If Full Frame is THIS SMALL do we still need crop sensors? 

Why are we still enslaved to the mental concept of 'Full-Frame'? Most people taking up the hobby these days with digital kit may never have used film, and so won't actually know where the history of 'full-frame' came from (36x24mm 35mm film frame). And lenses.... We have for example, a 12mm lens, and then have to 'convert' it to a 35mm equivalent focal length which will vary, depending on the format it's used on.

Seems like a really good option to carry into dark places to shoot stars? Is it sealed?

I think that Sony A7C, A7CII and A7CR is the most compact Cameras for what you get, the Sigma fp and fpL without an EVF is only a tiny bit smaller than the Sony Cameras which have EVF, for the Sony system there is so many Lenses to choose from and play with that it is a joy.

Hi Emily, I really enjoyed your video. This camera is a real contender for me, as is the Sony A7c and Fujifilm xe4, and the high, second-hand prices for these cameras bear testament to the interest in small, rangefinder-style cameras. If the FPL had a hotshoe and an EVF that matched is size, maybe in the same wat that Leica does it, I'd be in.

When are they going to upgrade it?? Will be getting the FP Mk2 when released!

Yes I think outside of primes it suddenly becomes very unruly!!!

Which Olympus if I may ask..?

@@ericpiepersI have an OM Systems OM5. I also use the original Olympus OMD-EM5.

@@Forthejoyofphotographythe original EM5 & EM1 are such a jewel~

Yessss small m43 is what is needed for sure!

I agree MFT needs both a G9mk2 or OM1 and a small camera like GX9 OM10 First one being in good Balance with telel enses like PL 200mm2.8 the 100-400 etc... The camera bodies aren't that small but the lenses are.... Especially compared to the HUGH and expensive Full Frame lenses (Agree there are Compromises but that is with every system) Latter for being small and conspicuous essy to sneak in a small bag with some primes.... So no offence (not meant personally) but in politics there's a saying: "It's the economy stupid!" In the camera world one could say: "It's all about the lense (size) stupid!"😉 So to answer the question: YES we do still need crop sensor cameras 🤗📷

@@PeterVlutters haha we definitely do, I'd be out at a job if we didn't 🤣 new GX line pleeaaasseee Lumix

@@MicroFourNerds 😅🍻

Totally agree. I have a suspicion that if Panasonic updated the GX9 with the G9 mkII sensor and phase detect focusing, with an EVF and grip similar to the GX8, they would be onto a winner.

Came here to say exactly this, cropping absolutely does not equal the same thing as changing focal length and nothing you can do to it in software can change that.

Exactly, you buy a 61M camera and degrade it to an APSC or 1” camera with cropping. Noise performance and DoF degrades along with cropping. For image quality megapixels are not as significant as the total amount of light captured for a photo, cropped or uncropped.

Such a great feature! That needs to be implemented by other camera makers!

Now with the a7cii the ibis is a lot better. I had the original and hated the horrible ibis, or lack there of. Curious about the mark ii

Sony WR sealing is about the worst in the industry - check years of dpreview articles on that subject - so a killer for my outdoors, all weather usage. Pity.

You can do that in seconds post-processing

Your review is prefect tbh 😂 It's bizarre and wildly impractical, but I still really enjoyed using it for sure!

You will never shoot anything good with Sony, it’s just an enticement for the naive when the camera seems to have everything). With fp I shoot with different optics and don’t experience any problems, including working with 150-600 DG DN Sport OS, it’s not a matter of size, but modularity and the end result...

The Sigma contemporary L mount lenses are compact and light. I also use a very small M mount Leica 35mm

Yes that's the way I think, the shadows are super forgiving in cinema dng. It was quite light on my machine, but I'm not too familiar with Davinci so that was a bit of a learning curve! I usually use final cut which doesn't support cinema dng

Panasonic certainly has the experience and background to produce a small capable rangefinder-style camera. I'm hoping for an A7CII competitor. Would snatch that up in an instant.

Very nice lens, really pleasing bokeh. Only downside is it is manual focus only. It's super cheap too! Well worth a punt

No, it's still fully weather sealed.

Lumix s5ii and one of their prime lenses... the 35 1.8 I think

I was referring to my findings in a previous video inshould have been clearer. Specifically for recipe/photo profile bracketing. On fuji if you choose the bracketing option you'll get 3 different jpeg recipes but no raw file. On this sigma you get 5 different style jpegs and the raw file as well.

I meant in the recipe bracketing mode. I should have explained it clearer. The bracketing mode gives you a selection of filtered jpegs and no raw file on Fuji, whereas on this sigma you get the jpegs plus the raw file

It was the s5ii and the 35mm 1.8 prime

I really rate the sigma primes, I obviously love that they're tiny, but the image quality is superb as well! I remember getting a free one with my original s5 purchase ages ago as an early adopter offer and it really blew me away. Was so nice to try the full set again with this review

@@MicroFourNerds Your video was very balanced and fair. Yes, the electronic shutter is the other big negative. I shot a live band and there pictures from the soundcheck were superb, but all the shots from the show (LED lighting) were heavily banded and unusable. For daytime photography the FP is superb however.

I mean in the bracketing mode specifically. On the XF10 there's a bracketing mode very much like the one on this sigma where it'll take 3 jpegs with different recipes, but it doesn't give you the raw file in that mode. The sigma comparitively gives you 5 different jpegs plus the original raw file

@@MicroFourNerds - yeah, That makes sense. i have an XF10 and it is both great and annoying in equal measures. So close to being perfect but not quite there...... still, paid pennies for it 2 years ago and love the pics i get when the stars align. much lower hit rate than the XT2

The reduced mount flange distance on L mount only gives flexibility in lens design - it doesn't mandate a higher ray angle or closer lens elements. Many old film non-retrofocus wideangle lenses have rear lens elements that stick inwards past the mount flange, almost touching the film in some cases. In fact, film is much less sensitive to high ray angles, so those older non-retrofocus wideangle lenses don't always perform as well in the corners on digital sensors as they did on film. The stack height of the sensor and the microlenses on it have an impact on how well the lenses work. Modern lenses designed for use on digital take the ray angle issue into account in their designs, and minimize the problem. The short flange to sensor distance gives a number of benefits. It leaves more room on native lenses for the focus motor, aperture mechanism, and all the other things that need to be packed in there. And it also allows for nearly any legacy lens mount to be adapted and allow for infinity focus. Leica M mount and M39 LTM thread mount, Contax/Nikon rangefinder bayonet mount, M42 and T thread mounts, Pentax K mount, Nikon F mount, Canon FD Mount, and others can all be easily adapted with more or less full functionality other than auto diaphragm stop down on shutter trigger. Even Contax G lenses can be made useable with an adapter that allows for diaphragm control. That's where the short flange distance really comes in handy. It also helps keep the body size down. All the space behind the sensor is needed for the image sensor circuitry, heat dissipation, etc. that wasn't needed on film cameras. So that can only be reduced so much. But with no mirror on the front of the sensor, the flange can be made very close.

No weather sealing unfortunately!