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iKon Flybarless and Hobbywing telemetry via f.port on R161 • No Inverter! • No Solder! TX16s 

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In this video I'll show you how to flash the Radiomaster R161 receiver with f.port v2 and how to use f.port in your iKon configuration for control and telemetry without the use of an inverter and with no soldering required. iKon is a flybarless controller for helicopters.
00:00 Intro
00:39 Prep Cable
03:43 Connect RX to Radio
06:06 Flash the RX
07:13 Bind R161 to TX16s
08:44 Final Wiring
11:30 Configure iKon
11:50 Add Telemetry Sensors
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@erl919
@erl919 2 года назад
It's good you made this tutorial. I remember it took me a lot of readings in different forums to figure this out.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
That's exactly what I had in mind when I made it. It's relatively fiddly, but the video shows all the requisite steps.
@wassimmatta8390
@wassimmatta8390 2 года назад
John, you’ve done a fantastic job with your tutorials. Keep up the awesome work! Much appreciated!
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
Much appreciated!
@eladdov8601
@eladdov8601 Год назад
Thanks man! I used this guide to connect an rxsr to the icon and it works great !
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
Great to hear!
@rock4401
@rock4401 2 года назад
Was a big help John, saved us a lot of research.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
Glad to help. This is a very simple and elegant way to get full telemetry from iKon and a Hobbywing ESC. Works very well in my setups so far.
@woofie7520
@woofie7520 2 года назад
OK. I have now flashed my R161 with F Port. Installed it on my Trex 470 with the Ikon system. Works great. Getting telemetry from the system. Installed the MSH Brain2 lua script on my TX16S and can see and change the Ikon settings from the TS16S. Thanks John. I am a very happy camper.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
Great to hear! Good job. Cool stuff right?
@thebg8774
@thebg8774 2 года назад
Perfect timing John! I was just talking to Freddie last night about doing this…👍 😎#theBaldGorilla
@madbren
@madbren 2 года назад
Brilliant tutorial John 👍👍
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
Thanks Bren!
@erl919
@erl919 2 года назад
There is also a lua scrip for the ikon/brain you can use with the Radiomaster.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
Yup, and it works well. That might just be the next video ;)
@nickdean468
@nickdean468 2 года назад
That is so cool RPM.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
Works too :)
@nickdean468
@nickdean468 2 года назад
I was wondering if it only works on iKon 2 flight controller or any flight controller like the H1. Barvion Demon x3., Etc.
@unger_cnc
@unger_cnc 2 года назад
Awesome video! Subscribed. I plan on converting my helis over to my Radiomaster TX16s. Do you have any videos on setting up a heli model on the radio?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
Welcome to the channel. Just so happens I do have a heli setup vid: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xrzejjKo1xA.html
@scrc511
@scrc511 2 года назад
Thanks John, watched your informative vid. Guess with the Vbar Clone, not sure if I can use the Fport so I’m gonna have to use Sbus. If it’s not going to ikon FBL unit, I don’t need to flash it right should work as is or I can still flash it for the telemetry to work?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
I don’t know anything about vbar.
@jimmarks8368
@jimmarks8368 Год назад
I've got 2 helis setup as per your video with R161's with TX16s integration, have you used the integration as I'm getting all the listings apart from half the gov page, just wondering if you can confirm this please.
@chargestate42
@chargestate42 2 года назад
I thought I was going to have to scour the internet to figure out how to do this with my R161. This saved me so much time, was simple to understand, and answered all my questions. Thank you! Is this process documented in some way or is it hidden deep in some documentation?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
They actually have a diagram in the Ikon software setup to show you wiring.
@chargestate42
@chargestate42 2 года назад
@@RCVideoReviews Well the video was way easier to follow, thanks!
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
You’re welcome.
@spartan3299
@spartan3299 2 года назад
Yeah, Powering and binding from the external module bay port...why didn't I think of that?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
:) I tinker alot. Don't kick yourself.
@nickdean468
@nickdean468 Год назад
I'm just wondering if I could do this with the jumper R1+ since the R161 is no longer available
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
Probably if you can find them and f.port firmware for it.
@chargestate42
@chargestate42 Месяц назад
Since the 161 is no longer sold what are the options? Can you use the new RP3-H ?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Месяц назад
RP3-H is ELRS/CRSF. If you have an ELRS TX you can bind the two. I haven't tested for telemetry using CRSF on ikon though and likely won't as I'm leaving iKon for Rotorflight.
@JD_fpv
@JD_fpv 2 года назад
Will the rx still output sbus from the sbus wire?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
Not while running the f.port firmware. f.port combines s.bus and telemetry together on the wire. So the other end of the wire needs to understand f.port.
@bentslattsveen2208
@bentslattsveen2208 2 года назад
Hi John. Is the only reason to switch to F.Port to get the telemetry working? Do you know where to get hold of RM R161 (know it is discontinoud)?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
Telemetry works with other options. F.port allows control and telemetry on one wire without the s.bus inverter. Racedayquads still has R161s in stock.
@bitogre
@bitogre 2 года назад
@@RCVideoReviews Looks like even Racedayquads is now sold out. Can this be done with another RX and the TX16S or how would it be done with separate S.Bus and S.Port connections?
@djnitor
@djnitor 2 года назад
Hi John, I mod the cable but when flashing my R168 & R161 it won't accept the flashing.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
I've had that problem myself a couple of times. I've found two fixes: 1) Flash a stock s.bus firmware first. 2) Use the frsky stk tool. I have seen what you're talking about and when they are good and stuck, the only thing that worked was the stk tool. It's not supposed to be like that and I'm not sure why it happens, but those are the fixes I've found.
@djnitor
@djnitor 2 года назад
@@RCVideoReviews I found the problem, it's a faulty wiring. Thank you, John.
@microhelijon
@microhelijon 2 года назад
Hi there, Does this R161 telemetry feature works only on the Ikon FBL unit. What about BeastX. thanks
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
Sorry, don't know about the BeastX or if BeastX even supports F.port v2.
@microhelijon
@microhelijon 2 года назад
@@RCVideoReviews alright.thanks
@erl919
@erl919 2 года назад
I bit out of topic but Would you say that R161 firmware V2 is better than V1? Range difference?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
I can't answer this with any fact-based information because I didn't do any sort of side-by-side comparison or testing. My suspicion is there would be no difference in range.
@unger_cnc
@unger_cnc 2 года назад
Hey is there any chance you could throw that firmware file into a google drive folder I could download it from? I can't seem to find that firmware anywhere.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
There’s a link to it in the description.
@unger_cnc
@unger_cnc 2 года назад
Thank you!
@jamesceastep8874
@jamesceastep8874 2 года назад
John: I can see you were very considerate to provide a table of contents to enable jumping from one section to another. However, I think you lost some (many?) of us by failing to describe what exactly the ICON is, and why we need to use it. One reader's comment suggested that this mod is useful to enable the use of F4 flight controllers to do some F7 flight controller functions. How does this work and how is it truly useful? Is this functionality useful for fixed wing applications as well as helicopter uses? How? Please describe. I suspect that an entirely separate video may be necessary to fully explain the utility and how/when/where the R161 and other F4 flight controllers are used in this purpose. Thanks. - Jim
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
Jim, I don't usually break down specific use cases for every piece of equipment I review. i.e. When I do a video on a Matek F722 I don't explain "this is a flight computer that I will load iNav on for use in a fixed wing airplane" At some level, people that watch these videos have to be accountable to pick up google and ask it what an iKon2 does. The video thumbnail and video description explain precisely what this function does: "In this video I'll show you how to flash the Radiomaster R161 receiver with f.port v2 and how to use f.port in your iKon configuration for control and telemetry without the use of an inverter" Let me ask you, did you search google for iKon2? Because when I do, the very first hit is "iKon2 FLYBARLESS" Up until a few weeks ago I'd never flown a helicopter, but even then I knew the term FLYBARLESS applied to helicopters. Regarding the question from Drone Pilot below: He's a special case: #1 He's an experienced quad pilot with lots of hours configuring betaflight #2 He's a degreed electrical engineer, so when he hears terms like inverted f.port he knows that the implications are. #3 His experience with both flight computers and electronics let him find entirely new ways of doing things like stuffing express lrs modules inside his radio in place of a 4-in-1 module. I appreciate your comment, but you have to understand if I can't make assumptions about what people know, or if people can't take a minute or two to use google and ask a simple question, then I have no possible way of figuring out where to start or stop a video. Suppose I did describe the flybarless, then the next questions become, Can I put a flybarless on my plane? Can I put it on my quad? Can I put it on my car? Why f.port vs s.bus? Why doesn't it come with f.port enabled? How does f.port work? Why do you need a telemetry wire from the esc? Why doesn't the current sensor work? Why pin 5 instead of pin 6? Why not use the inverted s.bus pad? I have to eventually put a stake in the ground or these videos will never get finished. I'll also note, I've never seen you in discord. You should join us there and you can get realtime information about what's going on with the channel.
@user-myoungE
@user-myoungE Год назад
Is it possible in kbar too? can you do it too? I want to know how.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
I don't know. Would need a kbar with which to test.
@davidosborne4970
@davidosborne4970 2 года назад
Will this option work for the opentx integration?meaning the brain2 lua script.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
I use it regularly. Works fine.
@davidosborne4970
@davidosborne4970 2 года назад
@@RCVideoReviews that’s great to hear,thanks
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
You're welcome. I have this setup on all 3 helis.
@davidosborne4970
@davidosborne4970 2 года назад
@@RCVideoReviews I’m in the process of making the switch from spektrum to opentx
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
@@davidosborne4970 If you can find a stash of these r161s out there, grab them. They're no longer being made and they are a very good solution for use on Helis with an Ikon.
@kenwu324
@kenwu324 Год назад
Can’t get R161 anymore, is there anything in the market can replace the R161 doing the same thing?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
Search for s.bus f.port receivers.
@russgreer4012
@russgreer4012 Год назад
I found a place in the UK that still has R161s in stock (FCC and EU), ordered and got it in flashed as in the video. Ordered 2 more at $16.58 + $6.05 shipping (air mail took about 10 days to the US), checking today they upped the pricing on them by about 10 dollars... supply and demand i guess.
@kenwu324
@kenwu324 Год назад
@@russgreer4012 do you mind to send me the link? Please
@frankhudson3582
@frankhudson3582 2 года назад
It appears the R161 has been discontinued. What's the receiver we should use in its place?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
if you want a direct replacment, the xsr uses the same firmware.
@frankhudson3582
@frankhudson3582 2 года назад
@@RCVideoReviews thank you for the reply
@nh-eq6bt
@nh-eq6bt 2 года назад
Thanks John for another helpful video, I have a question about the r161 receiver Do you think it can work with 7.4 volts or 8.4 volts? I ask because it says 6 volts max Thanks in advance..
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 2 года назад
They're known to work at 8.4v. I use 7.4v on mine. I also believe the manual has been updated to reflect 8.4v
@nh-eq6bt
@nh-eq6bt 2 года назад
@@RCVideoReviews Thanks John..excellent I will order some, by the way do you think I can get the same telemetry also with spirit gt flybarless?
@Athaprat
@Athaprat 2 года назад
The problem is that they are no available rx168 radiomaster on the market....!
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