If You Think New Trucks Are Thirsty, Watch This! | Cheap Toyotas Ep.5

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@MrWilliam.Stewart 10 месяцев назад

The under $20,000 over 100,000 Mile Toyota challenge is proving to be most entertaining.

@robertoramos8257 10 месяцев назад

I think it was technically under 10k over 200k miles but yeah it’s a good series

@WW-wf8tu 10 месяцев назад

@@robertoramos8257 Pretty sure that was sarcasm pointing out how they did not work inside their own parameters. ;)

@phild9813 10 месяцев назад

The only person who actually followed the rules got the best mileage.

@robertoramos8257 10 месяцев назад

@@WW-wf8tu oh haha my bad guess i didnt catch the sarcasm lol

@davidglover5914 10 месяцев назад

Yeah makes you wonder what the point is...? Pick any other brand and see how it compares... Just sayin

@andyharman3022 10 месяцев назад

The TFL guys have the best on-screen chemistry of car guys knocking about since May, Hammond, and Clarkson on Top Gear.

@JumboRelic 10 месяцев назад

Nathan is a breath of fresh air for this channel.

@omardevonlittle3817 10 месяцев назад

All the TFL guys are a bit quirky. Like real people. I think it's a huge part of their giant success 😂🍻

@UintaDave 10 месяцев назад

He’s the OG

@user-hd8ej8yx9p 10 месяцев назад

Hasn’t he been here for years?

@UintaDave 10 месяцев назад

@@user-hd8ej8yx9p oh yes

@wolverine350r 10 месяцев назад

@@user-hd8ej8yx9pall of them I believe.

@GameEsthetics 10 месяцев назад

Just when I am about to go to bed at 4am TFL uploads

@RonnN-gf8tm 10 месяцев назад

4 am..? Thts when I'm outta bed getting ready for work

@gabriels8653 10 месяцев назад

Literally same😂

@paulharsh78 10 месяцев назад

It’s breakfast time.

@rustbucket9318 10 месяцев назад

Bro, 4:00am is your bedtime? Guessing you work some weird graveyard shift?

@GameEsthetics 10 месяцев назад

@@rustbucket9318 Nope, I was just up late cause it was Friday 🍻

@RonnN-gf8tm 10 месяцев назад

Im enjoying this cheap truck Toyota series...you guys put in an Awesome effort making these videos

@kore996 10 месяцев назад

I enjoy the camaraderie between them all, and that they take a little digs at each other throughout the videos I’ve watched.

@Shyguy624 10 месяцев назад

I gotta say i was very impressed with that old 4runner, did very good on the trails and the gas mileage was impressive. Out of all of them id take the 4runner

@gideonstitt9995 10 месяцев назад

I suspect a lot of the results can be explained by the fact that the first 60 miles were uphill to the Eisenhower Tunnel, followed by 200 miles of downhill to Fruita. Regardless, interesting results and a great video.

@gr330zhp 10 месяцев назад

We own a Tundra 1794 and 2nd gen Sequoia SR5. The 5.7L is an absolute workhorse! I really enjoyed this series!

@hellkitty1014 10 месяцев назад

It really is. Toyota really overbuilt the internals of that engine. Everything is super beefy.

@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806 10 месяцев назад

@@hellkitty1014 Overbuilt, sure 100%. Way tougher than GM's 5.3, but if there is a failure, it can get expensive to fix very quickly.

@scottyellis3442 10 месяцев назад

Not long enough. I really enjoy these episodes so this one wasn't long enough, Now I've gotta wait another week. In all seriousness this is by far the best Car/truck review channel on RU-vid by far "in my opinion" I look forward to watching every episode that comes on. Thanks for all the work you put into bringing us reviews, testing, & just plain ole good entertainment. Keep up the good work.

@texasaim776 10 месяцев назад

Favorite series on the channel!

@live4mac 10 месяцев назад

I was actually shocked at how decent the fuel economy was on all 3 of them, given the tires and terrain. When Roman showed the range rover trip meter which showed an average of 55mph it all made sense. In Texas, my average road trip speeds are closer to 75-80mph where my 5.7L Grand Cherokee does about 17-18mpg. I've never driven that stretch of Colorado to Utah but I'm sure it's a lot more scenic and worth slowing down for! Great series as always! I'd love to see you continue it and show what these vehicles can be modified into on a reasonable budget. Every off road vehicle seems to have a budget build configuration that then requires an extensive modification or budget to go beyond. Usually around 2" of lift and 32 or 33" tires. Comparing them in that configuration gives a much better representation of the platform for a weekend budget off roader.

@smuckerst8355 10 месяцев назад

I’m not surprised, especially the 4runner (since I own one). The higher altitude makes it run lean (less air means makes the computer compensate with less fuel per stroke). Less power but more mpg. From years of tracking my 4runner it goes up 2 mpg around that altitude. So sea level would be less impressive.

@derekmunguia8766 10 месяцев назад

Okay….These cheap vehicle/ budget vehicle series are awesome. I think it would be awesome to try a couple different stages of upgrades, resulting in multiple videos. The hunt/ purchase process is always interesting. Next, first stage, safety first. All items to be safe on road. Then they get the first off road test/ shake down. Take them to their limit. Second stage: first set of upgrades. Every car has different needs, so set a budget and allow for creativity. Level two shakedown. Then the minimum+ level. All levels are to create more off road worthiness at each stage. So many videos could be made. You guys are awesome. Great content.

@patrickirish8110 10 месяцев назад

I've got to echo the comments of others: I truly enjoy these types of vids. You guys absolutely nail them every time.

@anengineer_ 10 месяцев назад

1:54 that's the OG! 😂 You guys are awesome!

@toobalicious 10 месяцев назад

What a great way to start out my Saturday morning: cuppa and a TFL video. Thanks guys!

@bakercito723 10 месяцев назад

Our family had a huge car payment on a very nice sienna which had a transmission problem so I sold it and bought and 07 sequoia for cash with 200k miles and I save $400/mo even with the bad mpg.

@Pantelifts10 10 месяцев назад

I love those series. Had 2 Tundras the last 5 years (2010 TRD, 2015 SR5) . Now down to one and an HD. Best of both worlds 😁

@keving5120 10 месяцев назад

I’m always happy when my 5.7 tundra gets over 17 mpg. I do a mix of city and hwy and usually average about 14.5, but I’ve gotten as high as 22.5 when going downhill with the wind at my back😅

@schadlarry 10 месяцев назад

The 4Runner was impressive. Just finished my first road trip on new Falkens and only got 20 mpg 02 tacoma. The Landcruiser was much better than expected. Not daily driver good but weekend warrior good enough.

@joshuajay2886 9 месяцев назад

How fast were you driving

@schadlarry 9 месяцев назад

@@joshuajay2886 I keep it around 70. I would usually get 20-22. I live in NM but when I go back East the mpg goes to shit in OK and MO. Don’t know why.

@Polo_187 7 месяцев назад

@@schadlarry I believe at higher altitudes where air is less dense and less oxygen , the ECU injects less fuel and you get less power but better mpgs. When you have dense oxygen rich air it allows more fuel injection so more power but less mpgs. I noticed this in my 1.6l civic I used to get almost 350 miles out of a tank and after I replaced a bad O2 sensor, it felt noticeably better but now I can barely get 300 miles.

@bradythegenius2123 10 месяцев назад

Love these series’….. my favorite one was the old one with that red jeep with transmission problems and Andre’s little Mazda pickup

@ecidemon5672 10 месяцев назад

Biggest upgrade i made was from my 97 4runner 3.4 inline to my 03 4.7 limited, sans that 404 frame not found issue - it makes way more power and gets better mileage, even with 245k miles. Having said that, when I got my 97 I said the only reason I'd sell it was to get a newer one. Rock solid, even at 16mpg hwy.

@Stevemax07 10 месяцев назад

Love the flat bill hat and pants joke! I literally died laughing!

@hellkitty1014 10 месяцев назад

I don't care, I'm still taking the 80 Series! There is a huge JDM aftermarket for those I-6s.

@Antares_451 10 месяцев назад

Not surprised with any of them especially the 4runner.. I have a 96 4runner Limited, shes a beast, going on 16yrs now..

@texboyporsche944 10 месяцев назад

I have a 1998 Toyota 4runner with almost exactly the same millage. I do have a lift and slightly bigger tires but it is driven on flat land in Texas. I get about 15 mpg on a good day.

@OldThomMerton 6 месяцев назад

I am usually on it and watching these videos as they come out . . . can't believe I'm 3 months late?! Great series as usual, guys!

@montyboy5436 9 месяцев назад

Once again, you guys make me proud to own my beautiful 08 SR5 TRD Pro Tundra! With 239K on the clock.🎉

@kadenschaberg3947 10 месяцев назад

I have a (newer than nathan's) 4th gen 4runner and I really resonated with his comments about it being underpowered. I did some small power upgrades like bigger exhaust (headers back) and a cold air intake with a tune. It gave me the extra power I wanted and some extra fuel efficiency. Factory MPG is 17-19 city/highway respectively and I get 18-19 city and 21-22 highway with that little bit of extra power

@elonsus9747 8 месяцев назад

The V8 is the one to get in the 4th gen’s.

@THEH2OMAN 9 месяцев назад

My 2007 5.7L Tundra has 315,000 miles and delivers about 20 mpg on the highway at 55 to 60 mph, it drops to about 16.5 mpg when I am traveling at about 80 mph. Not bad for a 17 year old Tundra that I paid $5k for, and still does 0 to 60 in 6 seconds.

@Queensizemusic 10 месяцев назад

I’m stunned the FZJ80 is getting such incredible mileage!! In the mountains! At altitude!! I live in Malibu and I average 8 mpg in town and roughly 12 mpg on the freeway. Granted, I have 35’s, winch bar, and a laden drawer system in the back, but I’m still floored by how well Nathan is doing. Thanks for this great series. I hope you make Land Cruiser vids for the rest of the year!

@pel6586 10 месяцев назад

Really awesome videos with these older Toyotas and seeing how they act after a few years on the road

@benjaminmorse9263 10 месяцев назад

I absolutely love the cheap truck challenges. Thank you for making my day better especially Nathan. Idea for the next cheap challenge diesel 2500 series trucks under 12-15K

@toyota_jeep4x471 9 месяцев назад

There's aren't many things that I love more in this world than cheap Toyota 4x4s.

@PatrickRich 10 месяцев назад

The 4runner surprised me. The others did not. I'm actually pretty impressed that you got nearly 16 mpg on the 80 series. You're effectively regeared on that 80 which helps on the highway, but obviously does not help with power on the hills.

@ryan56976 10 месяцев назад

I really like that little montage at the end.

@KendrasEdge757 10 месяцев назад

My 21’ TRD ORP gets 21-22 highway and 19-20 city. It’s all in how you drive them.

@trailrunnah8886 10 месяцев назад

Yeah, very rarely do I get under 20 MPG with my 2013 Trail Edition with 165k.

@KendrasEdge757 10 месяцев назад

@@trailrunnah8886 yeah I’ve called a lot of people out on Reddit over the mpg’s and posted pics to prove it. Those claiming they get 15-16 are driving them like their V8’s and they’re not and won’t built for that.

@trailrunnah8886 10 месяцев назад

@@KendrasEdge757 exactly! There's no getting around that. It's a slow vehicle, so if you just drive it gently you can actually get pretty good mileage. I've had people on the forums call me out saying that I'm lying that I get over 20 mpg. It's like no, I just don't drive like an a-hole, haha. I think a lot of Tacoma and 4Runner owners come from Subarus or other little cars where they're so used to just flooring it all the time.

@KendrasEdge757 10 месяцев назад

@@trailrunnah8886 I had to get used to it myself. I traded my 15’ 6,7 powerstroke on my 21’ 4Runner and first thing I noticed was the power difference lol but I know it’s just a 4ltr v6 built for reliability and enough power to get you around. I’m good with that. My toy/ticket days are over. For the most part anyways lol

@RichtrucktionTv 10 месяцев назад

Lmaoooo Nathan cracks me up

@davidwelty9763 10 месяцев назад

Loved this series.

@mattandshelleymccool4753 10 месяцев назад

Regarding the 4Runner going up I-70: at least it's not a 22re! As a kid I would visit my Aunts and Uncles in CO and took many rides up to the ski hill in a '91. I was young, but I still remember the frustrated look on my uncle's face as he rapped that thing out in 2nd gear in the right lane!

@glen7201 10 месяцев назад

Being a 2nd gen Tundra owner,I am partial to it. But having worked for Toyota for 20 years through the 80s and 90s, I spent alot of time in all of those vehicles and my father in law had an fj80 we regrettably sold after he could no longer drive. Fact is you can't go wrong with any of these trucks,each has its own niche and fills it nicely.

@Stuka87 10 месяцев назад

People make a big todo about gas prices here in California, but my local prices are only 35 cents more than what it is there for the same octane (We don't have 85 here).

@VOX471 8 месяцев назад

When you get larger tires sometimes it's good to re-gear the difs

@willmtaylor 10 месяцев назад

Yes, they’re thirsty, but as someone who dailies a 100 Series and whose wife dailies an FJ Cruiser, while you spend on gas, you save on insurance, repair costs, headache, etc. totally worth it.

@THEjasonTDI 10 месяцев назад

15.7 due to the altitude. in 1996 I drove a brand new 80 series from Memphis to Chicago and it did a worst 9.8 and best 12.9. 75-82 mph. My 2003 120 series does 10-15 around southern WI on 33" tires.

@Lightbrighttight 10 месяцев назад

Interesting, I flew down to Reno NV from WA to pick up my 80. On the way back I averaged 15mpgs and that was going over 5 mph than the speed limit.

@danramirez4290 10 месяцев назад

I so enjoy the camaraderie in your videos!

@MrJcjet 10 месяцев назад

Love this series!! I've owned all 3 of those vehicles. The 4runner did better than mine ever did! Tundra was about what I'd usually get. LC was also surprisingly good for that drive! The quality of the hosts really make it with watching though. Thanks!

@441stainesphil5 10 месяцев назад

Great viewing as usual

@tbone9405 10 месяцев назад

Good series! Nice seeing these old Toyota’s

@trailrunnah8886 10 месяцев назад

Definitely surprising numbers. Something about the altitude helps with the fuel economy. I was visiting out there a few years ago from the east coast, was able to get 22 in a first gen Taco, and 25 in a Suburban.

@user-hd8ej8yx9p 10 месяцев назад

Dang less oxygen = higher mpg?

@ALMX5DP 10 месяцев назад

@@user-hd8ej8yx9p I think some arguments say there can be benefits due to less aerodynamic drag from the thinner air, and also lower pumping losses from the engine.

@cartopia6161 10 месяцев назад

I think Andre should sell his Colorado and buy the ‘08 Tundra from TFL. He would be much happier with the Tundra for what he does, not to mention having the reliability.

@ATLOffroad 10 месяцев назад

Really enjoyed this series. Another idea is a cheap Isuzu challenge. I saw an old Rodeo on the trails the other day and it was doing quite well. Kinda forgot about that brand.

@slscamg 10 месяцев назад

I think for me one thing that sticks out is how much better automatic transmissions are currently. They have at least twice the number of gears as these old trucks, but always seem to know the right gear to hold for the most part.

@masterdriveroftoyotazupr4164 3 месяца назад

7:14 4th Gen walking that 3rd gen like its parked 😂. Must of had the 2UZ-FE

@ricatiman 10 месяцев назад

Excellent! Your group test/road trips are epic fun, and always informative.

@1mlb704 10 месяцев назад

Great series boys, really enjoyed this! 🍻

@Timo_tambien 10 месяцев назад

I wish my 94 fzj80 on 35s got 15.7mpg. I can't get that on flat roads with a full tune up. Great work Nathan and great choice!

@crt5866 10 месяцев назад

I want you guys to do this again with old Ram trucks. I have a ram 250 from 1991 with a 5.9L gas v8. and it gets 8 miles per gallon completely unloaded XD

@Joshie2256 10 месяцев назад

Those throttle-body-injected engines were the worst for fuel economy and not good for power either. The Magnum 5.9/360 in a 1996 2500 4x4 with the small, stock tires would do 12.5 MPG in highway driving punctuated with climbs up bad roads. Similar truck with a 12V Cummins and 5-speed would do 13 MPG with a slide-in camper and enclosed car trailer.

@crt5866 10 месяцев назад

the v8 on my truck was before the even called it magnum, but I would guess they had very similar technology. @@Joshie2256

@taylormade710 10 месяцев назад

Andre driving the hoopty (junkyard), Nathan driving tradition, and Tommy in the hipster forerunner

@tactical_potato81 10 месяцев назад

Nathan sagging had me dying. I love you guys 😆

@pkvolare 10 месяцев назад

cheap series are the best

@wasupfool5692 10 месяцев назад

The 5.7 Tundra was an incredible truck, but man they were hard on gas, even harder than the Hemi

@hellkitty1014 10 месяцев назад

Yep. With Toyota using 4.10s and 4.30s exclusively, it made for a thirsty beast. But was super quick for the era and even kept up with the forced-induction trucks from Ford.

@THK619 10 месяцев назад

Still driving one today. She is very hard on the gas but reliable as ever.

@surferj0e 10 месяцев назад

Topping off your tank with fuel will eventually kill your vehicle’s evaporation canister. For certain this happens in an 80 Series Land Cruiser.

@dillonh321 10 месяцев назад

They don’t keep cars and trucks for more than a year so they don’t care. But this is true.

@texasvet7241 10 месяцев назад

I’ve got a 2021 Tundra SR5 with just over 15k miles and I would LOVE to see 17.6 mpg. Love the truck anyway

@Notadrianmonroy 10 месяцев назад

love all your content guys. been following since the FRS/BRZ came out in 2012 under another youtube account I lost. Im glad my 3rd gen 4runner has the potential of 22mpg on highway.😂

@kencooper2059 10 месяцев назад

I had a 2008 Tundra with the 5.7. Best vehicle I ever owned, but yeah, it loved gas.

@rose415 10 месяцев назад

I drove my Kia sole from Vegas to Dallas, and I got 28mpg so relatively speaking these trucks weren’t too bad

@dbw0518 10 месяцев назад

I want that Land Cruiser!!

@yanglue611 10 месяцев назад

In Minnesota, 3rd Gen 4runner can get 26 mpg; the 80's series Landcruiser with 4.10 differential can get 17 mpg or with the 5.41 differential(I think its either 5.41 or 5.46 differential), you get 14 mpg; the Tundra can get 18 mpg. I've driven the 4Runner (used to own one until it got t-bone). My uncle's 405k miles Tundra before he switched to e-85. A friend of mine own 3 of these 80's series Landcruiser. One of them is one each different differential. The third one, he is doing the diesel model swap of Japan model

@rodgood 10 месяцев назад

Looking forward for the cheap Jeep ,cheap Toyota ,off road challenge .

@blapblapism 10 месяцев назад

Great Toyota series y’all.

@LionRunner 10 месяцев назад

For sure MPG have lot of variables. On my recent mpg video with my 5gen 4Runner Limited I got 21mpg on almost 50miles run here in CO. Pretty happy with the mpg having 33in tires and fulltime 4wd. I think its decent compared to newer Turbos Ford uses or Cylinder deactivation GM or even similar size Honda Pilot or same powertrain Passport uses which allow them to run on 3 cylinders.

@kylethestyle 10 месяцев назад

The best I ever got with my '70 C-10 was 17 MPG. It's got a 307 V8, quadrajet carb, 3.73 rear end, 3 speed manual. I was going 55 on the highway, though.

@Land_Raver 10 месяцев назад

I'm glad you can see why some of these old Toyotas are not good daily driver options. No power, terrible mpg.

@OSullivanLawFirm 10 месяцев назад

Great Series boys!

@freedomisntfree_44 10 месяцев назад

I’ve got 22-23 in a 5.7 sequioa all day long. And a 3.4 Tacoma I’ve gotten 20 before on 33s…. But normal driving in my area they both usually average 14-16 😅

@NWI_Steel 10 месяцев назад

No you haven't

@freedomisntfree_44 10 месяцев назад

@@NWI_Steel I have too 🤡 gotten over 400 miles to a tank with the sequoia.

@arlenenolte8475 10 месяцев назад

Love these series, I look forward to them :)

@b22chris 10 месяцев назад

Love this series! Do more off roading with them!

@jordanennis8592 10 месяцев назад

You guys should do a cheap nissan and cheap Honda offroad tests also love these series

@WW-wf8tu 10 месяцев назад

Honda does not have enough.. OR competition in this segment. Nissan would work, except, something tells me the fan base for old Nissan is low, so they would not draw in as much interest. (I would watch)

@jordanennis8592 10 месяцев назад

@WW-wf8tu to a point honda doesn't I see where your coming from I would like to see them do every company that can compete in this if they can..honda has the older passports Ridgeline the older crvs with a spacer kit and bigger tires are pretty capable too

@alanwarren6741 10 месяцев назад

Your guys are very enjoyable to watch Thank you

@yusikhan 10 месяцев назад

Love your videos. That 80s series is wicked cool and not that expensive compared to what I am seeing in my local market for these. There is one for sale for $30k in my market

@christopheranderson9414 Месяц назад

You guys need to do all wheel drive Toyotas

@gavriushka 10 месяцев назад

That has always been the motto of Lexus basically. You buy a nice luxurious beast truck, that will last forever so long you take care of it and you never ask what kind of mileage it does. You just fill it up, don’t look at numbers at the gas stations and you don’t question them. Also, my 08 Dodge Durango with the 4.7L flex engine, does 17 on the highway best case scenario, worst? Maybe about 14. Not towing, just going. So yeah. Toyotas aren’t too bad.

@derekquinn462 10 месяцев назад

True, you don’t buy these for the mileage 😅. My 06 LX 470 gets about 10 city/15 hwy. 33’s, 310k, still runs great

@phillipsmith5013 10 месяцев назад

This was fun. I enjoyed this episode.

@78suntan 10 месяцев назад

If you drive the 3rd gen 4runner very easy below 2,000-2500 rpm you can get 20mph highway 16 city. 32inch tires.

@KanchanaHiranJayasekara 10 месяцев назад

Love these series.. so much fun... Keep it up guys...👍

@weegeemike 10 месяцев назад

Great series as always! Keep up the great work TFL

@renflo86 10 месяцев назад

Please continue this series!

@ChrisHamil 10 месяцев назад

have an 94 Toyota Pickup with a 22re 2.4 4cyl 4x4 5 speed, it is also slow and gets bad gas mileage. It is great off road though. I would bet better than the Land Cruiser, but not as good as the others.

@abou824 10 месяцев назад

Love this series!!! Nathan's land cruiser is so sweet, even though he broke the rules🤨

@Vox-Populi 10 месяцев назад

I drove my two Sequoias (01 and 07) a total of 400,000 miles. Averaged 13 mpg...😢, but never had a single problem. Like a Swiss Army Knife.

@HaroldCombs 10 месяцев назад

I expected tundra at 14 and LC at 12 so good for you guys.

@SuperSnakePlissken 10 месяцев назад

$3.89 per gallon for unleaded in Colorado is crazy. I just paid $2.41 here in Texas. The joys of living in a blue state run by Commies.

@jml9550 10 месяцев назад

Dang, $4.75 here in the SF Bay Area and that’s 87.

@kb9oak749 10 месяцев назад

I wish we had Sinclair stations in Wisconsin.

@IdahoChevyDude 10 месяцев назад

I think you should find a t100, I have a 1998 with 201k and love it.

@mikaeltuber9225 10 месяцев назад

Love this episode..

@MrBob92 8 месяцев назад

We getting another challenge anytime soon? I’m enjoying these videos.

@kzakis3350 10 месяцев назад

I have a 1997 Pajero 3.5 v6 and a 2004 3.4 v6 Hilux, on the freeway I drive them approx 94km ,for 26yr and 19 yr vehicles they do well, they are built for purpose, not for speed, I get 10.7l/ 13.1 liters per 100km from them driving at that speed, almost like new.

@michaelmartin2276 10 месяцев назад

Don't like the Falken tires on my truck. Not too good off road with my 2011 Ram. Had BFG TO KO's previously. Find them a better off road and overall tire. Also have Cooper AT tires and I like them better also. Plus the Cooper AT is less expensive by quite a bit.

@nrmedic2396 10 месяцев назад

Loving this series. Love the looks of the new Falken's, but the weight vs competitors makes them a no go for me.

@justinborysenko3885 10 месяцев назад

It will still be here when you get up at noon

@nrmedic2396 10 месяцев назад

@@justinborysenko3885 think you clicked the wrong comment box lol.

@trailrunnah8886 10 месяцев назад

Same. It's that way with Falken tires in general, they're just so heavy for any given size. Also, they lost their value quality. They used to be literally half the price of a KO2, now they're the same if not more.