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If you love horses watch this!! The outlaw horse in pain 

Ed Crothers
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Shadow with pain and being disrespectful and than after being fix started acting normal behavior. while watch pay attention to his pain problem in beginning of clip and watch how he changes after pain is gone. it is easier to train a pain free horse.

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@metalheart16
@metalheart16 5 лет назад
I'm not a horse person, but I have human medical training. Right at the beginning of the video (after the tie up), you can see the horse walking gingerly and lopsidedly on its hind feet, picking one up and favoring one side. I couldn't tell if it was a tender hoof or a spinal problem at that point, but it definitely looked off. Later in the video, when part of the neck and hip pain is relieved, you can see how good natured the animal is and not highstrung at all, letting the chiropractor tap and adjust the rest of his pain with little fuss. I'm impressed.
@marycolleenvandervort3618
@marycolleenvandervort3618 2 года назад
WOW 🥺 sad for this beautiful horse. It's seems like he is showing appreciation for The help he is getting from this wonderful man. God bless him.
@jamesh9730
@jamesh9730 5 лет назад
Im Impressed, God Bless people who are good with animals
@tamsentempleman1544
@tamsentempleman1544 3 года назад
Just the most touching demonstration I have ever seen. It is most wrenching to think how much this more horse has had to deal with the fear and knowledge that "here comes the pain."
@tamsentempleman1544
@tamsentempleman1544 3 года назад
Typo: Not more horse. This POOR horse ... has had to deal with...
@josephkujawa3095
@josephkujawa3095 4 года назад
Amazing attention to details of the horse’s pain
@marycolleenvandervort3618
@marycolleenvandervort3618 2 года назад
Thank you ED for all you do. And sharing 💓 this video.
@debbiem2146
@debbiem2146 7 лет назад
I watched this video in fascination. I am not at all experienced with horse behaviour, and the knowledgable reader may well laugh at my thoughts; but I think if this were just a mean or malicious horse, then he'd be fighting hard against this man. But with all the pain this animal is experiencing, he's really being very sweet. He comes right back to the trainer/chiropractor after each incident. If I were having such pain and someone was deliberately hurting those sore spots, I'd be cranky and maybe even bite back ;-) . But this horse doesn't do any of that, just attempts to get away from the pain. And yes, he has understandibly learned poor manners through all of that. I'm so pleased that this dear horse finally found someone who was able to correctly diagnose the real problem. It touched my heart to see the care this man had for this horse, and the horses' response. And kudos to the owner for not giving up on this lovely animal!
@Anewsonginmyheartforever
@Anewsonginmyheartforever 6 лет назад
in my opinion no animal is just mean or malicious, those are human traits, pain or fear is the reason any animal lashes out..
@janna59
@janna59 6 лет назад
beautiful reply and intelligent as well.
@jefesmama
@jefesmama 5 лет назад
You, Sir are a wonderful, kind man. I'm sure the horses that you work with on a regular basis see you and think "that guy is magic" and "I'm gonna feel much better now that my savior is here". It takes a true animal lover to listen to the horses the way you do. God Bless you for your work. I think there should be more people like you in the world. Cheers!
@donnadekker
@donnadekker 6 лет назад
Every horse owner should see this. Bless you for doing what you do
@angeliquecoppolino1433
@angeliquecoppolino1433 6 лет назад
What an amazing change! More folks need to recognize that pain in most cases is the issue.
@kimdavis2508
@kimdavis2508 5 лет назад
A horse doesn’t care how much you know until he knows how much you care. Good job Sir!!
@audreygregis8721
@audreygregis8721 6 лет назад
God bless you! It's rarely the horse, rather what people have caused. I could tell from the beginning that he did not want to be this way. He kept coming right back to you, even licking and chewing. He did the same thing as you were adjusting him. What a beautiful animal! I had this same kind of thing years ago when I adopted a lovely horse that everyone told me I was crazy for owning. Got hold of a lady who did chiropractic adjusting and laser acupuncture. She told me exactly what was out. Within minutes she was a different horse. This was a lucky horse; many aren't.
@jeanniedeason3959
@jeanniedeason3959 6 лет назад
Thank you sir for this very informative video. I have had horses for many years and I have seen almost everything. I am so glad you could help this poor horse. I know there are horse chiropractors like you . There are not enough of people like you to go around to treat the many horses who need pain relief. Keep up the great work and thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. God Bless
@THUNDERWORX
@THUNDERWORX 6 лет назад
As a teen, I had a big quarter horse that was good natured. I could go out into the field and get on his back without a bridle or saddle. He didn't care at all. But he would pitch a fit over a bridle, rubbing it against his leg, when all suited up, he wouldn't cooperate riding. He'd buck you all over the field. At the time I thought he was spoiled and that I had made more of a pet out of him than a riding horse, which to some extent I had. But, looking back, it may have been something about the bridle that was hurting him. Great video. This guy really knows his horses.
@WhiteStarFlower
@WhiteStarFlower 5 лет назад
This video brought tears of joy to my eyes.. So happy to see you helping him.. 💞💖💞
@karenhargis3682
@karenhargis3682 5 лет назад
The horse wants to stare at the camera and be the show ...beautiful baby
@MissLady-pq4hc
@MissLady-pq4hc 4 года назад
Beautiful horse.
@kaboom362
@kaboom362 6 лет назад
This man is definitely good with horses. I would never have imagined Chiropractic Care for horses. Brilliant!
@jimmie200
@jimmie200 5 лет назад
When you are in pain, nothing is right, nothing. When you are an animal and cannot tell someone that you hurt and where you hurt, it must feel like an impossible situation. Mr. Crothers, because of his expertise and his great ability to observe, is a lifesaver to horses.
@richmcintyre1178
@richmcintyre1178 4 года назад
As someone who has suffered from chronic back pain for over 40 years, I can tell you it is very difficult to function at times and I can communicate my discomfort. I can only imagine the horrible life it must be to live when expectations exceed your ability to achieve regards how simple they may seem to someone who can not relate.
@kiracattan4624
@kiracattan4624 6 лет назад
Amazing. Such a beautiful horse with such painful problems. I wish horse owners would take the time to listen to what the horse is trying to tell them. It's nice to see you take such gentle care of this one. Please, keep updates coming on this horse.
@NatalieBarry123
@NatalieBarry123 6 лет назад
I wish more people would look at pain for equine behavioral issues. I can’t imagine how miserable this sweet horse has felt. It floored me when he showed immediate pain relief by licking his lips after the first adjustment at the poll. Big thumbs up for this video. BUT I wondered how a horse that won’t take a saddle has muscle development in his rear end and canter muscles over his croup. Then I’m pretty sure I heard him say they lunge him for a ‘couple of hours’!!! Running in small circles for more than a few minutes can cause anatomical problems in the most sound horses (or any person/animal). Especially one that doesn’t have self carriage. I hope I misunderstood him. He seems like he is a great gift to horses. But if they really are lunging him for ‘a couple hours’, he’s lucky to be as sound as he is.
@kathleenloverso5654
@kathleenloverso5654 6 лет назад
A Chiropractor for horses... very cool ! 👍🏼 🐎❤️
@lindacrichards
@lindacrichards 6 лет назад
You are preaching to the choir with me. Well done and bless you got what you do and educating others!
@marycolleenvandervort3618
@marycolleenvandervort3618 2 года назад
Yes he seems a lot more relaxed ☺️
@meganjk
@meganjk 6 лет назад
Too cool. I was very fortunate in getting to work with an equine adjuster/chiropractor and it blew my mind I knew my horse was out of whack but had no idea how to fix it. She came down (the adjuster) and within minutes, we saw results. Love this video
@desiree9242
@desiree9242 6 лет назад
WOW! What an amazing turn around. This beauty is clearly thankful to you Ed Crothers. Thank you for what you do. And thank you for sharing this video to help educate others. It makes sense once one sees it. WOW!
@bjdenil
@bjdenil 6 лет назад
First time I have seen chiropractic on a horse. Brilliant!
@angelam4157
@angelam4157 6 лет назад
He is a beautiful animal... I am happy that he found the release from the pain that he needed. More people need to understand that horses cannot tell you that they hurt. its up to the owners to find out why they are doing certain behaviors. my very first thing that I do when I get a horse in, or buy a horse is to go over the basics on the ground and check for any pain signs... if you do not pay attention to this, there is no sense in trying to train the horse, as you can do more damage and cause bad "learned" behaviors that can be difficult to fix.
@jomercerlmt5727
@jomercerlmt5727 5 лет назад
that horse reminds me of some of my massage clients.
@littleloner1159
@littleloner1159 5 лет назад
I love how you don't try to intimidate him with tools Seen this woman doing it without a harness and leash and that really made sense to me We have to learn their language because they'll never start talking in ours
@ChrissyD22472
@ChrissyD22472 5 лет назад
A horse chiropractor?!! Don't think I've ever seen one before.. This is pretty cool..
@colourfulworld5382
@colourfulworld5382 5 лет назад
Poor horse has been in pain for a while. You can see it's eager to please, just in a lot of neck and hip pain. Such a shame. It's whole alignment must be completely out.
@anbond5054
@anbond5054 6 лет назад
Horses can definitely act out because of pain, mine was labelled "dangerous" and unridable; I even had farrier, trainers, etc. telling me to put him down. A major problem was he had unusually high withers and a "steepled" back rather than a flattish or round one. He fought the saddle as soon as you tried to put it on. I found an old McLellan-type saddle for him that worked wonders; it didn't touch the center of the horse's back but rests on either side of the backbone, ( it must fit the individual horse). Always worth trying to figure out if the horse is comfortable.
@gbdressage3597
@gbdressage3597 5 лет назад
An Bond i
@madduck2323
@madduck2323 5 лет назад
An Bond Like people, 'one size fits all' doesn't work for everybody.
@badpossum440
@badpossum440 5 лет назад
look for Australian saddles they fit high wither & thinner horses than the american saddle designed for quarter horses
@catarena8031
@catarena8031 6 лет назад
312 dislikes because what?! Because the dislike button is there? He wasn't abusing this horse, he probably saved him from being destroyed
@bungodancereadie8018
@bungodancereadie8018 5 лет назад
Because the horse is not the problem in this video, the big guy and his kid are......slippery footing, jerking and yanking, etc. This horse is well trained...with the long back there is no doubt there will be pain...but this dick is not a chiropractor, nor does he know anatomy of horses...this is ridiculous. I wonder how much after this bs this horse was sent to slaughter?
@madduck2323
@madduck2323 5 лет назад
CatArena Never fear, idiots are every where!!
@eleanorletourneau3914
@eleanorletourneau3914 5 лет назад
CatArea the dislikes were probably because of the sound the area he was on made an echo when he spoke so that it was hard to understand what he was talking about. About half way threw it got a bit clearer.
@edenstarr5740
@edenstarr5740 5 лет назад
@@bungodancereadie8018 It's obvious that you don't understand body language, have ANY understanding of chiropractology, or horsemanship. Yes, he was handsy, but that comes from knowing that the horse isn't an idiot and understands what you're asking him to do. Have you ever had nerve pain? Because if you ever had a vertebra out of alignment, you would understand the body language, the movements to reset the alignment, and the obvious relief. Horses don't "slip" in a lunge in sawdust at a trot unless there is a severe physical issue...or there's ice. I didn't see any snow in the barn....anyone else see that horribly "slippery" spot of ice? lol Honestly. How do you watch the horses behavior change so drastically after getting worked on and think it's the handler? Oh...You don't handle horses. ;)
@anotherblonde
@anotherblonde 5 лет назад
Watch Warwick Schiller here on YT then you will see why what we are shown is not the best way to get the result.
@dinganddoo2
@dinganddoo2 6 лет назад
Sad I didn't find this sooner. First western trainer I've seen ever address this issue, this way - kudos! Tired of watching 'problem' horses run ragged in the round pen. (Monty Hall, et all...) I was lucky enough to witness this type of 'pain vs behavior' treatment in the UK in the mid 1980s. Came back to US a few years later and had to really search it out as no one had heard of this approach. Unfortunately, it's still few and far between among anything other than almost Olympic calibre training facilities, and still mostly in Europe and by European trainers/riders. Pain should be taken into consideration whenever horses act out.
@laneman9391
@laneman9391 6 лет назад
You got to train me to fix horse pain,WOW!!!!
@pattallant2398
@pattallant2398 2 года назад
Love this! Thank you
@carlaroumillat7886
@carlaroumillat7886 6 лет назад
People think they have to be the boss of their horse, but what you have to do is learn to listen to your horse, they tell you what's going on and they can keep you out of trouble too.
@annaceleste352
@annaceleste352 6 лет назад
the ulcer probably will go away once all the pain's gone, if he got the ulcer from worrying about the pain, very sad story with a happy ending👌
@kleetus92
@kleetus92 5 лет назад
Horses don't have cognitive abilities to plan or worry. His problems are as Ed said are diet related.
@kleetus92
@kleetus92 4 года назад
@catzndolz Humans are the only animals with cognitive thought abilities. Animals react to stimuli, they don't think.
@chanklachankla3867
@chanklachankla3867 6 лет назад
This is a kind gentle man you can tell he respects the horse we need more people like him I tip the hat to you sir with all do respect
@suziequigley3076
@suziequigley3076 5 лет назад
Where have you been hiding? Equine need people like you. The horse is horse. We are human. You are good! You saw it!!
@quashiesuzanne
@quashiesuzanne 6 лет назад
Your a have great experience, knowledge, and patience. Keep passing it on.
@candicegibbons8030
@candicegibbons8030 6 лет назад
Is there a follow-up video on this horse? I would love to see the final results.
@feefee6889
@feefee6889 5 лет назад
Lickin his lips like the good ol boy that he is. He looks very smart he does listen just in pain! Wow when he dropped his head after that first adjustment was amazing!!! His trot! Wow!
@milicadjukich4416
@milicadjukich4416 6 лет назад
Very good Mr. Crothers! GOD;S creatures are so beautiful! Thank you, was beautiful to look at!
@carolsims6733
@carolsims6733 6 лет назад
I've had neck, shoulder, back pain and I've gone to a chiropractor. They always helped me. I call it snap crackle pop. lol
@bencovington1121
@bencovington1121 5 лет назад
Really good job. Very impressive. I have always been skeptical of chiropractors but I think I'm changing my mind.
@troonharrison2610
@troonharrison2610 6 лет назад
It wasn't discussed in the video, but I noticed that this horse carried its tail up and out, stiffly. After treatments, the tail was carried normally, hanging straight down softly. I have observed this many times in a horse in spinal pain. If the tail isn't right, seems the spine isn't right. Once everything is softly in alignment, the tail hangs properly. So if you think your horse has pain, check the tail.
@bungodancereadie8018
@bungodancereadie8018 5 лет назад
Softly?
@ktgodwin100
@ktgodwin100 5 лет назад
I saw the tail issue as well. That is the first indication that something is not quite right on his top line.
@celestegiraitis7971
@celestegiraitis7971 6 лет назад
Great Video. To all those nay-sayers....I've had a bad back on/off for the last 20 years, and I felt just like the horse! When the physical therapist would push his thumb in the right place (the sore spot) I'd feel like he had just stabbed me with a knife and my whole body would just about jump off the table. In the video, he's using a piece of wood to find the sore spots, probably because a horses hide is much thicker than human skin, so he needs more pressure to find them. I give this guy tons of credit. Chiropractic adjustment can be very uncomfortable, the relief comes later. But you can't tell a horse that, the horse has to learn to trust that he'll live through this, and the relief will come later. Great job guy!!!
@edcrothers2081
@edcrothers2081 6 лет назад
Celeste Giraitis thanks for the kind words
@JH-lz4ky
@JH-lz4ky 5 лет назад
NEIGH sayers!
@CllConnie
@CllConnie 5 лет назад
Horse's skin is not thicker than ours, but I am sure that using the dowel does have some advantage; perhaps it enables him to better isolate the exact spot, or exact vertabra?
@keithpatterson690
@keithpatterson690 5 лет назад
Ĺ))ÓĶ
@renaemenard5981
@renaemenard5981 5 лет назад
Not to disappoint you but horse skin (hide) is way thicker than that of humans. Which is why centuries ago people of many nations including ours had to use skins aka hides for their clothing and as material for the structures they lived in. Tepees etc, using buffalo, their horses when they died etc. The people of old did NOT live in structures made of super thin skin/hides like Bubba's butt. Sorry, you could have used Charmin or Viva & made better sense.
@isahighlander4825
@isahighlander4825 6 лет назад
I know you said that this is a horse that does not listen, yet by the 7th minute into the video, I was convinced he was a horse that listened too much; given the amount of attention the horse was paying to whoever was recording this video.
@kk294Darlene
@kk294Darlene 7 лет назад
thanks for sharing this is great! Nice to see someone who takes extra time to look and listen, in doing so found out there's more than meets the eye initially I was so pleased to see you had made such a difference in the wonderful animals life in just a short video's time. God Bless you for taking the time to help these wonderful creatures, (Horse) is my favorite animal.
@thecrothersway
@thecrothersway 7 лет назад
Thank you for the kind word Dar! I have been dojng clinics for the last 10 years trying to show and teach people that 90% of disrespect is caused from pain.
@1thankful
@1thankful 6 лет назад
Dar Are you kidding?!?! NOTHING WAS FIXED!
@8bamboo
@8bamboo 6 лет назад
This is really interesting. So glad you posted it! I’ve never seen a horse get adjusted like that! It’s certainly opened my eyes. What a lucky horse to have found you to fix it’s problems. I’ve never known another trainer to even bring up pain as an issue with a “problem” horse.
@somebodyswatchin5
@somebodyswatchin5 6 лет назад
Absolutely, Mr. Crothers! Thank you for your contribution to the Equine world! Having owned, raised and trained my Anglo Arabian from a colt, there is more than meets the eye on a horse's behavior as it relates to their well-being. Animals cannot TELL us - but they can Show us~ Their recovery in health and training depends upon the human's knowledge, sensitivity and patience, powers of observance... and experience as to their success in becoming or returning to a well dispositioned and collected animal. Suffering is not allowed in my book!! So wonderful, what you are doing and have accomplished, ~ Thank You!!
@Nafretiti85
@Nafretiti85 6 лет назад
I read once that horses can hide pain really well, so its very important to know stuff like this.
@kenkozma9894
@kenkozma9894 6 лет назад
Glad your able to help that horse.
@christinestill5002
@christinestill5002 6 лет назад
Trying to understand but the sound is hard to understand with the echo in that barn. This man is like a horse chiropractor ? Amazing.
@colleenhill5138
@colleenhill5138 5 лет назад
I am so in love with this video.... I took a well trained young horse to a "Certified Sponsored Trainer" for 30 to 60 days saddle only time while I was recovering from a major surgery.... I went and checked in on my horse as often as possible, but even before the 1st 30 days were up, my son and I could not even find my horse in the stable.... We began to panic until after about the fourth walk through the barn a strange horse lunged his head into the breezeway and tried to bite me.... I was horrified... and upon further investigation... and to my horror found it was my once beautiful young horse.... of which we had had since he was a young 4 month old colt.... after taking him home immediately, allowing him to relax and gain much needed weight with his herd. We began working with him again. This time, under our direct supervision as I was still healing. A healing that after 5 years is still ongoing.... I recently met a chiropractor / horse trainer and asked him to work with him after he made several trips out to adjust this horse and many others.... I heard and took the lashings about how spoiled he was, this that and the other.... I knew he was not spoiled, nor disrespectful but had two issues... Pain and trust.... my horse now 9 yrs old... has beautiful manners.. after a short time I was asked to come get my horse. I sure wish this gentleman could work with mine, he seems to have a full understanding of pain, trust, and manners...... So happy to have seen this....
@jdoveyk9422
@jdoveyk9422 5 лет назад
This is not a training video this is a chiropractic release video. The moves he is making are to identify where the pain is, he has to locate based on the type of movements that trigger. He says clearly enough that the owner sent this horse to MANY trainers and none could fix his issues because it was thought behavioral. He says the owner will tire this horse out for 2 hours to get it to comply finally to saddle etc. That is a clueless owner! This guy has literally just saved this horses life. This horse has been put through the ringer with neck pain, back pain and hip out of joint. Also it has an ulcer and needs different feed and medication. Anyone who actually watched and listened to this entire video could not in any way deduce this was abusive or quackery, unless you are mentally unstable and have too much of an ego to learn something. Thank GOD for compassionate people who are willing to listen and watch the body language of the animal instead of beating it into submission. All the training in the world wouldn’t have fixed what was wrong with this beautiful horse. Well done and yes the audio would be better if it was on a mike on the person and not on the camera. Bless your continued healing of animals.
@bjdenil
@bjdenil 6 лет назад
Is there a follow up video? If not could you give an update?
@RandyWatson80
@RandyWatson80 4 года назад
Horse killed him
@terryrussel523
@terryrussel523 7 лет назад
I've been learning about this for over 35 years. Seen it work on racehorses, endurance horses, cows, sheep and the kids ponies. It's amazing how many idiots laughed at the chiropractic treatments and healing techniques back then that have been practiced in other parts of the world for over 4,000 years. And for the same reasons Herbal Medicine is all but outlawed in America. It's all about learning to recognize the body language.
@royblair1738
@royblair1738 6 лет назад
Terry Diesel o9
@windridr66
@windridr66 4 года назад
Terry Russel. Thank you.
@ce1581
@ce1581 7 лет назад
this man is an equine chiropractor not an effing trainer and he helped this animal and any real horse lover/caregiver can tell he knows exactly what he's doing . so mr crothers thanks for trying to educate people who really care about their horses .
@marlinpeight2819
@marlinpeight2819 7 лет назад
Carole Elliott amen well said ,this is one heck of a good horse ,ur average horse ppl are always scared of horses like this
@thecrothersway
@thecrothersway 7 лет назад
Thank you Carole!
@bungodancereadie8018
@bungodancereadie8018 5 лет назад
Carole Elliott, he certainly is not an equine chiropractor, nor any other kind of chiropractor.....good grief!
@helenparker3540
@helenparker3540 5 лет назад
Let the horse be the judge lady, not you. After the fellow tapped it near the rear the horse's body language showed immediate relief. The horse stands totally relaxed next to the man at the end, not fearful or angry. Whatever the guy's title is, the horse seemed to trust him.
@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her
@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her 7 лет назад
To all the people who think this man is a lousy trainer and that the horse is scared... please read this before complaining: Did you even watch the video and listen to his commentary? He's a chiropractor, not a trainer. Do you expect your doctor to treat you the same as your boss or friend? He's simply showing how to spot pain in a horse rather than chalking it up as bad behavior, finding out where the horse hurts, then addressing the out of place joints by popping them back into alignment. You can sometimes hear the popping if you listen carefully. By the third pop, you can see the horse start to realize it's helping. They still edge away since the popping is still new and intense, but eventually they tolerate it. Then at the end, you can see their smoother gait and more relaxed posture. If you care about horses, then you should be overjoyed to see a medical professional educate everyone that "problem" horses may just be in pain, and showing how fixing those issues can be quick and simple... then resulting in the horse feeling better. :)
@jessrosas17
@jessrosas17 7 лет назад
vorpalalice82 no I'm the owner and this horse has been unpredictable and dangerous since I brought him home. This very reason is why he went to 4 trainers. Ed was the only one to get thru to him. Shadow no longer rears or flips out like he did, at a drop of a hat, for no reason. Stay thirsty though!
@thecrothersway
@thecrothersway 7 лет назад
Thank you ZaCloud Animations. Im just trying to show people they need to check there horses for pain befor thinking their horse just has behavioral problems!
@irenecarhart
@irenecarhart 6 лет назад
ZaCloud Animations I could see him sticking something in his pocket when his hand went over the horse and came back and he said I just touched another spot! Watch it again and keep your eye on this hands and you can see him slipping something back in his pocket I don't know what it is but it wasn't the Sandpaper things he have on his hands. It was in his right pocket I believe. I believe he was hurting the horse was something else. I'm not denying the horse was in pain I'm just saying that I believe that he was using something else besides the sandpaper his strength.
@crazygoatlady4287
@crazygoatlady4287 6 лет назад
It was a wooden dowel to check for pressure point pain. That way he could zero in on the vertebra that was actually hurting. My chiropractor uses his hands and fingers.
@janna59
@janna59 6 лет назад
Thank you and bravo!! I can ony think that the people making the comments that this guy doesn't know what he is doing are not horse people,, or animal people,, it is so obvious that he helped this horse!! and I don't even OWN a horse!!! some people are too closed minded and small minded to be open to LEARNING ,, maybe it makes them feel stupid to have to admit that they don't know everything..
@leeeady7011
@leeeady7011 6 лет назад
I think he was spot on about the horse being in pain that caused him to react the way he did. What he did not address was what are the possible causes: 1)a result of being resistant to training...slips or falls 2) a result of underlying lameness issues that caused him to compensate how he moved and got him sore 3)ill fitting saddle causing altered movements 4) confirmation that does not favor what he is being asked to do 5) conditioning- muscles support and stabilize joints and when he was being lunged excessively the muscles were fatigued to the point he could not stabilize properly which transfers force to a joint causing an insult then the pain cycle starts 6) rider that does not sit or balance well causing horse to alter his movements which causes the pain.
@debstovervillarreal4348
@debstovervillarreal4348 5 лет назад
sounds like he might have a bean too. We had a horse boarder who made that same sound when he had a bean.
@elizabethjansen2684
@elizabethjansen2684 3 года назад
What is a bean?
@rebeccariel2872
@rebeccariel2872 6 лет назад
Is there a follow-up video on this horse's progress? It's amazing how much better he was in just one session.
@graceamazing5981
@graceamazing5981 6 лет назад
SO glad this is available now ! One chilly misty day my 'favorite' horse & I went for a ride, but he was not 'right' and he began rearing. We were on slippery pavement (coming off the nice grassy field) and he would not stay down so, to avoid him going over and getting both of us hurt, I slid off....(easy to do bareback) but he kept rearing and was then striking. A few days of trying to figure out what was wrong, and hoping he was 'himself' again, I put the halter on and went to lead him out, but as soon as the bottom of the halter touched his bottom jaw, he winced and jerked a bit....WHOA! O..O = I pulled down his bottom lip and discovered a huge abcess, very close to where the bit rests! It took a few days of phone calls to find a vet who was willing to remove the infected tooth! Most said that it couldn't be done without breaking his jaw!!! (this was 50 years ago when there was little technology) We spent many more fun and exciting years on the trails in these mountains. i like a good challenge, but that was way too much excitement for this horsewoman!!! We all need to be aware of these possibilities !
@MsMichelleangel
@MsMichelleangel 6 лет назад
you could probably learn a lot by watching Klaus Hempfling. A master horse man
@maretwatson1229
@maretwatson1229 6 лет назад
Lots of this man's tencnique is okay, ha is taking time, he is trying to ensure the horse does not get hurt by going backwards, the only thin he is doing is clicking the horse away when it is too close to the rope, too close with head into the wall, and it is too soon for the saddle, horse is still terrified of "everything" terrified shows by it pooping constantly, it stomach is frightened. needs more time.... he has possibly hurt himself by going backwards, both at the poll and his back-bone - has someone put the rope "over his wither and inbetween his front legs for the pulling at halter problem? What a nice frightened horse hope they take more time and show him no more pain...I once purchase a throughbred off Tack, could not go near his poss for a year! till he learned to trust. does not happen FAST. questions should these adjustments not go on both sides?
@wagal50
@wagal50 5 лет назад
Be kind to that horse!
@mustardseed308
@mustardseed308 7 лет назад
Difficult to understand what ur saying.
@bonnie448
@bonnie448 7 лет назад
Yes the sound is very poor, such a shame since I really wanted to know what he was saying. It was not too bad at first, but now in the middle, almost impossible to understand. sad really.
@equinefine59
@equinefine59 7 лет назад
Yes he sure does need to do something about the sound. Would make it a lot more enjoyable.
@thecrothersway
@thecrothersway 7 лет назад
Sorry for the poor sound quality. I will fix that problem in my future videos.
@cherylvantil6918
@cherylvantil6918 6 лет назад
The poor sound quality makes the video very hard to watch.
@egparis18
@egparis18 6 лет назад
Couldn't you put subtitles on? It's really unintelligible in spots. A great pity.
@WayaAskin
@WayaAskin 6 лет назад
Thank you so very much for making videos like this so people can understand horses are good animals who want to be good. He kept licking his lips from the beginning as if he was saying, "I want to be good but it hurts!" One thing: In parts of your video, the sound was echoing quite a bit, making it difficult to understand what you were saying. I know that's a bit hard to overcome in an echo-y space like a round pen inside a barn. I sure was wanting to hear what you had to say. I've never seen a horse being adjusted before. That was awesome! I hope Michelle and her horse have many good years together.
@Bear-Ur2ez
@Bear-Ur2ez 6 лет назад
I like the way you understand and look for the underlying problems and the fact a horse has a greater issue . And not the fact they don't want to cooperate . Very educational . Thank you so much for sharing .
@jeannegraham6742
@jeannegraham6742 5 лет назад
Bear 76
@shirleyshifflett2702
@shirleyshifflett2702 5 лет назад
Please
@shirleyshifflett2702
@shirleyshifflett2702 5 лет назад
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@shirleyshifflett2702
@shirleyshifflett2702 5 лет назад
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@Michele0403
@Michele0403 6 лет назад
Very interesting... Just wish you had better acoustics in the barn. And, I'd like to see a close-up of the piece of wood that you are using.
@karendeeside4494
@karendeeside4494 6 лет назад
Loved watching this, but audio quality is awful.
@maggied8468
@maggied8468 7 лет назад
Such a difference in the horses nervousness. Lovely to see improvement. Pain is life changing.
@daphnebravedawn2522
@daphnebravedawn2522 7 лет назад
Margaret Davies And for horses, pain is fear increasing.
@petercam1776
@petercam1776 6 лет назад
Margaret Davies mujjj
@daisy-zy1ur
@daisy-zy1ur 6 лет назад
I have no idea what all of that above has to do with a horse ????
@cherylross2943
@cherylross2943 6 лет назад
The only thing that is Outlaw is the Man talking. He's a phony trainer, and his antics are bullshit
@somebodyswatchin5
@somebodyswatchin5 6 лет назад
Me neither nor this video!! A horrible injustice but irrelevant - I guess he just wanted to vent?! (0.0)/
@hoofhearted3035
@hoofhearted3035 6 лет назад
He's leaning on the rope because you have a web halter on. When ever he jumps back or moves away you take away the pressure...so he's learning that the pressure goes away when he moves away or jumps back. They are motivated by pressure but learn from the correctly timed release of that pressure. You probably already know this, but you're not practicing it. Poor horse.
@joannklonowski5629
@joannklonowski5629 6 лет назад
Tenn Walker :) pretty Hock action
@AnnieR1965
@AnnieR1965 5 лет назад
How awesome that this man can make horses feel better. God bless you sir!
@spotteddog1716
@spotteddog1716 5 лет назад
I’m sure I’m gonna get feedback from this but I’m going to say anyway. First of all I’ve had to have two spinal cord Surgeries due to the fact that I’m a firefighter/paramedic and destroyed my neck and my lumbar area. Who do you think diagnosed both of them? A chiropractor. When I went to regular doctors they kept saying there was nothing wrong. Fast forward to both MRIs and guess what ?then all of a sudden the doctors were willing to help me. So I guess I’m a little partial to human chiropractors. But I dated a guy that was an excellent chiropractor who only worked with emergency services people so he was very into spine etc. he also was a horse chiropractor. A very well known one.He did race horses, showhorses etc. And I went with him a couple of times and let me tell you after he adjusted them they would actually nuzzle him and love on him. I understand both sides but there are legitimate and very helpful chiropractors out there. For both humans and animals.
@Galemor1
@Galemor1 5 лет назад
It's a beautiful horse.. Many off his painproblems, seems to come from the very popular rollkur training, which put exctreme pressure on these points of the horses body. I am glad the new owner was willing to give this horse a better future, finding his problems and getting them fixed. My mare wasn't a problem horse, but she had been ridden very thight by her previous rider, so she had a lot of tension built up in her body, I did get some off just by riding on long reins and asking her to stretch as much as she could, like when trotting, she could trot as fast as she wanted to, but she wasn't allowed to switch to gallop, and that really helped. But she still had some issues/stiffness/tension, which I later found out was because she had artirithis in her back legs. (didn't remeber the legal term, but where bone grow a bridge and makes her joints less flexible) anyway, I didn't know, the previous owner didn't tell me about it and I had a guy do this, finding her hurting points and fix them, but she didn't always get better, and that was because he didn't know about the condition (since I didn't know and therefore hadn't told him) so what I am trying to say, is: Make sure to have a vet check your horse, take x-rays and stuff, so when you have someone helping you, they are aware and can do things differently. Again beautiful horse.
@GmaPat89
@GmaPat89 5 лет назад
A horse chiropractor! Impressive!!
@kkdoc7864
@kkdoc7864 5 лет назад
Tenderness under the proximal ventral abdomen does not mean ulcer necessarily. Human chiropractors make all kinds of diagnostic mistakes IMO. One was treating the neck of a woman with tingling in the C5 -6 dermatome without checking for a rash. Turns out she had shingles which I diagnosed over the phone.
@mistyhuggins
@mistyhuggins 5 лет назад
lucky lady you came along, or she called ya
@edenstarr5740
@edenstarr5740 5 лет назад
I've experienced all kinds of misdiagnosis. Seems par for the course in all medical professions... It's why follow-ups and second opinions are so crucial. :)
@timothyhilton3408
@timothyhilton3408 6 лет назад
I have never been much around horses.........just came across this video by chance. [although I don't believe in chance....or luck] I am though, interested deeply in human disfunction [including my own] and while watching this video I was touched for a few reasons. One, I realize now that we [including me] misjudge one another because we have very little understanding of how pain distorts human behavior and so we are master judgers instead of master healers, thus we compound and misunderstand the problems in ourselves and others. Two, there are very few human beings, it seems, who understand a human's pain and disfunction in the way that Ed Crothers understands horse's pain and disfunction. So very few of us human's ever get healed of our own pain and disfunction. Where are the healer's of human's? The last realization I had is that human's and horse's have one thing in common: a good portion of the pain and disfunction that human's and horse's all share comes from abuse from the human Kingdom. Not just men, but from woman as well. Not saying or implying in any way, that the current owner had anything to do with this horse's pain. It's obvious that this horse has had quite a journey, yet it is a beautiful and touching experience to see this horse's journey finally come to a point of connection with Ed's Love , compassion, understanding and Healing. Something deeper is being touched here, in that all of us are on this bus together and if a horse can be healed, or be put on the path of being healed, so can all of the rest of us, no matter how broken and pained we find ourselves now. I watched the movie "The Horse Whisperer a decade ago and it brought tears to my eye's to see the trauma of a horse and a young girl and the Love and compassion of a Human brought together for the healing of their pain and trauma. My eyes moistened again today watching Ed work with this horse in this video a few moments ago. Just want to say Thank's to Ed Crother's for unlocking some of the secret's of Heaven and Healing and for showing me that God Love's all creatures...... great and small.
@edcrothers2081
@edcrothers2081 6 лет назад
Thanks for the kind words
@raynebrafford8124
@raynebrafford8124 6 лет назад
What a beautiful tribute to a very special person that has devoted his life to helping horses.
@cowgirlval5216
@cowgirlval5216 7 лет назад
GOOD JOB Cowboy👍
@matthewpalm7071
@matthewpalm7071 6 лет назад
Valerie Bledsoe i
@angelacollier9256
@angelacollier9256 6 лет назад
wow...a horse chiropracter.. awesome! Must share with my chiro friend.
@rondaschmeichel8341
@rondaschmeichel8341 5 лет назад
This is amazing !
@rasamanjari
@rasamanjari 6 лет назад
He's such a beautiful horse and appears to be young, highly intelligent and fit. How is it he is in so much chronic pain?
@shazam964
@shazam964 5 лет назад
Very good video, here are my suggestions for this lovely gelding: Include in the daily diet Manuka Honey UMF 30+ for the ulcer 1Tbs daily, as well as yoghurt added to diet. endless supply of hay to feed the hind gut, Homeopathic Rhus Tox 30c for body pains. Session should have been finished off with 'Tellington T Touch' to reset nervous system and stop muscle memory.
@CattledogsKigers
@CattledogsKigers 6 лет назад
Was there a follow-up video to this horses progress?
@heathertisdale9552
@heathertisdale9552 7 лет назад
I wouldn't be surprised if its owner made this horse agitated & angry in the first place !!
@jessrosas17
@jessrosas17 7 лет назад
I'm the owner and no - horse always had issues since I brought him home. 4 trainers total. Ed was only one to get thru to him. But thanks for your concern....
@mdee860
@mdee860 4 года назад
Thank you for being a SMART, KIND chiropractor. I think this horse has neck damage & nerve damage. His back legs seem like borderline neuropathy or sciatica? Poor baby, he's so nice when nothing is hurting him. My ex-racehorse had a nerve too close to the skin in girth area. Once out of every 200 saddling up - if the girth was forward/ off by 1/4 inch - he would spasm & go ballistic, stiff front legs, almost falling down, whites of his eyes, etc. I had to quickly reach in to immediately loosen the girth & then everything would return to normal. I do wonder how many times he was beaten for his spasm at the race track??
@SuperSapphireStone
@SuperSapphireStone 7 лет назад
There is no such thing as a "Problem horse" just problem people.
@carolynprins622
@carolynprins622 7 лет назад
Yes there is.
@SuperSapphireStone
@SuperSapphireStone 7 лет назад
Danica Prins Bullshit
@katethomason7352
@katethomason7352 7 лет назад
There is, if you know anything about horses or any animal you would know this "bullshit". Congrats man your an idiot.
@SuperSapphireStone
@SuperSapphireStone 7 лет назад
Kate the toilet No you're the idiot. A horse is a reflection of its owner. Whenever there's a "problem" with the horse, it's ALWAYS the owners fault because they set the horse up to fail. You would know that if you knew a damn thing about horse behavior. But you know... you can't argue with stupid.
@spanenburgl3311
@spanenburgl3311 7 лет назад
Kelly nell a horse was beaten in the past, and now has a new owner. The owner tries to pet him en he attack's out of fear. Is this an reflection of the new owner ? ( Sorry for the not so great English) ps: i'm not trying to attack you, it's just a simple question ☺️
@124bucket
@124bucket 6 лет назад
a remote mike would be good
@Gigi-uc8cz
@Gigi-uc8cz 5 лет назад
You keep touching him in very painful places and then you tell the horse to calm down and it’s okay. But you keep doing it over and over and over and over. So how is he supposed to trust you. He is being vocal and jumping up. What does he have to do? Jump and land on someone. You should have called a horse chiropractor. Yes, their are horse chiropractors. Also an acupuncturist.
@nikifisher7980
@nikifisher7980 6 лет назад
Makes ya wonder how many problem horses may just be in pain and no one noticed!!
@TruthArrows
@TruthArrows 6 лет назад
Ed Crothers Is this horse a Tennessee Walker? I ask because I've known several dark bay Walkers like this horse that went through "big lick" show "training" that's typically abusive both physically and psychologically. I think they come from the same small group of so called trainers and from similar blood lines. The horses not only have anxiety but seem to have full on panic attacks. They seem well trained but it's out of fear not trust and mutual communication. Just a hunch I've picked up on in the last few decades with a certain line of horses from the same general area. I think this group of horses suffer mentally as well as physically from being beaten with 2x4s and doing exagerated gates under saddle, like the "big lick". In my experience they benefit greatly from letting them heal mentally by helping them relax, trust, taking some demand and pressure off and just letting them be horses for a bit while you're helping them relax and trust and healing them physically. You do good work by thinking outside of the box and trying to understand horses better. Peace
@jodymaley3674
@jodymaley3674 6 лет назад
WhenTheWindigoComes - the Big Lick style training is mechanical, hoof length, heavy shoes, chains on ankles, plus chemical irritation to create conditioned foot snapping response. They literally take a pacer and square their gait into a hyperextendended running walk. I have fought against "training" practice this for 40+ years. The pain points are similar to the racing standardbred
@cathy-70
@cathy-70 4 года назад
People don't realize when our skeleton gets out of alignment pressure is put on nerves. Get alignment corrected off nerves and muscles and much relief from pain. So glad this man is doing this work for horses. Horse chiropractor. Awesome.
@chateaumojo
@chateaumojo 2 года назад
The audio is very poor and there are no captions. I'd sure like to know what your're saying.
@joannedavis1991
@joannedavis1991 5 лет назад
Wow, that’s the most amazing thing I have ever seen! This man is incredible with his knowledge of horses and techniques to help it. Just amazing.
@matteya5856
@matteya5856 6 лет назад
I loved seeing him lick his lips after adjusting. He knew you were helping him.
@joankyde602
@joankyde602 8 лет назад
I liked watching you work with this horse. It was interesting and informative. I want to see the two of you in a few more get togethers and when you are riding him.
@deniseelliott3986
@deniseelliott3986 6 лет назад
Love this. Incredible to see how in-tune you are to horses, and understanding their pain. Fantastic!
@KMF3
@KMF3 6 лет назад
I wish you could fix me of all my pain issues.
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