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@andrewnguyen664
@andrewnguyen664 6 месяцев назад
Next time Pak needs to film right in front of the sun, there wasn't enough glare in this video.
@Ki8ClOuD
@Ki8ClOuD 6 месяцев назад
Not gonna lie that glare was rough 😅
@charlie-vw7zw
@charlie-vw7zw 6 месяцев назад
Fr, thought he was playing 2 old man Sauravis at first
@tomhiggart
@tomhiggart 6 месяцев назад
Pak is now doing deck profiles outside the gates of heaven
@SDREHXC
@SDREHXC 6 месяцев назад
It’s cool seeing sauravis getting played again.
@themoeyouknow4266
@themoeyouknow4266 6 месяцев назад
So that’s 41 cards not 40 one for one or called by makes it 41
@ianthompson3346
@ianthompson3346 6 месяцев назад
No summon limit in side is wild...nice list tho
@redoctober67
@redoctober67 6 месяцев назад
The deck is simply fun to play, honestly
@LacaYGO
@LacaYGO 6 месяцев назад
Great video as always. Keep up the max competitive content! No better place for that than here🤝 One suggestion for improvement: it would be nice to see the cards on the playmat better. The light really shines on the sleeves. The pictures of the cards are a nice bonus but sometimes you might lose track on ratios because you can't differentiate the cards because of the shining.
@Quesorito
@Quesorito Месяц назад
3 Suaravis can feel a little bricky but it definitely can come up to pull 5 rituals out of the deck so I run the new Saffira ritual and side into Pendelumgraph so I can get a free draw or a Spell negate Edit: Pend. Also is good against Tenpai with Meteor burst
@michaellockett4044
@michaellockett4044 6 месяцев назад
RIP Saffira. We hardly played ye
@diegotorresgarcia8332
@diegotorresgarcia8332 6 месяцев назад
We really need balling in a budget for this format 😂
@masterminer2338
@masterminer2338 6 месяцев назад
Just play Floo
@rougetierduelist2497
@rougetierduelist2497 6 месяцев назад
Hey guys if you don’t want to play the fire deck you can play this deck it will only run you 70-80 dollars per copy for your main card. You will need 3 diviner as well, another 30 dollar card that’s a mandatory 3 of. Also another 10 for the second main card . Great budget option!
@DanielMartinez-kn9fx
@DanielMartinez-kn9fx 6 месяцев назад
I get that but it’s a lot better than needing 115 for 3 copies of wanted, 30~40 for 2 copies of poplar, 40 for 1~3 copies of witch, 15 for flamberge, 30~45 for 1-2 copies of princess, and not even mentioning the bon fires
@dpacula63
@dpacula63 6 месяцев назад
@@DanielMartinez-kn9fxbut it’s still not cheap! Yes it’s “better” but still unaffordable. I can’t exactly drop $240 for 3 cards. Before tax.
@AntCommando
@AntCommando 6 месяцев назад
​@@dpacula63if you didn't pick up Lo, on release, and can't really afford it now, Rescue Ace is still a strong deck that doesn't NEED the snake-eye cards, they help, branded isn't bad you'd still need a quem which was expensive for a bit following Joshua's win with runick bystials, Purrely is still playable, but I feel like it's been power crept, and some runick variants are still viable, I personally like the live twin runick spright variant, you can setup knightmare gryphon and lock out special summoned monster effects that aren't linked
@MadaraUchiha-wf4iv
@MadaraUchiha-wf4iv 6 месяцев назад
I appreciate videos like this.
@Chris-rv1hp
@Chris-rv1hp 6 месяцев назад
Pak thoughts on Branded Fusion variant that just topped YCS San Jose, Guu??
@Stogen
@Stogen 6 месяцев назад
the subtitles are a nice touch
@mkultrarare
@mkultrarare 6 месяцев назад
I can tell that Henry put those in Vanguard sleeves
@AntCommando
@AntCommando 6 месяцев назад
Pretty sure those are manamoon sleeves with Raye and Roze as Neon Genesis Evangelion characters
@ChristosEglezos-nr9js
@ChristosEglezos-nr9js 5 месяцев назад
Few questions to the video! First of all nice deckprofile! Quest: talents is really good going first u said? I know it still have value but isnt it better going second ? And how are u siding with side deck? I thought about going second put the talents in and take the pots out. Makes this sense ? Ty much!❤
@epscarmeff8420
@epscarmeff8420 6 месяцев назад
Possible visit to purrely, lab, or branded? would love to see some input and possibly to builds on those
@masterminer2338
@masterminer2338 6 месяцев назад
Honestly Accel into Baronne isn't worth imo. If Diviner gets stopped, how are you getting Saffira onto the field?
@tobiasohiggins9704
@tobiasohiggins9704 6 месяцев назад
That’s a combo that you use when you’ve got access to Lo and diviner. Use diviner to bait imperm / veiler. So it stay level 2. Then use your combo to summon skull guardian with Lo, Revive back Lo, which place the trap face up. Then use trap to summon directly saffira from deck. Level 6. 6+2=8 accel stardust. Stardust effect revive diviner. Go baronne. You often got the hand to play it thanks to your ratio and the pre prep, or a first saffira which is used to search your skull guardian and place spell in grave. found this on a different comment
@trevorhornibrook6034
@trevorhornibrook6034 6 месяцев назад
At the end with the combo you said when lo is ss you can search for a monster, it actually places the spell/trap face up, not searches for a monster.
@cazoova8250
@cazoova8250 5 месяцев назад
Guess what the spell does
@xJIN86x
@xJIN86x 6 месяцев назад
That glare is crazy
@TeacherTempest
@TeacherTempest 6 месяцев назад
He said 40 cards in main, but wasn't that 41?
@ProphecyPat
@ProphecyPat 6 месяцев назад
Doesn’t having Lo as CL2 on your combo open you up to getting belle’d? I feel like you need to prioritize the Omni over the monster add from deck. Correct me if I’m wrong I’m just curious on your line of thought.
@danlay638
@danlay638 6 месяцев назад
the deck's awesome and all but let's get real: most of us don't want to play fire decks cuz of the cost and this VoiVoi list also costs a fat amount. they really screwed us over by making Lo the only good secret so we wouldn't have cards to compete to bring her price down
@ilfisicobestiale8045
@ilfisicobestiale8045 6 месяцев назад
One question, what do you think about removing the called and the droll to put 3 branded fusion and a fallen of albaz? Obviously while remanaging the extra deck
@nsreturn1365
@nsreturn1365 6 месяцев назад
fision lock in a rtial archtype yikes
@ilfisicobestiale8045
@ilfisicobestiale8045 6 месяцев назад
@@nsreturn1365 does not lock the ritual, only extra deck monsters
@Lawler50431
@Lawler50431 5 месяцев назад
@@nsreturn1365 Branded Fusion only locks your extra deck summons to Fusion only, you can still Ritual summon just fine after playing it.
@__demo__1009
@__demo__1009 5 месяцев назад
@@nsreturn1365Rituals arent from the extra deck so maybe viable?
@DspeedTV
@DspeedTV 6 месяцев назад
Can you take flame-swordsman to locals? Would love to see a deck profile
@pasce2154
@pasce2154 6 месяцев назад
what do u think about the shaddol package? @PAK
@bedylch2
@bedylch2 4 месяца назад
If you don't want to play fire...play ninja and win every tier 0 matchup 2:0 :D
@xSkwintz
@xSkwintz 6 месяцев назад
If you don’t want to play a fire deck…. I hope you like glue because it’s time to play shifter
@Rosemary-eq1pe
@Rosemary-eq1pe 6 месяцев назад
Forgive me if I misunderstand, how is Accel Stardust being made? He mentioned when DIviner gets stopped you make Accel.
@bruniTCG
@bruniTCG 6 месяцев назад
u need access to the trap to summon saffira then link diviner and saffira into accel
@weyloran2007
@weyloran2007 6 месяцев назад
i don't get it either, if you normal diviner and it gets impermed, you don't have any way into the trap except for tributing diviner (or ritual skull guardian from hand, but you're expecting four exact cards in your opener at that point), if you tribute diviner you lose access to accel, if you hard draw or search the trap you have to set it, so accel feels like it's only gonna come up as an extra option in a full engine hand? maybe you play it to help close out games? i might playtest it myself but i feel like it's not going to come up
@Rosemary-eq1pe
@Rosemary-eq1pe 6 месяцев назад
So you already need Trap + Diviner + card to shuffle back, all to make a Baronne on turn 3 minimum?
@bruniTCG
@bruniTCG 6 месяцев назад
@@weyloran2007 no one said it was optimal.. they just asked how it’s done
@bruniTCG
@bruniTCG 6 месяцев назад
@@weyloran2007 it’s a back up play.. if you are tributing the diviner, you aren’t going into Baronne play
@dpacula63
@dpacula63 6 месяцев назад
This deck isn’t exactly budget either. Yeah the prices aren’t as bad but still totally suck. It’s not that people don’t WANT to play fire, it’s that they CANT.
@Xx3SPAZxX
@Xx3SPAZxX 6 месяцев назад
If u dont wanna play a $1200 deck play a $800 deck 😂😂
@robertonavarro7595
@robertonavarro7595 6 месяцев назад
Which one?
@Xx3SPAZxX
@Xx3SPAZxX 6 месяцев назад
Full power fire is roughly 1200. This deck profile is roughly 800
@Sly10k
@Sly10k 6 месяцев назад
Who taught you how to add? The entire core including 3x Lo can be bought for less than $300.
@Xx3SPAZxX
@Xx3SPAZxX 6 месяцев назад
@@Sly10k was the word "core" ever written by me? Who taught u how to read?
@zefie14
@zefie14 6 месяцев назад
The real strength of this deck is that it makes Nib, Imperm and/or Veiler useless against it in most scenarios.
@richard8670
@richard8670 6 месяцев назад
not even close, veiler and imperm are really good vs it
@wardy4903
@wardy4903 6 месяцев назад
@@richard8670 Don't mind me just chaining my searchable imperm/veiler negate.
@itisme2043
@itisme2043 6 месяцев назад
​​Its about sauravis ​When i played against that deck and i usef imp/veiler they had sauravis. They also have pre prep where they search sauravis most of the time alot of times no chance for imp veiler@@richard8670
@richard8670
@richard8670 6 месяцев назад
@@wardy4903 better have it
@denisaveri9833
@denisaveri9833 6 месяцев назад
​@@richard8670 The sauravis fully counters veiler imperm.
@byakuganyokai
@byakuganyokai 6 месяцев назад
Have you tried the allegedly existant variant with branded?
@NBFGrimReaper
@NBFGrimReaper 5 месяцев назад
Could you get the skull guardians effect when you summon him from the graveyard to add something?
@gzzomega7661
@gzzomega7661 6 месяцев назад
Voiceless is mid imo only because fire decks exist. But it’s a good deck compared to everything else so it’s probably the best option outside fire. Even tho my floo deck would swarm them 🦅
@XDuelistX.
@XDuelistX. 6 месяцев назад
Ay bro is possible you can add some more glare to the board I could still see some of the cards in the video. 🤔
@patriktomic4511
@patriktomic4511 6 месяцев назад
What about nadir instead of pots? For easier breaking of boards.
@bruniTCG
@bruniTCG 6 месяцев назад
loses to droll harder and the mirror will go +2 off it, branded will laugh at you
@BanditTools
@BanditTools 6 месяцев назад
Alot of super poly rn too, and super poly packages tend to include a Garura, which nets your opp a plus 1 potentially when you nadir.
@patriktomic4511
@patriktomic4511 6 месяцев назад
True about branded and mirror i guess, but doesnt this deck need something better to go 2nd? If you play prosp into playing 2nd,arent you just looking for super poly and if u dont hit you are screwed? Just asking about opinions.
@AntCommando
@AntCommando 6 месяцев назад
​@patriktomic4511 that's why you play so much non engine, your goal is to hope you open enough hand traps and use them at the right time, the fire king deck typically doesn't put up a negate, so you can punish them hard with a nibiru once they have over committed and have used all or most of their effects, as for branded your only really problems are stopping mirrorjade, and sanctifier dragon from puppet locking you, or dragoon, side in super poly and belle for branded
@patriktomic4511
@patriktomic4511 6 месяцев назад
@@AntCommando but for instance if you dont opet hand traps, wouldnt it be better at going 2nd to have nadir instead of prosp or extr?
@masterminer2338
@masterminer2338 6 месяцев назад
I count 41 main decked btw
@rascollygo
@rascollygo 6 месяцев назад
Main deck is exactly like mine😮‍💨 I play summon limit in side tho cause it’s instant win sometimes🙅‍♂️
@denispaspalov
@denispaspalov 6 месяцев назад
as you were saying the ritual monster is really hard to out i just thinking how i gave you gamaceal
@markuswe2134
@markuswe2134 6 месяцев назад
What about the Variants with Voicless Vice Shaddol or voicless Branded?
@Senshi00
@Senshi00 5 месяцев назад
Voiceless si si
@LilThunder
@LilThunder 6 месяцев назад
uh this isnt a branded deck profile
@swayvacious1
@swayvacious1 6 месяцев назад
I went back to agents
@conradgarcia-hauzer4630
@conradgarcia-hauzer4630 6 месяцев назад
I miss the old Pak videos
@WendlerTV
@WendlerTV 6 месяцев назад
Good thing i bought my core before the pak effect /s
@helloitsme472
@helloitsme472 6 месяцев назад
great profile but holy shit this was hard to understand with everyone screaming and the horrible glare
@impulsessj2033
@impulsessj2033 6 месяцев назад
this how you know he borrowed that deck
@charlie-vw7zw
@charlie-vw7zw 6 месяцев назад
Will be the best deck for sure if Fire gets gutted hard enough.
@nicholasblutreich9544
@nicholasblutreich9544 6 месяцев назад
Lab is waiting too. But yeah I agree
@MrThejapans411
@MrThejapans411 6 месяцев назад
Nah. I am gonna play raidraptors bro. The new support is cracked
@ElIki69
@ElIki69 6 месяцев назад
40 or 41 cards?¿ awesome deck
@alexwalter2476
@alexwalter2476 6 месяцев назад
Someday yugitubers will learn to shoot with a cpl filter. But that day is not today.
@LemonCookies
@LemonCookies 6 месяцев назад
Oo very nice
@aarondelgado6569
@aarondelgado6569 6 месяцев назад
Would you consider trying to find room for three cross-out
@danlay638
@danlay638 6 месяцев назад
it's important to remember that the UDS was a very small event where people expected mostly, if not all, snake eyes mirror. it made crossout ideal cuz if you're always playing the mirror, you can use crossout to stop engine as well as hand traps. crossout becomes much less optimal when you have more players and therefore more variance to an event. we will see what crossout does at this weekend's upcoming ycs
@PrinceCollinXXX
@PrinceCollinXXX 6 месяцев назад
Why play fire when I can play floodgates 😈
@avarice25
@avarice25 6 месяцев назад
Because Konami effectively banned the good ones
@manjaelstner5386
@manjaelstner5386 6 месяцев назад
How moutch Cost the deck?
@danlay638
@danlay638 6 месяцев назад
sadly you're looking at like $200-210 for a playset of Lo, another $90 for a playset of Diviner, $30 for a playset of Saffira, and then there's the extra deck cost of $70 chaos angel, $40 for stardust, $30 for Accesscode, $40 for sky crisis, $20 for garura, and then the elephant $150 for S:P. realistically, if you don't have any of the cards, you're spending > $700 to build this exact list. the deck is not cheap at all, it's just flying under the radar cuz fire is outrageously expensive. let's hope rarity collection 2 gives us diviner reprint.
@himsa1932
@himsa1932 6 месяцев назад
The most expensive card is Lo at ~$70 USD right now. The rest of the engine is cheap. So depending on how much of the non-engine or extra you need, you're looking at probably like ~$265 maybe to get the whole engine
@spookyoreos1134
@spookyoreos1134 6 месяцев назад
​@danlay638 usually you don't need the extra that much except for specific scenarios. You don't need stardust for most builds or chaos angel. The rest of the stuff listed I'd say is true though. 600-900 is still way to much lol
@danlay638
@danlay638 6 месяцев назад
@@spookyoreos1134 yeah I agree, was more so responding to OP about how much this specific list would cost
@MCpornoable
@MCpornoable 6 месяцев назад
how do you special saffira for Accel?
@rijly6729
@rijly6729 6 месяцев назад
how do you get in accel stardust?
@EgoBoostify
@EgoBoostify 6 месяцев назад
Would you really play 1 for 1?
@Mark-dl9pu
@Mark-dl9pu 6 месяцев назад
Best deck
@yu-gi-oase7498
@yu-gi-oase7498 6 месяцев назад
those are 41 or am i trippin?
@wardy4903
@wardy4903 6 месяцев назад
How are you making accel again? If you need saffira on board with diviner then its sounds bad. I need the to use the trap to bring out saffira?
@WendlerTV
@WendlerTV 6 месяцев назад
IIRC its usually on the condition diviner gets stalled ok field. So you have access to put up that negate and setup for t2 vs oppo
@wardy4903
@wardy4903 6 месяцев назад
Don't know what you're saying. How does saffira get on board?
@Aimmboat
@Aimmboat 6 месяцев назад
Summon it with the trap
@ducky36F
@ducky36F 6 месяцев назад
@@Aimmboatto have the trap on your turn you have to have Lo already. How are you getting Lo and diviner? Might be doable later in the game but not not turn one for sure
@polygon2745
@polygon2745 6 месяцев назад
If you have the ability to ritual summon and have lo in hand you sac lo and place radiance. I don’t think it’s worth running the accel just for that though
@codyfeasts7196
@codyfeasts7196 6 месяцев назад
Should’ve recorded anywhere else
@snooze5124
@snooze5124 6 месяцев назад
I Want This Deck But I’m Broker Than Broke
@somerandomweeb4836
@somerandomweeb4836 6 месяцев назад
I beat this deck with fluffals earlier today
@SlayerDR7
@SlayerDR7 6 месяцев назад
Why no Summon Limit @PAK? :O
@MrEdward147852
@MrEdward147852 6 месяцев назад
how do you accel synchro??
@AntCommando
@AntCommando 6 месяцев назад
You need diviner saffira and lo, if diviner gets negated, saffira grabs you skull guardian, you use her second effect to ritual summon, tributing the lo in hand, skull guardian to search, lo to summon back, lo effect to place the trap, use the trap to spin back the ritual spell and summon a 2nd copy of saffira, then synchro into accel, accel brings back diviner, then you make baronne, then skull guardian and Lo for dyna mondo, to summon back the skull guardian and trigger lo in your opponents draw phase, so you get barrier access, this gets you targeting protection, 2 omni negates and a pop 1 if you want to lose the trap, but keeping it up is better for the grind game
@isaacsamuel6035
@isaacsamuel6035 6 месяцев назад
I think 41-42 cards in VV is the move. The bricks are realllyy bricky.
@avarice25
@avarice25 6 месяцев назад
It's .5% less chance honestly. 40 is fine. 42 can make siding easier
@The_Goblin_King_666
@The_Goblin_King_666 6 месяцев назад
False info. We all know that goblins is what you should play
@machAcab
@machAcab 6 месяцев назад
teaching the incorrect chain links on the combo smh
@avarice25
@avarice25 6 месяцев назад
The chain links depend on what you want to play around/have in hand. I'll agree that I probably would have went Lo 1 with no other context. But searching Sage was straight up incorrect and you never ever do that unless you want to overextend
@VeryFaded
@VeryFaded 6 месяцев назад
Ain't gonna lie the background noise makes it hard to watch and stay interested. For me at least. Love you doe
@joestar222
@joestar222 6 месяцев назад
they’ll just complain that lo is too expensive and go back to their 20$ dog-water deck
@fotiosvak2131
@fotiosvak2131 6 месяцев назад
Pak bro each video is great,, but these titles and thumbnails aint it
@Harmonic14
@Harmonic14 6 месяцев назад
What's wrong with them?
@hanielbomb
@hanielbomb 5 месяцев назад
Terrible you are with uncle glare.
@Eclipsed6s
@Eclipsed6s 6 месяцев назад
I love when he says “you make chaos angel using trias (from binder) and lo”, and really love when he says make an 8 using herald if it gets negated (meaning it’s still level 2), which unless my math is wrong 8-2=6 meaning you need a level 6 to make that play, how are you getting saffira on board when your combo gets negated? Point is, this deck is so bad in comparison to the Fire decks that even Pak, who spends a lot of time on this game, hasn’t thought about it much.
@wardy4903
@wardy4903 6 месяцев назад
I've been following this deck forever since it came out in the ocg. This is literally the first time ive ever seen someone run accel in it and he doesn't even explain how you're supposed to make it lol. Sometimes these yugitubers make me wonder.
@jn.bnt7750
@jn.bnt7750 6 месяцев назад
That’s a combo that you use when you’ve got access to Lo and diviner. Use diviner to bait imperm / veiler. So it stay level 2. Then use your combo to summon skull guardian with Lo, Revive back Lo, which place the trap face up. Then use trap to summon directly saffira from deck. Level 6. 6+2=8 accel stardust. Stardust effect revive diviner. Go baronne. You often got the hand to play it thanks to your ratio and the pre prep, or a first saffira which is used to search your skull guardian and place spell in grave.
@rorschach4502
@rorschach4502 6 месяцев назад
Sometimes I feel like it would just be better to make Omega for a hand rip
@jn.bnt7750
@jn.bnt7750 6 месяцев назад
@@rorschach4502yeah right. Depends. Baronne got you Omni negate AND a pop by bringing back diviner in standby to send nt’ss. Just see your game state and evaluate it
@avarice25
@avarice25 6 месяцев назад
If your entire hand is Diviner, then yeah you're not making Accel. If you're Tributing the Diviner, you're not making Accel.
@CGTradez
@CGTradez 6 месяцев назад
Idk bout this, I 2-0 3 voiceless players with Ghoti, none had an idea of what I did & got doubled Deep Beyond😂😂
@pablepablo2321
@pablepablo2321 6 месяцев назад
Congrats on beating noobs at locals
@CGTradez
@CGTradez 6 месяцев назад
@@pablepablo2321 how about u finish net decking & go about ur business
@pablepablo2321
@pablepablo2321 6 месяцев назад
@@CGTradez bruh wut lol
@Harmonic14
@Harmonic14 6 месяцев назад
I beat full power Sky Striker 2-0 back in the day with pure Crystron... Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything lol
@avarice25
@avarice25 6 месяцев назад
So how many Ghoti are topping actual events? Just the 1 guy? Alright, bet.
@Bradlolnick
@Bradlolnick 6 месяцев назад
I am playing this deck, it's fun and simple. It won't win a regional though. Haha. This deck feels like a beginners deck.
@parallelwooju
@parallelwooju 6 месяцев назад
It can totally win a Regional, easily even. But YCS might be another story
@polygon2745
@polygon2745 6 месяцев назад
its already coming top 8/4, the deck is solid, but needs a bit more to back it up.
@ghfghf7
@ghfghf7 6 месяцев назад
it has multiple tops this and last week lol
@avarice25
@avarice25 6 месяцев назад
It will very likely win at least one regional. It's gone undefeated at several already
@usheaqdzv9515
@usheaqdzv9515 6 месяцев назад
Nah pak this is truly copium bro
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