Imagining a Better Fallout: New Vegas 

A new Vegas with a 4 year dev cycle would have been so unbelievably peak god himself stopped it from happening so the gaming industry wouldn't implode

5:40 fnv did have another use for the karma system, it slightly alters the endings. good karma courier is an overall better guy than bad one.

Can we talk about how it's easier to implement jiggle physics that look natural in NV than FO4

Excellent video. I played FNV in vanilla form a few years back as my first introduction to the franchise and absolutely loved it! Though the more I continued to play it, the more I realized a lot does not hold up to scrutiny. Especially the world design, my god the world design. Fallout 3's DC, while you can argue that it all looks like the same shades of grey, is a substantially more detailed than the Mojave. Locations are more interesting despite not being tied to any quests. Additionally, the settlements were way more populated and larger in nature. Vegas proper in FNV does not hold a candle compared to downtown DC, and I've always found it to be a damn shame just how barren Vegas looks compared to the former. I'm a sucker for good world designs and it's truly a shame that Vegas looks so lifeless. For someone interested in rectifying this issue, I can recommend several outstanding mods that improve the barren-ness of New Vegas, to somewhat put it up to par with the set standards of the DC Wasteland. 1. New Vegas Landscape Overhaul Re-Remastered - This mod aims to make the world much more visually pleasing by adding several statics on the landscape where they would fit best. The effect of this mod would mostly be noticeable in downtown vegas. 2. Enhanced Vegas Landscapes - it achieves the same effect as NVLORR but in a more muted and subtle manner. I recommend to use both in conjunction, just be sure to grab the compatibility version for the former mod in the files. 3. Desert Landscapes - I cannot stress this enough, I consider this mod as a brother of NVLORR and is even recommended by the author to use them in conjunction with the former mods to achieve greater effect. The functionality of this mod is sort of the same as NVLORR and aims to fill in the empty parts of the map with more clutter and statics to make it seem like Vegas is more lived-in. Seriously, I cannot recommend this mod enough, it's so good. 4. World of (Less)Pain - A more cut-down and vanilla-friendly version of AWOP. This mod reduces the amount of unecessary stuff that is included in the original to achieve the philosophy where aspects of the mod fit in more seamlessly with vanilla New Vegas. Take it as a less feature-creep AWOP 5. More Mojave - An AWOP-like mod that adds several exciting locations and dungeons throughout the more barren parts of the Mojave. Like AWOLP, this makes exploration all the more exciting. Be warned tho, I have found slight incompatibilities with Desert Landscapes where some landscape seams can be found as well as floating statics. But those can be fixed by simply disabling the statics. I'm not too versed in patching to fix the seams tho, so consider those factors when installing those mods. And finally, we have VICE - While I personally do not use this mod anymore due to some crashes, people might find this a very essential mod to have. For starters, this mod makes it so that Vegas proper feels like an actual city, by adding extra clutter and buildings, even rehashing assets from Fallout 3 to increase architectural diversity. Be warned, this mod may severely impact performance and may be incompatible with several popular mods out there that edits the same areas this does. I highly recommend you grab respective patches from the page of this mod to achieve great synergy from the mods mentioned above. From what I observed, you do not need patches for AWOLP and More Mojave. Download these mods and the world of New Vegas will seems much more alive compared to New Vegas. Though, if you guys are itching for random encounters, I would recommend a combination of Mojave Wildlife (Fo3 encounters version) and The Living Desert. And there ends my recommendation list :)))

Literally just an end game would be so much better. Having to do everything before the hoover dam fight feels so weird

Finally someone talks about the 18 months discourse, as much as one might hate Bethesda, they did the heavy lifting, and 18 months is plenty to make a spin off game, Josh Sawyer himself said in his twitter back in 2019. GTA Vice City was made in 9 months, Warcraft II in 11, Far Cry Primal in 11, Halo 3 ODST in 14, Majora's Mask took around 12-13 months, all of those games are very polished and very different from their previous entry.

no rain in new vegas makes sense seeing how its a desert

I think fallout 4’s modding system was mostly an improvement over new Vegas’ but it ruined the weapon sandbox we have a smaller weapon pool and weapon roles are pointless since one gun can fill any need you have, not to mention most of it just boils down to good barrel better barrel best barrel

On the point of the NV quest markers new Vegas still has a whole bunch of completely unmarked quests. Some of which are actually quite big. Sure fallout 3 also has a few but fnvs are a lot more detailed. Fallout nv has a lot of these and they can be pretty complex. I think this makes up for your critique around quest markers, as the quest you used as a example is apart of the main story it makes sense to make it easily assecible to all players.

1:30 I think the reason why so many "pointless" locations have fast travel markers has to do with the game's reputation system. These fast travel points are usually near major locations, such as the Basincreek building near McCarran, toxic dump site near Novac and Nelson, a random shack near the 188 trading post etc. Due to the game's reputation system it's entirely possible to turn half the wasteland against you so the devs wanted there to be "safe" spots near major locations that the player could still fast travel to, instead of having to travel directly into areas where everybody wants to kill you.

New Vegas had it's development spend more time on story at the cost of gameplay whereas 3 focused solely on gameplay with a story that's barely there. I guess this is why TTW is a must-have mod.

Your channel is amazing! Keep the content coming

NV fan with 200+ mods installed to make the experience manageable: "Impossible, it's already perfect"

I would redo specials like this: S - melee, unarmed, big guns P - energy weapons, small guns, explosives, - under 4 P can’t use scopes or iron sights. E - survival C - speech, barter -under 4 can’t talk well. Determines number of companions. I - medicine, repair, science A - lockpicking, sneak L - all - crit chance cut in half. Equipment- move all heavy weapons to big guns. That includes the big bulky rifles like anti-material rifle. Make the cutoff like 8’or 10 weight. Adding big guns also means another 100 points into something if you want to become proficient.

It'll obviously never happen, but it would be cool if Obsidian could have the chance to "redo" New Vegas -- like, not necessarily remaster the game, but something like a Director's Edition/Cut that tweaks the game and implements all the things they WANTED to do, kinda like JSawyer's mod.

Does this mean ur doing a more spawn mod comparison ? I'd love see that!

Pretty cool video, what do you think about the jsawyer cut and its changes. There's little to no documentation about every single change it does

More videos like this please, thank you!☺

what mod was used to choose no dlc gear to start with

Do you think they shouldve had a Dlc something like Broken Steel?

Saying it how it is!

Ending slides are way better lol

you should start doing New Vegas Mod Battles. it would really help cause it's modding is confusing and risky

good vid

Don’t remove the karma system though since that’s good for roleplay

I get the criticism for Karma but it actually does a lot more than most realise. Old world blues endings are effected by Karma. The Novac ending slides are different for each choice you make during Come Fly With Me plus a variation for Good/Bad/Evil Karma. The Lvl50 Perks are Karma dependent. The biggest criticism I would have for Karma is that you have to get to Lvl50 and play through the game to feel the effect.

New Fallout? ESG disaster.

I played new vegas right after 3 and I say some of the points are valid being the same engine and similar release times, they cut hella corners but I still enjoy nv and 3 when I was only playing that.

Having more weapon mods would definitely be cool. Removing quest markers though? Heck no.

Why don't you make a video reviewing your favourite mods that have fixed these issues for you?

I could not for the life of me find the "Blood Ties" quest location; I had to google it, I am not intelligent

I wish Obsidian could get a chance to really remake this game with all the content they wanted to add.

Lets goooo

Finally Pancuronium makes a character based on his own looks 🥰❤️ (sorry I had to, pls don't vats head me 8 times)

It’s the 18 month dev time and the lack of budget. Trust me. The things you wish were in the game, they wish were in the game.

100% agree on the world map. I have never felt so bored exploring as when I get stuck wandering in the dead empty outskirts of new Vegas

First time watchig this channel and in the first 5 seconds i get jumpscared by Joker

On the topic of locations, I pray that the next Fallout's map is smaller. We don't need tons of different locations that only are used for one quest, give us dense overlapping areas so we actually want to return and do more. I think that'd also benefit survival mode since people (like myself) wouldn't groan about traveling all across the wastes just to talk to someone and then need to turn around and walk back

Mad respect for pointing some bad things about FNV and comparing it to Fallout 3 …. Is rare seeing a youtuber doing it because of the fear of loosing subs

Here's a tougher one. Imagine an rpg as open-ended and allows for as much player storytelling as NV that's even close to being as good. I'll even take MS paint graphics, my god please indie devs just gimme something to work with.

to be fair about the 18 month defense, the reason why a lot of people use it is one its still less time than fallout 3, and fallout 3 had a bunch of problems, and theres the whole stuff how bethesda overseed it, the limitation obsidian had to deal with in development and so on

HERESY! joking, good video

1:50 The world is "dead and empty" because of PS3 and Xbox 360 memory limitations. Obsidian initially designed a more populated and denser world, but the game wouldn't even run, so the world content was pared back. On PC, mods like lStewieAl's Engine Optimizations help overcome the ancient memory architecture designs. But there's just nothing to be done without fully renovating the Gamebryo engine under the hood, which isn't happening. The best we can hope for is the upcoming Fallout 3 remaster to run on the Fallout 76 engine, and then let modders put New Vegas content in. Bethesda damn sure isn't going to touch New Vegas (aside from killing it through retcons in the TV series.)

Even though Fallout 3 technically has more locations i find a lot of them even more empty than New Vegas ones, loot in general sucks in 3

10:07 Fallout 76 did this!

Yeah I always bring the "charisma" state down to 1, useless

6:15 ...the NCR are supposed to be good aligned and Legion evil aligned tho, Josh Sawyer was pretty clear on that "grey morality" is a pretty much a big nothingburger when it comes to discourse like it, most of the times there is clearly a better and a worse option; arguing moral equivalency in New Vegas' factions is nothing but a failure of analysis

Taking the Biohazard 2 and 3 remake route of removing content sounds like a bad idea. Making New Vegas like Fallout 4 also sounds like a bad idea.

i hate the generic weapon upgrades that changes stats, new vegas and rage does it best. Also ashes 2063 and maybe metro 2033 but not exodus, they really made the weapons trash at the beginning.

The NV fanboys greatest fear ... logic.

Now imagine a good fallout 3 and 4

Is this ai talking

I've yet to see one comment that's just a flat "yup" instead of "saving face" or apology for new vegas Jesus, the fanatism around new vegas always surprises me. Fallout 4 people like new vegas, you will never see the opposite opinion

Man, there are hours-long videos documenting the stuff that went unused in FNV. There are many ways to improve the game without making up stuff.

First 30 seconds review: It's okay. Didn't change my life.

10:15 bitching about quest markers is like criticizing the color of the plate your food has been served on

Um.. no? Fallout 3 was not developed in 2 years in fact it's 4-5 years or 3 years. Still more then New Vegas, So I don't see your argument.

2 views in 43 seconds, bro fell off

The biggest problem with Fallout NV is just how boring and lifeless it is NV fanboys will fight me and go on endlessly about how " IMMERSIVE " and " WELL THOUGHT OUT " the game is, how it's the " BEST RPG EVAAAR " But the reality is that its world is dead and stagnant, Fallout 3 felt much more alive

Tell me Fallout 3 was your first Fallout without telling me Fallout 3 was your first Fallout - the video!

Imagining that the new Vegas community doesn't exist*

The easiest way to reduce scope is to remove factions and turn them into dlc expansions. Most of the new vegas dlc feel like unrelated side games aside from honest hearts. Nix dead money, old world blues entirely. Jacobstown, Great Khans, Enclave, convicts (not powder gangers), brotherhood, and a few others could be spun into their own dlc. Honest Hearts maybe could have been about the Khans instead? And these factions could have agred to fight at hoover dam making it valid. Now the base game has more time for the more important factions like the Legion.

1:38 verisimilitude means "VERY SIMULATION, DUDE!" which is what bros say to each other when confronted with good world building, right?