All of Nate's music is so beautiful. Not only is he beyond a technical master, his songwriting and mixing is as good as it gets. I will put on any of his solo albums and sing until I can't sing anymore. He is maybe my single favorite musician.
I got into Nate off the back of the connection with Louis Cole, and it was a beautiful experience that is still continuing. I absolutely love this culture of insanely talented but down to earth musicians, it's so refreshing against the drab backdrop of the popular music doing the rounds. Fantastic interview, thank you Justin.
Having been a former high flyer working the dream job that was more a living nightmare - I would deem success as "am I happy with how I'm spending my time?" And if that's yes, then congratulations.
Never heard of Nate before, but he seems awesome! Your meeting at Wembley was pure destiny, it seems - you two just seem to get each other instinctively.
My goodness....I can't tell you how many time I paused this chat to end up Googling something or someone mentioned in this amazing conversation. I have learnt so much today - thank you both for this awesome interaction - so insightful and entertaining! x
Bro, I saw Nate with Snarky Puppy at the Ryman recently. Had no idea who he was, brought my parents. They didn't even know who Snarky was, but my dad is a trumpeter and I knew he'd dig it. Was blown away by Nate's performance. Instant fan.
Great interview!👍 Thanks to get always really interesting people to the podcast so we can know more about them🥰. Undoubtedly, you both should do a collab. Sure the result would be brilliant!🤩(and I'm not only referring to the costumes😉)
The Call was an 80s band that had minor hits with The Walls Came Down, I Still Believe, and Let The Day Begin. Basically an indie band with strong spiritual content. Awesome stuff.
The best of the best. I knew it the first time i heard kneebody, before the world knew lots more about kneebody. I knew they were the absolute real deal and would stand the test of time, and they have. I’m so glad the world has felt the same way as I knew I did, you don’t get that feeling a lot but when you do it’s a special thing. Cool to mix these worlds together, being a firstly a huge queen fan growing up and then finding my way through to the new jazz thing it’s really cool to the circle join up in an interesting way of my music worlds. I also remember when I saw josh dion play for the first time, with a band he used to play with named ULU, they were great, he only just shredded the funk on the drums and later hearing him sing is a whole other animal. Props to all the inspiration. 🧐🧐
Well, Justin, I spent 2 hours cook soup this morning, watched your podcast to catch up, came upon Paul McCartney early interviews accidentally which had me in years of joy, & then practiced guitar & vocals for 4 hours jamming with Qiheart104.3fm in NYC with good results. I feel relieved of the guilt of not picking up the guitar for a while. I've been too busy & I almost talked myself into not playing it anymore. But, I know that's a mistake because I heard one of my neighbors say "She can play." I am not anyway a player of the caliber of the artist I admire, but at least my dribbling is not offensive. So thanks for inspiration you are totally unaware of. BA
Thank you for this very enlightening chat - there's so much good music mentioned in it that I didn't know about. Nate is a great guy and I look forward to your next get together. In the meantime there is loads of music for me to discover now - thanks again, 🎶🙂
ok, I got to say, never heard of this Guy. But I watched for the entire show, because excellent artists are infectious when they talk of their craft and the emotions that go with it. Sometimes it was over my head, but at the same time not, because we as a human race choose or respond to these people or songs across the globe. WHY? His point on the click track, or metronome was spot on. I go to a concert live to feel it. YOU feel it, it can make you riot, love, drink, beer, fuck, grieve or mediate, or relax or ramp up while exercising. Good songs are guttural. no matter the genre. they invoke something in you, even pop. sometimes you want to feel light. sometimes, you want to be angry and tall, others invoke in your loins desire and sex. and so forth. An artist will always say the same thing coming off stage. We were tight, or that audience was awesome. your describing and emotion and a feeling of a wave of being together. An experience. For you to retire would be the same thing as stopping to having feelings. to feel your self and others to express and to listen......and that makes you shudder!
From the artist’s perspective, I think one of the factors behind selling their catalogs is that they’re seeing what’s happening after an artist dies. The family throws out the artist’s wishes and and their own integrity to do a complete “cash grab”. The artist may as well sell it on their terms and get the cash they earned while they’re still alive.
Ah yes Nate Wood, it was great to see him from almost the beginning, literally first saw and met him at a Guitar Center drum off in the early or mid 90s. I'd watch his local gigs around town, in my friend's band, and he more often played bass than drums honestly. As a teenager he was just skyrocketing in his technique and musical sense. On that topic about the the click track killing the rock sound we grew up with, very true. I watched a Billy Corgan interview in the past year (maybe Rick Beato? can't remember) and he talked about that. The Pumpkins had their own internal tempo language, a lot of push and pull to inject that excitement and a groove that should be copywrighted honestly. I think Tonight Tonight was one of the rare times they used click. Very interesting. Then on a similar note, Corgan deliberately sang sharp to create that signature sonic edge by creating a chorus-y effect with the guitar tracks. Great examples of musically doing things "wrong" in order to make a stronger impression on the audience.
Great conversation! Great questions, Justin! This is a true philosophical one, and the both of you know it, but neither of you makes it into a game nobody needs: in french they used to call fellow humanoïds like yourselves having intellectual conversations like yours ‘honnête hommes’ in the early 20th. century. That’s not too feminine friendly really, I get that. But, at the time women were running the Paris art, literary and intellectual world. ‘Paris was a woman’ (great docu film!!) But, the two of you are playing with subjects in the very way they did back in those days. With a smile, humor and a lot of self-reflection. Love that! Cheers, 💋!
Nice to see how the music world is connected. Did not know his name, but knew Snarky Puppy. One of their drummers is playing with Toto now (seen them live, incredible!). There is unbelieveable talent out there.
Far out, how did I get sucked into the Justin Hawkins rabbit hole? I didn’t watch the videos, but one saw a video and laughed the novelty off. Maybe I was too old. I am loving all this discussion. No idea how I found you though.
Now that was a really enjoyable interview. I first saw Nate play many years ago with the group KneeBody(back then they were called the Wendel Endsley group). I think it was at the Temple Bar?. Nate, like Louis and Collier is one of those alien wizards whose brain just functions differently from everyone else's. I'm glad people like that are out there pushing the boundaries of what's possible in music expression. I always enjoyed seeing him play around town, and was sad to hear he left LA, but I completely understand why he did.
I loved this, and watching your blooming Bromance together. I agree with everything Nate said! Creating art/music that nobody will really view/listen to is sooo important (for example: performing classical counterpoint of I Want to Be Sedated, translated into Latin *DONE, check mark*wink*). It's the best, sort of like flipping off the world! It's also weird how now days the most creative/best musicians are considered rebels and underground, and the "musicians" making the most $$ have questionable abilities. A switch around from the roots of rock/pop. Oui? Non?
Thank you very much for this interview , I really enjoed it. I checked out Louis Cole’s music becuse you recommended him. “I’m tight” was an instant hit for my kids also the video is hilarious:-) my 12years old daughter said “I want to listen to more of his music” and inside me, I was yeah 👍🏻 I think I need to listen to this episode again a take notes as well.
Hi Justin! Hope things haven’t been too stressful leading up to the tour, sounds like you may have had a lot going on the last 2 weeks🫣 As promised, I watched today’s episode & no, i did not regret it - in fact i never do!
I don't know what a click track is (I'll look it up later), but if you guys think that it might be killing rock and roll, then I believe you. Such a great, genuine, intelligent, funny conversation between two talented experienced musicians. Nate: "Man I like that guy; why?"
Justin, I was intrigued by your comments about being a songwriter and continuing to live off royalties even if you can’t do anything else. There are thousands upon thousands of songwriters who will likely never make anything from their songs (I know, I’m one!). How many thousands (millions?) of musicians don’t really make any money being musicians? Speaking personally - although this applies to most of the musicians I know - the bulk of my career was spent making no money at all (I’ve always played original music, never covers). The last decade or so has been spent making just enough to cover the recording and release of albums, but in no way has been enough to make a living off (hence why most of the musicians I know have day jobs). IME, making a living from making original music is a very uncommon thing for musicians. And as is touched on in the video, you never know what’s going to happen health-wise, so a pension is an absolute necessity. You know it makes sense!😉
I met this guy once, in my mid 20s, who only had Knight Rider bed sheets, and I thought that was so weird :-D Never knew what to make of that, and it didn't last either 🙂 But I think I'd understand that thing better these days 😀
I immediately checked out As Good As You Get -The Coattail Riders and saw a comment saying ‘Is that Putin on Guitar?’ Lol. Also Always forget how good Taylor’s vocals were. Underated
There about to make music catalogs public entities on the stock market. Thats why there buying and bundling them up like this . They're converting the music business from private to public sector thats the only way it can survive in the new digital economy
The project you're talking about is going to be amazing! Wow! I was enjoying the interview (it's always best when you're talking to one of your brothers), but wasn't expecting good news from it.