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IEC wants to hear MK Party's claims on 'rigged' elections in court 

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The IEC is calling on the Electoral Court to decline MK Party's withdrawal of the legal bid to have the May 29th election outcomes set aside. The MK party claimed that the elections were not free and fair, and alleged to have evidence to prove the polls were rigged, but withdrew this bid last week. Legal Director at the Institute for Election Management Services in Africa Nkululeko Tselane has more.
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@SoultyBoiBeats
@SoultyBoiBeats 23 дня назад
Lol😂😂😂, when mk wanted IEC, they were running, now mk is pulling away and IEC is running after them
@Cuewill
@Cuewill 23 дня назад
You killing me bro😂😂 that’s so true
@BrotherM1978
@BrotherM1978 23 дня назад
IEC never ran, that's why MK must be held to account. IT'S ABOUT TIME POLITICIANS ARE EXPOSED FOR LYING TO THE PUBLIC...
@chiefer1325
@chiefer1325 23 дня назад
Yeah, you can't spread rumours and when it's time for evidence, you run away....MK must provide the so called evidence
@BrotherM1978
@BrotherM1978 23 дня назад
You're so delusional it's unbelievable 😂😂😂😂😂
@thabopike5842
@thabopike5842 23 дня назад
I don't remember IEC running. All they wanted was proof.. Did MK supply proof? Instead MK told us they will go to the International Court. Aaaaai nani
@user-gy2vz2or2u
@user-gy2vz2or2u 23 дня назад
I want this to go to court as MK member
@BrotherM1978
@BrotherM1978 23 дня назад
Me too, I don't want the case withdrawn...
@Bluecollarjoe6B9
@Bluecollarjoe6B9 23 дня назад
IEC telling MK to keep that energy.
@BrotherM1978
@BrotherM1978 23 дня назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@gtxchufxvj
@gtxchufxvj 23 дня назад
Guest good speaker nice and clear, knows if stuff. Need more black people like him in gov.
@sizwelungambethe6485
@sizwelungambethe6485 22 дня назад
We are not black we are Africans
@ThokozaniM
@ThokozaniM 23 дня назад
We want to hear the case in court. Don't swipe it under the carpet
@cliffordmulaudzi3503
@cliffordmulaudzi3503 23 дня назад
Where is evidence bring forward
@jacklenge531
@jacklenge531 23 дня назад
Clevor blacks a a problem in this country
@sbongokuhlealex5357
@sbongokuhlealex5357 21 день назад
IEC is running after MK now😂😂😂
@SLTVC-xe2re
@SLTVC-xe2re 23 дня назад
But the the DA also submitted an application to stop the case, why the IEC didn`t stop DA`s afidavid?
@nkululekotselane539
@nkululekotselane539 23 дня назад
The DA's affidavit isn't asking for the election results to be overturned or for a re-run of the elections so there's no reason for the IEC to oppose it
@magugunkandi8584
@magugunkandi8584 20 дней назад
DA asked Electoral Court to dismiss the case
@ShawnRademeyer
@ShawnRademeyer 23 дня назад
Yeah, bring that evidence 😂
@bonganidumisa1458
@bonganidumisa1458 23 дня назад
You repeat a clear propaganda, they overuse the term "evidence" to mislead the naive who can't see through the truth
@samkunene7521
@samkunene7521 23 дня назад
Follow the case in Durban.
@kulaniful
@kulaniful 23 дня назад
Check mate,
@kesseltonnkosi
@kesseltonnkosi 23 дня назад
IEC fighting ANC battles, pathetic
@carlruppert7324
@carlruppert7324 23 дня назад
What are you talking about?
@jiwwo1799
@jiwwo1799 23 дня назад
​@carlruppert7324 What is it that it's not clear in this comment??..Yes iec is fighting anc's battle😕, and SAfricans spoken during elections
@user-ce4dm8wy2u
@user-ce4dm8wy2u 23 дня назад
I agree with you, ANC is IEC
@unathimichaelmxaku8105
@unathimichaelmxaku8105 23 дня назад
why did they lost votes if IEC is captured by ANC?
@carlruppert7324
@carlruppert7324 23 дня назад
@@jiwwo1799 no, the IEC is fighting to clear its name against serious accussations made against it, by MK. Has nothing to do with the ANC.
@BrotherM1978
@BrotherM1978 23 дня назад
Ziyakhala ke manje 😂😂😂😂😂
@manyananihlwatika726
@manyananihlwatika726 23 дня назад
😂😂😂 Zuma has always been such a guy... No evidence just him as a victim... Know wonder Mbeki dismissed him
@user-tm8qf6zr8w
@user-tm8qf6zr8w 23 дня назад
That why Mbeki didn't finish his term and his cope didn't succeed as well 😂😂😂
@sanelemkhize9176
@sanelemkhize9176 23 дня назад
That why Mbeki samunika 2/3 majority wangawusebenzisa that why Mbeki ayekelela abantu befa ngenxa yeHIV
@user-ce4dm8wy2u
@user-ce4dm8wy2u 23 дня назад
Mbeki is jealous of Zuma and he will never succeed look at hi party😂
@bonganidumisa1458
@bonganidumisa1458 23 дня назад
Don't believe in propaganda, evidence was all over including live videos.
@bonganidumisa1458
@bonganidumisa1458 23 дня назад
Looks like you don't understand what evidence means, you keep on harping on one word, the court will deal with evidence not a group of parrots. IEC and blind followers keep on repeating same word.
@sandilekhumalo-yq3vf
@sandilekhumalo-yq3vf 21 день назад
All of this could've been avoided with a recount which could've just taken 3 days😏
@davidopsina3871
@davidopsina3871 21 день назад
Yes, the election WAS rigged but the MK Bantus are powerless and must shut up. They can do NOTHING.
@mosesntuli2888
@mosesntuli2888 23 дня назад
Where is the evidence of 9000 mk votes that they founded in the dustbins😂
@user-uq9ry1pf5w
@user-uq9ry1pf5w 23 дня назад
Some live evidence in Pietermaritzburg court cases
@nthabibotsi9855
@nthabibotsi9855 21 день назад
By that time, some MK members still in denial that MK withdrew the case and saying we are listening to SABC from Stellenboch lier. M just wondering if this was communicated to them bcz it's here☝️
@mogauledwaba9629
@mogauledwaba9629 19 дней назад
😂😂this 1ns I wish I can open their minds nd see what's happening coz wow
@nthabibotsi9855
@nthabibotsi9855 18 дней назад
@@mogauledwaba9629 Difficult people indeed 🤣
@sizwelungambethe6485
@sizwelungambethe6485 22 дня назад
When have seen a lot of videos of ballot papers in trucks, South Africa you must also remember 26 parties submitted their complaint to IEC for vote rigging only MK party took the matter to court.
@AndileNkosi-kf8em
@AndileNkosi-kf8em 22 дня назад
So according to you finding blank ballot papers in trucks that were going to be delivered in VD's is evidence of vote rigging😂😂😂
@AlieSonata
@AlieSonata 23 дня назад
The question is it against the law to withdraw a case and this person is he the spokes person of IEC...I have not seen this pros speak of any good in the process,, If anyone has a issue with IEC, they should be heard..
@luzukomguye1595
@luzukomguye1595 11 дней назад
IEC must stop the PR exercise, MKP is coming back fully, it's a temporal withdrawal...Nkululeko Tselane must come back and talk talk talk when the matter is resubmitted in court with the additional evidence that the IEC did not want to be included....
@kamps492
@kamps492 22 дня назад
MK should provide evidence our democracy was questioned.
@nkululekonkululeko7318
@nkululekonkululeko7318 23 дня назад
Yes let's hear the evidence thy hv, thy can't hide such evidence 😂😂
@mallimapengu5412
@mallimapengu5412 23 дня назад
Hear the evidence and do what?
@NdumisoZulu-di4dn
@NdumisoZulu-di4dn 22 дня назад
It is not evidence that is not available but IEC is capitalizing on principles and time frame on how and when IEC court is approached with evidence of vote rigging .
@AndileNkosi-kf8em
@AndileNkosi-kf8em 22 дня назад
​@@NdumisoZulu-di4dnBut the electoral court does give benefit of the doubt when it comes to deadlines,provided the party have concrete evidence
@mogauledwaba9629
@mogauledwaba9629 19 дней назад
Lol do they have nah
@danciah
@danciah 23 дня назад
Yes yes yes yes I support the call for IEC but will they hold ther stand if MK findings are biding
@imasinnerwholovesGod
@imasinnerwholovesGod 22 дня назад
Siya kwi criminal court, cos labantu bantshonsthile ngokwe MK
@SfisosiphoNkosi
@SfisosiphoNkosi 22 дня назад
Tselane you continue taint your name, just a concerned citizen....
@luckyikpomwosa4162
@luckyikpomwosa4162 22 дня назад
Is better they withdraw, because it's gonna be wast of time, no matter the evidence they will never win the case
@cloudstrife8791
@cloudstrife8791 23 дня назад
This a a typical zuma party dance wail and then hide when in courts.
@user-cf6nq7qg6f
@user-cf6nq7qg6f 23 дня назад
2/3 majority 😂mkhulu Zumpta promised them heaven and earth😂today he fires them😂Mr reshuffle Wenzeni uzuma?Kaaak
@BrotherM1978
@BrotherM1978 23 дня назад
Nayo lena izodliwa yinja😂, animazi kahle uBABA. Umethi ANDIZI he means exactly that 😂😂😂😂😂
@SonOfTheSoil834
@SonOfTheSoil834 20 дней назад
They should go and present those to themselves and hear that case themselves .is that difficult ?..MK has no time for obvious judicial processes with predictable outcomes
@mogauledwaba9629
@mogauledwaba9629 19 дней назад
Are they not the 1 who started this..sometimes I question things bizikhulumayo
@SonOfTheSoil834
@SonOfTheSoil834 19 дней назад
@@mogauledwaba9629 yes but they have withdrew the case so are they suppose to be forced to proceed with it ?
@syabongsmfeka6720
@syabongsmfeka6720 23 дня назад
propaganda is galore these days, niyahlekisa kodwa, you can't even hide it.
@GlobalRevivals20
@GlobalRevivals20 22 дня назад
Can IEC force MK to go back to court after they withdraw?
@sifisocyprianshezi3824
@sifisocyprianshezi3824 23 дня назад
A withdrawn case refers to a legal matter that has been temporarily or permanently removed from the court's docket at the request of the party who initiated it. Although the case is not currently active, it has not been fully resolved or concluded and may be reopened or refiled in the future.
@mariahkamogelomoloisane6276
@mariahkamogelomoloisane6276 23 дня назад
Only a court judgment can provide legal certainty in this matter; it must be revisited in court and tested.
@Sebiner
@Sebiner 22 дня назад
But unfortunately the Electoral Court deals with urgent cases related to the election. Withdrawing their case does not bode well for the urgency component, and their case might be dismissed if the file again.
@TeeOff72
@TeeOff72 23 дня назад
The question should be where do you get these analysts that give you the questions in advance?
@nkululekotselane539
@nkululekotselane539 23 дня назад
Thank you for the compliment! We actually don't know the questions in advance. They just trust that we know what we're talking about
@TeeOff72
@TeeOff72 22 дня назад
@@nkululekotselane539 lol 😆 thanks for your honesty
@sizwexaba1910
@sizwexaba1910 22 дня назад
Temporary is the key word in all this.
@imasinnerwholovesGod
@imasinnerwholovesGod 22 дня назад
Labantu bayasphoqa ngoba bacabanga ukuthi sizolwa kanti ngeke silwe
@mogauledwaba9629
@mogauledwaba9629 19 дней назад
Ilwabi ngoba nithanda ukulwa vele
@siphomayisela5274
@siphomayisela5274 23 дня назад
Sebeyithathaphi lendaba ngoba bebengayikhulumi bangama social media
@BuyaniShezi-ek6ly
@BuyaniShezi-ek6ly 23 дня назад
Phela basebenzela imnqundu
@fredlenz4743
@fredlenz4743 23 дня назад
Have the MK banned.
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 23 дня назад
why would IEC be allowed to waste public money on endless court battles.
@chiefer1325
@chiefer1325 23 дня назад
MK must go and provide evidence....
@AndrewMcFarlane_1
@AndrewMcFarlane_1 23 дня назад
Public will want to see how delusional MK is
@BrotherM1978
@BrotherM1978 23 дня назад
No James, it's MK that took the case to the Electoral court and they said they have evidence. Let them prove their case or stand a risk of being embarrassed 😂
@AndrewMcFarlane_1
@AndrewMcFarlane_1 23 дня назад
@@BrotherM1978 James doesn't do logic or rationality
@user-ww5qw8jd3b
@user-ww5qw8jd3b 22 дня назад
@@BrotherM1978 don't mind him. He's ZANU PF spy
@JimmyMaphanga-xv5md
@JimmyMaphanga-xv5md 23 дня назад
Defamation of character is very cruel is not healthy for good human beings.let’s always respect each others and the constitution of our country.we will more importantly to ourselves and others.human can course harm to others
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub 23 дня назад
MK has lost credibility by not providing evidence of their claims.
@bonganidumisa1458
@bonganidumisa1458 23 дня назад
🤣🤣🤣like a parrot you repeat "evidence" propaganda, they know that evidence exist but are trying to fool the weak minds. This court case will proceed, just watch this space
@silaskhalishwayo
@silaskhalishwayo 23 дня назад
But we all saw what happened...results manipulated and people sent back home 😂😂😂what is free and fare about that...let's not act stupid because we hate zuma
@ShawnRademeyer
@ShawnRademeyer 23 дня назад
​@@bonganidumisa1458 Evidence is kind of important.
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub 23 дня назад
@@silaskhalishwayo The election was not well run but that does not mean that it was not free and fair. There are small problems in every election but they don't affect the overall picture. All disputes were dealt with by the IEC and some recounts were done. There is no evidence of widespread manipulation. Your team lost. Get over it.
@bonganidumisa1458
@bonganidumisa1458 23 дня назад
@@ShawnRademeyer you are neither a good listener nor a good reader; you are not following the story instead you repeat "evidence" which the culprits are using as a shield.
@user-ix4mq9fe6j
@user-ix4mq9fe6j 23 дня назад
Bayiqhela kakubi IEC why withdrawal now this case should continue let them bring the evidence that they claim to be in their possession what about the reputation of the IEC ? They're running away now wearing temporary shoes
@zakhelemathenjwa1269
@zakhelemathenjwa1269 23 дня назад
Just relax they will show the evidence ❤
@zakhelemathenjwa1269
@zakhelemathenjwa1269 23 дня назад
Lo IEC uyathithiza zolo lokhu bene DA bebechitha isicelo ebesi fakwe Mk enkontolo iMK yenza ubuchule yathi iyalihoxisa icala ngenhloso yalokhu ukuthi benze lokhu esikufunayo ukuthi Liye e court seziyakhala ke manje 😂 sebezifake bona enkantolo 😂😂😂
@jiwwo1799
@jiwwo1799 23 дня назад
Make sure that you listen to the news nd stay updated..an Iec official was arrested for rigging votes scandal, what does that mean to you??, bt anyway ke sesiyokbona kwiCutting Edge 😂
@user-ce4dm8wy2u
@user-ce4dm8wy2u 23 дня назад
Before you leave your stupid comment please open your ears wide...the case is not withdrawn but only the papers that they submitted, they are going to submit again including all parties they IEC robbed.
@user-ce4dm8wy2u
@user-ce4dm8wy2u 23 дня назад
​@@jiwwo1799😂😂😂
@user-hd4hr2yo4l
@user-hd4hr2yo4l 23 дня назад
Who placed it in dustbins and was it legit forms😅
@moragbell
@moragbell 23 дня назад
Yes we want to see the evidence!!
@silaskhalishwayo
@silaskhalishwayo 23 дня назад
Are you living in England 😂😂😂😂we all saw votes stolen and brought back...iec screen showing wrong numbers, and people sent back home without voting 😂😂😂or you act stupid because you hate Zuma 😂
@hawe4090
@hawe4090 21 день назад
Who is this guy...
@johnmills9360
@johnmills9360 23 дня назад
For so long , Jacob Zuma had the SA taxpayer pick up his legal costs , he is surprised that HE has to pay his own legal costs now .
@bonganidumisa1458
@bonganidumisa1458 23 дня назад
You're playing the man instead of the ball
@user-ww5qw8jd3b
@user-ww5qw8jd3b 22 дня назад
Beside legal bill, he's got no evidence
@bonganidumisa1458
@bonganidumisa1458 22 дня назад
@@user-ww5qw8jd3b Mr Evidence, sure you repeat the word even in your sleep 🤣
@bonganidumisa1458
@bonganidumisa1458 22 дня назад
@@user-ww5qw8jd3b Mr Evidence 🤣 can you go beyond "EVIDENCE?"
@user-ww5qw8jd3b
@user-ww5qw8jd3b 22 дня назад
@@bonganidumisa1458 beyond evidence, it is Zuma's monkey tricks as always.
@user-ww5qw8jd3b
@user-ww5qw8jd3b 22 дня назад
Zuma used to rig votes. In 2014 there was vote rigging in Gauteng and EFF was most affected. But Malema didn't cry foul. So, thinks that, there was vote rigging, since he is rigger
@mogauledwaba9629
@mogauledwaba9629 19 дней назад
Mxm this zuma...wen it favour's him he doesnt say anything...always a victim angisho
@user-ww5qw8jd3b
@user-ww5qw8jd3b 19 дней назад
@@mogauledwaba9629 then in 2014, Malema refused to take action. He stated that, there was gonna be blood bath and he accepted and move on. 10yrs later he's in opposition bench he cry foul cos he knows how votes are rigged
@sosmansa5359
@sosmansa5359 23 дня назад
They must not Rush everything is in order
@petrosdlamini1761
@petrosdlamini1761 23 дня назад
😂mk party always ahead of them 😂 now they are playing in the hands of mkhonto.
@AndileNkosi-kf8em
@AndileNkosi-kf8em 22 дня назад
You are so delusional😂😂
@petrosdlamini1761
@petrosdlamini1761 21 день назад
@@AndileNkosi-kf8em 😂 okay let's see
@VirginiaMamogawane-qc4gl
@VirginiaMamogawane-qc4gl 23 дня назад
We as south Africans we are standing with zuma,DA minister of home affairs from Zimbabwe started his nosense in our country
@khanyingosi9229
@khanyingosi9229 23 дня назад
Please don't say as Africans, standing with Zuma,we don't like him don't speak for everyone speak for yourself
@bongekahabe9656
@bongekahabe9656 23 дня назад
So why ningafakkanga minister ye MK kwi home affairs nohlulwe yini pho
@user-hd4hr2yo4l
@user-hd4hr2yo4l 23 дня назад
He not from Zimbabwe n there is legit proof😅
@mogauledwaba9629
@mogauledwaba9629 19 дней назад
U and who
@AndileNkosi-kf8em
@AndileNkosi-kf8em 22 дня назад
You dont withdraw a case when you have concrete evidence as they claimed they did,now they lying to their supporters saying they are fixing the case's technicalities,kudlaliwe ngeylima la
@harley1450ification
@harley1450ification 23 дня назад
A party of Misfits, should be called the Misfit Party.
@bonganidumisa1458
@bonganidumisa1458 23 дня назад
Learn to state the facts instead of labelling political parties. What's your point "sir"?
@ThaboBanger
@ThaboBanger 23 дня назад
I as a member of mk need this to go to court,electoral court my decline the withdrawal.because i want to know who is advising President Zuma or its just a money making skeem for dali mpofu
@senzomemela1311
@senzomemela1311 23 дня назад
Dali Mpofu, has done very well, for MK won 3 cases out of 1...think!!!
@ThaboBanger
@ThaboBanger 23 дня назад
@@senzomemela1311 let him go and defend,boz my problem is mk knows that the courts are against Mkp but they are busy with that instead of focusing on governing kzn
@BrotherM1978
@BrotherM1978 22 дня назад
​@@senzomemela1311 uthini na😂😂😂 He won 3 cases out of 1😂😂😂😂😂
@Zandile-mi3xo
@Zandile-mi3xo 22 дня назад
😂😂😂😂
@mogauledwaba9629
@mogauledwaba9629 19 дней назад
😂😂😂😂
@chiefer1325
@chiefer1325 23 дня назад
MK allegations are sooo serious ...they cant just withdraw
@Technology24
@Technology24 23 дня назад
Ramaphosa is hoping that the MK will refuse but he will be sursprised when the matter goes to court and they get exposed
@davidmkefa4188
@davidmkefa4188 23 дня назад
This is not about Ramaphosa,it is between IEC and Zuma's claims
@Technology24
@Technology24 23 дня назад
@@davidmkefa4188 Nah Ramaphosa you know it is about you playing tricks
@khanyingosi9229
@khanyingosi9229 23 дня назад
Why always Ramaphosa, Ramaphosa? what about the guptas
@khanyingosi9229
@khanyingosi9229 23 дня назад
Absolutely 💯 agreed
@BrotherM1978
@BrotherM1978 23 дня назад
Let them surprise the country by bringing the evidence before surprising Ramaphosa, how about that😂😂😂😂😂
@Cuewill
@Cuewill 23 дня назад
IEC must relax, why the rush
@mogauledwaba9629
@mogauledwaba9629 19 дней назад
Why was mk in a rush to go to court?
@silaskhalishwayo
@silaskhalishwayo 23 дня назад
But we all saw iec incompetence and vote stolen..and people sent back home without voting 😂😂what is free and far about that😂
@roserichmond-nkosi9026
@roserichmond-nkosi9026 23 дня назад
Withdrawal is temporarily. Matter is legal and some aspects found to be criminal. The matter must go back to court. However, if the electoral court wants to dismiss matter by responding by means of a MEMO , then MK must witdraw case. The electorate needs a public transparent court case. MK must take the time to regroup and send matter back to court. IEC cannot be left to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result -thats INSANITY. Nor should it be allowed for electoral court to dismiss case using a memo to MK.
@OkuhleMtilwaKaMjoli
@OkuhleMtilwaKaMjoli 23 дня назад
That's what MK is plaining to do, they said they are withdrawing the Initial application but they are going to submit another one, what is discussed here is not true reflection of what MK said
@BrotherM1978
@BrotherM1978 22 дня назад
That long message and no substance 😂. The Electoral court has not responded on the matter stop with your lies. But Let's say you're right, if the evidence exists and the court decides to rule against MKP, they can always appeal to the higher court. It's precisely because they know they DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE that they want to withdraw. They can't make such serious allegations especially towards such an important institution and not provide evidence. They MUST ACCOUNT...
@giftralefatana1150
@giftralefatana1150 23 дня назад
News channels always speak and make news about MK but it's unethical that it's always in their absence funny the DA is always represented when it's being talked about. I dnt like MK but this can't be ethical journalism
@WilliamPulles
@WilliamPulles 23 дня назад
It’s because there is no person within MK to have an intelligent discussion with. It’s a grouping of morons
@BrotherM1978
@BrotherM1978 23 дня назад
Again it's the media's fault. These guys brought this unto themselves. Their spokesperson kept saying they will provide evidence when they get to court, LET THEM PROVIDE IT OR FACE BEING HUMILIATED FOR LYING TO SOUTH AFRICANS. IT'S TIME POLITICIANS KNOW THAT THEY CAN'T JUST MAKE BASELESS ACCUSATIONS WITHOUT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE. There's nothing unethical here...
@user-gy2vz2or2u
@user-gy2vz2or2u 23 дня назад
That good to hear this rigging of elections
@mogauledwaba9629
@mogauledwaba9629 19 дней назад
Please force them to prove ngeke sizwe ngo zuma nd mk
@BuyaniShezi-ek6ly
@BuyaniShezi-ek6ly 23 дня назад
Who is the guy with big ears, he sound mnqundu-wish
@user-ep2pm9bz5w
@user-ep2pm9bz5w 23 дня назад
😂😂😂😂
@BrotherM1978
@BrotherM1978 23 дня назад
Don't worry who he is, worry about what he is saying...
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