilogue thing with Whisper reuniting with her Wisps and a hint at Surge and Kit's current whereabouts. Because where else they could they go if they didn't kill themselves with the collapsing base? Side note: Also, I wish Sonic was allowed to get angry before the end of the arc. For example, him getting mad at Surge after witnessing she beat up Whisper rather than just being smug. Ya know, wanting to actually pay Surge back because he's out of patience with having his friends attacked instead of just saying 'I see you're making bad life choices again'. That just felt bad taste of line to use like "big off" when Starlines' passing was mentioned. What I would've given for him to say "You've gone too far, Kid! You're gonna pay for what you did to Whisper!"' And have Surge reply with "What? Yer not gonna forgive me this time? Did I blow my second chance?" Would've been nice to have Surge actively protect Kit from danger to give a definitive bonding moment between them. I feel like they don't really get that and it has just been Kit "saving" her.
@namersonuncle4971
@namersonuncle4971 Год назад
I feel like in another timeline, Sonic just kinda gives up at some point in this moment, just stops running, jumps in the water, and tells surge: “Know what? Maybe your right. Maybe the cycle between me and Eggman has gone on long enough. But before you end it, how’s about we just talk? No jokes, no quips, no puns, just talk, have some final words between us. I’ll stand right here, I won’t move. Giving you all the power here. I’m just done.” And I can just see surge be like: “………………” (um, w-wha? I mean… he’s not moving, he’s literally just standing there, and I have the advantage… I guess talking couldn’t really hurt.) I feel like Surge wouldn’t fully know what to do in this situation.
@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv
@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv Год назад
To be fair the Overpowered arc already acted as extended epilogue to the The Bad Guys, The Chao Resort Race, Camp Forest Fire, Road To Issue 50, and Imposter Syndrome Arcs. That’s seven interconnected arcs. Anymore would be more excessive.
@DefectoPerfect0
@DefectoPerfect0 Год назад
I really like the Yu Yu yu Hakusho connection Blue made. It's a fantastic anime that holds up. If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it!
@Moonlight-qo5hw
@Moonlight-qo5hw Год назад
I was happy that the Dynamo Cage got destroyed cause it made Surge even worse, despite getting powerful. Also, I feel like she is gonna do more harm than before if she doesn’t handle the brainwash that Starline left her along with Kit.
@terrellrogers7645
@terrellrogers7645 Год назад
Maybe there will be some sort of epilogue in the annual 🤔 btw I would like to know Surge & Kit’s backstory pre Starline
@ivanacurna6577
@ivanacurna6577 Год назад
I think maybe the wisps didn't help Sonic because they were drained from that Surge overpowering herself?
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
It's a wonder they didn't become Nega-Wisps.
@mobchao
@mobchao Год назад
I didn’t even take this issue as the end of Surge and Kit’s storyline. I simply thought they retreated until they show up again later. I REALLY hope this isn’t the end. They were written SO FREAKING WELL
@roseyroundtheedges
@roseyroundtheedges Год назад
I find it funny you put the Wisps down for not lending their abilities to Sonic and/or Tails when it came time to escape. I mean, did you _not_ just see how Surge was abusing their energies this whole time? Not to mention the big final draw on their powers that ultimately overloaded and destroyed the Dynamo Cage? They had nothing left to GIVE dude. Get off their little alien backs.
@markgill346
@markgill346 Год назад
Anyone notice that the six districts around Eggperial City resemble the 6 of the Emerald colors: Cyan, Blue, Red, Green, Yellow and Purple ? Also the Chaos Emerald Rouge stole in the 2022 Annual was either the Blue Emerald or the Silver Emerald. I wouldn't be surprised if Eggman found the remaining emeralds and inserted them into the different areas for extra power.
@Randomguy-ih5sd
@Randomguy-ih5sd Год назад
I really doubt Surge and Kit are dead
@NobleBushido2225
@NobleBushido2225 Год назад
For Eggman he did have a minor victory by retaking Eggbase Sigma back after he override all of Starline's security measures and paint back the Eggman logo's. If Surge and Kit did perish in the collapsed bunker then Eggman will sooner or later discover their remains and study Starline's research left behind. We may get Surge and Kit return as servents to Eggman (similar to Sonic Adventure 2 with Shadow having a rewritten memory from Eggman's grandfather), or new Eggman enforcers in the future.
@splitthecat
@splitthecat Год назад
Hey MegaBeatMan! I don’t really know who to ask about this but I believe I have a piece of Archie Lost media(?) It’s a printing Templet of Issue 16 of Archie Sonic X and I’m unsure if it’s been documented, you’re one of the only RU-vidrs I know who covers sonic comics so I wanted to bring this to your attention! Anyways cya!
@sevensvn5391
@sevensvn5391 Год назад
Nothing against Stanley, but I am SO glad to hear Ian will be returning. There's just something off about the execution of the stories they work on compared to Flynn that I can't quite put into words.
@vm141789
@vm141789 Год назад
Funny. I also thought of Yu Yu Hakusho when I first read that part. Intentional?
@johanstenfelt1206
@johanstenfelt1206 Год назад
Huh, it seems like you started-off 2023 with a bang. Anyway, I was sort of hoping that Kit would’ve eventually figured-out just what kind of effect the Cage had on Surge and tried to destroy it himself, but guess not, Still, have it be destroyed by overload works too, I guess. Hm, this was a interesting End to the Arc, Honestly, I really hope that this isn’t the last time we see Surge and Kitsunami, i think there could still be some much more that could be done with their Characters and it would be sort of a waste to just end things here, also there could still be at least some hope for them yet, If we do see them again, i just hope their Stories conclusion won’t be too bad at least and that they can have at least some kind of closure. Anyway, next Issue, huh? Seems like it’s going to be quite interesting, considering Arc we just finished, I hope it will be a good follow up and I hope we’ll get a good transition from this Arc to the Next, so that it at least doesn’t seem like we forgetting about this Arc too quickly, Also, so Sheep Girl is actually going to get a more of a prominent Role now, huh? I gotta say, she always struck me as more of a significant Character than what we were lead to believe, can’t say why though, Regardless, it will be interesting to see her in action and to see just what kind of Character she really is, as well as to see if we’ll get to know more about her beyond this Coming Story, It will be interesting to see where things will go from here on out, can’t wait. Anyway, i will look forward to your next video, see you then.
@Rman94
@Rman94 Год назад
Hmm another way this could've played out is rather then Kit just collapsing the room, he and Surge would've set up time bombs in place before hand or setting the base to self-destruct if they were defeated. Then Kit collapses the room to trap them all intending to go out in a "fiery blaze" with Sonic, Eggman, metal, and Tails making a mad dash to escape while a timer counting down in the panel's corners.
@ninjanate5018
@ninjanate5018 Год назад
Suddenly, Metroid.
@Aardie_Aardwolf
@Aardie_Aardwolf Год назад
I really hate the walk away ending.
@widerekxxanimations6842
@widerekxxanimations6842 Год назад
I do think surge and kit are stil alive, just not gonna be seeing them for some time
@lucastheprinceofdarkness9344
To explain the possible plot hole. I don’t think the Wisp had enough power considering that they were being drained of power. As for Surge and Kit, the way I was reading the comic, it looked like Kit flew out to skylight while destroying the room around him. So I’m pretty sure that they are alive and well. And after seeing fan art of Surge failing to intimidate everyone’s favorite edgelord… I think Surge should definitely come back!
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
Eggman wasn't evil enough in this arc. He's never given a panel to react to sonic's suffering from surge. Whether it be watching with delight or cold disappointment. Frankly, I think it would be the latter for him to see sonic get killed by some young inexperienced upstart and not him or his creations.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
I'm not mad that Sonic let Eggman get away this time. Eggman just fixed Metal, and Sonic and Tails are a bit beaten. They'd have to go through Metal to get to Eggman. They need to regain their strength. Besides, the next arc will be about Sonic and friends taking the fight to Eggman.
@warthogpower7729
@warthogpower7729 Год назад
just letting people know don't talk to this guy he like start fights with people for no reason and supports disgusting people on the internet who do lewe_ed art on underage characters just let people know
@njfox3305
@njfox3305 Год назад
I wonder how sage will join the comics?
@user-oy2zg3bt6n
@user-oy2zg3bt6n Год назад
i think she won't at least in my way of making sense of IDW all of these events happen before frontires and after forces
@njfox3305
@njfox3305 Год назад
@@user-oy2zg3bt6n I'm not saying she joins now she'll probably join later after the comics go up to frontiers and after.
@MarioSonicBee
@MarioSonicBee Год назад
@@user-oy2zg3bt6n or that IDW takes place in a split timeline
@user-oy2zg3bt6n
@user-oy2zg3bt6n Год назад
@@MarioSonicBee the stories themselves are canon (at least until they say otherwise)
@lorenbrown7100
@lorenbrown7100 Год назад
Metal sonic has fell from grace he used to be op but I guess a robot can only go so far even though egg man could upgrade him but chooses not to
@justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313
I think the reason why this issue feels so incomplete and rushed compared to previous issues is because IDW is currently in deep dogshit and isn't stable financially which means SEGA and the staff they've that write these comics are playing it safe in-case the company goes belly up. I don't think they'd want to go back to Archie given all the shit that's happened in the past with them. But when IDW does go belly-up SEGA's gonna need to either find *another* comic publisher for Sonic's brand or say "Screw it! We'll just publish them ourselves."
@TheCleanerDragon
@TheCleanerDragon Год назад
Do you have any sources for that? Just looking up idw on google and I can't find anything about their financial situation.
@justynhill4814
@justynhill4814 Год назад
Show proof of these statements.
@user-oy2zg3bt6n
@user-oy2zg3bt6n Год назад
@@TheCleanerDragon just look up IDW on this very platform lol
@TheCleanerDragon
@TheCleanerDragon Год назад
Did it and the first result is "IDW Comics Crashes" guess I just needed to look in the right place. Thanks!
@user-oy2zg3bt6n
@user-oy2zg3bt6n Год назад
@@TheCleanerDragon np
@seematahir5970
@seematahir5970 Год назад
I liked this arc but the pacing feels weird. It's really slow and repetitive, it feels like every issue since 50 is just Surge, Kit, Sonic, Tails, and Eggy dicking around and repeating the same things over and over again. There are standout moments but it all feels directionless, which has been a problem since metal virus ended. I still really liked Surge and Kit and like I said there were cool moments, I just don't feel as invested for whatever reason. Metal Virus definitely dragged but it felt like it was building up to something and the characters had defined goals. Here I'm not even sure when the arc starts and ends.
@kingjamesc1156
@kingjamesc1156 Год назад
I don’t know surge and Kit are pretty popular. They might come back.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
They WILL be back; even if Ian says he intended for them to die, their popularity is just too high. Ian should be able to see that happening if he says they're dead.
@keis93
@keis93 Год назад
That my sir is very deep 11:11-12:39 #sonicthehedgehog #soinc_the_hedgehog #idw #idwpublishing #idw_publishing #idwsonic #idw_sonic #idwsonicthehedgehog #idw_sonicthehedgehog #idw_sonic_the_hedgehog #idwsonic_the_hedgehog #surgethetenrec #surge_the_tenrec #surge #kitsunamithefennec #kitsunami_the_fennec #kitthefennec #kit_the_fennec #kit #kitsunami #theydidntaskforthis #they_didnt_ask_for_this #verydeep #very_deep #megabeatman
@mariosonic657
@mariosonic657 Год назад
This issue felt off and to me is the weakest of the arc
@anthonysmith3415
@anthonysmith3415 Год назад
I had fun, kinda wish it didn't just end but hey maybe it'll be a better story when they come back and I look forward to their return
@kobeawesomegamer1696
@kobeawesomegamer1696 Год назад
New vidoe
@reviewer945
@reviewer945 Год назад
I am not looking forward to the next arc because I never fully liked any of the new heroes (the villains are good) that the IDW comics brought in because (and I hate to say it) Belle overstayed her welcome while Tangle and Whisper seem to appear randomly and then not appear for a long time (kind of like Classic Sonic in Sonic Forces) which is bad when the comics take so long to come out and as a result I more or less forgot those 2 existed for a time.
@envynoson
@envynoson Год назад
Surge and Kit shouldn't have been priority one for Sonic and Tails. I can see them chase down Surge and Kit but the moment they knew Eggman was there, Eggman should have been the main target. You know, the guy who started that Nano Zombie Apocalypse, took over the world in forces. That's a bigger priority than hunting down a person for destroying a city block in a city.
@justynhill4814
@justynhill4814 Год назад
Because they know that the one has not only captured wisp but in danger of destroying herself and are not about to let a life go and the MV is far done now and because of her wisp power source and the chaos drive she was the more powerful on in the building.
@user-oy2zg3bt6n
@user-oy2zg3bt6n Год назад
this person who is destroying a block in a city has just gimped one of their heros and they need a lot more help in order to invade eggpirial city along side that the restoration has been preparing in the background to invade the city so it makes sense they would go after surge
@superdalen7140
@superdalen7140 Год назад
First
@williamcollis455
@williamcollis455 Год назад
1:15 please rephrase
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 Год назад
Well that sure was anti-climactic. But hey how could the plot contrivance arc end on anything else but one some pretty hard contrivances. I do still dislike Sonic being so focus on turning his enemies into friends in this comic as the very examples the story uses to justify it (Shadow and Knuckles) are cases were Sonic had no interest in trying to talk them out of there evil action and just fought them. He just quickly accepted there turn for the better (same is also true for Silver and to a lesser extent Blaze). But as Ian kind of forced this onto Evan with his writing for Sonic concerning Metal Sonic and Surge prior is she kind of stuck with it so I don't want to hold it against the issue to much even if I still personally dislike it. In large part because it really feels like we just strip Sonic of even the last bit of his edge when even his snark is only aimed at converting people to the good. So lets start small and move are self up the the big dumb ending. 1) Surge Absorbing the Dark shield: This actually is a 2 folded issues. As for one its questionable why it even knocks out Metal Sonic because if its that she drained all of his energy than shouldn't Eggman be able to fix anything making it a plot hole that he could get him back online. And if it wasn't that then what else? And as a second point does it open the very simple question how can Surge still normal brain realize that she can do this faster than Metal and why couldn't metal just deactivate the Dark shield the second she did this anyway. And as a bonus point how did Metal even end up in this situation he should know better than anyone but Eggman what the dynamo cage can actually do. 2) Where the hell was Tails when Surge was frying him? Like at this point did Kit stop the fight and you really want to tell me that Tails would just let Sonic fall to his doom? 3) Why do nether Metal nor Sonic ever even try to get rid of the Dynamo Cage and break it as it would make Surge Infinity weaker imminently. And give the heroes access to the Wisp power of the Wisp she stole. And now for the big one. Nothing about the finally with Kit works. Eggman got Metal online and we saw clearly in Imposter Syndrom that Kit doesn't stand a change against Metal and even during the escape did it take Kit and a still fully powered Tails to delay Metal (he was never actually beaten and only failed in killing Sonic because he was recalled because of Surge). Tails was still fully healed and we clearly saw in issue 50 that Kit is no match for him to the point that Tails could beat him without having to throw a single punch AND Tails knows a sure fire way to one shot kit without hurting him to much by pulling a fee wires out of his hydrocoil. Sonic doesn't need Tails to get out he got at least 4 different Wisps right here than easily can save him (Hover, Rocked, Laser, Spike and if need be could he properly even just drill himself out). And speaking about with Wisp Sonic could easily have stopped Kit by just using laser or Rocked. It makes no sense that he would refuse to kick Kits ass as he had no issue doing so with Surge. And if you want me to believe that the wisp were to drained should they have been drawn that way preferably not even being able to fly anymore (never mind that even if they were worn down would they have turned into Nega Wisp and there aren't a thing Kit could do about Sonic going VOID). And given how deep into the complex there are it him being able to just destroy it all also a bit strange as the best he has gotten prior was thrown a spike ball of an Egg Breaker back at it to destroy it. Now that I'm done explaining why Kit getting away with the way he ended thing makes no god damn sense lets talk about him doing this in the first place doesn't ether. So first of all he stops his fight with Tails because Tails convinces him that he might have an argument here. Kit is due to presumably having notice that Surge is hurting herself through the dynamo cage even willing to listen to the idea that Sonic will turn things around. Now please someone explain me which of the fallowing action which is just Sonic trying to time stale Surge for her powers to run out so that they can talk things out and free the by them kidnapped Wisps implies that they are only here to win an argument about whose ideology is the right one? The only one betraying anyone is Eggman and while Eggman says that Sonic and Tails would do the same is Eggman obviously not to be trusted, there are tons of examples in the series that they hold there promises including the actual ending of this very issue and Kit knows that Eggman is an evil lying villain so he had to be utterly stupid to believe Eggman. Furthermore is Surge absolutely toasted and he wants the best for her so the Heroes offering proper aid and wanting to defend her from being taken by Eggman and Metal all go highly against the conclusions he ended up coming to. Its a rather badly written peace of story that only exist so that we won't lose all sympathy points for kit, He and Tails don't have a fight that eats up panel space that Evan wanted to give to Surge and Sonic AND to give the 2 of them an easy way out to escape having to ether stand legal trial if sonic and Tails get them or being turned into Egg-weapons if Eggman were to get them. Its contrived on any level and the real thing that this make for a super underwhelming ending to a already questionable at best story arc. Prior to now would I have said Chao Races and Badnik bases was the worst story arc Evan has written so far for the comic but I think Overpowered now is a pretty good runner up. It handles its new characters arguably worse than Belles introduction was handled, relies on contrive situations all the time, is still being hold back by Ian's insistence on taking the edge out of hedgehog and feels massivly rushed on all ends. More like someone wanted to quickly tie up some lose ends than anything. The artwork including the fight scene choreography are the only thing I can say are good about all the issues but that alone can't save this story.
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
With the Metal Black Shield, I think it should've just taken Surge's hand off, but ya know... With Eggman fixing Metal maybe he just recharged his battery if Surge drained him? Yeah, why didn't Metal and Sonic aim for the dynamo? It's the same problem with Whisper back in 53 and Sonic in 54, but even worse now since they know what is powering her for sure. No excuse, man. I mean, Sonic was planning to break it anyway. What's this nonsense about trying to wear Surge down? She should be as powerful a chaos emerald or more by this point. The only option is to take the dynamo off of her! It's funny how scared Surge was to fight Sonic and Metal, but somehow locking them in a facility would somehow make that better? Did she and Kit really have a plan? I think Tails tried to save Sonic before he fell, but was too slow to catch him and Tails just chickened outta being shocked. He didn't want none of that, but considering it was a science facility and they were fighting a person they know has electromagnetic powers... why didn't Tails and Sonic bring a pair or two of INSULATED GLOVES!! Surge's electrical powers are inconsistent enough as it is and just seem to work when the plot wants to instead of by logic, but like why didn't Tails get some alternate costume that was in the games that could just be written off as an insulated suit so Sonic can smack Surge in the face a few times? Pay back for Whisper is needed! Surge just blowing herself out ain't too satisfying. I'm having metal virus flash backs where nobody would wear gloves or body suits or use metal weapons to fight off the hordes when it would make complete sense and just act completely helpless. I don't get Kit's reasoning that Sonic wants to use him or prove something other than his mind is just warped and distrustful of him when he "lied" about Surge being dead. That and he doesn't understand friendship and sees things from a servitude angle. I also don't really like how this comic keeps sucking the edge outta Sonic. This comic gives him the patience of a saint compared to like anything else when he's supposed to be short-tempered and impatient. Instead they keep acting like a simp for Metal and Eggman. I see this arc almost as bad as Zeti Hunt, but it was at least more entertaining, I guess.
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 Год назад
@@Snaaaaap I don't even see the issue in it not cutting through Surge as we with the Egg Pawns right when Surge first used the Cage was shown does energy around her ingeneral start to behave weirdly. That being said should that only be more reason for Metal to shut down the shield imminently. The question with "recharging" is how Kit drained all of the bases power into Surge and Surge herself stole Eggman's Egg Walker's Chaos drive so what kind of backup power could he have? Yes the lack of protective gear is rather similar to Metal Virus. I guess in this case at least did they Rush to get the Wisp back sooner rather than latter (which makes the state of Sonic's leg only more confusing) But I also want to say just because Surge electrifies everything is that really no excuse for Tails to do nothing he could totally throw things at Surge. Or if need be even threaten to drag Kit into the current so that she would kill him as (remember Tails did no know shills when breaking into prison island when Sonic's life is at stake than all bets are off) or if we want something more PG could he have tried to redirect Surges current with one of the many wires in the building. Or hell rip Metal's blaster out of his chest and use that one to distract her. Really anything would be better than nothing at all. For all intense and purposes do we not even know if surge her self is electrified during any of this as she actually needs her Metal stuff in her design to generate electricity according to her design sheet meaning Tails could just rip at the dynamo cage while Surge is trying to strangle Sonic. I still have issues with Kit even just thinking it was a lie given that he also though Surge was dead when she was crushed by the Egg Breaker in Imposter Syndrom issue 2. He should know that with guys a durable as them self you can easily think they died long before there bodies actually give up. Like I can see Sonic mustering up a bit more patients with someone that properly needs it (like with Shara) but at least for villains shouldn't he hold back. Like I can't see IDW Sonic seal Erazor away, beat sense into Perfect Chaos and Merlina or run into a short tempered fight based on a misunderstanding with one of his rivals (at least not without him trying to talk said rival out of it) like he used to do with the likes of Knuckles, Shadow and Blaze. Hell even just seeing him giving Jet some really bitter medicine by utterly disrespecting him is something I can hardly see this soft boiled Sonic see doing. I really don't get why these writers feel the need to surgically remove the edge. My best guess is that Sonic kind of has to ultimately be the paragon of the story for it to not be patronizing and they just really don't want the hyper static 2000's era version of game Sonic at least that is my best guess. I could be totally off and they just want to push Sonic into a direction they enjoy more or something else entirely. I properly agree that Its about the same quality level as Zeti hunt just a bit better because the fights are far more creative and interesting in this one compared to Zeti Hunt which was some of the most boring "Spin attack" spamming ever.
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
@@rynobehnke8289 Yeah, you right about Tails just doing nothing the whole time during Sonic's electrocution. Him not attempting anything does make it look like he just watched and of course would be out of character. Evan could've at least wrote Kit restraining him (along of with his tails) so he'd be forced to watch Sonic suffer, but then Kit wouldn't look sympathetic in any capacity if she did. That and he already stopped fighting Tails for a while. Passive milksop IDW Sonic is really annoying at this point. I really wish the IDW comics had completely different writers that actually wrote worth their salt and wasn't just a bunch of fan comics creators with only really fan comics to their name before being handed a job. The double edge sword of the accessibility of the internet.
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 Год назад
@@Snaaaaap Given that Tails argued to Kit that SONIC will work thinks out do I think Kit could have restrained tails here and stating that if Sonic really can than shouldn't he need Tails help. Or maybe that If Surge can kill him now can she be free too. Or really anything. I mean being professional really doesn't guaranty quality ether (just look at the Archie Sonic book which despite having all long standing professional writers working on it prior to Ian were an utter mess). I feel what is far more necessary here is far stricter and better on the series educated editors. Especially with Ian's writing did I noticed that he has gotten a lot worse with consistency after Archie Sonic which implies to me that a lot of Ian's problems now were dampened by stricter editors back on the Archie Sonic book. For as much as freedom of authors is praised these days so do many authors just really need a strong editorial hand in the mix to point out the issues in the stories that they write that they them self didn't noticed or didn't thought would be important.
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
@@rynobehnke8289 well, that's why I said writers worth their salt. By that I meant them being truly experienced writing consistently good stuff and know what they are doing than fan who's biggiest credit is a fan comic that never really had much input other than biased friends and fans who wouldn't dare be critical assuming they'd listen even if they did, right? I don't think Ian especially takes criticism well or seriously. But I know what you mean. A good editor can wrangle a really unfocused writer. Funny you mention about Ian with continuity. I think on one of his bumblecas he admits he doesn't care too much about it too much anymore, so not just a loose editor but a loose mindset, too.
@Grey8270
@Grey8270 Год назад
Well this whole storyline was a waste of time
@sevensvn5391
@sevensvn5391 Год назад
Indeed. A lot of Evan's work on idw seems to be poorly paced pseudo-filler.
@tonyhedgehogzamora6888
@tonyhedgehogzamora6888 Год назад
This goes to show the difference between IDW Sonic and Tails with their Archie Sonic and Tails. In the IDW Sonic is ignorant of the pain of others and Tails is basically a follower of Sonic. While the Archie Sonic and Tails have suffered and made mistakes and learned from them and suffered losses and defeats from Robotnik.
@justynhill4814
@justynhill4814 Год назад
What bs are you talking about. IDW isn’t ignorant of people pain Sonic he literally been trying to talk things out with Surge this whole arc. He didn’t had a full picture but he wasn’t wrong the way he went about it the first time but now that he know about their situation he’s trying his best to talk to her now. Tails has been his own hero for this arc stopping Surge and talking to Kit.
@tonyhedgehogzamora6888
@tonyhedgehogzamora6888 Год назад
@@justynhill4814 you’re right I wasn’t paying attention I got ahead of myself but you got to admit that the video game Sonic never had any personal lost and had plot armor well not in this fight with Surge
@SMToonSurprise
@SMToonSurprise Год назад
I feel like the longer Sonic is reminded of his morals, the sooner he will SNAP…
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