I’d have rather heard the two mixes level-matched, or at least a lot closer to being so. Having one mix considerably louder than the other can skew one’s perception when listening for the sonics of the processing. Anyhooo... just a thought. FWIW
It actually makes perfect sense to be able to level match your processing in the mixer section so to not trick your ears. Remember that to the ears, louder is better. So if the mix is louder, how do you know if you made it better and not just louder? Unless just louder is what you were after of course.
Hi Mr Sorcerer, what a great review of Mixbox, it encouraged me to get a version of it to try for myself. i agree that it has everything that you need to mix a project from drums to voice. The High and low pass filters are available form so many other sources whether as stock plugins in a DAW to third party plugins, so it's easy to play around with them once you have stemmed your tracks, for example.Once again , great review and I will look out for your new and old videos which will help guide me to being a better mixer and producer of my projects. Happy New Year
@@AudioSorcerer You are most welcome. I'm a bass player (16 years with George Michael) that has turned to writing tunes from home as live playing is out of the question right now. I'm learning how to record and mix with the best plugins I can get my hands on (Waves, Izotope, IKMultimedia, Black Rooster, Celemony, Klanghelm, Klevgrand, Metric Halo, Native, Mia Labs, Slate Digital, Soundtoys, Infected Mushrooms, Presonus, Tokyo Dawn Labs and XLN Audio) Your tutorials are helping me to achieve a better standard of production.
Thank you for reviewing this, as I have been looking everywhere on RU-vid for a review but have only found reviews on it in other foreign languages. It's very much appreciated and cleary articulated, as I am considering this plugin myself but am unsure as to how it compares? Continue to keep up the good work, you have earned yourself another subscriber!
@@AudioSorcerer You're very welcome, I appreciate the time and effort you put into this review of Mixbox. It would be good to see the presets available on the FX side of things, to see what else it is capable of other than mixing itself. What do you think of Mixbox compared to Steven Slate, Izotope Neutron and PSP Infinistrip? How does it differ from the rest? Thank you again!
I think it's more versatile than Slate having effects and amp simulation built into it. The Slate VMR has more modules I would use regularly though like the blue 1176. For neutron, I usually only use that plugin when I'm not able to get the sound where it needs to be. I haven't tried the PSP yet but it's on my list.
@@AudioSorcerer Thank you so much for your reply, that helps me all the more on my decision as to whether it's worth getting or not as I am more interested in the FX side of things where it concerns sound design, that it's capable of producing if it can. Looking forward to more reviews from you, it is a pleasure to be a subscriber of your channel. Thank you!
mr vad you can try it out for free, you know? It is not a mastering-box.. it's a mixbox. That means in comparison to the T-RackS-Suite you will get a lot of creative/musical effects that allow you to paint a picture in much broader and faster strokes. When it comes to Presets the Mixbox is a beast. It's a great tool for a faster workflow! So yes, this box is great for sound-design.. that's what it does. If you own enough other plugins from IKM you can get it for 100€ + vat atm
How CPU intensive is this? I'm a big fan of several of the T-Racks modules, but some are CPU hogs. And I've found that using the TRacks Suite is almost unusable for the same reason. So I usually stick to Slate's VMR. Just don't want to buy this, load up one instance, and see a 20% CPU hit like with TRacks Suite. BTW, night and day on that rough mix! Really brought it to life.
Thanks man! I used the MixBox on every track including the mix bus. It seemed to do pretty well regarding CPU usage. I think you can get a trial off their website to test it out first. That might be the best thing to do.
Let's give it a try, besides, I really like my custom processing chain, mainly integrated by AR TG Mastering by Abbey Road, it simply can do magic to my mixes.
@@Keroser1983 Mainly what I do is to use the tape EQ at 7.5 pointing to the right. In the limiter the makeup to about 4.0 and the mix knob to 65%. In the filter section turn the presence knob to 3.45, and at the end of the mastering chain the TONAL BALANCE from Izotope with a curve matched to a song similar to the one you're working on. I hope it helps!
Thank your for that great review. I own like 16 T-Racks plugins , and I would say I prefer invest more money to get the full TR package than buying MixBox, it looks great but very limited comparing to TR.
@@AudioSorcerer Why do you think so? I have the complete T-Racks suite and i feel like i am missing A LOT, I'm talking about the new reverbs and modulation fxs..
it's a very different thing alltogether.. T-RackS is a Mastering-Suite.. it's for perfect fine-tuning.. for the last touch. Mixbox is a Mixbox.. it's for bigger musical and creative decisions in the mix. I already owned T-RackS-Suite.. the whole thing. Still bought the Mix-box yesterday, because it's exactly what I was missing from IKM... yes all of these plugins were already available in some of their plugins like amplitude, sampletank and syntronik (and I own all of them).. but I always hated the fact that I couldn't use the plugins from these Plugins on other tracks/instruments outside of amplitude, sampletank and syntronik. This Mixbox fixes things in a big way - for me.
BSmiet89 - T-RackS in itself isn’t just a mastering program, (though IK makes the Suite, which you mentioned, and is designed specifically for that)... T-Racks makes all the processors that are in this new MixBox 500 Series rack as stand-alone VST/AU plugs, so if you have any of these individual processors, you can use them with any DAW platform, they don’t require any type of “shell” or IK rack system to use them. I’m not implying that I think that this MixBox rack is a bad thing; not at all... and for the price it’s certainly worth it, particularly for those who prefer to purchase their plugs outright as opposed to paying monthly or annual subscription rates to companies like Slate or McDSP, to get their similar 500 series processors (nor am I knocking these other companies, either)... But, as a user of T-RackS plugs for many years, I can say that, comparative to the stand-alone T-RackS plug-ins, there are some important features on some of the standalone VST plugs that have been cut, in order to scale them down to fit into this virtual 500 series rack. Examples of this, would be things like the SSL-style EQ not having HPF/LPF, or the 670 Limiter being VERY stripped down in its controls, etc. But again, at the price, it’s well worth having if you don’t own the standalone versions of any of the T-RackS plugs. And, according to IK’s website, there are discounts available for those customers who have already spent a certain amount with IK in the past. FWIW
@@donnythompson408 well you are wrong when you think that the T-RackS makes all of the plugins that are available in the Mix-Box. I'll have to repeat myself and tell you that the Mix-Box is intended for broader, faster, more musical and creative strokes.. which is what I define as the Mixing/Production-stage. You are right you have more knobs on the T-RackS-Suite Plugins (and I own the full Suite too).. and thus you are able to fine-tune better.. which I define as the Mastering-stage of a Production... but you are missing a lot of effects that come with sampletank/syntronik and Amplitude that are really helpful for sounddesign when you only have the Suite. Even if you own Snytronik, SampleTank and Amplitude (which I do) the Mix-box is a great tool.. for the simple reason that I can not use the Syntronik/SampleTank Plugins on any Track that is not a Syntronik/SampleTank Track. The Amplitudeplugin I can use.. buuut it's limited to the Amplitude-Plugins and is very heavy on the CPU... so if I only want to use 1 or 2 of the Amplitude-Plugins on a Track I still would have to put on the Amplitude-plugin as a whole. The Mixbox fixed a major issue with the Mixing/Production-stage plugins from IKM... that's my take on it. Plus it's quite handy and speeds up the workflow considerably (for me). I just did a mix.. guess what.. I used the Mixbox on Instrument-groups, the verse, the hook and the double-bus, but I decided to use the T-RackS-Suite for the Voxmix-bus, the Beatmix-Bus, the overall Submix-bus and the Masterbus. (and I used single Plugins for the send-effects) But I agree that I would have liked a Lowcut and Highcut option for all the Plugins in the Mixbox, maybe seperate from the plugin itself and underneath where you have the wet/dry-fader. However the EQ-81 comes with a low/highcut option.. so if you really need it you can always put in the EQ-81. PS: You can use the Mixbox in any DAW too.. but yes, the Plugins that come within the Mixbox are not available as Standalone Plugins by simply buying the Mixbox..
May be stupid comment but I kind of felt that the Channel Strips and EQs are very limited, both in numbers and the areas that they cover individually. I know these are analog modelled ones but additional knobs covering more areas would be nice. Cool video btw. Thanks.
@@AudioSorcerer no. I mean for iPad. iOS is the mobile operating system. It’s definitely already on Mac. But this is a game changer for mobile music creators. Fabfilter released a bundle last year of their eq, limiter,reverb, gate, MB, and Saturn but this is pretty big for iOS because they haven’t had any of those old equipment models for iPad. I do most my music on an iPad so it’s very exciting to have something like MixBox to work with.
Audio Sorcerer thanks man for this review. It's too bad I went with Waves Labor Day sale. For 150, I got 8 plugs Scheps73, ssl comp, ssl e, j37tape, waves summing nls, Greg wells Tonecentric, Maserati Group,etc. this is a major IK product for the price, I'm overwhelmed with the too much choices lol. This IK is beautiful.
if i create a preset in Mixbox for something like the Black 76 which has a T Racks version, can the preset be imported into the T Racks Black 76 plugin?
You will still need the FabFilter. The EQ's in MixBox model vintage Analog EQs and don't have the fine tune editing FabFilter has. There is a time and place for every type of EQ.
Of course there is a difference in volume. I'm also doing mix bus processing with MixBox. The point of the tutorial was to show you what MixBox could do for a mix. 👍
Audio Sorcerer - with all due respect, you could still demonstrate the before and after difference(s) with both being the same relative volume level... Render a mix without processing, then do a version with the processing... import both mixes into your DAW, and match the levels of both to a level of somewhere around -18db LUFS (I), and THEN A/B them. This way, the huge difference in volume isn’t skewing our perception of what the processing has done to the mix. My hunch is, that if you had reversed the two versions, and made your original, unprocessed mix louder than the MixBox mix... and then played the processed, quieter mix first, and then played the unprocessed but louder mix after that... that more than a few would have perceived the louder, unprocessed mix to sound “better” than the processed but quieter mix.
Hey Donny, I appreciate your input. As mentioned above, the tutorial was about hearing a song mixed using MixBox. I put the before version in as a bonus. It wasn't necessary for someone to get the jist of what MixBox sounds like. Thanks for checking out my video.
Im trying to use mixbox for mixing on headphone but when I try to use presets it throws high sound which very harsh for ears, can you please give me help me how to deal with it.
@@vcodev108 You'll need to modify the presets then to work for your certain scenario. Presets are just starting points. They often need a lot of modifications.
"I dont know if you would want to blend the dry signal of a compressor, it doesnt make a whole lot of sense but you can if you want to"...... Oh no, because blending a Wet/Dry signal for a compressor is something noones ever heard of........... I mean..... You have 900 subscribers and I'm not sure what to make of that.
@@user-gq2dr8pp5l For fuck sake, so ok you've highlighted a fact that I missed.... and that is that he mentions EXACTLY why you'd want to parallel a compressor in the same video as he calls it a weird thing to do? I can't tell if you're taking the piss or secretly helping me out. Thanks for helping me out anyway! haha
@@user-gq2dr8pp5lAlso slightly confused as to why you're using a Twitch emote code on RU-vid... a whole lot of fuckin mixed signals I'm getting here, are you confused, or are you having fun and getting carried away. We're all having fun and a good time anyway thats what matters!