I'm a former table games dealer and gambling addict. This is pretty accurate. Even if you play perfect basic strategy the house has a 51% edge to your 49%. And if you try counting the cards to nudge it in your favor by 1% the house will do a back off as soon as they figure it out. They HATE winners.
Yep online it's even worse with backing off. These sport books have algorithms that measure your EV (expected value) . Get too much into +EV and your limited to joke levels of allowed bets (MGM is know for pennies) . This can happen even when your net losing at said book.
Professional card counter can make a tidy sum, but they go from casino to casino to avoid attracting attention, they need to actually be smart (not just think they're smart), and casinos are increasingly employing counter measures even for that.
I used to clean bathrooms in a casino. The amount of people sitting on the throne crying was staggering. And of course they told the toilet cleaner their sob story.
The last 3 years the Trump Taj Mahal was open in Atlantic City, New Jersey they had slot touch screens in every bathroom stall. It sounds like a good idea until you realize how many old people and median age people forgot to flush or wipe for hours. Someone would go to take a dump and notice a giant touch screen that was a digital slot machine. They would keep playing until either they ran out of money, they remembered they were using the toilet, or eventually they would pass out and the Casino would call an ambulance. Las Vegas tried this for a year until they realized they got to get the janitors to clean the screens. The Casino in Atlantic City also forgot to clean the screens. All Trump Casinos were shut down for tax evasion, bathroom cleanliness violations, safety violations, food poisonings, a bed bug problem that went on for 10 years, illegal immigrants used off the books, over 50 different rapes from staff in a span of 3 years, and a few minor incidents. Ironically the 3 Casino’s that are left got bad ratings much smaller situations than all that. Tropicana’s bathroom are surprisingly cleaned once and hour and have neon colored signs to show you where the bathroom is. They never have or will have those touch screens in the bathrooms or in restaurants.
it is depressing how addicting it is. My uncle is a hopeless gambling addict and he ended up selling his company and home, screwing my dad over for tens of thousands on a business deal, blew hundreds of thousands he inherited (an inheritance he also partially stole from my dad), screwed his mom over for tens of thousands, and ended up neglecting his kids even though he was a single dad basically leaving them with no parents or family to depend on which ruined their lives all because he was always chasing that high of winning.
I wouldn't say it's the addiction that's so disgusting, it's that we allow institutions to exist when their whole reason for being is to create and prey upon the addiction.
@@evanbarnes9984 Gambling has been a thing since casinos and gambling dens have been a thing. The institution never created the addiction. People did that themselves, all the institution does was commercialize the experience. You can remove every casino on the planet and you'll still end up with rooms full of people playing games of chances and going broke.
“The Twilight Zone” episode,” The Fever” starring veteran actor Everett Sloan: The “one-armed bandit” keeps calling his name: “Franklin…!!Franklin…!!!”
There's the guy that knows the mathematically correct way to play every possible blackjack hand, and Roger states that the casino still has the advantage, True! It's called basic strategy, and if played perfectly the house has roughly a 05% advantage. They are still going to get your money, It just takes longer. And casinos have time. All it takes to bankrupt you. Then he mentions card counting. That is the ONLY way a player can ever get an advantage on the house, but it requires playing perfect basic strategy, perfect counting, perfect money management, and perfect knowledge of a few deviations. It also takes hundreds of hours and thousands of hands of brain bending play for the math to work out, with painful losing streaks along the way. If you can do that, you're called an "AP" ( Advantage Player ) Casinos don't like APs, because they don't tolerate winners, and when surveillance realizes they have an AP in the house, will invite ( it's not really an "invitation" ) you to leave. As Roger says, many casinos beat APs with continuous shuffle machines, That ruins card counting immediately. Those crystal palaces are not built on winners. They are monuments to losers.
Because of the optical nightmare of kicking patrons out for winning, casinos have developed a new strategy for card counting. First they have the dealers count cards as well, and if they notice advantage playing, they change the way they deal. You won't even notice them doing this because you'll be too busy counting, but needless to say your trick will stop working, and because it's impossible to tell between a losing streak and your advantage just being gone, you'll be there until you lose it all. Because advantage players have extremely high confidence, higher-than-average risk tolerance and usually buy higher-than-average amounts of chips, they'll stick around a lot longer and spent a lot more making the casino a lot of money.
@omegahaxors3306 so what is this new invisible deal you're speaking of? As a counter and a card mechanic, you peaked my interest. I'm aware of mid shoe shuffles, extremely shallow cuts, flat bets, and back offs. But without cheating by dealing seconds or bottom dealing (hard to do in a shoe game), idk of "new deals"
@@moglie431 Shut up, debate dork. Not going to read the rest of your comment if that's what you're leading it with, because in real life you'd be on the floor by then anyway.
I suppose the problem with this mathematical casino geniuses is, if if you have figured out a system you’d need a ton of cash to lose before the profit (might) come in. You’re not going to win every hand, you could lose big for the first hour or two.
I remember the first time I walked through a casino and saw the old folks at the video slots. They all has their player's club cards in the machine with a cord attached to their shirt pocket. It looked like something out of Ray Bradbury. As if the slot machine was powering their pacemaker. They lived as long as they kept playing.
I worked at a casino for about five years. The company treated its employees very well. Between the gambling addicts, the RIDICULOUS rituals of rubbing the machines, and all the old people blowing through their retirement I was done. This video is accurate as can be... Never again.
@@mousermind your comment was 100% irrelevant and unwarranted. Just because you've got a sad life doesn't mean you need to shit on others. Have a 'blessed' day.
@@JustinHuddlestonIsAwesome You do realize that some people actually appreciate and learn from grammar corrections, right? Some people on the internet are using english as a 2nd language, and find this sort of thing useful. You don't have to get your knickers in a twist and shit on anyone who provides a polite grammer correction... especially when their corrections were not directed at you. Also, "Your" should be capitalized when it's at the start of a sentence.
@@robotnoir5299 No. Unless someone is asking for advice or correction it is generally unwarranted when communicating in an unprofessional environment aka, the internet.
My dad gambled at the Luxor when it first opened and he had a good win streak, so they thought he was a millionaire so they gave him free rooms and service for 2 years but he didnt really care about gambling so he took advantage of the free 2 years without pitching a single dime. They figured him out a little bit later but it was already too late and in the end, he actually robbed the casino in the end with pride and i have nothing but respect and an applause for it 😂
@@peepothefrog4331 It‘s not paid by addicts, it‘s paid by the casino. Do you think the casino would have stopped taking addicts‘ life savings if his dad didn‘t use the room?
This is why in Portugal, by law, all casinos here make you sign a waiver before you enter stating in all caps: I hereby agree that financial loss is highly probable with participation in gambling activities. The casino holds no liability against financial loss resulting in gambling activities
Oh yeah.... that happens almost automatically at a Casino. You win some and you wind up staying put. I realized when I was in Vegas how quickly that can become addicting so I stopped myself and went back to my room or out to the Strip to act like a tourist.
Yeah, I'm convinced they make the hotel rooms worse than normal hotel rooms to get you back down to the casino...i just haven't figured out how they're worse.
@@mattm7798 Probably drier AC air, less comfortable beds, chairs, and linen. Allowing of smoking in rooms, lack of proper cleaning so you can smell the regret and loss! Oh, and compact design so instead of feeling spoiled you feel in jail!
I once heard a former professional poker player say "Being a professional poker player is one of the most miserable jobs there is. It's the only job where you can bust your ass for 8 hours a day, making all the right choices and doing everything perfectly with no mistakes, and still end the day with less money than when you started."
Yeah, a professional gambler is just that, a professional. They have to boil a game to it's most basic mathematical facts. That said, good poker players know alot more than just what makes a good hand of poker and when to bet and not to. They have the ability to read people and their tells.
@@mattm7798 To be fair, the context where I heard that quote was when the former professional poker player was giving advice to some friends playing online poker, so reading tells wasn't really a factor. He also mentioned that people who make a living in online poker often play several hands at the same time for efficiency, and the online poker sites are constantly vigilant for people using bots to play an inhuman number of games simultaneously, and those two things came together once in a situation where a poker website sent representatives to a guy's house to confirm that he really was able to play 20 games of poker at once. The response from the reps was basically "Yeah, this guy's got six monitors and is somehow tracking 20 games at once, he's a complete madlad."
Learning "tells" doesn't make you immune from variance. Extreme example, but imagine your opponent is going all-in every hand for $1000 preflop and literally showing you their cards. You see their cards and decide to only call when your hand has at least 70% equity. It's still possible for you to lose 10 all-ins in a row and be down $10k, despite literally seeing your opponent's cards and making the perfect decisions.
Yep. And to stay in that life long enough to see significant gains, they have to be among the best at their stakes, or at least among the people they play (otherwise, nothing else will enable them to make a living off poker), accept losing days like that happen, consistently play bad players, plan out their bankroll to have a big enough safety net, and trust the math to work out in the long term.
Professional poker player here. It’s extremely hard to play poker for a living! It’s odd hours, constant money flowing in and out, and the game continually gets tougher every year. Not only do you have to have the technical skills but also the soft skills that go along with it(emotional control, money management, healthy lifestyle and good game section). It’s really only worth it if you truly love the game and if you make over six figures anything less it is a miserable career.
6:25 Roger: "Play Red 19, you can't lose. Also, verbal contracts are not legally binding contracts in this state, so I can verbally make any BS promise to you. 😆"
I won every time I went to the casino since I was driving the bus. Pick up a group of people, drive 3 hours, then sit back and wait. On the 5 hour layover I would take a little nap, go eat my free buffet, then another nap before loading everyone up for the return. At the end of the day turn in my time for a 12-13 hour day and collect a paycheck.
Gambling is fun; you just need to remember to only spend what you're willing to lose, and know when to walk away. I'm happy to say that I recently took Morongo for $300. Not much in the overall, I know, but I was willing to lose $100 walking in to the place with no other goal than to kill a little bit of time, to let the traffic die down a bit. The previous two times I went into Morongo... Yeah, they took my money fast. Moral of the rambling: With gambling, you're paying for the chance to dream, but you control how much you spend chasing that dream.
Not really. If they're illegal the mafia or some other criminal organization runs them. Then you have to add more deaths and injuries when gambling addicts take loans from them they can't pay back. Plus then all the money goes towards criminals. I'd rather it go to taxes than people who are gonna use it to buy guns to kill their rivals. Making something illegal doesn't stop it if there's a high demand for it. It usually just makes it worse.
I played Roullette a couple of years ago with a buddy of mine and it hit our number 3 times out of 10 spins. On the 3rd hit the manager came over and angrily told the dealer to "go home". She was crying as she walked away. We sat there in shock while the manager took over the table. We immediately left to go cash out while he fumed in anger at not getting the winnings back.
15 years ago I was in Vegas with my GF & Mom and we were browsing the mall in Ceasar's Palace. I was looking at watches, Tag Hauer, and when my Mom asked how much the guy said $3,000. She just about shit. The guy, without skipping a beat said, "watches are just jewelry now, a status symbol. Watches are all completely useless with the advent of cell phones as they are all synched to the atomic clock in Denver." So true brother, so true.
I go to my local casino to watch the horse races. Amazing that only spending $2 every 15 minutes brings joy. Heck, one time I won $18! Maybe I am doing it wrong?
You're supposed to bribe the jockeys to go slow and let the longshot win. This way you can be $10,000 on the 50 to 1 odds horse and make $500,000, pay the jockeys $10,00 each from the payout and go home with the rest.
All money won at Casinos, and lotteries, is from people who have lost money. Personally, I couldn't live with that on my conscience. It would be impossible for me to enjoy a massive win when I would be thinking of all the lives, and families torn apart, and children living in poverty, by gambling addicts who's destruction has funded my win. I don't think it's anything to celebrate. 😞
At 4:37 love how the blackjack dealer is showing BOTH cards apparently a 9 clubs & a 6 clubs while the 3rd player from the dealer takes a card despite having a strong hand of 19 busting receiving a 8 seeing the fact the woman hit on 13 to stand on 18 & the other guy standing on 20. in Horton's Casino the blackjack dealer shows you both cards; well played Mr. Horton the GOAT
Hi! Really love you guys' unique sarcasm and satire in the videos. Just wanna suggest a topic: astrology, horoscopes, tarot, and so on; basically the fortune telling business. Would love to see a vid on that!
I had a policy back when I lived in Biloxi. I would go in with petty cash I was willing to lose. In the event I profited over that amount, I'd pocket the extra. No cards and no tabs. Period. I profitted about $4,000 in several months before work moved me elsewhere. Also, my game was Craps, where you can adjust and take back your wager at your leisure.
Gambling addiction is real, and very painful for many families. I have to say I enjoy playing BlackJack and sometimes a little Roulette, always on vacations, and no more than once a year. I see it as a moderately expensive distraction. I enjoy playing and interacting with other players and dealers. The rare ocasion when I win (or get even) I feel extremely well. The other times, I get up as soon as I lose my allocated budget for the night, say, 100 dollars, with no regrets. I never come back to "turn the tables". I have been doing this for over 40 years. When I read the stories below, I feel like someone who takes huge pleasure from smoking one cigarette a year. Uncommon, but not impossible!
My first trip to Vegas, I went to the MGM Casino wanting to learn craps. For sure, they'd teach me, correct? It was 10am, the casino floor was pretty clear minus foot traffic going through the casino, lots of empty tables with only dealers waiting. So I walked up to a craps table with just me and the dealer, asked how do I play? She said in broken english "first, put down $10". I said "can you show me how to do it first?" "Yes, $10". So I thought lessons for beginners at an empty table was $10--reasonable. So I did. She gave me the dice and said "roll--you win if 7". I got an 8. She slid a circular thing (later discovered as the puck) on the 8. "Roll again". I rolled a 7. "You lost." She grabbed my $10 chip and said "play again? $10". Lesson learned. I walked away. Later that day I did watch a few tutorial videos on how to play it, but craps is one of those games as I was told by a veteran gambler that "you have to play a lot of money (>$1000) to win a lot of money". And anyone that stands by a table--just see how often someone lays down a stack of $100s. No thanks.
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Anyone with a basic understanding of mathematics knows to stay away from casinos. I can see the comments now: "you just don't understand how to count cards", or "well, I won $15,000 on a slot machine!" Now think about how much money you spent to obtain that $15,000 which you most likely lost a few hours later after you went to the blackjack table thinking you somehow beat the casino.
Back in the day, if you could count cards and it was single deck, you may have been actually advantaged over the casino...like the video says tho, casinos rarely if ever offer those conditions any more. The slot machine is different because someone could walk in with $100, and walk out with $10,000. Tho the more likely scenario is they came in hundreds of times with $100 and only left with $10,000 once(and also, any amount over $1200 IIRC you have to report as income)
I was seriously into various forms of gambling for a few years. I actually made a profit because I'm a real math geek and was constantly researching and devising strategies - and because I was able to maintain my self control! But it wasn't worthwhile for the amount of time I put into it. On a per hour basis, it was about half of minimum wage.
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If making money is your goal when visiting a casino then the only game worth playing is poker since you are not playing against the house but against other players. For all other games the casino offers this vid is spot on.
A message of love: If someone confused a bank with a casino, it's a pure coincidence with a high probability that the vast majority of people still believe in the promise that a piece of paper with some number on it, which represents the value of your faith in it
The 'blackjack strategy' guys always kill me. I've seen casinos where they sell those books in their gift shop, which is the ultimate racket. Pay $20 for a book to teach you how to lose your money slightly slower in the same place.
I remember seeing those online ads about how you can win at roulette by just doubling every time you lose and then linking to a specific online casino. One might think that if that strategy actually worked they'd do something against that ad. And who would have even sponsored it if it did work?
@@omegahaxors9-11 It's entertainment. You can spend $300 watching the moronic Blue Man Group, or you can spend $300 at the blackjack table. With the latter, you might walk away with some of your money, or more than what you came in with or with none of it, which is exactly what you'd leave watching the Blue Man Group with. But no one ever complains about shows. Control your gambling. If you can't control it, find another hobby. It's entertainment, not a money making scheme.
Took my son on a vacation to Las Vegas when he was about 10. This was back when Vegas was adding family friendly rides, etc. My son walked through the casino and said, "Mom, no one looks happy like they do in the commercials.". That really stuck with me.
I was at a conference at Reno and went to the casino to see what it was like. I had exactly the same reaction was your son. Not a single person looked like they were having fun. It was completely depressing. I had no desire to stay or ever come back. I also think about how much work it took me to earn my money - I can't stomach the idea of losing it for no good reason .
Going to casino and playing with the minimum is usually a winning move compared to other going-out options. Club is more expensive and concerts are for sure more expensive. After all we work to get money to spend it on things - nothing wrong with casinos, just with some of the customers there
@@eljefemaximo5420 I was doing it with Texas Hold-Em. You can just sit around and never actually get in hands just getting blinded out collecting comp time and free drinks. Granted I was playing Hold-em to win, so sometimes I busted early, but most of the time when I lived in Reno, I would buy in for $120, sit there for a few hours, getting free drinks, using some of the money from the table on a massage, eat my comp meal, then head out sometimes up, sometimes bust. Overall I would say I got my money's worth from the experience.
@@raves8451 Actual card poker is different, because you are not playing against the house, you are playing against the other players. The house makes it's money from the rake. So if you are good you can, in theory, make money.
I once saw a great movie on casinos - in the movie the casino manager was asked by a repoerter, "What is the house edge?" The manager answered, "The casino's edge is that the gambler thinks he is going to beat the odds." This really sums up gambling in a nutshell.
@@bowlinglefty at what point in the video does it say that people losing money there have no responsibility for their loss? It just points at exploitation based on creating addiction
@@tomlxyz The video is full of it. No clocks so you don't know what time it is. (nobody owns a watch or a smart phone). The type of music, flashing lights, free drinks, you name it. The addiction is created by the weakness in the mind of the addicted. It's all blamed on the casino even by your admission. Everyone is free to quit at anytime. No one is tied down and forced to play against their will.
@@bowlingleftyThere’s no _explicit_ force, yes. Obviously no one at a casino is holding a gun to your head or threatening your family or yelling at you or whatever else can be considered explicit. What casinos use are _implicit_ forces to encourage more spending and more playtime. Many of the tricks pointed out by the video are exactly that. Places like those are notorious for their utilization of psychological phenomena. Hell, you can even find parallels in video games that have RNG-based loot as their main reward source. Destiny, Division, World of Warcraft, Borderlands, etc. are good examples.
I can't believe anybody even feels that way about gambling. You DON'T win. The odds are FUCKED. It's the dumbest bet you can make. They don't even make the odds kind of ok to throw money at.
My aunt won 5K on a scratch ticket. It was the worst thing that could have ever happened to her. After that she would gamble away her entire paycheck as soon as she got it, bills be dammed. It was so sad watching my uncle living and dealing with this. He loved her till the end but she distroyed them financially.
That wouldnt work on me. I’m completely against gambling. If I ever won 5k I’d take that money and run with it. The lottery and casinos would never see me again. But for me to win I’d have to gamble in the first place, which I don’t do. It’s an ingenious system that seeks out the exact type of person susceptible to being hooked.
I remember going to a Casino for the first time with my cousin, his girlfriend and two of his friends. I went and played slots with $20, I was still learning the machine when I accidentally pressed Max Bet and it bet $20 (I was at like $22 or something). I ended up hitting I believe it was $240. I didn't change stakes or anything just kept playing. I was happy I won and I paid for dinner for all of us, I made everyone give me $20 so we could tip the server really well and we spent my ticket that was around $250 or so. We go outside after dinner and my cousin who's complaining about being down like $50 says to this guy standing in the heated smoking area (that's how much money they have, heated smoking areas lol) "Hey man you winning tonight?" and the guy said "Down a bit" while staring aimlessly at the floor. My cousin said "How much? I'm down $50 I'm pissed". He shouldn't have asked that but he was drinking so his filter wasn't exactly there and the guy didn't even look up and said quietly "12 or 13 thousand". You could hear a pin drop. He looked like he was a defeated man who was gonna go home and tell his wife he lost the house. You could tell it was a lot to him. My cousin never mentioned that $50 he lost again.
As a former club host, even 13k is NOTHING. Nothing. I regularly saw 6 digit losses, and a large cluster of 7 figures each night. It was insane. The stories I could tell
I worked overnight maintenance at a casino. And this is so accurate except the fact no one OFFICIALLY dies at the casino. They die in ambulance just off property
I get your point. But I have done ambulance work. Nobody dies in an ambulance, they die at the hospital. Even if the patient is unresponsive with no heartbeat and has totally bled out, we will continue doing some kind of care so the patient will officially die at the hospital.
I was born and raised in Nevada, spending much of my childhood surrounded by flashy slot machines, free buffets, & cocktail waitresses, and let me tell you: this video is 100% true.
Same. In my rural city, there was no question about if gambling should be legal and if it was morally sound. It paid for our programs and reduced taxes, and it was all on the backs of the slot zombies.
@@Neuroburger At least when I grew up around there, Boomtown was still around. Although Nevada has been getting to be a lot more kid friendly, with kid friendly places to leave your kids while you gamble. Boomtown had a massive arcade, and it was a popular place to go to birthday parties. The casinos really knew how to hook us at a young age.
When I was 21 I went to Vegas, I remember losing quite a lot in one casino in particular, over the space of hours but the moment I actually won something they wanted to see ID.
They were probably preparing to ban you. They are legally required to ID you to give you chips. Past that they ask for ID so they can add you to a list. Never give the casino your ID at that stage. Call the police.
I always liked my dad's system. He viewed gambling like paying for entertainment, like a theme park or a movie. His money to spend went in his right pocket. His winnings went in his left pocket. When his right pocket was empty, he cashed out. I personally don't gamble unless I'm gifted a scratch off. Any winnings I keep. That's *my* system. Never went bust yet!
Tbh being gifted a scratch off ticket is like the worst gift you can give someone. Like seriously, buy me a box of Mac and cheese if you're going to be that way.
I went gambling in a casino once with friends when i turned 21. The moment i was up 400 ie double what i started with, i cashed out and warched my friends continue playing for hours like a lame'o. At least i made money and i never gambled again.
I have rarely gambled but my mom was an addict and would spend 1000 to win 400 and consider it a win. I've personally have over 1600 in actual winnings do to the fact I never gamble and got lucky the few times I did biggest payout 500 bucks most scratch tickets were in bday cards but the fast play with my last dollar did get me my 500. Glad I don't enjoy the habit.
The worst thing that can happen to someone is for them to walk into a casino for the first time and win a jackpot. Boom they are ruined for life. I don't gamble because I'm not stupid, but anybody can become addicted if they play enough times.
I gamble in casinos and also play the horses. This ad is really true. Unlike most gamblers I keep records on every event or day I gamble. Like Roger says you will win sometimes, after all we have to make you feel like it’s possible. But every year when I add up my win and losses I usually have a loss for the year. While I gamble regularly I don’t over do it and if I win a reasonable amount I quit and go home. Same thing if I have a loosing day, I set loss limits and if I hit that number I quit and go home. So if you enjoy the Roger Casino experience just budget a certain amount of money you are willing to lose and enjoy the experience and maybe on some days you will win enough to fell good about it! See you next time sucker.
I was with a friend at an event at Atlantic City - he wasn't gambling. When someone asked him why he wasn't he responded "because I know how math works". He is a smart man.
The times I gamble I set a budget and expect to lose all of it. Makes it feel real nice when I actually leave with more money than I came in and I don't lose more than I'm willing to. Of course, I don't have the personality where I want "just one more hand, one more spin, one more pull of the lever." I see it the same as getting ripped off buying cheap tourist crap when on vacation, it's a part of the experience.
Well, you can work as a dealer in a casino and make money in tokes and hourly pay. My profession is table games dealer. If you don't have the money to own a casino, some casinos have stock that can be bought. I sold stock with the " LVS " ticker and made a profit.
You could easily do this. Caesar's Entertainment and MGM Resorts trade on the Nasdaq and NYSE respectively. There are others as well, but those are the two biggest. They've been on a bit of a roller coaster the last five years, but still safer than going into one of their casinos.
My dad invested in a casino in Iowa, and left it to me when he died. I wanted out, but the way the ownership was set up, everyone in the partnership had to sell or no one did. Thankfully the business sold to a Las Vegas company and we all made a lot of money, but it still feels a little, um, weird. (Not enough to not keep the money, but enough to feel like I hurt someone in the process.)
My grandma was addicted to gambling. Lost all of her savings, home and health. Once she was on social security she’d pay her rent and gamble the rest. The shuttles from old folks homes to the casinos should be illegal.
Absolutely ! Where I live (Adelaide, South Australia) it is slot machines. Everywhere ! Where the pubs & clubs had bands & dances, there are now machines. (AC/DC started playing gigs at our local pub) If you want to get out of the house for a break, the only thing to do is go play the slots. There's nothing else ! And think about it, if you or I started a website, that contained an electronic game or not, and stated: "deposit $0.50 to $5.00 (is the range here); you *might* win $50 - $5,000; you might not," we would be charged with running a scam.
My grandparents looked forward to their bus trips to Atlantic City. They saw people, entertainment, good food, and felt more alive than sitting around reading the newspaper or watching tv. They did nickel slots, and were happy when they won $10, and weren’t upset if they lost $50. Worth it for the day out having fun. It’s only when people spend past their “comfortable loss amount” that things go south. For me, my limit was $20. I didn’t mind losing $20 at a casino, but not a cent more. Lost it in 20 seconds at a roulette table on a single spin - then went on with the rest of my weekend, not gambling. (The hotel stay, meals, and shows however… well, that was over $1,000 “lost”. But vacations with good food and entertainment aren’t free!)
@@stephen3164 We had the same system here for a while, it was all quite wholesome & a bit of (relatively) harmless fun. But the system turned up the heat, slowly and steadily. Our pensioners used to go to those towns on the border of a state. But then slots (pokies or cardies we call them) were legalized, and over a period of about 25 years, the machines got hungrier & hungrier, more crafty & addictive, people threw all their budgets at these horrible machines that just took, & took, and took. And everything that Roger says: no windows, no clocks, somnambulistic muzak, not even the nibbles & drinks anymore (after covid).
I remember when I went to Vegas, I went to play a game of BlackJack, paid 25 dollars for a game, and wound up winning triple my money back. As soon as I got the chips, the Dealer looked at me and said “you should leave the table right now and cash that in”. And I wound up doing exactly that.
@@mattm7798I'm security as well and in the past 2 weeks I had to deal with a murderer hiding from the cops there, a s**ual assualt, regular assualt, drug use, an OD, someone with mental illness screaming about how we stole her baby, and an attempted robbery. The people trying to borrow money from us is super common (once a month or more). I had a relatively good looking 19 year old girl offer me uhh adult favours if I told her how to win on a slot machine. People always ask "Where are the lucky machines" I say every time "Well the ATMs pay out the most". What really makes me cry is seeing the grandmothers dragging in their 18 year old grandchild and telling them how to "win" a slot machine or when 18 year olds "win" an easy $750 and leave thinking "Damn I could do this all the time" knowing full well I'll be signing them up for the SE program in about a month
@@chrisantoniou4366 Nah I'm Canadian and work at a relatively good casino (the average age of our clients has got to be 50) this was a very busy week for us.
@@thecommunistdoggo1008 Your casino sounds like fun. I'm also security and I think the most exciting things that happened this week were: I had a medical for mild anaphylaxis and a restriction violation from a very cooperative and polite meth head.
They remember the wins more than the losses. My Dad wasted a ton on scratch off tickets. He can rattle off a list of times he won a few hundred dollars and he even got 15 grand once. But he was spending around $200 a week on tickets at the peak and if he wins he spends some of the winnings again immediately. Probably spent 4 to 5 times as much as his lifetime winnings, conservatively.
Every time my friends or coworkers invite me to the casino I just say "Sure, I'll go. If you give me some money to gamble with then I will go. Obviously I care enough about my own money not to gamble it away." Surprisingly it actually works sometimes. I had a friend give me 50 bucks to come with her. Naturally I lost all of it, but at least it wasn't my money. 😅
The only times I have "gambled" is with other folks' money. Said the same thing... if you give me some cash to play with, I will join you...😂 it's not my thing, though. I am glad for that.
I used to deal cards professionally at a California Casino. Gambling rots peoples personalities even more intensely than hardcore drug use. People lose all their integrity, honesty, kindness and become pathetic opportunists with no self-control...it was soul-crushing to see
As someone who's becoming chemically dependent on a few drugs I'll tell you _psychological_ addiction is worse than any drug. You can quit a drug and the worst of the withdraws will be gone in days, maybe weeks, but that psychological addiction never really leaves. Even many AA, NA, or similar groups will tell you its not so much the addiction thats hard to fix so much as its the reason that person became addicted since typically people abuse drugs due to something wrong in their lives. If you're drinking due to stress and become an alcoholic you can kick the booze and have it out of your system after awhile but if you cant figure out how to solve the psychological addicition and figure out how to cope with stress effectively without booze then every time you get stressed you're going to feel that need to drink. With gambling though there is no drug they're addicted to though, it's pure psychological addiction.
@@arthas640That's conflating different things. The psychological aspect is much more varied and complex than that. I also wouldn't pay much attention to groups like AA. They're designed to turn their meetings into a new crutch and they lie to people about addiction.
@@arthas640Yep, as an addict (not using) I always say addiction is like a weed (not cannabis, but regular weed) because if you just quit your addiction and don't figure out the underlying reasons you started using, that's like cutting a weed from the stem and not the roots, so it will grow back even throught concrete. The weed is the addicition in itself and the roots are the underlying issues, that caused you to use/gamble/whatever your addiction is.
I lived in Nevada and saw first hand the consequences of addictions. There was no escape from it in that state, there were billboards, commercials, the most prominent buildings were casinos, many formal events were hosted in the resorts. If you're going to live by a casino make sure you enjoy the tax cuts by never gambling.
I work in a casino. There's no better way to stir you away from the urge to gamble, than to work in such an establishment. The same people, the amount of money they lose, their sob stories afterwards, the way they can't sleep at night cause they think of all the money they lost, but you see them again the next day. Lately, the amount of young people that come is particularly worrying. Remember, you'll never win in the long run. And also, casinos get particularly busy when the economy is bad, and now casinos are especially busy.
My brother worked for a big liquor company. He said when times are bad, their most expensive brands do very well. People will splurge for a luxury when they are down, so they will buy a $200 bottle of tequila rather than face their grim reality.
@@smiddywesson2703 It's exactly like that and it boggles my mind how both gambling and alcohol are legal when they're the leading factor to so many people ruining their lives...
@@smiddywesson2703 nothing wrong with that. I have a box of Cuban Cohibas for when things are either 1)amazingly good or 2)horribly bad. I'm the same way with my high end scotch...the stuff is either for tremendous victories or a stage 4 cancer diagnosis. No different than when someone gets the death penalty and gets one last meal, or in front of the shooting squad with their final cigarette.
What surprised me tho is building a casino isn't a money printing factory. There are plenty of casinos that do lose money, not necessary from people winning tho lol
@@mattm7798 Depends on the a area (Atlantic City is a loser). Las Vegas casinos generally make money. Occasionally they run into problems with extravagant projects (non casino related) that cause them to lose money, but generally if the management knows what they are doing, they can make money. Speaking of extravagant projects, time will tell if this Sphere set to open in a few months will generate any money. It may be the casino has to subsidize it.
Reason why I truly admire General Lazaro Cardenas. "No gambling. Casinos shall be illegal. We need to take people out of their poverties, not keep them trapped in them."
In this digital age, the slot machines operate off a card rather than coins. That card lets the casino track your gambling habits, so when you've lost enough that you would normally quit, they get an alert and send a complimentary drink or a ticket to a show to get you to stay, and lose more.
@@stevecooper7883 That's highly unlikely, they do actually have legal rules for gambling... Especially for anything fully automated. It's also just not worth it in general for a casino, they'll always win in the end anyway. I think everyone forgets that for every "I won $10,000" there is an equal "Oh my god I've lost my entire life savings!".
Nope the RNG is just set to a return % example if the machine is set to 90% return it'll win 10 cents put of every dollar in the long run or entire lifespan of the machine there's no set amount or how frequent that would be unnecessary
Worked surveillance for a casino in northern WI, I've seen someone go from up 5K on the blackjack table to losing it all and going to check-cashing to get three 1K cash advances from his credit card... and lost that all too. The way they kept sending free drinks his way when he was winning was almost criminal. Apparently drunk players are not as good at playing as sober ones.
@@JeremiahLOsborne Here in Germany it's illegal to consume alcohol in a gambling arcade, casinos are however allowed to serve alcohol, but when you're drunk you're actually not allowed to even enter either a gambling arcade or a casino and the staff has to make sure that drunk people don't gamble there. Gambling is more heavily regulated here than it's in the US, considering that even claw machines and ticket games are considered gambling.
I worked at a casino installing new entertainment systems. While there i saw people relieving themself at the machines and not miss a beat, people being stretchered out and one man even jumped off the top story of the parking garage. This video is very accurate.
You know that jackpot is like two spins away, you can't stop now or somebody else will get it. Then all the money you spent will have been for nothing. You've been here 6 hours, the machine HAS to pay out eventually and you're probably so close!
Worked surveillance at a little casino in the middle of nowhere. Had this guy come in to the blackjack tables and stick around for nearly 2 hours. Manager on Duty told us to go back and verify how many times he'd hit the ATM. 6 times. After a few more minutes he went to the ATM again, and the MOD asked him to go to the office. They talked for a while, and we listened in. MOD identified the guy had a gambling problem: He was down $18,000. Worried the guy might not even be gambling with his own money at this point, the MOD requested he would leave. Guy tried to beg for a line of credit before they told him if he didn't leave, they would trespass him. I still think of that guy to this day and hope he got help.
@@frankpinmtl: NJ gaming commission intern during college years. Well ahead of his 'Art of the Deal' years; long before he overbid for Taj Mahal against Merv Griffin.
The most simple and effective argument is "If any gamblers actually made money here, how is this casino not only in business but can afford lavish decorations, free food, comping you alcohol, and free rooms for high rollers?" Past that it's statistically impossible for you to win if you play a lot. Every game has greater than 50% for the house and the law of large numbers kicks in as you play more games. You're literally more and more likely to lose money the more you play.
this gets amplified by the fact that people will eventually start doubling down regardless on if they are winning or losing. On a winning streak, double your bet and quadruple that money. Losing, double your bet and make it back. Either way it just accelerates how fast/much money you will lose.
Like the movie casino, stated. You will never beat the house, cause. Your money and your pockets aren't deep and long enough. Not deeper or longer than the casinos.
My uncle used to help promote a shuttle service that would take seniors down to a casino out near San Diego. Basically his job was to fill seats on the bus, and he made decent money on that gig. But one day, a man approached him and told him what had happened to his family. His retired father, who was a regular passenger on the shuttle, had become a gambling addict and ruined his finances, as well as the credit of his adult children. The guilt ate at my uncle and he ended up quitting.
I worked as a Club Host for one of (if not that very casino) and let me tell you, they got off easy. I heard a story that ended in a double suicide. Two generations lost between a grandfather and son. And that was just one of many over 6 months. It's a terrible business when it goes unnoticed
its fine the boomers monopolized and pissed away our future why should i feel bad about them gambling theirs away? we need more gambling aimed specifically at that generation lmao.
You'll be competing with major banks and men like Warren Buffet who've got advanced algorithms and teams of analysts at their disposal, but you've got an even chance of winning.
The stock market is totally different they don't have any bright distracting lights ( electronic stock ticker) or pavlovian anticipation manipulation tools (like a starting 🔔) oh... wait they do. Never mind!
i was playing blackjack next to a guy wearing a hat that had a fake dog turd on the top. It read sh#@head. He made a pass at the dealer. She said "no thanks ive had all the sh#@heads i want for a life time"
What’s worse is their not legally required to pay you if you hit the jackpot on the slots 🤦🏾♂️ the couple cases I’ve seen of this were deemed a “machine malfunction” by the casino staff and they won in court
I've always hated casinos. Been called a lot of not nice things because of that. TY for the validation. Next time I'm told I'm weird because I don't want to go to the boat I'm going to show that person this video.
I work in a casino and I hate them. I never would set foot in one outside of my working hours. Although they would be better if they didn't allow smoking (I live in Las Vegas). Luckily I don't have to be on the floor the whole time. Smokers are obnoxious who think it's socially acceptable to throw lit cigarettes on the floor or let their smoke go in your direction.
I've always hated them also.. never been called not nice things for it though. Probably because I only hang with people that get it. Maybe change your social circle?
I remember when the largest casino on the East Coast opened. I went in one day bought $40 worth of $1 tokens and sat down at one of the slot machines. After a couple of hours I had three and a half cups full of token but I remember it really didn't seem like real money because they were only tokens. I kept playing until I was down to one and a half cups and decided to leave. When I cashed them in I had over a hundred and thirty dollars then realized that if I had left with the three and a half cups I'd had over $800. Never went back after that.
Swallowing your pride and leaving when you're ahead is the only way to really beat a casino. But they are masters at making you stay as long as possible.
Literally what happened to me.i went in with 5 bucks. I kept winning roulette, beginners luck or something, because I was just randomly picking spots and boom, winning every time! I got up to about $120 and moved on to a different game, the slots! Immediately lost $20....but figured I'm up a hundred, let me play all of it....I won $1000....but for some reason, it didn't seem like real money, it seemed like game points because it was digital.i kept playing,lowering my wage to a dollar, lost a bit but won more til I was up to 1500....so genius me, decided to play max wager....I was playing for about a half hour and still around 1500.... When all of a sudden I started losing. Over and over. Lowered the wage, and still lost!!! I lost every roll for the next 50 slots!!!! So I cashed out at 450 and left! It felt so rigged, I will never do slots again but I'll def do roulette occasionally with 5 bucks!
Can confirm, I used to work at a casino and we had old folks just die at the slot machines. Many of them wore adult diapers and theyd shit and piss themselves too. Crazy 'good luck' rituals like bringing their chips in the bathroom and splashing piss on them (im not joking). People of ages between 30-85 (they dont last much longer than that) just blowing all of their retirement and life savings chasing the 1 big win after 20 straight losses. Leaving their kids in hot cars in the parking lot for hours only to be arrested for child abuse and then back at the casino a few months later. Stay away.