IGNORANCE Of European Leaders Is Getting WORSE. How To Explain This? | Dr. Ezequiel Luis Bistoletti 

Stupidisation is a good word!

I'm Russian, I live in Moscow. I am curious to see how Europe, which has kept the whole world in fear for more than 500 years, possessing communal colonies, first lost all its colonies, and now has become a colony of the USA. This is the result of pseudo-democracy, elections are won not by the most worthy candidate, but by the richest. Only money wins elections. That's the result you got.

Am from Uganda, we also ask the same question. How did Europe become so stupid. Germany in particular stands out since most people here heard about what happened to nordstream and how Germany took it bending. Unbelievable! And yes, russia is really popular this side

The Great American Dream turned into a malevolent global nightmare.

Sweden has signed the DCA agreement, which means that the US has gained access to all of Sweden's bases And can build 17 own military bases. I can't put into words how pissed off I am 🤬🤬🤬

The fact that Russia was not invited to the 80th anniversary celebration despite the Ukraine conflict is a testament to our awareness of history and the greatness of being able to separate things from one another. Another chapter of Western arrogance. Extremely shameful when you think of the approximately 27 million dead Russians who deserved to be remembered.

Stupidization of Europe 😅 Yep and the UK is definitely in there.

Stupidity is an essential qualification to be a EU politician and law maker. 😂

I am part of people on the street in germany. What you think about people like me is completely false. I have no prejudices against russia and I am well informed about all what happened in ukraine. We had a time in germany, when the government said, we want a good neighborhood to russia. Many people still want this, but the government has changed and now they obey the US-doctrin of hostile competition to russia.

EU leaders left their balls in DC.

I wish I could shed a tear for Europe, the UK and the US, we have all earned our fate, Recession to Depression, we will all suffer due to our leaders policies, and our laziness in holding them to account

Gentlemen, thank you... I am not a scholar. I am from the States and one of the first of the BabyBoomer Generation. Because of the sorry state of education and corporate media saturation, Americans really do think this is all just a movie... Out of curiosity about the world, I visited Berlin in 1972. I visited again in Dec89 to see the Wall come down. We smoked and drank and talked about a bright future... It seemed like the only people worried were the “Joint Chiefs at the Pentagon.” The US did not read the writing on the ruins of the Berlin Wall. They chose unilateralism instead of building a new world. Because people ignore our own history, they do not see the dreadful irony of current events. Early on in this conflict, I commented that we were digging up the ghosts of WW2. This was the lands of the Death Camps for anyone who would not conform. An independent Ukraine presented a strategic opportunity for US/NATO as suggested in Zbigniew Brzeziński's 1997 book, "The Grand Chessboard" where he suggests using Ukraine as a battering ram against Russia. How is this different than Hitler infamously saying, "We only have to kick in the door...", about the invasion of the Soviet Union. Was he (and the Nazis) alone in viewing the USSR as unstable and "rotten"? I would think that Germany would owe Russia a debt of gratitude for not blocking re-unification and yet it is German tanks rolling East through the Ukraine. What's more disturbing is when I try to look at both sides of the situation, I am shouted down with angry hostility... So much for democracy. Gentlemen, because of the pervasive nature of corporate propaganda and the passive complacency of people, we desperately need you!

Guys, nobody gets that stupid so quickly, from a society that should be well educated, unless they chose to be. Usually due to a sufficiently strong motivation to choose to be stupid.

Talk to the older east germans they are angry that Germany is not neutral with the war in Ukraine and extreemly extreemly angry at the arms delivery

Wish I could share your optimism about ordinary voters. In recent EU elections here in Ireland we voted for equivalent of three Of Neros' horses. Individuals with zero political experience but had some name recognition. Absolutely embarrassing to hear them interviewed after elections. As I call them, INCITATUS 1,2 AND 3. They will all do as they are told and not a functional brain cell between them but we voted out Clare Daly and Mick Wallace two of the most intelligent MEPS in EU. Shameful.

The only thing I can think of that explains european politicians behaviour is self-preservation and american blackmail.

Germany is a country with neither autonomy nor autarchy. That's quite baffling for a supposed largest economy in Europe!

The US policy for Europe has always been the same : The US IN - Germany DOWN - Russia OUT.

Shame on European Leaders in Africa!

Ignorance is strength. War is peace.

To be precise, its “selective ignorance” they hear and react only to the information they seek

Over 40,000 US troops in Germany - what do you expect?

is eu being willingly led to their destruction by the us?

I am over sixty years old and Olof Palme has shaped me and my view of human rights and peace.

I'm an old American guy living in Russia (since the end of USSR) agreeing with you smart young guys from Argentina and Switzerland living in Germany and Japan. I'd like to be as hopeful as Pascal (and people like Jeffrey Sachs who is only 10 years younger than I am), but when I talk with my friends and relatives in USA I'm concerned that the Argentine's pessimism is justified -- but let's get together and direct things in the direction of peace.

No, it wasn't thus bad before , we always at least were fearful of the USSR response. Now they see Russia as if it is an irelivent matter. So so dangerous. 😔 😡

One of the biggest problem with usa and uk especially is that lobbyist roaming the corridor of power. Always there.always unelected. Take the british parliament and the speaker of the house. He decides what questions will be addressed in parliament. If he decides that george Galloway for instance is too smart with salient points he will simply not allow him to stay on his feet and ask awkward questions. What happens behind the scenes the speaker fraternises with both parties. AND. Most likely with the lobbyists. Who are so heavily biased towards the people who control the land of baby jesus

When you are a puppet master and are looking for a puppet, are you going to choose a puppet that can think for itself, or one that cannot think for itself? It's a slam dunk. They are puppets of hidden powers.

This is what happens when you allow another country to pay for all your military defenses for decades - they get to dictate what they want to do with your military!

This is one of the best discussions I have heard. Why is it that such sensible people are in that part of the world, like Jacques Baud, yet idiotic behaviour prevails?

Very good discussion. I was in Berlin in October of 2022. The problems Germany has were palpable then. I cannot explain all of what I saw there, but here is one example which somewhat disputes what Mr. Bistoletti is saying in that the German people know what is going on and give tacit approval. I visited 5 countries well after Covid was over, and many of us were on to what that debacle meant. In 4 out of the 5 countries I visited in Europe, literally no one was wearing masks. But in Berlin, masks were required on public transportation. All the Berliner sheep sat on the trains and buses happily wearing masks and staring straight ahead. There were other things that troubled me, but while on a German train in Berlin, the vision of Germans waving little flags and welcoming Hitler kept going through my head, except that in the place of the German flag, these sheep were waving the Ukrainian flag, which flew above all the German government buildings, replacing the German flag. I hated Berlin and could not wait to leave. I criticize my fellow Americans as well, but the Germans, and not just the government officials, are very troubled people, in my opinion. Scholz should have been removed from office immediately after Nord Stream was destroyed. You could never convince me that he knew about the impending destruction and was entirely complicit. Yet, the German people do nothing. As bad as the US is today, we would not tolerate this. Indeed, we would not.

Fantastic discussion!! How do you manage to get such deep and sensitive thinkers - who are able to perceive the departure of common sense by EU leadership. Wish some of your guests were leading their respective countries- the world would have a chance from the brink of annihilation that the US is nudging the EU towards.

I am happy that someone has the courage answering back.

The Collective West is the Walking Dead No tears shed for them At all

Era of enlightenment is over for EU.

It's extremely straight-forward. After 1991 Europe no longer was a vital ally to the US, but an asset and POTENTIAL RIVAL. Once you understand that, everything from the creation of the EU to contemporary conflicts in Ukraine will start to make sense to you.

They'll herd us all over a cliff like a large herd of lemmings!

I agree with the elites. I SHOULD consult experts. That's why I have consulted experts and believe we should begin peace talks as soon as possible.

It's not just stupidization. It's also these leaders know that nothing would happen to them. They would not go to war, they will be safe

I like the quote I saw earlier on today, "Politicians willingly lie to their press audience and go on to believe what they read in the press".

I always had the feeling that all the mess happening in the EU is ultimately the EU citizens' fault. Thanks for confirming this.

Money and power is the problem

Two of my posts have already been deleted. Let's try for third time lucky. "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Einstein.

We do love your integrity and passion, Pascal, It is clear you care about truth and justice

European leaders are not poooliticians they are technocrats

Or they choose not to know. As a British citizen, what needs to be pointed out is the passing of British Imperialism, when the B. Empire was on its last legs at the end of the C19th and early C20th, to America. Cecil Rhodes and Alfred Milner (an important strategist) formed their Round Table around 1900, which foresaw that the old colonial Empire would not last, and presided over decisions to 'move the capital of Empire from London to Washington'. Thus was born the trans-Atlantic Anglo-American 'special relationship'. In this, it could be said that America inherited a 'Russo-phobia' from Britain, always seeing it as a threat to their interests. This, British conservatives have never been able to let go of, in spite of most British people getting on with life - the Empire was ancient history to them like all other European colonial empires. After WW2, it was evident the Empire was truly over, but even so there came a succession of aged aristocratic Prime Ministers right up to 1964 (one brief exception was the socialist Labour Party govt of 1945-51), whose birth, background and way of thinking was rooted in the early C20th and Empire - including the aged Churchill. In 1956, the same year as the Hungarian Uprising by chance, a British Prime Minister Antony Eden made a foolish, and in the end, embarrassing decision to intervene in Egypt over the possession of the Suez Canal. It all blew up in his face, with public protests against the outmoded imperialistic sabre rattling. It failed - but more importantly, the U.S.A. for its own interests first made it absolutely clear that it would not support the British (to PM Eden's shock and chagrin), and then gave the signals to the British establishment that from now on, America would be Leader and Britain would follow its coat tails - not the other way round. The next Prime Minister, McMillan, is famous for the phrase, ''We'll just have to be the Greeks to their Romans'', meaning (and the aristocracy were well-trained - like Boris Johnson - in their Classical history), that like the ancient Greeks, they had been superseded by the Romans. In a perfect reversal of 1956, PM Tony Blair followed President Bush with an invasion of Iraq in 2003. The similarity of these two incidents is absolutely striking - for both were founded on lies and cover-ups, and this time (Iraq, 2003) the public indignation was immense - the public demonstrations and protests against the war, actually the largest ever seen in London, with it is estimated, possibly as many as a million people involved. Even so - Tony Blair went ahead! His name is blackened, and he dare not show his face on TV in Britain to this day. Thus, supposed British democracy - many of us feel - still thinks it has carte blanche when it comes to foreign policy, as indeed does Washington and its treatment of the American public opinion. I rest my case for the prosecution.

Germany - and the way the society is viewing this conflict in Ukraine, as well in Palestine, shows exactly how whole volks can be directed and mislead if you don't have free media. Our media is so concentrated in so very view hands and thats the main reason, they carry on follow their political leaders. Obviously they only going to wake up and follow approved partly old good values, after the big bang. Sadly

Nietzsche said, you cannot stop decadence, you can only slow it down. So once the faith is gone it's gone.. !

Western values? Were they ever benevolent? Invasions, colonialism, exploitations? Western values?

I'm Russian, I live in Italy and I see that people absolute ignoring whats happening. I think its because several generations here enjoyed quiet life, high level of economy, so they complete do not care what the politicians are doing on their behalf. One day they will have to wake up, hope it will be not too late..

Pascal is an excellent thinker and orator. Thanks from the UK for waking us up from the slumber and alerting us to the dangerous reality we were "drugged" into accepting without consent.

The major mistaje the US made they didn"t split Baltic countries into 1000 states. If they had done it, today they could say: look! 1000+ countries are on our side!!!!

Being stupid is also a human right. 😂😂😂😂

Thank you, both. Pascal you are correct when you say that "it mentally hurts". I am so grateful to have your podcast in my life; we are not alone. I hope that people will awake from their slumbers but it may be when it's too late. As the English poet, T.S. Eliot said, 'humankind cannot bear much reality." No truer words have been spoken. Looking forward to your next podcast. From a fellow European living in Japan.

What most people miss in this conflict is that Ukraine has trillion$ of worth lithium and other rare earth elements, the US passionately wants it before Russia or China takes it. The grain is NOT that important!

It is not stupidity but corruption and arrogance .

EU leaders: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” ― Upton Sinclair

Historically speaking, Germany has always been aligned with the US and the West, in spite of and including their horrendous Nazi past, because white supremacy is institutionally, systemically, structurally, culturally, socially, intellectually and subconsciously integrated and ingrained in the Western psyche, without exception. Russia and Asia have always been the cultural outliers, in spite of the fact that Russians are culturally white people Pascal.

People are asleep in the matrix.

Kakistokrati, from Greek, describes the worst possible western politicians least qualified scruples dangerous deciding the future of Europe/usa

Great channel. Thanks. I want to remind, that during the infamous decade of cruel dictatorships in Latin America (supporting by US), Russia was a friendly country. In fact, not the boogeyman for many people in the Global South

From Italy I say BRAVO!!

It's a small club and we aren't in it.

I am a business economist and a psychological counselor and what I have been observing during the last 50 year from this point of view is,, that the structure of power as it is exerted in big firms has been transferred to how governments exert their power. And in fact this development startet and continued with the success of neoloberalism. And what I also have been observing is, that leaders with that kind of mindset are not corrigible. They only can be stopped by voting a party that stands for something completely different.

Great discussion.

The US's agenda cannot be rejected in European arena.

Democracy always gets dumbed down.

5.02am in the morning, and here I am 1st. Show you how much I love your show. ❤❤

My commentary has been deleted. Second try: In Germany USA and AIPAC have the might to determin what is correct to say and what is not allowed to say.

I am also living in Germany, and this is exactly my view of the German society and political elite. Germany has a rather abscent political instinct, and the political enthusm is often satisfied with lamenting circumstances, not discussing solutions or constructive ideas. And although Germans are very intelligent people it is absolutely perplexing that the niveau of the political understanding seams to be extremely simplified and the people do not long for a level of discussion that would be more respectfull towards there understanding. At the same time we are living a time loop regarding information, struggling to catch up with the last 30 years in witch the world developed forword but many German people do not know or car. It is not tha seldom to meet with even educated and wealthy people that believe there are no TVs in Russia or that Chinese nearly all live in poor places planting rice, regardless that some of the cities in these countries are much more technologically advanced than Berlin, Hamburg or Munich. Sadly the still is some sort of superiority complex in Germany regarding the global margiority, I feel like German people think that the know better than countries that have another option. Maybe these factors contribute to the blindness of there leaders incompetence (not all Germans of course). Until this things are better understood I fear there is no better way for us, and when it happens it could be to late. Honestly I know a lot of people who try to migrate from here... Quite sad, really because I still love Germany and it's people but the future looks more bleak every day - although this is felt, it is also generally deniad.

Thank God there are people like you two to speak for the truth. Truth prevails.

Hi,great interview,you are absolutely right,US is planning to repeat WWII scenario and rescue its economy again.

I'm from '74 and I'm really struggling to find out when this "stupidization" of the society began. I think im the late 90's....but I would also ask what happened and is still happening in Argentina....

On “democracy” in the West. Capitalism was born in the former Roman colonies of western Europe along with the modern incarnations of the Roman Republic, and the republican paradigm is the source of the failures of all modern governments, including the socialist varieties. Hitler’s Nazis and Stalin’s “communists,” despite the ideological differences between their facades, were mirror-image products of republican world-building. Hitler and Stalin were republicans before they were anything else. Mussolini is seen as Roman fascism’s revivalist, but in actuality, the US government is a faithful rendition of the Roman Republic, festooned with dueling fasces and other Roman paraphernalia. Look at photos of the House of Representatives and notice the Roman mace and twin fasces. In case you don’t know, a mace is a weapon for bludgeoning people to death, and it’s sometimes used ceremonially as a symbol of authority. Notice that the axe heads on the fasces are placed to face each other! The symbols in the House of Representatives signify a population divided into opposing camps and ruled over with the threat of capital punishment. The incorrect assumption about the republican construct is that it is only an objective logical framework. In fact, it is a framework that institutionalizes elite rule, regardless of ideology or of the mechanisms for selecting representatives. The logic of a republic is game logic, designed to keep people investing in a game they can never win, while decisions in the real world are made by the house. Republicanism and the federalism required to enforce it are deliberate negations of democracy. American “democracy” can be characterized as the people of Arizona being forced to compete against the people of New York in a Sisyphean “culture war” to force their respective “identities” on each other, while the substantive decision-making of the federal republic is done by a coterie of “elected” pragmatic opportunists openly sponsored by private wealth. The U.S., a nation of more than 330 million people, is effectively ruled by 543 people in the federal government, and approximately the same number in the government of each state. That is approximately 27,700 deciders, or .000084 of the population. Controlling that minuscule fractional minority by any means is what republican politics is all about. We are purported to be a sapient species, and a sapient body politic requires democratic initiatives and reforms with a goal to eventually transition to direct democracy. Direct democracy and the absence of hierarchies is the sapient future. Although it does make sense to learn from socialist critiques, it doesn’t make sense for us to first strive for a socialist republic, especially considering the historical baggage that socialism has acquired. Direct democracy would be an easy sell to people across the current political spectrum, if it were taken seriously by intelligent people as an actual possibility. The problem is that it’s the most radical, empowering and likely to succeed option that is conceivable, and that makes the idea of a socialist republic palatable by comparison to private concerns.

Why do we think that Democracy is the end of all?

Nice to see you here Ezequiel with Pascal. One of may favourites

Black Rock and Vanguard

Cool Pascal for making use of the stupidization narrative as is so fitting. I think there's more than a dash of it in the American congress as well

You are both benevolent, but you live outside of reality. You speak as if this control system can be fixed, but it can't because it is designed to be unfixable and immutable by the rules of the system itself. This has been going on for thousands of years and generations have spent their lives without doing anything, and regulation and control have only become more extensive over the centuries.

The financial system is at its end, completely over-indebted with no way of ever repaying this debt. To me it looks like Europe will be reduced to rubble and ashes. This decimates the population and creates two markets. First the arms market and then the reconstruction. That this is very much in the interests of the Americans to temporarily eliminate Europe as a competitor and to prevent a merger between Russian mineral resources and German engineering. But why Europe and especially the German government is acting against the interests of its own people and industry is still a mystery to me. But the new era since 2019 has shown one thing clearly: when media is no longer free and concentrated in very few hands, then real democracy is over.

They actually believe sustainability is real. That's the most worrying thing.

I am starting to get the impression, the european countries try to soothe the american citizens. By making them believe their politicians achieve something on the "world stage". While the problems do not get solved, or even smaller through them. All the US-politicians need, is a stage to present themselves. A people so saturated by PR will swallow it Hook, Line.And Sinker.

The dissociation between Western politics and the public is mainly due to socio-economic tensions that were, of course, accentuated by the war and the subsequent inflation. The vast majority don't even know that Maidan was a Western-backed coup. I'd like to see a poll on that one.

How right you are about contemporary politics and politicians!👍👋

Actually there is a school of thought that contributes to "suicidal Europe" - it is the School of Frankfurt.

Thanks for your effort 🙏...

Greetings from the Dominican Republic to all the sound people around the world. I'd like you, honorable guys, if possible for you in the near futyre, that you have a talk about how the International Comminity can help Haiti in its terrible situation that country is in now. Thanks a lot. Your talks are, as always, amazing.

As Ray McGovern once said about today's crop of, especially, neo-liberal European political leaders...: *They are a bunch of nuts, held together by a lot of dough* .

Its call monetizing of political power. Follow the fools, US, follow the money for ownself.

Really, really good show.

What a relief to hear some sense being spoken!!!

I am an American, but I am honestly surprised why Europe doesn’t take a more independent view. A war will be so much worse for Europe than the US

excellent, merci.

Почему почти всегда обсуждается готовы (европа или страны европы) к войне с Россией? Задумайтесь о другом, а зачем Вам воевать с Россией? Россия не собирается воевать с Европой, ей это не нужно.

They are compromised or corrupt, or more often, both.

Pascal, thank you for your tireless work, be mindful of your own emotional well being.

Laws of the Universe. 1. Nothing comes for free. 2. All actions and inaction too, have consequences. So the stupidity of EU and the lack of reaction by the citizens will have unpleasant effects

In the Uk its even worse the media is 7.5 / 10 right wing and then there's the class system, the royal family etc etc

Europeans used to be very proud of their culture and sophistication, now the large numbers of certain religion which is not very big on tolerance of different ideas Europa went on full "Idiocracy" mode.

Thanks for this very insightful discussion.