If War Thunder's Strv 103 Was Historically Accurate

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I didn't think there would be enough info to make a historically accurate video, but I was wrong. The Stridsvagn 103 or Strv 103 was a Swedish main battle tank with an unconventional design. The armament was stationary to reduce the vehicle's height and the complexity of the autoloader system. Aiming was accomplished by turning the entire vehicle and adjusting the suspension. It was a fairly successful tank, though expensive to procure.
Sources:
S-Tank in Ten Minutes with Stefan Karlsson
Jane's Armour and Artillery 1998-99
Armor: March-April 1968
Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Strv 103C
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@ZETH_27 Год назад

It should also be noted that not only were the engines separate, their transmissions were as well. If you shot up one side of the engine-compartment, the other side was still functional and driveable.

@adriancoric1721 Год назад

I fucking wish they would add that feature I mean it can't be that bad or op ? I remember when they allowed the 103 to move left and right with either tracks or engines destroyed and it got removed...

@pz.vincesiqueiros7185 Год назад

@@adriancoric1721 wdym, my strv 103 still pivots when both tracks are gone

@fussia2568 Год назад

@@pz.vincesiqueiros7185 you can`t do a shit when your tracks are gone

@pz.vincesiqueiros7185 Год назад

@@fussia2568 I'll test it today in against a bot but I remember being able to pivot in aim mode if you got 2x tracked.

@adriancoric1721 Год назад

@@pz.vincesiqueiros7185 if one track is out you can still aim but really slowly, both tracks gone or engine and transmission destroyed, you can't turn left and right you can only aim up and down. So basically if you get immobilised you're dead like 80% of the time

@ryanlannon8365 Год назад

Would be neat if some tanks did get illumination rounds for lower tier night battles

@WoWmakerWT Год назад

Yeah, 100500 useless mechanics and no light rockets.

@lucasmoreno2154 Год назад

@@WoWmakerWT lmao thats true

@forkbeater8763 Год назад

Please no, don't make me research illumination rounds and be able to get a night battle at like 3.7

@VarenvelDarakus Год назад

night maps is one of reasons i stopped playing , and that sometimes you were forced to play same map , same night map 3 times in a row

@drytishuuz Год назад

less night matches, both low and high tier thanks

@FeintMotion Год назад

If it was an Australian design you could call it Wedgemite

@_TheDarkOne2773_ Год назад

...... un-respectfully piss off

@thisguyyyyyyy2723 Год назад

Shut

@richardmillhousenixon Год назад

Get out

@carlmikell2292 Год назад

Slow clapping.

@jamesedwardladislazerrudo1378 Год назад

Meh

@ideadlift20kg83 Год назад

Also, the aiming was smooth AF compared to in-game

@kh5736 Год назад

The jittering that came after they "fixed/remodeled" the aiming after the german 2gun tank is just driving me nuts i hate to play the strv now as it just doesn't aim properly

@kiri101 Год назад

@@robertharris6092 God I hate that so much. It makes not having a stabilizer even more punishing.

@jamesedwardladislazerrudo1378 Год назад

@@kiri101 Maybe gaijin having their job to be not good developers

@divinehatred6021 Год назад

@@kiri101 i still remember the times when no one had a stab XD

@ThePadadada Год назад

drove one ?

@TheChieftain1117 Год назад

0:05 I'm assuming you meant "one round every 3 seconds", not "3 rounds per second"?

@kosa8350 Год назад

nah man, its an autocannon (yes)

@TheChieftain1117 Год назад

@@kosa8350 is this the tank machine gun Spooksytun was talking about???

@einar8019 Год назад

also its closer to 2.5s

@darnit1944 Год назад

3 rounds per second means 180 rounds per minute. That thing would fire faster than thr 40mm Bofors

@Rojek-ls3dl Год назад

50 BMG Machine Gun? Hah, that lame Swedish have 105mm Machine Gun

@WarguyPlayz Год назад

"So purchase and repair costs are higher than more conventional tanks." Accurately describing the Swedish tech tree with that one.

@fleayou2840 Год назад

I feel the 2 engine thing would be cool where if it gets hit you can still move but a lot slower

@richardwhiterose5655 Год назад

German VT-1-2 still can turn after engine is out and with the same turn rate as usual, which is crazy. Also the hull aiming is so much better the on s-tanks.

@bias_remover7229 Год назад

Great video! Just short, at 0:05 I guess it should be 1 round every 3 seconds? Even though the idea of an 105 with 180 rpm is hilarious.

@TheSchultinator Год назад

I read that as 'rounds per minute' the first time! XD

@comradekatyusha5124 Год назад

As a Swedish person im glad you made this spookston

@L0K0M0T1V Год назад

@@velaikka ejjjj, och fan vad war thunder är så jävla kuuul

@okiman6169 Год назад

@@velaikka håller helt med

@elllpe6426 Год назад

Me to

@DragonnRider Год назад

worst country on earth

@comradekatyusha5124 Год назад

@@L0K0M0T1V Ja såklart, men vi måste spränga borås

@LilKittyKat-C Год назад

Major things that need to be improved in the Strv 103 in game: Two engines rather than one; Loader can load rounds after breech is either damaged or 'destroyed'; Jerry cans have a chance of defusing HEATFS; 103Cs fence having a chance of destabilizing kinetic rounds.

@ancaplanaoriginal5303 Год назад

IIRC the M4A2 doesn't have the engines separated either

@TheGrace020 Год назад

@@ancaplanaoriginal5303 Time for Gaijin to get off their ass and fix it then!

@dyiie4946 Год назад

I personally think that these unreliable mechanics with a chance to work won't improve the gameplay so the fence should get certain protection modifier against apfsds instead (that's for jerrycans too). Autoloader can't be destroyed in any way and let's keep it the way it is (and if gaijin adds autoloader destruction then do it for russians too i dare you gaijin). I'd love to get more dampening when hull aiming is active though.

@Thekilleroftanks Год назад

also fixing its aiming. oh wait they did that. three different fucking times. .-.

@desserted5446 Год назад

Loader can load breech even if damaged? This thing can operate on one crew, enough with the survability bullshit

@khajaja Год назад

The Strv 103D would be great to have in war thunder, hope the snail adds it one day

@coltpiecemaker Год назад

Given that it is a prototype, it wouldn't surprise me if Gaijin add it as a premium/event vehicle.

@calobster6029 Год назад

The 103D looks like a Phlydaily thumbnail

@khajaja Год назад

@@coltpiecemaker i really hope not, but i guess better then nothing. The strv 103 was always held back by a lack of ERA and thermals IMO so the D would be a perfect capstone for one of my favorite tank lines.

@adriancoric1721 Год назад

@@khajaja I agree, the D would be a nice addition to an already great tank line which would add some new things and changes like better protection and thermals

@NuubiTuubi1000 Год назад

I think Stefan Karlsson also said that the STRV 103 could raise one side of its suspension so it could shoot in a slope more accurately.

@vizender Год назад

Next a what if the Leclerc was historically accurate could be interesting!

@TR33ZY_CRTM Год назад

_"The Leclerc's crew has a 99% chance of surrendering upon coming in contact with the enemy."_ Source: Erwin Rommel

@ATruckCampbell Год назад

@@TR33ZY_CRTM Yea I also read that when Leclerc crews were faced with early Leopard 2s they would give up a lot of the time especially in North Africa where they were not used to fighting the Japanese.

@1999Almaz Год назад

@@TR33ZY_CRTM Imagine laughing at French people in 2022 because their government (mainly Pétain) were cowards in 1940. Pathetic

@dankuspanku4650 Год назад

Aktchually the autoloader could even be pushed down to one round every two seconds but that had a chance of jamming the autoloader. Also the internal armour should be thicker if I'm not mistaken.

@nicolaspeigne1429 Год назад

most autoloaders are limited for reliability so i'm not surprised

@oohhboy-funhouse Год назад

@@nicolaspeigne1429 I don't think it is a "Generic" auto loader reliability issue. The loader can be a 100% reliable but, there is a minimum time for certain things that must happen in sequence and any faster the machine jams because the spent casing can't eject any faster or the new round is moving too fast to line up with the breach. By over clocking the process, it eats into tolerances and breaks because you exceed elements require gravity which isn't going to change. 1 rnd every 2 seconds is crazy fast.

@Lillspratt Год назад

In the video, it says, "3 rounds per second, instead of 4" and 4 rounds per second, is like 0.25 sec reload.

@nicolaspeigne1429 Год назад

@@oohhboy-funhouse this autoloader is faster than most because the canon doesn't move, so it's much simpler. What i said is most autoloader are capable to be faster than what they are limited to, for the same reasons you cited.

@Dramigbaklanges Год назад

The time to load was ~2.5 sec, this made it possible to select type of round to use after the target has been acquired without any loss of time to engage. In fact the gun do not reload after each shot automatically, the gunner need to press HE or AP for it to reload each time. Did my military service on the 103 in Sweden as an technician so I have actually drive it and engage targets with laser practice equipment, and it was really smooth to aim.

@FatherGrigori Год назад

This thing is definitely one of the most unique tanks I've seen, and it might be quite advantageous in Swedens terrain

@velaikka Год назад

That was the point of it, why they had a difficult time trying to sell the design to other countries because it basically only worked well in Sweden :)

@FatherGrigori Год назад

@@velaikka I shouldn't have worded it as "might be advantageous" lmao

@Alloy682 Год назад

3 rounds a second?

@blueberry1c2 Год назад

BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM

@user-mm2ey6lz9h Год назад

Machine gun 105mm

@alblup6860 Год назад

HSTVL got nothing on this bad boy

@Spookston Год назад

Typo, it's meant to be "one round every three seconds."

@Alloy682 Год назад

@@Spookston aaah ok I was confused cause I know it's a fast gun so I was like "3 a minute is too slow"

@jackmino729 Год назад

"A crew member must exit the vehicle to reload the external machine guns" Apply this to every tank that has a pintle mounted gun

@p51cMustangFUYTGIVEMEBACK Год назад

you forgot the most important one, hullaiming was actually accurate

@erikkusters378 Год назад

I would love to see it in game that the if the engine gets shot and 1 survives the strv can still move somewhat it would add to its survivability and shooting it in the engine/transmission doesn't mean it's effectively taken out, I think it would be a good addition and makes them even more unique like them surviving with only 1 crew member

@derrickstorm6976 Год назад

Three rounds per second? O.o

@KW_2000 Год назад

i love these videos so mucha nd im really glad you always link the sources i love reading about stuff like this.

@topkek8671 Год назад

Great content as always

@Rojek-ls3dl Год назад

I kinda wish that the fact it has two engines was sort of modeled in game. Well, at least when it takes one engine hit it still can turn around and aim until 2nd hit is dealt or something like that. Would help it out a lot giving it any fighting back capabilities.

@doge3058 Год назад

Gajin should go through your "vehicles that should be added in warthunder" video and just add every one

@pennycarvalho1223 Год назад

I would also note that the strv103D also had composite armor blocks

@riotdrone8099 Год назад

YES! I've been waiting for such a video for so long, thank you thank you thank you!❤️❤️ (swedish main here)

@seemslegit6203 Год назад

Its such a unique vehicle ngl, and it looks kinda cool

@tobberino Год назад

The cannon is actually considered an autocannon with 2,5 seconds reload. Practical fire rate is estimated around 4,5 seconds due to dust kicking up and so on. But you could hold the fire button and reload button at the same time to fire it automatically with 2,5 sec between shots.

@thealmightytigor5308 Год назад

I honestly would love to see another S tank in game it's one of my favorite tanks though I would also like to see them add the engine detail since it would actually make the S tank more viable in war thunder

@FatherGrigori Год назад

Dude you're so close to 200k subs

@juliopedrogasparetovigollo706 Год назад

3 rounds per second, now thats impressive

@Edo_Ginting Год назад

Mostly pros for the tank on this one! Nice job man!

@adriancoric1721 Год назад

There were some cons like engine repair taking more time, but if they actually allowed the thing to run on one destroyed engine i would happily accept the increased repair time

@worstr6playerna211 Год назад

im glad to see spookston covered one of my favorite tanks

@BanilyaGorilya Год назад

Gave me so many reasons more to love this tank.

@mockemperor953 Год назад

For the Swedish military military never being involved in a modern enough War to have tanks they sure know how to make a really good tank

@Chief_Mende Год назад

Love the odst rain at the end

@nola211 Год назад

The double engine thing sounds like a maintenance nightmare

@blugastidiofable9517 Год назад

Amazing video. How much time does it usually take to get all of this info?

@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren Год назад

0:05 good grief give the STRV some privacy!

@WoWmakerWT Год назад

I saw that document about reloading speed. It tells only about autoloader automatic cycle. Yes it can do clear loading for 3 seconds. But game reloading is based on full cycle of shot-load. It means you must take in mind time needed for cannon recoil, shell extraction and returning whole system to zero-point before loading new round. Well in the end, this side of asS-tank is as accurate as it's possible.

@drancon101 Год назад

Im a fan of the 103 and this was very pleasing to watch

@WoooshProductions Год назад

hey spookston can you take a look at the LVTEX-3 fighting vehicle? it can mount a sheridan turret with a 105mm gun

@Towarzysz_Orlinski Год назад

Great video, these are always fun to watch, even tho I don't think the strv103 can fire three rounds per second because that would be kinda op :)

@sergeantmarcusstackerM1903 Год назад

Do you think you’ll do a “how bad was this” video for the 103?

@doge3058 Год назад

Almost to 200k! You gonna do another Qna?

@lowenjennings 3 месяца назад

even at a higher cost, it seems like a well-rounded (despite being a wedge) piece of equipment. I'd definitely want a few of these in my arsenal

@ventischair9158 Год назад

3 rounds per second, holy jesus thats fast :O

@couchpotatoi Год назад

You should make a video on the ZTZ99A as I feel like its different (relative to how it felt on the dev server) now then when you played it in your last video on it

@Mornomgir Год назад

Its short track length also made it a beast in really rough terrain. It could go where other tanks could not. Its a full 10 calibres bigger than a standard L7 which made the effectivness substantial. Not slightly. As proven when fired upon Soviet tanks procured from east germany after the fall of the berlin wall in the early 90s. Otherwise great stuff.

@Alloy682 Год назад

Ooo the low light rounds are cool

@charakiga Год назад

The fences were actually there to destabilize kinetic rounds, and if you search SY Simulations (extremely good channel, I can only recommend) strv 103 kinetic round, you will see how much it does destabilize the kinetic round, it’s impressive. Btw those simulations are really accurate (he often shows historical photos of similar situations of penetration), except HEAT-FS that are apparently harder to render.

@spicy6279 Год назад

cool vid again spookman

@treysmith8917 Год назад

The tank museum in Northern Virginia has two of these and it’s cool to watch them play with it during their open house

@Dinstyvmorsa8539 3 дня назад

That's really cool. I didn't know of any others existing except at ARSENALEN and I think there was one in England(but not shure)

@ryderbond7966 Год назад

God I love this vehicle. I pray it never gets up-tiered because it is slept on at its br.

@BPo75 Год назад

0:31 There were 10.5 cm illumination rounds available already in the 1940's. What the 103C got was two external Lyran illumination discharger tubes (small mortars) with about 1.5 km range. 1:43 The British L7 had a barrel of L52 calibres, while the barrel in the S-tank was 62L calibres, so more than 20% longer. 1:57 The main part of the procurement was the R&D needed, not building the actual tanks. Once bought, the R&D costs had been payed. 2:11 Reloading the external machine guns wasn't much of an issue, as they were loaded with 500 rounds each, and unlike in the game the hull guns were set up to alternate between them with the first trigger pull firing the left, the second the right, third back to the left and so forth. Any failure not fixable by charging the mechanism *did* require someone to go out.

@nov4rus579 Год назад

God I love the Strv 103s

@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS Год назад

It was seeing rough VHS Armén test footage of this tank in the mid 90s that first got me interested in Swedish arms in general and it has been a love affair ever since. Innovative and lateral thinking would be the words I would use to best describe the various weapon systems that have come out of Sweden. It's a country that's very dear to my heart and I used to visit regularly (a few times a year, and monthly visits at one point when I had a gf there), something that I sincerely hope to be able to do again soon, but let's just say that it's not the time to be the registered carer for a parent (I don't mean to gripe, but honestly the money I receive for doing it is pretty insulting, especially given that people like myself save the UK government billions of pounds a year, but I digress). Is the CV90 in WT? I have to admit that I became very focused on the naval game the last time I was playing and a great deal of what has been released for land and air has completely passed me by.

@Commander_Koyke Год назад

Do a Historically Accurate vid about shells i know It's gonna be short but it'll be interesting.

@Sunshrine2 Год назад

0:10 "3 rounds per second." *Swedish death metal music starts*

@misterragnar2521 Год назад

The 103D also had additional composite armor on the actual tank to better protect against kinetic rounds.

@pepethefrog4627 Год назад

2:05 that image is of the strv 103C prototype version, with added on composite armour, not the D varient

@Ragedaonenlonely Год назад

Which is what the D is...? A prototype upgraded 103C, thereby designated 103D. 'It's not water, it's liquid!'

@fallrising5443 Год назад

3 shots a sec? This isn't an auto cannon-

@Lord_of_All Год назад

Oooh oh oooh Do the BMP-everyone of them Next

@drgreen7204 Год назад

3 shells per second. Damn, nice autoloader

@winterierfan1672 Год назад

Please do one on the Chieftains/Challengers. I feel like theres a lot to say.

@turtlepowa Год назад

would love to have an episode talking about the Italian F104's

@victorolofsson2792 Год назад

The D veriant looks awesome

@The-lay 3 месяца назад

the amphibious mode for the strv requires a floating screen and we dont got non o those in war thunder

@Maddog1911 Год назад

I just watched this mini series for the halo music

@limer.6355 Год назад

wasnt there something about the burst fire mode. while holding the trigger. something about 3 sec relode ?

@Pipino_il_Longo Год назад

next: if war thunder's sturmtiger was historically accurate

@browning2471 Год назад

Cool to see you do some foreign vehicles

@adriancoric1721 Год назад

Do you know by any chance how much protection it adds ?

@anticlaassic Год назад

I‘m not quite sure on those fire rates, Spook. I mean even 3 per second is quite impressive!

@baronmunro1494 Год назад

I read that in testing it could fire on the move (directly in front of it ofc) more accurately than contemporary turreted tanks. I feel like that fact should be a massive kick in the butt for Gaijin to fix the Stridsvagn 103's aiming but I guess they don't care that you can't aim this thing stationary when it's supposed to beat a Chieftain on the move.

@zevirkann9755 Год назад

The 103D at 8.7 would be both amazingly good and amazingly bad if I'm being honest. It'll be amazing because 4 second reload coupled with thermals, better mobility and a bit of chem protection will be a step up from the 104C. Full downtiers to 7.7 would pretty much be a turkey shoot. It would also be a downright a crime against humanity because of the god awful hull aiming. The wedges are the only tanks I've driven where I literally pulled my hair out due to frustration. Trying to fight the reticle to even STAY on a stationary target, let alone a moving one, while you're on an incline is like fighting a pig covered in mud. It really feels like the reticle has a mind of its own. Using that against 9.7 tanks is unthinkable to me.

@sn0lder Год назад

i just wish gaijin would fix the jaggy control of the hull aiming, it really shouldnt be hard

@user-oo2yo2gn5s Год назад

good video

@IvanTre Год назад

Three rounds per second ? Good lord.

@krelekari Год назад

I'd LOOOOOVE for it the be counted as an amphibious vehicle Amphibious vehicles are my favorite and there are so few in the game

@SconeysASMR Год назад

The amphibious part made me laugh really hard lmao. Just plummets.

@SconeysASMR Год назад

Huh just noticed RU-vid unsubbed me, fixing that.

@P4hko Год назад

It could dig itself down very good and fast also

@Flamechr Год назад

3 rounds per second holy crap 😱

@downwindfish1 Год назад

What you're saying is, this tank is even cooler than I thought it was

@dragoneye0979 Год назад

Im kind of hoping if we ever get the 103D it will get some advanced ammo and go at 9.3/9.7. Top tier cheese wedge my beloved

@orenoishadoukuurass Год назад

Tank beats everything hell I can do this all day!!

@macce3453 Год назад

You must do one about bt 42 :D

@burnt_toast1218 Год назад

you should do the 2s38 next

@thaihoang9835 Месяц назад

i hope they have stridsvagn 103 skin for ramps in racing games

@g3arjammer837 Год назад

I hope we get the D model at some point

@AlexT-34 Год назад

Thirty-fourth video asking for the Spj fm/43-44, it has a 15 sec reload, and fires 8kg TNT equivalent HE shells, while at br 1.7.

@nostradamusofgames5508 Год назад

More planes and ships please!

@sproge2142 Год назад

Damn, able to fire three rounds per second? That's pretty impressive!

@jammygamer8961 Год назад

Three rounds a second? 0:09 1:59 you should of mentioned the composite armor but at the same time i guess anyone could see it has composite on it

@xcritic9671 Год назад

3 rounds per second? Dang, that's some Carl magic right there XD

@mosark6554 Год назад

Will you ever do another video where you review fictional vehicles like your halo vids?

@vlotex Год назад

Three rounds per Second?

@Eonymia Год назад

3 rounds per second? Damn.

@Juel92 Год назад

It's nice when the main tank repping your nation has one of these videos and it's not filled with cons lol.

@SdKfz-gq8bh Год назад

ofcourse it has no cons, its a very perfect tank, totally no flaws

@chish7690 Год назад

0:53 I've been complaining about the seperate engines for months

@eikbolha5883 Год назад

And also the original strw 103. 0 have the 20mm cannon on the commander hatch but during trials they find out that its not that power full as they want asd in production model they go for mutch cheaper 7.62 option also more ammo can be fitted with this option all this can ba found on the documents but there are just 2 or 3 pictures of it also one pic from trials with 20mm on top we háve and another 2 as an originál blueprint but also i would Like to háve that 20mm on the top cuz the 103.0 was basicly prototyp witch they tested things on it and during that háve the 20mm cannon and i guess its called akan 45 plus also we háve it in game with samé cupola on low br ifw from sweeden its has samé thing as the strw103. 0 but we dont recive it in game literally i púť this on fórum give gaijin source photos but nothing change since than still the 103.0 is my fav tank but still is not finished and at this point it never will.