Illumination's Despicable Me 4 Was a Waste Of Time... 

Did you see Despicable Me 4 before me? What did you think of it...?

Let's be honest, "4" in a movie title is usually bad news

I know it's "cartoon logic" but it's weird that over the course of now 4 movies, the girls didn't age at all, yet time kept going for a baby to be born. It's kindof a shame that despite the first movie being all about Gru growing a heart and adopting the 3 he would've used as pawns in his evil scheme, now they're pushed to the back because the Minions were a smash hit. Even if they came up with "things" for them to do during the 3, or now 4 movies, you can tell they were an afterthought compared to the Minion's antics and the main plot with Gru.

I don't like them having a baby at all. Gru was already a father with 3 adopted daughters, and babies are annoying in movies. It feels like them giving Gru a biological kid is a slight to the girls, as if they're not his "real" daughters because they're adopted. It might have been okay if the girls were more grown up. Margo being nearly an adult, Edith in her mid teens, and Agnes just becoming a teen. Then it might make more narrative sense to give him a new kid because his girls are growing up.

The only part I hate is that they missed the chance to call Gru Junior “Grunior” smh

My issue with this movie is that it tries to do too much. So many different plot threads went on that none of them either got enough screen time or felt like they actually mattered

At this point, they might as well call it "Despicable Cash grab"

Bro the villain had a army of cockroaches and never used them. I REPEAT THE VILLAIN HAD AN ARMY OF COCKROACHES AND NEVER USED THEM 🤦🏾‍♂️

Gru did not fear Vector, El macho or Balthazar Bratt had hard times with all three of them such as being shrinked and having to safe the girls from Vector, having your partner and your minions kidnapped by El macho, being publicly humiliated and nearly killed by Balthazar Bratt but despite all this Gru defeated all three of them but yet in this movie he runs away and goes into hiding from a cockroach 🪳 looking dweeb.

I swear I used to love the first movie when I was a kid. I used to watch it with my brother all day, over and over again.

Why does no one talk about the plot hole from the end of “despicable me 3” where the brother steals the minions 😕😐😐😕😕😅😓

I remember sitting in the movie theater and just… disappointed. There was close to no plot. And there were so many things going on that any plot that was there was drowned away. They made a bunch of jokes and references, but no story. So I left the theatre questioning what I just watched.

The first despicable me movie was absolutely great, but then everything just started to flop...

This felt like a Despicable Me Tv series sticked together into a movie

honestly the story would've been good if poppy was a neglected child (which is why she wants to go into villainy) but is taken under Grus wing as he tries to guide her towards good and teaches her that just because she wasn't treated well that doesn't mean she has to go into a villain role. This in turn could get Gru thinking about how maybe HE has been neglecting his OWN girls and could try to address that and have a heart to heart with them about the move and the new baby etc etc this would also make sense since Gru himself was a neglected child :/

Despicable me is a ip that just needs to make a show. Movies dont do it, and after 3 they should've done a Gru chasing Dru show. It actually might have been really enjoyable to watch as a series.

Nah bro they ruined gru hes sorta weak in this one like look at the first movie when vector takes his kids he goes absolutely fuckin beast mode but when that bug villain takes his baby son hes just weak

Say it with me, guys: "It should've stayed as a duology."

The one supermarket scene with the lady who was mad that her hair was ruined was a reference to the Terminator movies and franchise. If you listen to the music in the background, it is a *_DIRECT_* parody to the one of the T-800 throughout all of the movies.

The song Pharrell made was the only saviour of this movie

The very least they could've done is follow up the sequel bait from the end of the last movie.

This movie franchise original target audience is maturing/aging. So, this franchise should also mature with them. The people in charge are still trying to cater to kids, but kids clearly don't seem to be so invested, except for "look funny minions." If they took their writing seriously and respected their own lore, the previous long-term audience would come back for more while gaining new, younger fans as a domino effect for years to come. But if they keep at it with nonsense and minimum character development, then no more DM films will transcend. Just fast food cinema. Take your pick.

I've not seen this movie, but after hearing it's essentially a "random BS go" type of film, I wont.

One of my friends wants our group to go see this film tomorrow for her *25th* birthday... needless to say, not looking forward to it. Especially not after this review. Pray for me lol

YOOO GRU AIN’T A VIRGIN ANYMORE 👍

I have a friend named Poppy. One night a few days ago, she sent me a message at 3AM saying: "I'm gonna kill myself. There's a character in Despicable Me 4 named 'Poppy'" She's already been teased a lot because of the Trolls movie. I think this is her breaking point 💀

I don't get the 'evil school' thing, coz it was established in DM2 and even in the rise of Gru that as a kid he went to a normal school where he was made fun of for trying to be an villain

This was the worst of the franchise. 1. Despicable Me came out 14 years ago, so the original fans are 14 years older. Why is this movie made for kids even younger than their original fans? 2. Gru stopped being a villain after movie 1. That's what made it interesting, without this it's a bad spy movie. Spy Kids at least stuck to a gimmick. Why is a former supervillain groveling to make friends with the neighbor? 3. Filler. The movie is only an hour and a half, with too many scenes which do nothing for the story, and are hardly funny enough to justify at all. The salon, supermarket, and tennis scenes were just painful, boring and pointless. All they did was show our former supervillain and superspy being utterly incompetent in normal life, which isn't fun. 4. They skip the plot. Supervillain escapes from maximum security, off screen. Evil schoolmaster tracks down the family under witness protection, no explanation. Baby and supervillain are transformed from insects back to humans, like it's no problem. We get filler scenes while the plot is swiss cheese.

"Despicable Me 4 is a waste of time" You don't say!!

This is the first video I’ve seen about this movie that actually mentioned Sofia Vergara’s character, goes to show how little relevance she genuinely had in the whole thing

I think the "Despicable Me" franchise could still work with multiple sequels if they didn't keep introducing so many new characters, and focused on the ones they already have. You could make one film exploring Gru's individual relationship with the girls: One film for Edith, one for Agnes and one for Margo. They could even work as prequel films or even shorts, you could even do a spin-off about the girls life before Gru because I'm fairly certain they're not biologically related to each other.

I found the movie ok nothing too crazy, but I wish they tried not to put too many plots in the movie. Honestly each plot could of been their own movie, like the parents learning how to live a normal life and take care of their baby or one of just training poppy to be a villain, it would of been full circle as a famous villain taught Gru so him being a famous ex villain teaches a child who was like him to be a villain. I just think they wanted to do to much so it became watered down.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="885">14:45</a> It's Dr. Nefario, not Dr. Nefarious. You're mixing it up with one of the villains from Ratchet & Clank

Alr, here are my ideas to improve Despicable me 4, so let’s get on to it. (This may have spoilers) ------------------ - Instead of making Gru jr a baby, he should be a kid, so it would be sympathetic and some good character development with gru. - The opening scene should have started with the news showing that Dru has been arrested by the *AVL* due to a chase along with Vector sent back to earth (so it makes sense for the post credit thing) + also the minions are in custody for details. - Also as Gru is watching the TV, feeling sad for his brother’s arrest but gets called by the *AVL* that maxime la mal is their wanted target. - After that call, make him prepare his *AVL* suit and also make his car entry like how dru’s car is like in the 3rd movie. - At the villains ceremony, instead of making gru reveal that he’s an *AVL* agent, The *AVL* agents have no patience so they charge into it. - As the *AVL* agents are fighting Maxime la mal, they should call his name to reveal that gru is an agent and the villains are shocked. - As Gru has no choice but to fight Maxime la mal, the villains should also help maxime la mal, but some of the *AVL* agents retain them to prevent the villains not to hurt gru. - While when gru is fighting maxime la mal, Lucy calls him to take her to the hospital. But while when gru is shocked and thinking about it, Maxime la mal should uppercut his jaws. - As Maxime la mal tries to kill gru, the *AVL* agents use some device to prevent him from killing gru and arrest him. - After that, gru rushes back to the car and then it cuts to lucy trying to give birth with Dr nefario, the girls, and the 3 minions, and the man himself, Gru. Accompanying him and helping her. - After when Lucy gives birth, it cuts to Gru Jr, crying, and then when the characters says the one word “aww” Gru picks him up and covers him in a blanket, Lucy tells him to name him they should make it name him “Gru Jr” - Now as i am human and not a AI robot, i shall rest now until i feel like editing it again and putting my new ideas into it.

Minions 3 Comes Out On June 30th 2027

My thoughts... minor spoilers ahead... There is a lot to go through here, it feels like 10 trailers and 1 tv episode made into a movie, with some jokes from many years ago like "Honey Badger don't care" circa 2011. First movie came out in 2010 and was not aimed at 1-5 year olds, this one is 14 years later and is aimed at 1-5 year olds. The first 2 "jokes" of the movie are "they don't make regular milk anymore" which is a 1/10 Dad joke, and a goat that poops. The goat and baby raises several issues if you are dealing with Earth. Assuming the first movie was set in summer 2010, movie 2 can happen within days, on average 12 months to plan a nice wedding, Lucy is Pregnant in summer 2011 and this is roughly when they get the goat. Gru Jr. Is born 9 months later in fall, 12 months later he might speak, so we are probably into fall 2012. Not a problem but... So if Agnus was 4 at the start, Edith was 8, and Margo was 11... then Agnus would be 6, Edith would be 10, and Margo would be 13. But the baby goat would go from baby to adult in just 6-8 months, so Agnus' goat was young, had a son, and that son had a son to get the current one looking so young. Starting Scene, big issue Like 12 AVL agents attacked an evil high school with staff and a principle and 30 evil guests... and they somehow captured everyone or put trackers on them to capture before they left unharmed??? An evil high school that has no weapons checks and honestly should not have let Gru in because he's a famous snitch. Later all the bag guys from all 6 movies are in prison, the minions break the walls open, and none of them leave... none of these evil people who sing about how evil they are act like real humans. Big issue The Mega Minions story did not connect at all, AND most of the minions went to Dru by the end of the 3rd movue so why does Gru have more than a couple of his most loyal? Minor Why was Gru a solar panel salesman, we never saw a scene. Minor Why was Lucy so bad at hair, she was smart in movie 2 and could have at least looked up some basics Major Margo went to high school. Edith and Agnus went to Karate for like 8 hours, was it a just a Karate themed daycare, is the Karate Daycare Worker going to have to sue the AVL for emotional damages and lost wages while he can't wotk and has to move because he lost the respect of his students? Yes, somehow the evil school had to only be 10-30 minutes away from the second town and over an hour away from the city. Doable, but weird. Witness Protection doesn't really work without the disguses, Gru and the minions still look like Gru and the minions. I feel bad about the one who got stuck in a vending machine until he ran out of snacks and starved, why couldn't they just let him out by the next scene? Also who is Ralph, what happened to Kevin and former king Bob? Climax felt weak compared to the all the 5 other movies, felt smaller scale and lower quality action. I have seen Spy X Family, Gru and Lucy doing Tennis had amazing promise, and they gave up for dozens of red card jokes that did not land. Gru should have expected an evil high school pet to have a tracker, and the evil principal should have sent the bug man to Poppy's Treehouse, she only got to Gru's house a few minutes before the bug man arrived. Missing scene, I wanted to see how the bug man's bugs got hin out of super jail. Kharma Chamelon is a weird song choice, puts talent show around 1984 (after song came out), almost no 5 year olds are going to get a 1984 song reference with lipstick and wig. So somehow Gru was about 10 in 1969 to see the moon landing live, and then 14 in 1984 for talent show. That one bothers me.... In my theatre, the nearby kids almost never laughed, but a few freaked out at when the bug man gave his angry threat video.

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if it had vector return and has him hiring all the other previous villains (so scarlet and the ones from rise of gru could be from a retirement home for villains) it would have been nice

They should really let the three girls grow up, so that there's more potential for conflict. Have Margot go through high school drama, Edith become more rebellious, and Agnes become a little older, so that she can contribute more to the story.

I went to see it with my little nephew and niece and, at one point, even they were bored. There was a man behind us who was histerically laughing at every single joke, though. He seemed to be seriously enjoying it.

This movie felt rushed especially the final battle that felt like a battle that should’ve occurred in the middle of the movie

Is it bad that me and my family actually liked Despicable Me 4 when we saw it in theaters and laughed at every joke and had a great time together?

Despicable me was a waste of time. The grass is green, the sky is blue.

But is it… … … … bananas?

IMO the movie has the following flaws: (text dump btw) - Storylines that have potential but barely have any purpose or effect on the plot and are only used for the funnies. (aka. how Lucy and the girls adapt to life in Mayflower) - Maxime has NO purpose as a villain: he’s introduced as someone who used to bully Gru, then painted as a victim who bullied him bcuz “gRu sTolE My sONg aT ThE tAlEnT sHOW!”, only for it to be revealed at the end that he was bullying Gru even before that. So he hates Gru because Gru hated him, basically! He also relies way too much on his wife to pose a threat, and if it weren’t for her he never would’ve temporarily gotten the upper hand. But more importantly, he only posed a threat to Gru and his family, unlike all of the other villains, whose threats actually affected Gru as a character. - Also, he gets defeated WAY too easily, and it’s anticlimactic. His “defeat” was merely just a way to make the Mega Minions have plot relevance, and even then, it’s honestly pathetic. - Speaking of his wife, she also has no purpose and gets defeated even EASIER than he did. - Generic dance party ending. Granted, the cover of “Everyone Wants the World” is decent, but HOW THE FUCK did Maxime become a human again? This applies to all of the other villains as well, for obvious reasons. - Perhaps the biggest flaw: it tries to be hip and modern so it can appeal to kids, but it’s pretty unfunny. My biggest examples would be the music used (including songs by Blackpink and BTS… which weren’t really needed) and the new kid characters: Gru Jr. and Poppy. They’re likable, but everything about Poppy, from her attitude to her appearance and even her lisp screams “KID/TEEN CHARACTER TRYING TO APPEAL TO THE KIDS/TEENS.” And need I say anything about Gru Jr? He’s literally just “the funny baby with an attitude” and a major plot device. If not for the plot, Gru Jr wouldn’t have any siginifance, and to top it off unlike his other children and Lucy Gru doesn’t go through any character development because of him. And in fact… - NO Character Development. I get that all the characters have already grown, but they can still grow. Show how life in Mayflower changes the characters, not how it affects them. The only characters who change just a little are once again, the new kid characters trying to appeal! The villain(s) especially don’t change one bit! - Humor is subjective, but I know not everyone is open to toilet humor and/or likes the Minions, so I’ll include this as a flaw also. - It’s really predictable at times. Ofc the baby will get kidnapped then later save Gru, ofc Maxine will manage to find Gru, and ofc the characters are too situationally stupid to put their house in lockdown! Overall, the film’s hilarity and likable characters (well, and I guess the soundtrack) are the only things that make up for the lackluster in story “kid-modern wannabe” excuse for a conclusion. I’m pretty generous, so I give it a 4.5/10, because I generally liked the film despite its flaws. What do you all think?

The whole time i was watching this movie i was thinking "oh, i wonder how this will be tied in to the main plot? Wait, no, its already concluded." It really feels like they just threw in as many characters as possible so they could make more toys. Like other people said, this would honestly be much better as a show. I would legitimately enjoy watching episodes centered around the tennis plotline or the mega minions actually doing LITERALLY ANYTHING of value.

I think the movie was too short for the amount of content it includes. I'm not gonna lie I liked the Mega Minions more than I thought I would but still. And also why did Gru start singing with the villains who are supposed to hate him and stuff? Dr. Nefario also did not appear enough and same thing with Dru (Not that Dru is even a good character)

I agree with all of it and i dont think the supermarket scene saves the film but you got to see that scene cause it was iconic, the only part of the movie I want to see again

Feels like this movie is a victim of the first draft being pretty solid, but then subsequent drafts take and keep fun scenes without knowing why they were good. In the end, making a fun movie with little to no natural connection to each one

This is like side plots the movie. A collection of side plots.

From what I can tell, it suffers from doing too much. It's not just an A plot with a B plot, there's also a C plot, a D plot, an E plot. So many plots that could have been split into more installments, or some just as shorts.

Fantastic choice of background music from Katamari Damacy! Haha

The plot felt like a recap of an episodic series, but I didn't hate the movie, illumination always nails the visual part, and while not the best I kinda enjoyed just watching the characters do random crap. Maybe it's cuz I don't watch a lot of movies

Saw this yesterday, and yeah, it's very 'in one ear, out the other'. For the majority of it, I was just bored more than anything else, which was weird considering there was a lot going on and yet almost nothing stuck. I remember the baby being cute, the minions having an impressively high body count as well as the one stuck in the vending machine(that was a good running joke) and the villain's history with Gru as well as the pay off at the end, being beautifully petty. Other than that, there isn't that much to say about it. It's a movie, it exists, that's it.

I think they should have made the girls older, because at least then it would be understandable why they didn’t play as big of a part in the movie.

And yet the Illumination people like Chris Meledandri and Minions: Rise of Gru co-director are on a mission for Shrek 5

They did put effort in it, calling it waste of time seems bit harsh

I just saw the movie. I enjoyed it.

I liked the movie, really sucks to see it flopped

I wish we go to focus more on the girls, they haven’t been the focus in SO long. Then a random baby comes along and takes all the focus and some random neighbor 💀 I watched it with my mom and sister and it was alright.

Despicable Me 4 huge success is leading to Illumination focusing on Minions 3 over making original movies!

There’s 7 movies, they’re just milking it at this point

I wonder the reason the girls didn’t age at all, is maybe because the 2nd movie happened very close after the first one,but that’s not the point…. They should of aged at most A LITTLE

Man, Shrek wasn’t even milked *this* much

While I haven't watched it yet, it's clear the franchise needs to be willing to be a bit "boring" sometimes. As in, focus more on the story with a few cast of characters while putting the comic relief characters on the sidelines.

This entire movie felt like a budget mini-series that was condensed into a movie, pretty much every plot point goes nowhere, as if their resolutions were cut for time or something.

I watched it on a sketchy website with my friend and we heard floor creeking sounds every 10 minutes 😂

Isn't it amazing that there are now 3 animated quadrilogies with a fat but fearless protagonist?! Shrek, Kung Fu Panda, and now Despicable Me!!!!

It feels like this movie had a point A and MAYBE a point B if you squint. Then they couldn't actually come up with a cohesive plot, so they came up with a bunch of modular scenes and smooshed them all together to make the audiance think there's something going on. The only parts of the movie I enjoyed was them using "Word Up" (Cameo) at the begining, "Everybody Wants To Rule the World" (Tears for Fears) at the end, and then the Honey Badger pop culture joke from the early days of youtube. Which was great, that actually got a laugh out of me. The rest of the movie, though? Not one. My biggest issue is that they wanted to spend so much time with the minons. I never understood why they were liked for more than 5 seconds, and I certainly don't understand why people would watch an entire movie about them. It was an entire 20+ minutes in this movie that they wasted either to pander to the grandma's on facebook or to pad run time. They literally served no purpose to the plot as a whole. They came back in the last moments to "help" defeat guy. His name and existance was not memorable enough. It's just annoying at this point. I saw the first movie when it came out, it was so good and it still gives me the warm fuzzies today. It actually had a plot, and you almost never see a guy adopting kids (even if entirely selfish and garbage at first) it's found family, but literal and I appreciated that. Unfortunately, the entire franchise, including spin offs, is just a pointless cash grab at this point. It's sad to see something that was really revolutionary get turned into some more soulless slop.

37 Minion movies were announced and I dont know if its fake or not 💀

I think it should’ve continued with the fight of Gru’s brother vs gru in despicable me 3. Doesn’t make sense how he got his car rocket thingy back

Minions 3 is coming in 2027…

I keep hearing people say this will take the award season over Inside Out 2 I saw hope not

Something I’ve noticed about movies, specifically animated ones is that the original classic first one is always the best and the rest of them are just boring empty jokes glued into a crap story.

The third one doesn’t have the best plot but it is pretty fun to watch and this was just not it I almost fell asleep

Idk if it’s mentioned in his video bc I haven’t finished it yet, but another problem is the fact that they refuse to age up Margo, Agnes and Edith.

I don’t care what anyone says. I enjoyed the movie this movie is 10 times better than anything Disney has put out over the last year. I’ll watch this movie hundred times then watch a Disney movie that came out all the last year.

Well... At least the voice acting, the animation, and the music were all good!

*hears list of main/supporting characters* ... Why did they make the group big enough to rival the last couple of Ice Age sequels-

I've only ever watched one and a half of the movies, and after my friend caught me up on the lore, I really think it should've stayed as a standalone movie, or stuck to just Gru and the girls as the protagonists. Yes even the woman character sounded really... weird to me for them to add. Wasn't the first movie already praised for not having a nuclear family, but a single dad with three adopted kids?

The karate scene makes me want to hug ‘Brittney’

While watching this movie I was actually so disappointed with how little was happening in a movie that had so much happening at the same time. I was upset they never focused back on the girls adjusting to their new lives and I was waiting for something to happen to an already established character. Poppy was great, but everything with Gru’s daughters gets tossed aside and I was hoping the villains girlfriend was hinting at wanting to turn against him but she just stayed a boring tag along. And on top of the villain being boring, I was not looking forward to eating my food in the theater after I realized the villain was all about cockroaches. Nasty.

I think I know why Illumination had been making bad movies. It’s because they were hiring bad writers and sometimes the directors.

You can watch this cartoon only if you have spare 50 iq points. Why? Because you will lose them..

You could explain the movie story in 5 MINUTES

The sound track was the best part

The ending with Gru and the villains singing "Everybody wants to Rule the World" makes it worth it

Y’all haters

Hope you're not lactose-intolerant, because by now, they sure are milking the franchise

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="775">12:55</a> ah yes, my favorite animal, M O N E Y

Splatoon 1 music on a minion review is interesting

For me, personally, the movie was too all over the place. I was rather disappointed when I left the theatre.

It would’ve been better to have mr Perkins as the villain instead of the actual one we got…

With how much character bloat the series suffers from I'm surprised at least one girl wasn't "shipped off to boarding school"

When I saw this movie I couldn't stop thinking about terraformers when the cockroach guy was on screen😂

I just watched the movie. It was terrible. There is no plot and too much random things are happening. Waste of time.

At this point, every Illumination movie is a huge waste of time except for Mario and maybe Migration.

the movie was good in my opinion...to say it was a waste of time is kinda ridiculous my son and I loved it including the whole movie theater full of ppl who laughed and seemed to think so to.

gotta love how the last movie introduced a long lost sibling only to barely explore their relationship all that much rush them to a happy ending and then not feature him at all in this movie except for a brief cameo at the end. wonder if the same will happen if there's a 4th Trolls movie? since it did the exact same thing for its Recent third film.

Wait a minute... How did he get footage for the movie??? Its not out at home its only in theaters?