But, Joey agree's with 70% of IGNs List, not 80% He doesn't like One Piece (Anime), FMA:B and he prefers only one of Togashi's works in the Top 10. Choose either YYH or HxH . And there are a few anime that he agrees should rank higher for.
I think it'd be pretty cool if you do a Retro Anime series on this channel. Where you introduce and review an older series that no one really knows about.
FMA/B definitely has a nostalgic factor, but I wouldn't call it just another shounen similar to Naruto. It was an incredibly accessible series, had a really tight and well-told story with a great conclusion, an amazing dub, an awesome adaptation, and while I wouldn't put it at #1, I do think it sets itself apart from a lot of its peers both before and after it.
Yeah. People just shit on FMAB just beacuse it's popular. With all due respect to Joey but everything that's been going on in the FMAB that people say "Ahhh other anime did it better" , the thing is that it does all of those things with 10/10 standards that even if other animes did it better they did wrong something else which FMA didn't
I haven't seen FMAB and I'm also a Naruto simp, but I think FMAB is leagues ahead of Naruto. Espescially when it comes to pacing, based on what I've heard
i would and from what i can see online most people agree of how great it is more than, again every other anime I've seen, so from that alone it high and ye picking a #1 is just hard but if I had to... it be fmab b
@Dann Rajeeh Code Geass's ending was it's strongest aspect. The pacing was all over the place. Particularly towards the middle it really drags with entire episodes that barely moves the story along, if at all.
If we are talking about sheer legacy, not having Sailor Moon, or even Japan's most iconic ones like Doraemon or Sazae-san, which are family favorites, clearly shows that this list is based on the ones more popular with Western audiences. I think their last criteria of just how much they loved the series at IGN comes into play the most here. But then the series that they did pick have a lot of artistic merit, as Joey pointed out.
IGN is a western gaming website, putting something like Doraemon in their top10 makes no sense considering their audience. It is IGN's top10 not some definitive objective top10 of course it's gonna be shows loved by people from IGN.
To be honest, I'm surprised Sailor Moon isn't top ten as well. It was a staple of Cartoon Network in the late 90s and early 00s I think. I guess maybe it's closer to wherever they put Dragonball Z.
@@auberginebear Damn - that's painful. Shoulda gave one of her husband's two spots and threw our gals in the Top 10. But this was a very dudebro dominated list...aka no surprise from a Western Video Gaming site's Top 10.
This list was actually great. I got into FMAB expecting it to be overrated but without a doubt 100% top 5 for me. I don't think it's overrated at all I just think that instead more series that good could get that kind of recognition
@@abyssnofap4281 If some people act like it is overrated and others don't you won't know what to think until you watch it. Like look at One Piece. Tons of people say it's boring or too long but getting into it it's absolutely amazing. But also sometimes big mainstream things can be carried by animation or hype, like Demon Slayer. I still love the series but the animation makes up a lot for the simplistic story. That's why I wasn't 100 sure how FMAB would turn out.
@@desantinotafrancesco2639 I agree though it depends on what 5 shows you will put above FMAB. I would definitely get behind something like LoGH or NGE/EoE but if you say something like AoT, code geass or one piece you (not in specific "you", i mean it as in general "you") would lose your credibility in my eyes as a critic.
@@kubo-samabanbankai562 you doing drugs bruh? Most of the shows that you mentioned are far better than fmab, not even debatable. It is just a good show not the greatest show. If you're that good of a critic then point out a single aspect in which fmab is better than each show that you mentioned in first place our else you're definitely losing your credibility as a critic here.
The dichotomy between Joey's and Garnt's reaction to this same list really illustrates the duality of Man. P.S- Attack of Titan and Devilman Crybaby was on the honorable mentions list which was the remaining 15 left behind from the list, Joey.
While I wouldn’t consider FMA:B to be the top 1, I certainly wouldn’t consider it to be just another Shounen. I’ve never looked at it the same way I look at series like Naruto
Yeah, I wouldn't put FMA at the top either (not even top 10 for me), however, it is very different from most shonen in that it explores subjects that are quite unusual for manga aimed at teens (the entire war flashback). It's definitely more mature in a lot of ways than a lot of seinen. It even breaks a lot of shonen tropes: as an example, Edward does become stronger (better prosthetic, training) but there really isn't any "power level" in FMA.
@@Knoloaify if anything, at the end Edward let's go of his power of alchemy, as a sign of personal growth, very much within the established power system and as a thematic abolition of the rule of equivalent exchange, that for the whole series has had a hold over protagonists and antagonists of the series and held them back from trying to be better, which is contrasted by earlier scene of Father being consumed by his Gate. Like come on, typical shonen my ass.
the idea that how 'good' a series is should be based off by it's impact on the industry/size doesn't really make sense imo. in that case more recent shows would be automatically worse than their predecessors, which isn't the case. the best is just about enjoyment/quality and shouldn't really be measured by how big of an impact the show had.
Thankyou, I thought the same thing. He just kept commenting on the impact on shows like Mob Psycho and One Piece so if that's the case I guess DBZ is Joeys no. 1 anime since its had the most impact. It just makes no sense.
@@leleo2219 lol right? "Mob is new so it can't be top ten". This just turned into a top ten most influential (shounen) anime list. Not that these are bad shows!
Yeah, I felt the exact way. A top anime doesn't have to do anything that changes the entire medium, but instead pushes animation/story/direction to its current top; all in all something that provides the most enjoyment. These takes from Joey that animes need to be "profound" to be at the top is why he has the reputation of being somewhat of a contrarian or eccentric.
To say FMAB is just another Shounen series is a crime. To me it feels like one of, if not the, best gateway anime. Like if you show someone FMAB who has never seen anime or never been "an anime fan" they're very likely to be hooked on the series. The storytelling is crisp, the action is hot, and it takes you on an emotional rollercoaster. And it's VERY accessible at only 64 episode. It doesn't feel like a huge undertaking to watch.
Exactly, it is genuinely an amazing show, something I don’t hear enough ppl talking about though is how amazing the OST is. The openings get a lot of praise but the soundtrack is on another level
I'm glad that Joey commented on the lack of shojo series! I would also have added Sailor Moon, Utena and Rose of Versailles to the list. Great minds think alike XD
They're all good picks, some are just overrated. IGN is ran by geeks and gamers too anyways so it makes sense that this list worked seemed pretty decent.
I can't forgive them for putting 2 of the actual worst anime ever made in the list though....I mean FLCL & Evangelion, bruh even Dragonball Z and Boruto had better story writing than both those trash anime. And you know how bad boruto is and how bad the story in dragonball z in yet somehow by a miracle evangelion managed to do it worse than both those and same with FLCL
@@fish-zb4tg you know the word all time meaning ? You said RN but the wording you said is wrong the wording should be "It is the most popular anime right now" which is debatable because almost everyone watching this anime for the spectacle of the animation not because it is anything else, and almost no one talks about it after the anime aired no analysis videos no character explorations because the characters are 1D style writing same for the story , and almost everyone knows that if Demon slayer was in the hand of any other Studio and made let's say Decent animation not the god Tier we got , no one will talk about it, because how mute every other thing is. Saying that an Anime is greatest of all time because of animation is really disrespectful for other animes and writers that pull their heart out to make good stories with good characters and don't even get adapted because luck wasn't on their side or get a shitty studio like what happened with Berserk.
@@jefftakesdscakes30 yea because of hype once the hype went off people saw it for what it is a normal Shonen show just like any other. Funny you should say that because Recently Avatar 2 just came out and in the past Avatar 1 was the most growing movie and it won awards and now ask anyone about it they gonna say it was Visually good but everything else was shit but yea...
Overall this is a much better list then expected. I fully believed it was gonna have every popular shonen and nothing else. However I think its actually impossible to make a top 10 list without being subjective and biased. Honestly they needed to put FMA Brotherhood in 1 or 2 or they'd actually get cancelled. But I was also hoping for Akira as well. Also low key I didn't enjoy Bebop as much? 10000% it had such a massive influence but I think the pacing of the story doesn't hold up as well to today's standards.
I mean, in all fairness, outlets only count anime *shows* when making Top Anime lists, since the shows are easier to consider "revolutionary" than the movies.
@@takanara7 I wouldn’t say it’s really mid because the pacing and the characters are really well done. But I don’t think that the story and the animation are all that remarkable. I still think it deserves top 10 but definitely not #1.
I wouldn't have put FMA:Brotherhood at 1, but it's significant because it came out as a 64-episode run without becoming a meltdown, was the second attempt (how many stories had enough success to allow for a second try?) that did better. Placing FMA at the top 10 is also nostalgia for a time when we have long-form anime series that start and stop (and conclude) at one go, whereas most modern attempts are broken up into so many seasons that the pacing suffered.
FMAB was amazing, it's hard to make a list like that it always feels like something is missing. Doesn't matter who you place at NR1, someone will always disagree. All great animes there.
I feel like the only reason so many people are harsh on FMA is because it's ranked #1 on multiple sites. If it weren't (like Hunter x Hunter) people would treat it way more fairly and appreciate it for what it does well, e.g. world building, characters, narrative. It's the complete package, and not many shounen accomplish as much as FMAB does in 64 episodes.
@@thomasffrench3639 Highly disagree. Hunter Hunter didn't really have an impact IMO, it perfected a genera that was already there.. ok. But in the grand scheme of things, that is it. While FMA brought in a whole generation of non-anime fans in to the community. But this might be a bias opinion, as I still don't get the massive hype behind Hunter Hunter
@@jonatanlukac5894 I prefer the manga over the anime for that show, but I would say that in the 90s it was more complex than a lot of shonen. I haven’t read or watched Yu Yu Hakusho, so I might be wrong on that front. It was a part of the big three wave where shonen focused more on expanding its world than a story centered on one dude. It also made shonen a lot darker. Yeah you had Fist of the North Star, but that was ended a decade before Hunter x Hunter started publishing. Maybe not the most influential, but it was influential
I do like FMAB but I really wish the fans aren’t so toxic to the point they had to lower an anime score in myanimelist just so it could stay at the top. Those type of fans definitely need to touch grass
When judging medias, you can't make an actual Top that's not subjective. It innately is based on the person who does the top. The only Tops you can do objectively are ones based on raw data, like the money something made, the runtime, etc...
You can still do popularity contests between educated critics The decennial Sight & Sound poll works that way, kinda Everyone voting is still not measuring things the same way You got different criteria like "my faves" and "most influential" And then there's pity votes for minorities, which is insulting At least it doesn't limit your choices... You can blame both "nostalgia" and "recency bias" equally
@@nelisezpasce Then i's not so much a top as it is a poll result, though. And it's still heavily subjective, since it's the result of various people's personal opinion and taste.
yup. or maybe if u equalize the people making the list, like having fans of varying demographics & genres. not just being dominated by shonen & action fans
FMAB got my other half into anime and kept me interested in anime after 15 years. We both still agree it’s one of the most succinct and accessible series regardless of the type of shows you like, so completely agree with the placement. I have friends who are shoujo fans who wouldn’t watch Beserk or AoT, but FMA they have. It also doesn’t phone it in writing female characters like 95% of shounen.
Same! Actually, my SO hated anime when we first got together. He still doesn't like Cowboy Bebop. But I showed him FMA and FMAB. After that, he has now watched countless animes with me and has even picked some out himself. So yes, in my opinion, FMAB fully deserves that spot on the list.
Agreed! The fact that it is often held up as an accessible "gateway" anime for so many people, how is that not influential? Maybe not to the industry like Joey seems to want, but if so many people say "this is the one that got me into anime" well, they wouldn't be here watching videos about anime on youtube without it, would they?
Think FMAB is a very special case of all the stars aligning. It came out at a time when anime was a bit more niche but beginning to becoming slightly more accepted and accessible. Add to that, it was a lot of people's first or close to first anime and is also really god damn good means it ends up at the top of a lot of peoples lists.
I said this before on Garnt's video on their top 25, but it's baffling to me that they had Eva but not Madoka Magica. Their top 25 included Naruto Shippuden, for god's sake. But not Madoka Magica. What.
I always love when people even bother to mention Legend of the Galactic Heroes. It's huge, sprawling, and kind of intimidating, but it's also dense and well written and very rewatchable.
I really hope you're joking, i've watched about 50 episodes this has been absolute torture for what is quite possibly one of the worst anime I have seen in my entire life and I mean you can't really name any anime I haven't seen because i've seen just about everything. LOTGH just really really sucks, because the politics and the pacing and there really isn't any good characters in the series that make you even want to watch it. You know even when the MC is so mid and boring that all the other characters are going to be really bad too...it's neither rewatchable or well written. And this last take may be a bit biased but I hate politics and space anime it combined the 2 things I hate the most
@@GrowingDownUnder I think you probably didn't like Game of thrones S1-S5 or Breaking bad, Dune books and the Movie too it is more Drama politics , it is not an anime that you go and see great animation with great action it is slow every action takes a lot to happen. And probably you won't like Monster or Spice and wolf or any of non action things. And if you hate politics and space that much why you bothered with it and go instead of saying it is not my type because I hate both of these things, go on and say IT IS THE WORSE ANIME it comes more of a guy seeking attention. What are you saying is basically twitter guys who go and say I HATE WHEN THIS GUY TWEETS and get mad about it and then go and follow him and read all his tweets.
@@benjaminramsey498 Lol you should do yourself a favor and watch it. It is one of the best novel adaptations I've had the pleasure to see (including the likes of GoT and even LOTR). Absolutely great series with such an unbiased approach to politics, highlithing both the pros and cons of different government systems.
Fun fact: Neon Genesis Evangelion is one of the inspirations for a Square Enix game from the 90’s called Xenogears which widely regarded as one of the best RPGs of all time and there are definitely some parallels between Xenogears and Neon Genesis besides the giant mechs such as the deep story that accompanies Xenogears.
Xenogears being similar to eva most likely comes from the the fact that they were both influenced by similar media and ideas popular in 80s-90s japan at the time rather than contributing all of those similarities to it being directly inspired by eva (though there probably are some direct influences from eva, my point isn't that it doesn't have any, i am just saying not ALL of it is eva). For example, things like: Space battleship yamato, mobile suit gundam (especially g gundam in xenogears) SDF macross, space runaway ideon, ultraman, nausicaä of the valley of the wind (even more apparent in the manga version), 2001: a space odyssey, childhood's end (book). And as i said in that time period in japan esotericism, mysticism, magick, psychoanalysis etc. were really popular. So both of them directly took inspiration from kabbalah/jewish mysticism, gnosticism, ideas of freud (and neo freudian thinkers like lacan) and jung et al. Also Xenogears >>> Evangelion >>> Eureka seven >>> Gasaraki >>> Rahxephon >>> Fafner >>> Darling in the franxx If we are comparing eva to other mecha series that people call as being eva copies.
I am glad monster got recognized! When I joined an anime club in college, this was the first anime I saw there (came into during the middle) and omfg what a mind f-k. I have a new appreciation for it over time and I want to rewatch it again. Because I love Satoshi Kon, this was also in my wheelhouse to enjoy.
I also clapped when I saw monster on the list, such a masterpiece, a girl I was dating was the one who introduced me to this and to be honest that was the best part of dating her, hands down.
Why listen to man that doesn't watch anime go on and talk about anime? I like Joey and the rest of the Trash Taste boys a lot but whenever they start talking about anime they're not even watching... I start malding.
it is though. I love fmab but I even think even the likes of naruto has themes and character moments on the same level not to mention the character development. Fmab ending was perfect though and for only 60 episodes it is kinda amazing. Not far above every shounen though in my opinion
@@NemzYT name me a popular shounen with no fillers, with good start to end with good pacing. FMAB is hands-down the most completed shounen so far, the rest are either not finished yet or filled with a lot of flaws
I'm sorry but you get a small L on that last take. I wouldn't probably have made FmaB number 1 but it's one that fully deserves being in top 10. That anime and manga are near perfection. Great animation, great fight scenes, iconic characters all written in depth, iconic lines and scenes, complex story with multiple moving parts, deep and dark themes uncommon to the stereotypical shonen etc. I'd say that in the west, for a different generation, FmaB was as great as a gateway anime as cowboy bebop
My Top 10 anime's of all time that i have seen would be: 1. Yu Yu Hakusho 2. Samurai x 3. Cyborg 009 4. Dororo 5. Bleach 6. Kuroko no basket 7. Haikyu 8. Dragon ball 9. Your lie in April 10. Violet Evergarden
They missed Code Geass for the greatest ending in fiction and Madoka Magica for the impact it had on the magical girl genre (my favorite is Assassination Classroom but these two had to be mentioned before it because of the amazing story they told and the impact they had).
Madoka Magica is wildly overrated in terms of "impact." What it did was introduce a bunch of people to magical girl shows who had very opinionated views of what they were, but very little experience in the actual genre. Had they watched predecessors like Princess Tutu or Kaitou Jeanne, they'd realize that Madoka Magica is really just a popular but otherwise straight take on the more dour side of magical girl shows. Excellent execution, but people mistaken it for being NGE when it was really closer to Eureka Seven. If we are talking magical girl genre, candidates like Sailor Moon or Cutie Honey probably deserve it more. Hell, I'd even go to Cardcaptor Sakura before giving the prize to Madoka Magica. This same effect of "newbies with strong opinions and little experience" happened to isekai shows as well, which used to feature some pretty heartwrenching premises, a lot of female MCs, and rather complex, built up worlds. Then SAO (and just narou-kei) came along and rewrote what isekai meant, and now everyone is drowning in mediocrity crying about how isekai as a genre sucks, when the real solution is to just watch older shows for "darker themes." Re:Zero is fine for what it is, but it isn't really a revolutionary step for having suffering, nor is Mushoku Tensei really special for emotional distress. Both of these actually represent what the genre moved away from, as shows like Now and Then, Here and There or Twelve Kingdoms very much play up how the new world is not convenient and how easy it is to blame the world for your own problems. These genres aren't what the newcomers think they are. Magical girl shows have been doing hard emotional turmoil since the 90s. Isekai shows did character growth and dark premises since the 80s. Go back and watch the classics. Please.
It's funny seeing Joey react to HxH being on the list despite never reading/watching it. What he said was valid, though you can feel the osmosis kicking in for that one
Monster can never truly be praised enough definitely worthy of standing to represent what anime is, when you think of a anime as the goat think of monster and ask yourself again. Not one epic fight scene or peak animation but still incredible.
Monster is my number 1. It’s to me is the best plot in fiction with the best antagonist ever imo. Monster changed my life that I’m currently writing a book similar to it.
The problem with top 10 lists nowadays anyway is that there are so many anime out that the 10 you put on the list have to all be flawless, perfect series that literally everyone can sit down and watch.
I can understand FMAB being #1. It is an amazing adaptation of amazing source material. It has a great story, great characters and writing, amazing ost, and has great animation. As well as it is pretty long so you have a lot to chew on.
The anime i believe should be in the top three is Hokuto no Ken, shit made the action genre, it was the tree that branched out and made major series, stories such as Berserk or JoJo. It’s probably one of the anime that has made the largest impact on the current state of anime and manga
I would say that Gundam and DBZ have a far bigger impact on anime as a whole. Like Berserk and JoJo are popular, but not really heavy hitters in popularity. JoJo maybe, but I don’t think so
It isn’t on the list because the adaptation is weak (censored), could’ve been if they readapt it to another studio like David Production same studio that animated JoJo’s. Nonetheless the Manga is better 💯🐐
Problem I have with the nostalgia arguments in the anime community. It just comes off as you’re upset that someone doesn’t like another series that means the world to you. And people really do believe if something hits the 20 year mark it has no value today whatsoever.
the impact of a show doesn't make it the "best". the "best" is the quality of how enjoyable it is, just like the "best" sports player is determined by how skilled they are. In anime, the enjoyability of an anime is based on how skilled the staff are in executing the anime. if you wanted it to be based on impact it would be called "the most influential anime of the decade"
yeah, this angle confused me as well sure, legacy can be one of many criteria, but if "cultural impact" was the most important quality (as Joey makes it out to be imo) half of the list would consist of Dragon Ball + the big three
@@Raptain no it wouldn’t. There would be so much more variety. Dragon Ball, sure, but the big three are more influential to the manga world than the anime one.
The list is totally fine I was expecting Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer, One Piece, Naruto, FMA BH, maybe HxH. Just the biggest shōnen shows that to satisfy the biggest audience, but Monster and Yū Yū Hakusho and FLCL are some special shows. Fine list, if anyone would say to me these are his favorite shows, I would expect he or she has watched more than 10 shows.
The only thing that can make Yu Yu Hakusho not be the type of shonen you've just described is the fact that it's older than them. Also, out of all those shonen FMA in terms of it's story and structure stands out the most (no arcs, short fights)
Some people really likes to look cool or diffrent that they tend to be hypocritical when it comes to lesser known animes. Praising YuYu Hakusho while thinking One Piece HxH and FMA are generic is just so funny haha.
I think fullmetal alchemist probably appeals to what Americans really love. It also doesn’t have anime tropes that put Americans off. I really love the show, I just think it’s just a safe answer for IGN to give.
No offense, but i don't know what you're on about. Fullmetal alchemist is full of anime tropes. The humor is very anime like with the chibi and goofy faces, the older woman hardcore OP mentor trope, the older sister scary and dangerous trope. It has many more I'm definitely forgetting. You should instead talk about the themes which work well with the American viewers than Japanese who like more shonen type themes. Fullmetal alchemist has many good themes with varying degrees of success. Morality with Ed, Al and the Philosophers Stone, Vengeance with Scar, Greed with Ling etc.
Joey, I appreciate you taking the time to do the list. I think what makes FMA:Brotherhood different is the much darker nature of the series and the Ray of hope it provides for the entire cast of characters and the audience. But the biggest problem is that as you mentioned earlier, anime has a 70+ year history and it is wildly difficult to riddle that down to 25. Kudos to you brother.
Ngl, I’m not mad about this top ten ten being topped off by Brotherhood. I think it’s how well balanced the series is, just how intentional every moment we’re shown is from start to finish. Even with how much I adore Yu Yu Hakusho, there were definitely things it could have done. I don’t think FMA Brotherhood was a lot of people’s first anime, but it was definitely the first shounen series I saw that wasn’t all about martial arts & fisticuffs. This top ten definitely got me more interested in seeing what the top 25 list looks like, given they didn’t include a shoujo series in the top ten contenders.
I think, as a corporate top 10, they actually did try to make one that people could agree and not be angry with, while making it obvious they weren't trying to be pandering to the lowest common denominator (most of the time). Even if they favored shounen for the most part, IGN did a competent job at making such an impossible list.
To say YuYu Hakusho or HunterxHunter have had a bigger impact to the GENERAL anime community over FMA is insane. There are people who don't watch any anime whatsoever, that have still seen and enjoyed FMA. There's a reason it's the gateway anime most people choose to show their friends and that's because it is one of the most complete packages ever. Characters are well defined and likable, story is succinct and to the point, with clear goals, crescendos and moments of calm and the animation is superb. Trying to downplay its significance comes off as very contrarion. It's almost universally at the top of most top 10's for a reason. It's not my absolute favorite anime, but it's definitely way up there. It's also obvious why it would be most people's favorite.
Bruh, you seriously wanna argue with that.? lol both YYH and HXH have wayyy bigger impact on it's genre. you don't know history of you said so. please put favoritism apart
Imo opinion fmab is the baseline for a 10/10 anime. It meets the minimum requirements for a 10/10 show Edit: I also believe madoka magica deserves to be on this list
I’m a huge FMAB lover but the reason it’s loved so much, in my opinion, is just because it does what it does well and is a very complete show in my opinion, regardless of how impactful it is in culture. Lots of these shows were great picks but at the end of her day I was not holding my breath and expected IGN to just slap a show that was loved by so many people in first place.
I can basically explain why FMAB is considered the best anime ever made, because for anime to be good it must meet these criteria: Story Characters / character development Animation World building Voice acting Creativity / originality Balance Ending Pacing Consistency Foreshadowing No exposition dumps No fillers/flashbacks/recaps No plot holes Censored or uncensored Fanservice or no fanservice How well does it follow the source material like manga? Is there bad arcs? Does it have flaws? Is the anime repetitive? How well does it age? Things like Art style, Enjoyment, Genres, Music, Themes these are subjective things so you can still judge based on them but should not be the main focus of judging an anime. Now I can truely say that FMAB is the only anime in history that basically meets every single one of these criteria...It's even rare to find anime with good story, characters and animation all 3 in 1. There really isn't all that many anime that do all 3 of those well. Let alone all of the criteria I mentioned. FMAB deserves it's title as the best because from a non biased perspective, it is the only anime that has every single element needed to make anime great
@@GrowingDownUnder I call this the straight A's vs the Single S dilemma. While I consider FMAB to have A in all of the categories mentioned above I know there are series that have "S" scoring in more than one of those, while have Bs or Cs in others. I think AOT had a better excecution as an adaptation than FMAB, and I had to rewatch parts of FMAB to confirm this. The series hasn't aged as well in certain animation and excecution aspects, but it is still an A. Sidenote, did you know Arakawa herself is a big fan of Legend of the galactic heroes? it makes sense considering both have such a big cast of well developed characters. That is a series that has several Ss that makes it worth it, while having other Ds and even Fs like animation sadly
@@sefatsilverlake3816 While I like AOT way more than FMAB...AOT was not consistent, the characters in AOT are kinda all bad and unlikeable. Levi is only cool because he's edgy and strong, but he's a pretty badly written character if i'm being honest. He got a little bit of backstory but barely enough to call him well written. Eren is well written, but as a character he's trash and unlikeable, also crybaby most the series. AOT had bad arcs too like part 3 and final season part 1. Too much politics and it got pretty bad actually, i'd say big inconsistency there especially changing studios having inconsistency with animation too LOTGH is an F tier anime, because it's fail it's trash. No good characters, boring story, boring politics, repetitive, outdated anime that aged extremely badly, etc...
Wish some shojos would be on these lists, it’s always shonen or heavy action animes. What about Card Captor Sakura or Sailor Moon? Those shows have done so much for the anime community as well…
unfortunately no one cares about the female demographic. well, the mainstream anime community at least. even if they do care its usually only about Nana which is "not like other shojo" 🤪
@@mono8476 people watch shows with female demographics, but not in the west. The west has tried to standardize media so that everyone can watch it, but most of the media that’s foundational to for mainstream media in the west has been towards a male demographic. So the more girly shows have been ignored by the wider western anime community because both men and women aren’t used to that stuff. That’s my theory anyway
Man, the Trash Taste crew really hates FMAB. I love FMAB and it's my number 1 just because it does so many things right. The animations was good, the politics was good, the hard magic system was inventive, it balanced the grimness with humor. The characters were likeable. I mean it was just so very, very tight. It's the epitome of synergy, it is greater than the sum of its parts.
Tbf the MAL stigma also kind of ruined it, as much as it deserved the spot the last decade and I think it's one of the best, I don't think it should be sitting on top now
I absolutely love everything that our boy Joey says, the commentary is perfect. But I still love fmab and yes it was my first darker anime experience, but I still revisit the series damn near every year. I understand the points made but this series is nearly 2 decades old and still has staying power and still impacts me and everyone who’s seen it DEEPLY too this day.
I have FMA:B as my number 1. Why? The series is a perfect execution [to my tastes] from start to finish. The pacing, character writing, mystery, timeframe, action, etc. is just great. Does a show like Demon Slayer or Attack on Titan have better animation, fights, etc.? Yes. Yes it does. But for me, both stories don't stick the landing as much + have worse pacing. And that's the key factor for me here on why FMA:B is my top spot. The pacing is so much better than most shonen stories out that. It isn't nostalgia btw. FMA:B wasn't my first anime, or my first shonen and I have watched the series regularly too.
Joey is kind of talking out of his ass with the impact. Evangelion has had movies released up until last year. HXH has had new anime adaptation in 2011-2014. One Piece is still coming out. So is Hajime no Ippo. Meanwhile FMA has been finished, definitely finished, for over 12 years now.
The fact that Revolutionary Girl Utena, a masterclass in using allegories for storytelling, is an honorable mention says everything I need to know about this list.
so glad that monster is finally coming to netflix so that more people can experience its greatness. i had to watch the whole show on low res reuploads on youtube and it still became my favorite anime, imagine it with decent picture and audio quality…
There is no such thing as a true top ten anime of all time, because everyone's opinion will be different. My favorite anime will be different from almost everyone else's favorites. It doesn't necessarily mean I have bad taste, just that I have a different opinion. Almost none of the anime I would put into a top ten are in this list.
I quite agree with you in that FMA: Brotherhood doesn't deserve the spot if you put emphasis on the cultural influence, genre defining qualities or staying power of the show. For me it's still firmly in top 5 shows of all time western, anime or anything, but even I wouldn't say that it's the most influential show ever. Heck, Chainsaw Man has had more hype and made bigger splash in it's short time than FMA ever did during it's lifetime. It all depends on the criteria of your top list in the end.
Okay Joey, Naruto over FMA? There's a reason it's loved so much, not just because it's 'the first shounen' for many people. It's not just 'another' shounen. It doesn't have to be 'the first' in something to be considered worth, it's taking the premises, creating a world, telling a story and executing things. And with execution, I wouldn't put AOT above FMA (and I fucking love AOT too). Maybe it's not THE best for many, but 100% worth the list
Joey kinda underrates fmab as usual, I can't really see anyone naming 10 or more better shounen animes for fmab to be called just another shounen. I get it when you don't particularly like a show that may be objectively good, fmab isn't one of my favorites either. But it's definitely not just another shounen I can see that much. There aren't many shounen shows that meet it's standard unfortunately.
@@reilzy See you literally reply with 2 animes that either only had the first season or didn't even finish. jjk is great but the first season is basically a prologue. chainsaw man ongoing, wasn't even out at the time of the list. Death Note I love but man the last act is painful at best. It's not easy to come up with 10 that have a good case for them like I said, fmab hardly a regular shounen. A "regular" shounen is something like black clover or noragami. A good case could be made for attack on titan, hunter hunter, hajime no ippo, one piece, yu yu hakusho, great teacher onizuka and dbz if cultural impact is important on the list. That's 7 so hardly "regular shounen" status for fmab is appropriate... It's a top shounen no need to underrate it.
@@reilzy HxH is agreeable AOT hell no (after that ending? LMAO) CSM hell no (doesn't do anything better than FMABH) JJK hell no (Better than CSM,but doesn't do anything better than CSM) Jojo is debatable (Massive,very well thought out,very influential,great protagonists,great antagonists,Unique,bizarre)
not sure if youre aware of it but i think you're a big part of the reason why flcl isn't some obscure niche anymore! by repping flcl the way you have throughout the years you have presented the anime to a wider audience and tysm for that
If this video gets 1 mil, Joey has to make his own top 25 list of best anime of all time. And if that video gets 2 million, then he can do one on manga. AND IF THAT GETS 3 million, then he can do one on MANGAKA. AND AND IF THAT GETS 4 million, then he has to do one for anime studios. AND IF THAT GETS 5 MILLION VIEWS, HE CAN DO A TIERLIST ON ALL GENRES OF MANGA…
No Sailor Moon or Futari wa Pretty Cure? One defined the magical girl genre and was a commercial monster with influence seen all over the world, and the other saved the genre and continues to be a staple for 20 years.
Brotherhood has been my top 1 favourite anime since it came off and still has not changed to this day. Sure I have quite a bit of personal preference to it, but I really did not enjoy darker shows back then, I watched anime since I was a child and with this series was different in many aspects. I had 15-16 I was a fantasy fan and a trash shonen lover and fullmetal alchemist hit me like a truck beginning with the chimaera episode. On the middle of the series got a bit stucked a couple of times since the plot building was too much for my brain to process at some times. The artstyle was great, the OST was incredible, and the last 20-25 episodes of the 64~ episodes, the plot was magnificently orchestrated to reach tie every loose end. I watched it a couple of times over the years, and I honestly believe it's deserving it's spot. It's in the way it managed the plot till it's end, and it's how well it fitted historical, ethical and moral issues at my adolescent age while it was steel a fresh young shonen, a very wonderful one that bringed the kid I was to think about how our naivety can let us to make serious mistakes we cannot just unmake. It is a very personal 1st spot to me, and I understand it might not be shared by a lot of people, but I definetly think it was a game changer on the way a lot of us look into anime.
33:56 THANK YOU! I know the animation is dated and this is giving away my age a bit but how can you make any kind of top 10 anime list without mentioning Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Surprised how good this was, by personal preference I would swap the order but definitely all deserving titles, so excited for monster to come to Netflix Australia soon
Joey is the type of guy that would argue Vampire Survivors is a better game than Elden Ring, because it had a bigger impact on the type of games developers have focused on.
They said it themselves that industry impact is one of the criteria at the beginning, knowing full well their top-1 is something that's just good, no less but also no more.
Joey, you're gonna have to forgive the boys at IGN for pronouncing it the way he did. this is how we were hearing kuwabara say his name the entire time in the dub.
