If Arcade1up goes under, what happens to the home arcade community?

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@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

If A1up goes under, will it take home arcading with it?

@lorenzkockaerts 8 месяцев назад

no people that love arcade's still buy oem machien's and build by themself whitout arcade1up the home arcade will survive

@joerubi6249 8 месяцев назад

JDV. Another great video. I believe that the home arcade market will survive even if Arcade1Up doesn't. This could probably put some pressure on other companies to meet demand and/or maybe if possible, A1Up could end up having new owners maybe by later this summer. Only time will tell.

@evilgeniusentertainment 7 месяцев назад

Joe, thank you for watching! Well, I suppose any company that's actively looking for investors is also open to being bought out. Certainly nothing announced of late to make you think A1up's doing gangbusters business right now.....

@ZodWriter 8 месяцев назад

Another great video! We are all thinking it, and it's good to hear you say it! 💥💥👊💥💥

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Thank you Zod, I appreciate that.

@tom11zz884 8 месяцев назад

Arcade1up is a very, small, niche company in the grand scheme of things. If and when they go under, the home arcade community will be just fine

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Well, they're niche when compared to Microsoft or Sony, but in the home arcade scene they're still the big dog... or at least they used to be. I do think the community would survive, but I also think it would hurt it.

@seinerok4072 8 месяцев назад

I think they should do the Iircade route or have a SF Alpha cab I'm sure the community would love that

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

I've been advocating a la carte downloads and/or game packs to A1up for years now. Still doubt it will ever happen, but you never know. And a SF Alpha cab makes a ton of sense... IF they have the license.

@joeyjojojunior4886 8 месяцев назад

The hobby was going on well before A1Up or AtGames hit the scene. We were building our own cabs from kits (or by hand) and messing with Raspberry Pi’s with usb encoders. The hobby isn’t going anywhere.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Agree - it's exposed the hobby to lots more people, which is a good thing.

@robkrasinski6217 8 месяцев назад

And now A1up products gave people with no woodworking skills a product to mod with. And some PCB’s are softmoddable like the Simpsons.

@Victor-it6bv 8 месяцев назад

Arcade1up will go up in value if they stop making them.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Victor, I think that's a great idea for a separate show. For some titles - think STAR WARS, TRON, DRAGONS LAIR - that would for sure happen. Look at BURGER TIME - the price of that cab has done nothing but go up over time.

@carlo1132 8 месяцев назад

Hey JDV, If A1up goes under the cabs should hold or improve in value based on your price paid. Def dont want to see it happen, XL's or Bust, they know what cabs get people excited, if they can spend a few hours on cad/cam and go XL it could be a good year...

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

I tend to agree - it would make existing cabs (especially the rarer titles/one with unique controls) go up in value. It will be very interesting to see if they ditch the Deluxe and go all in on XLs later this year. I def don't think we'll see that happen until the 4th quarter though.

@BingChilling-hr1hh 3 месяца назад

Arcade 1up needs new owners and to clean house. Seems like no one is steering the ship anymore!

@evilgeniusentertainment 3 месяца назад

Someone's steering, but is it into an iceberg?

@MikeS-el6vd 8 месяцев назад

Great and well thought video, JDV. Home arcades are here to stay whether Arcade1Up is around or not. There are so many companies putting them out, but basically Mame cabs. Not sure that’s really what a lot of people really want though.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Hey thanks Mike - glad you got something out of it. I guess we both think that the home arcade scene will survive even if A1up doesn't.

@robkrasinski6217 8 месяцев назад

Well, I guess there’s also arcade cabinet kits that are blank in different sizes. Like GRS. But Arcade1up/Tastemakers is the only company with the good licenses besides New Wave Toys and Numskull. But most NWT products are limited edition and once they sell out you have to overpay on ebay. Maybe Numskull, too. And Arcade1up cabs eventually go out of production as new ones come out. But I don’t see any new cabs coming out from Tastemakers this year so far unless there are a few surprises.

@gothamcityarcade 8 месяцев назад

Good video, EGE.. Arcade1up started the home arcade genre, but there will be others come right behind with better products! There are other products and companies that have failed or disappeared from home console space, but there are chat rooms/ fan groups that are still dedicated to the nostalgia of the products.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

I still love my iiRcade; which they were still around. And I hope the same for A1up.

@sunquestenergyhomesolution96 8 месяцев назад

Home arcade existed before Arcade1up came around but it was a very small niche market (I know because I couldn't afford to be part of it). You had 2 choices then. Buy expensive real arcade machine with one game that needed even more money to maintain. Or buy expensive multicade and spend even more money to customize it. Starting price for a multicade was $1000 for a cabinet, cheap monitor, joystick, buttons and didn't include hardware to play games. Arcade1up created a new market where everyone can afford an arcade machine. So if Arcade1up disappears so does that market.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

That's a legit concern.

@sunquestenergyhomesolution96 8 месяцев назад

@@evilgeniusentertainment all these arcade purists/elitists who bash Arcade1up don't want to admit that before Arcade1up came along their world/market was slowly dying. I've seen the arcade aftermarket explode like an atomic bomb when Arcade1up showed up! They don't realize it would be suicide for their market if their wish for Arcade1up to disappear came true. Many businesses like Glen's GRS business would not take off or last.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Agree 100% - A1up's been great for the hobby. So while I think the hobby would survive, it would definitely be a blow, and could hurt quite a few 3rd party companies to boot.

@baseball_rocks 4 месяца назад

I honestly believe A1U is biding their time. They sell to the retailers. Well...last I checked, Target, Walmart, etc have pages of cabs listed on their sites. I believe that A1U was probably advised to slow things down while they sell out the older models. Once demand exceeds what's available, I'm pretty sure we'll start to see more action from A1U.

@evilgeniusentertainment 4 месяца назад

I hope you're right... but it isn't so much about whether or not they'll keep making Pac-Man, MK, and SF cabs (they will), but whether or not they'll make any new cabs with new titles. It's been a year since any new titles announced, with zero indication any are coming down the line. We might see an XL MK or SF or Class of '81 for X-mas, but that's it. But again, I hope I'm wrong.

@teddyy80 8 месяцев назад

I've asked all over and no one knows how to do this for the arcade1up cab. Is there a way to access the Arcade1up NBA Jam PCB if you plug it into a computer? I ask because I have an extra PCB that was sent to me that's brand new. I really want these things. NBA Hangtime: the full original rosters, NBA Jam Tournament Edition: Jordan, Shaq, Breaking backboard, MK players and others that were removed after version 2, etc. Lastly the full rosters on NBA Jam. I actually only play Hangtime so if you could do anything with that or even better put the MK players, Jordan, Shaq on Hangtime man I would pay for that.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

I think it must be possible, at least for some PCBs, because some people have figured out a way to side-load games. I know that at least the SIMPSONS, OUTRUN, and the 3 pinball games have been hacked into. But that's exactly as much as I know....

@juliohernandez3668 8 месяцев назад

Great video JDV, unfortunately is hard not to think that Arcade1up may go under or completely shift their approach in what they want to sell. I do believe that the hobby will survive no matter what the outcome is. We have insane modders in the community and others like to play the arcades just like they remember growing up. It’s a shame if either A1UP decide to shift or goes under because Arcades is what got people interest in the first place to start the home arcade hobby.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Thank you Julio - totally agree, it would be a shame if they radically shift business models or go under. I really hope they're getting ready to surprise us soon (in a good way that is!)

@JayPase 8 месяцев назад

It's a hopeful possibility that Arcade1UP is going the same route as Porsche and Lamborghini and now even Ferrari when they started to build SUV's in order to financially support their core philosophy of designing, engineering, building, and racing sportscars/supercars etc. If selling and promoting the Infinity game boards means Arcade1UP can stay profitable in the long term and then they bring us the cool classic arcade cabinet re-creations we all want then I'll be happy ☺

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Oh for sure! Again, I don't care if they can make some money off of the those game boards, but not at the expense of what brought them to the dance in the first place. I like your analogy of sports car companies having to make SUVs - I hope you're right!

@saiyanspirits 8 месяцев назад

While it would slow down during a transition period of other companies picking up the slack, people would just get more creative ie, reskins, mods etc while waiting. Personally there are still tons of cabs that I still dont have and if they went out of business I wouldn't love what I have any less🙂

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

And as a couple of other people have pointed out, it might make the cabs you do own more valuable.

@madmrmax 8 месяцев назад

I hope they don't go out of business, but find a way to compete with AtGames. What I am excited about is your new series that you hinted at about re-vamping your existing cabinet! Looking forward to that!

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Yeah, the ALU make-over has been in the works for a while now. Still waiting on a few orders to come in before I start it!

@BiggggyD 8 месяцев назад

Great video Evil Genius, I've been saying this for a month or two now that Arcade1up is done, they'll be moving away from Arcades and will rename the company.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Thanks Biggggy. On one hand, I do understand trying to concentrate on the Deluxe lineup... but on the other, doing so doesn't prevent them from working on different skins, adding features like spectate mode, or fixing long known about bugs. The totality of circumstances paints a grim picture - but one that could be erased with the announcement of a couple of cabs. Time will tell as they say.

@supermetalgamerman5930 8 месяцев назад

If A1up goes under Others will get licenses and put out some cabs I won’t keep rebuying them from anyone unless it’s something with unique controls . I have a bunch of PCs for gaming on top of all the 1ups. I think a lot of people will start grabbing multicades if 1up goes under as well But man how good would they do if they just announce 1 cab Just 1 There’s nothing on the horizon

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Right? If they announced even 1 new cab, I think people would go crazy for it, regardless of title. BUT if it was a truly desired title, say ROBOTRON/SMASH TV, Q*BERT, or SF ALPHA, then the response would be even greater.

@Excaidus-Metal 8 месяцев назад

Just because A1Up is putting the gameboard in a bigger promotion does not exactly mean they are going more in that direction. It could simply be that they are getting desperate to sell those too.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Yeah, that's an interesting point - they might have warehouses full of unsold Infinity's too!

@stupidfathobbit4262 8 месяцев назад

I’d be more interested at the value of the ones we have or plan to get obviously there are so many Pac Man, SF and Mk to go around but what about Tron or Ridge Racer or Frogger or Burgertime or Killer Instinct those ones that are no longer found new do there values increase on the second hand market as a result of the community dwindling or will they loose value since no one would care to own them anymore

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

I thinks that's 100% right - the "niche" cabs like TRON/BT/STAR WARS/DRAGONS LAIR would definitely go up in value because there weren't as many made, and because they are very hard to re-create if you're trying to DIY one. There's so many Pac-Mans I doubt they'd go up in value, at least not for years to come....

@KillerQ 8 месяцев назад

I'll tell you what would happen - the influx of crap arcade cabinets would stop flooding the community. It's a good thing.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Not a fan huh KillerQ?

@ForeverLacey09 8 месяцев назад

The home arcade community has existed well before Arcade 1up. The only thing that Arcade 1up takes with it if it goes under is exposure and accessibility through big box stores.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

That accessibility is their one remaining ace-in-the-hole. But it's also probably what keeps them from making "niche" cabs like ROBOTRON or Q*BERT (and keeps making them do Pac-Man after Pac-Man cabs).

@ForeverLacey09 8 месяцев назад

@@evilgeniusentertainment If you ask me their income is driven by the niche community. They'll stagnate their own market if they keep releasing the same IP's year after year. What they should focus on is a limited run of new titles every year. That could be enough to keep people excited and it would induce a little FOMO.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

That's the catch-22 of being in big box stores - they can't make cabs those stores say no to. And after the flop-zilla that was The Simpson and Blitz, they're not much inclined to go beyond Pac-Man/SF/MK. Yet it's those more "niche" cabs that have to be the focus of A1up if they are to grow/attract new fans (plus keep the ones they have already). They've painted themselves into a very tight corner....

@ForeverLacey09 6 месяцев назад

@@evilgeniusentertainment They could continue rolling out IP's that sell for their big box partners while also doing limited run of titles for the niche market.

@RETROOBLIVION 8 месяцев назад

What happens is the same thing that happened before Arcade 1Up. What did you do before A1Up?

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Not sure that's true - millions of people now aware that they can build a little arcade in their home bar/man-cave. That "audience" is still there, and they're hungry. So I don't think it ever goes back to the way it was before A1up - but can it go even higher w/o them?

@RETROOBLIVION 8 месяцев назад

@@evilgeniusentertainment Only time will tell. Great video!

@waterinthedesert81 8 месяцев назад

If arcade 1up goes under serves them right. Overpriced cabinets that's been out for years Golden Axe needs to be out for $150 new deluxe cabs $350 $400 for XL Cyrus freaking sucks the guys a clown 🤡 running rhe company into the ground the arcade community was here before one up and it'll be here after 1up.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

A1up has not done themselves any favors. Even now, today, you see wild price fluctuations on their products, something I believe hurts them quite a bit. A1up's STAR WARS pinball games is still going for $749 at Kohls - an insane asking price considering the product itself and how long it's been on the market.

@liljazzy4021 8 месяцев назад

I think it’s over. Aside from their missteps on the product level, I think the biggest mistake they made was utilizing RU-vidrs as their marketing department. Once people started realizing what a dumpster fire the “community” actually is, the company couldn’t separate themselves from the nonsense.

@Allen-v1r 4 месяца назад

They are certainly going out of business due to management missteps. Just look at that rediculous marketing campaign right now. They are on borrowed time. I will say that I have bought many cabs these past few weeks in preparation for them going under.

@evilgeniusentertainment 4 месяца назад

They might not go under, but instead simply become a company that makes a Pac-Man arcade cab and an infinity game board. That's probably the best case scenario as it's clear we won't be seeing any new cabs this year.

@MrSteveonbroadway 8 месяцев назад

Arcade could write some of the wrongs they have done with a parts store still.. high profit and make little on shipping each part, plus will give the community the feeling they care. Then they can sell arcades like new wave toys with pre orders and prices that are reasonable.. 1up got too big too fast and it went to there head..

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

They've aggressively avoided some potential profit, haven't they? I cab see why they (perhaps) can't sell different skins due to licensing, but that wouldn't stop them from selling buttons, joysticks, screens, marquees (which they actually used to do), riser extenders, and the rest.

@petermacnab1871 8 месяцев назад

What would Happen to the online leaderboards? Would they be blank and look ugly ? Disappear?

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Great point - if they're like iiRcade, they simply cease to exist.

@Hugocraft 8 месяцев назад

Link to the 19k fox?

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

It should have popped up... but here it is! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gaJ0E8XN57Y.html

@arcadetalk 8 месяцев назад

The community would be better off and they would have more money in their pockets.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Well, that's a fact! BTW, you've been doing great work with all of you ADDAMS FAMILY videos!

@arcadetalk 8 месяцев назад

@@evilgeniusentertainment Thank you so much. I am having fun doing these videos. This is my first vpin and I am having a blast with it.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

You got it man! Vpin is crazy fun - easier the most played video games "system" I use. Keep up the good work!

@19kfox 8 месяцев назад

Appreciate the shoutout bro. 🦊👊🏼

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

You got it brother! Your points can hardly be ignored if you're an A1up fan....

@tron3entertainment 8 месяцев назад

Home arcades will still continue. Just by someone else who does it better.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Well, that's the hope. By in large though, I think A1up's done a good job. Some bad un-forced errors (like button placement on SIMPSONS), as well as the 2 years too late release of Deluxe design has has hurt them, but they do a lot of things right.

@decadentdave 8 месяцев назад

Ironic that a company that calls itself Arcade1up is changing its focus to get out of the “arcade” business and peddle trendy bored game products like Hasbro.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Yeah, the next 6 months will tell whether or not they've abandoned making new arcade products or not. I don't mind the Infinity - it's cool in its own way - but it's not an arcade product in the slightest.

@nellen55 3 месяца назад

northing there thee not arcade collector

@PimpTrigger 8 месяцев назад

No, they can keep releasing deluxe cabs, it will not hurt them. Lots of us has been waiting to purchase the arcade we want, in deluxe versions. I only question why Gauntlet is a three player only when all other four player cabs, have four sets of controls. Only when they have exhausted their current cabs as deluxe versions, should they move forward to new products like Star Wars Pod Racer, Trilogy and Battle Pod. Spyhunter, Hard Drivin/Race Drivin, Teken, After Burner, etc.

@evilgeniusentertainment 8 месяцев назад

Well, I think that's exactly what they plan to do - exhaust those Deluxes before they move on to something else. Heck, they have more then a dozen earlier other non-Deluxes they still need to sell too. But I do think not releasing at least one new cab every six months (at least) hurts them.