I think they did a fine job. There's a lot going on all at once. They got the job because they are experienced in the sport. Not because they are experienced commentators.
I just watched the world cups in Salt Lake City and had the direct comparison to Meagan Martin commentating. She did such a great job so I could barely listen to Hannah... She gives a few interesting background informations what it's like climbing in competitions but the commentating of the climbing itself is quite superficial. Also she doesn't seem to feel very comfortable, well maybe she didn't comment that often before, but like I said, I preferred Meagan's way of commentating.
@@Saiyaaaaa I think the consensus is pretty general that the commentating in Salt Lake city was unbearable. Both the male and female commentators were awful, but the woman was particularly bad. It's so nice to have the two in this video instead.
I love this format. It complements the individual focus in the finals. Seeing so many people attempting the same problems, all the boulders in play, it's great.
2:06:20 I really would like to see a replay of Kokoro Fuji's send. They didn't show how he did the crux. Looked like he managed to do what Tomoa tried...Oh, totally forgot that Nathaniel Coleman sent M4 early on.
It's great to be able to see the comps but the format was very difficult to watch since you cannot see each climber on each route in its entirety. I think picture in picture might have helped here, as in maybe 6 to 9 pictures within the total screen.
Ohhh I thought it was on the fall before I got to see this...looks like the heel hook did it. Could be LCL or Meniscus. I've hurt my knee that way and I could still climb after but couldn't do high feet or heel hooks for about 1-2 months so hopefully its similar for Miho and with more advanced PT she should be good for the Olympics
@@Eddysamson1 yeah me too. I just looked on her insta and she said when she felt it pop she dropped off the boulder which is good I hope she's okay for the Olympics! She is the only person I can really see challenging Janja for gold
I looked it up, i guess she had dusted chalk on her pants and had hand prints on her butt? Sounds stupid to me, but i didnt see it, so i guess it is what it is.
You see Futaba Ito reach the top of W3 while the commentators ignore it completely, and then she only scores a zone for it ? Did something happen that invalidated it ? Edit: Nevermind, it's apparently fixed later on.
The commentators ignore the climbing most of the time, talking about climbing gyms in Austria, the lead finals and things like that... And when they comment on the climbing going on it's like: "he tops that boulder" or "he just slipped"... Yes, I see that myself, thanks.
From her Instagram - "So, a small incident happened on boulder no.4 I heard a popping sound from my knee when I put high heel on the volume, then I immediately stop climbing. An injured part is the ligaments, I’m so glad that it’s not sever injury, but I was shocked and it’s such a disappointment ‘cause I had a good feeling until just before the last try…😢 It was a hard choice not to compete in the final round, but i think it was worth making a decision for the upcoming Olympic Games. "
Commentating a bit too much on the newbie side I feel (explaining the comp format, dual textures holds etc every single time), but apart from that great comp, good job from the routesetters and nice insight from hannah
There is no need to be replaying the send we literally just saw. The production is very irritating. There are 8 athletes climbing, stop replaying what we just saw in half speed. Also they really needed to stop switching immediately away from men/women's 4 even while commentary is talking about the 4th boulder and only showing M\W 1. I didn't come here to watch an hour of brushing holds. There are EIGHT athletes climbing. Come on....
Glad you all took the time to edit out the inappropriate shot of Farber. I have respect for making it right but I still question how it was allowed through in the first place.
Great co-commentary alright. Think Matt possibly needs to turn down the pep by about 20% though, compared to Charlie boscoe he sounds like he must have drank 5 caffeine drinks before the stream, same in the final. 😀
Unfortunately, I think the IFSC doesn't really have command over these factors at comps, the local organizers decide (not always, shall we say, for the best). For instance in recent Villars, Chamonix and Briançon cups, we had that unsufferable moron who apparently got the job for being the loudest, most stupid guy around... What is shocking for the Innsbruck competition is that this is the Austrian national TV. When some yokel who's a local legend for animating his cousin's weddings with crude jokes is a baseline retrograde, that's regrettable but not surprising (though why he keeps getting invited as an MC is surprising). When it's an actual official TV crew, that's just not OK.
Could one volunteer in an IFSC event provided an ability to cut 6 sec out of a 2h30 footage in the daytime ? At least, thx for having finally backed this up.
Cmon Matt Groom you don't need to explain every rule and the fundamentals of climbing every single competition. Newbies will pick it up just by watching and googling, everyone else watching most likely prefers commentary on the actual competition. Thanks
This guy (Matt Groom) is the worst commenter - ever. Please send him back to Clown College. Calls a female climber 'Kyle on Men's 3', calls Brooke - 'Natalia Coleman' - can't tell the difference between the Japanese climbers, how to pronounce the athletes' names, can't keep track of what is happening...it goes on and on. What a joke. But the climbing was great!
Respectfully disagree. I'm a complete beginner who's fallen in love with climbing over a month ago, and I come here to listen to Matt Groom. When he explains the basics, I feel less stupid. I also feel he makes genuine efforts to pronounce each name according to the language convention of each name, and his mistakes are just a result of him giving it his best try, not ignoring it. I genuinely think his mistake regarding Kylie Cullen was an unfortunate incident that he should get addressed for further improvement behind the scenes, but which does not diminish from his overall value or skill as a commentator. I do agree with you fully on the climbing! Semis are even more fun and educational to watch for getting better at climbing - than Finals - IMO!
@@crystalding5589 Looking back I see I was unfair. This was basically his first time flying solo. He has improved immeasurably and, compared to the (quite literally) incompetent commentators who did the Olympic broadcast is a gem. I'm very pleased you are enjoying it. I've been a fan for over 40 years, since Snowbird, and still watch every comp, every season. Great stuff. Thank you for calling my attention to this issues.
@@JMnyJohns Thank YOU for one of the nicest, genuine comments I could have hoped to receive. Because you mentioned it, I took a gander at the Olympic broadcast and YIKES - I so agree! It is TERRIBLE. And I say this while still respecting the commentators and the event runners - I am sure they had a target audience, a goal, and a strategy for commentating that did suit some, though not me. Since I'm writing a novel and getting deep into the art of words, I suddenly see just why I facepalmed after 5 minutes of clicking on a random segment, and couldn't watch it any further, perhaps you agree with these. 1. Too general, empty words, no zoom-in-and out, only commenting on the competitors themselves and what their stakes were, paltry on the actual physical and visual details of their movements. I mean - the way they described the climbing, you could might as well assume that all the holds looked and felt the same and that they were going up a single plane... 2. Too inaccurate. They say "look at that strength!" I could get rich if someone gave me a penny for every time they used the word "strength" in a sweeping way, ignorant of the techniques, textures, body positions, forces, and geometries that give climbing its true color. So their analysis is both incomplete, and simply not correct. And the only analysis point that came up under the presentation of the names of the athletes - the number of holds reached. I get the impression they wanted to be as "inclusive" as possible of all audiences, and introduce new fans to sport climbing. But there was simply a lack of love or respect for the sport from the commentating that understandably makes true lovers of climbing (now including myself) mad. I don't think apathy and ignorance helps increase a fan base. It treats new fans as dumb. Furthermore, let's assume that the Olympics wants to be extremely inclusive of people with those with lets say, visual disabilities. In that case - their commentary actually hinders that goal. Describing less information that is less relevant doesn't help anyone imagine what the athletes are going through. Thinking of how good soccer/football or cricket commentary is on the radio, I tried to imagine this commentary on the radio, without the footage, and laughed at just how little we would know what was going on. The commentary relies so much on "tell" not "show": they "tell you" how famous and experienced and STRONG (yes we know, we know) Akiyo Noguchi is, and that shes been competing from 16 to 32 and wow what imprssive feat that is, and that we SHOULD be rooting for her, but what in the world is she even doing? Why should we even care if we didn't know of her in the first place? This commentary seems to fulfill literally no goal that I can think of (can you think of any? please tell me!) It is therefore UNWATCHABLE for me. There - even I love a good rant!
Olympic's climbing is a complete farce i.m.o. Squandering the energy of genuinely talented climbers on something so pointless and boring as speed climbing.
male commenter borderline rude... whatever hannah says he just wont' even listen or react to it. then these fake questions he asks as a filler, again not at all reacting to whatever she replies. If I were her, I would have just quit...
you're being a little unfair here. He definitely reacted to a lot of the stuff she said. Not saying that you have to be a fan of his work as a commentator but he did incorporate her pretty well.
TBH I felt they had a geat vibe. In other sports I've watched, there's a "plot" commentator (not sure of the formal term) and a more specialised "analyst" commentator, think they are called "color commentators". The plot commentator has to keep the conversation on the frame being shown. As far as I know, they do not have control over the camera work. So with all this said, I don't agree that he is being rude.
